Author Topic: When will we ever learn  (Read 5618 times)

Keith Campbell

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Re: When will we ever learn
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2006, 05:01:46 PM »
Twocoats: I feel I must put in my Two Pennies worth here, My wife is Disabled and she receives the higher rate Mobility she is 50 years old and worked hard all her life and paid her tax and national insurance until her hip started to crumble and she was forced to give up her job, she is certainly no scrounger. Also to put you right on another point the higher rare mobility is £173.80 per month not £300 were ever you got that from? We gave up that Money for a car that is used to get my wife about as well as taking me to work as it would be pointless for the car to sit at home while I took the bus to work, my wife doesn’t drive. I pay about £500 each month in income tax and national insurance so I think the country is getting its moneys worth.
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Taggart 009

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Re: When will we ever learn
« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2006, 05:22:23 PM »
I work with severely disabled young people.Of course there will be some carers/parents/guardians who will abuse the benefits.But the task of caring for someone with a disability is immense and most of the carers deserve every penny and every bit of help they can get(and which saves the NHS millions each year).Let us not cloud the issue by derising the systems because of the abusers.
              Do businesses not avoid/evade tax,do self employed people ever avoid/evade tax on a huge scale.Do any of us have "homers" carried out at our houses/on our cars whereby the person doing the "homer" pockets the cash and the Inland Revenue sees none of it?
       I have no answer to the tax/benefits cheats other than to 'shop' anyone who is 'at it'.
                    Anybody else have the answer?. Of course there is a 'black' economy,fraud,cheating,but it is worldwide.
       Great post Sad Mushroom.....the armchair experts obviously haven't got a clue re the hard facts of caring for the disabled.

Can I please congratulate you all upon your entries in this sectrion. Not because of their contents so much but because you all discussed some very delicate subjects here and none of you fell out.  Well done!  There is hope yet for us all.

Taggart 009

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Re: When will we ever learn
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2006, 05:25:24 PM »
Can I please congratulate you all upon your entries in this section. Not because of their contents so much but because you all discussed some very delicate subjects here and none of you fell out.  Well done!  There is hope for us yet.

Christopher

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Re: When will we ever learn
« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2006, 05:26:53 PM »
Cheers Val ... the voice of reason and sanity as usual 8)

I see you have an echo, Val :D

Twocoats

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Re: When will we ever learn
« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2006, 05:43:21 AM »
Twocoats: I feel I must put in my Two Pennies worth here, My wife is Disabled and she receives the higher rate Mobility she is 50 years old and worked hard all her life and paid her tax and national insurance until her hip started to crumble and she was forced to give up her job, she is certainly no scrounger. Also to put you right on another point the higher rare mobility is £173.80 per month not £300 were ever you got that from? We gave up that Money for a car that is used to get my wife about as well as taking me to work as it would be pointless for the car to sit at home while I took the bus to work, my wife doesn’t drive. I pay about £500 each month in income tax and national insurance so I think the country is getting its moneys worth.

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Re: When will we ever learn
« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2006, 05:54:04 AM »
Hi. Twocoats here. First of all let me explain something. I very much realise how difficult it is to have a disabled child or family member. The mobility rates I described are true. I have not made a judgement on wether the parents of the only child should get the money or not. All of the threads I have deen involved in have been based on the truth. I am a retired Firefighter and have worked for years doing charitable work for disabled kids. I am also very much a socialist and believe strongly that disabled people should be very well looked after. Remember that the facts are available to anyone who wishes to search for them. So please don't shoot the messenger. Peace Brothers and Sisters and may your God go with you. Coats

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Re: When will we ever learn
« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2006, 11:17:34 AM »
Sad to read about Jade's experience in Glemgormley ....can't say I'm particularly surprised...worked there for a time...in my early more naive days in Belfast.....wearing a lovely leather cross I approached a bus driver outside Newtownabbey Borough Council...I don't know what horrified him most the cross or my dulcet southern brogue.....he gave me a look of pure venom and three times refused to tell me if the bus went to the city....the covert racism on Lisburn road is much more to my taste....arranged to meet my lovely daughter outside Tesco ..Arrived five minutes late to find her in hysterics as passers by foisted coins on her thinking she was begging...ah..so sweet...otherwise she is assumed to be a Phillipino nurse.....or a Thai dancer. (yeah in their dreams!!)

I've sussed it, Holly :D Obviously that bus driver on the Newtownabbey route was a vampire who expected you might produce a silver cross at any minute. Sure, my dear, you have a beautiful dulcet southern brogue. As for the Lisburn Road ... I found it was a peculiar area when I wanted to sell Irish souvenir teaspoons or photostone spoons with pictures of Charles and Diane to shopkeepers .. they were not interested ... why sure as soon as I got past Something Special, a gift shop that used to be in Bradbury Place, I had to head all the way to Dunmurry for my next sale. I was doing my level best to satisfy both sides of the community in this part of the world. People in Portrush understood that so they bought both the Irish spoons and the ones with the pictures of the Royals.