strathroy park ardoyne

[arder lavery]

My Gran was Kathleen Mackin.

i remember my mum taking me over the bone visiting relatives, right next to the chapel. then i remember her taking me up to ballysillin as well. then when my sister was goimg to america, we went and stayed with a relative somewhere in england. we were always around in butler st seeing the frames, mcnulties, mchughs, the holmes and oconners.

[arder lavery]

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[arder lavery]

ella lavery (mum) geraldine lavery, nora frame, arder lavery snr, ?, paul frame, gerrard frame, roy mcnulty, then me and anne

[Kateme]

i remember my mum taking me over the bone visiting relatives, right next to the chapel. then i remember her taking me up to ballysillin as well. then when my sister was goimg to america, we went and stayed with a relative somewhere in england. we were always around in butler st seeing the frames, mcnulties, mchughs, the holmes and oconners.

Mary Fegan (nee Mackin) lived in Glenview Street.  Jean McGibbon lived right next door to the chapel (her mother was a Mackin as well).  Kathleen Mackin's married name was O'Connor. Did you see the picture I posted of Jean McHugh on the Photos thread?  Eileen Holmes lived opposite O'Connors.  McNulty's lived sort of opposite McLarnons. 

[glenb]

Kateme, are you related to Mary Fegan !!!

[Kateme]

Kateme, are you related to Mary Fegan !!!

Yep - my great aunt

[arder lavery]

Mary Fegan (nee Mackin) lived in Glenview Street.  Jean McGibbon lived right next door to the chapel (her mother was a Mackin as well).  Kathleen Mackin's married name was O'Connor. Did you see the picture I posted of Jean McHugh on the Photos thread?  Eileen Holmes lived opposite O'Connors.  McNulty's lived sort of opposite McLarnons. 

you are spot on, i know that somewhere along the line we were related to the oconners and now the makins do ring a bell

[Kateme]

you are spot on, i know that somewhere along the line we were related to the oconners and now the makins do ring a bell

Hi Cuz.

[glenb]

Arder and Katme let me see if Iv'e got this right??

Arders Mother wee "Ella Gaskin" had a beautiful sister that lived in Havana St "Jean Gaskin"
Arders Mother also had a Fruit Shop (Flax st or Butler st)
Arders Mother worked in Gallaghers
Arder Lavery's Father had a brother Jim? lived around Washington st / N.Queen St
The Frames we're talking about owned the billiard halls

Now on to Kateme

Jean McGibbon 'nee" Jean Young
Kateme granny would have been the O'Connors that lived in Butler st, Kateme probably lived in Butler st before Havana St
Jean Young now lives up around the Deerpark
Anthony Fegin is still alive I believe
Jimmy Mackin probably brough Kateme and family out to New York
Kateme would know Granny Kit Fegan and Peggy O'Connor
Kateme would probably be a cousin of May Fegin
Jean Youngs morther would be Sarah Mackin that died at a young age

Let me know how accurate I am

[Kateme]

Arder and Katme let me see if Iv'e got this right??

Arders Mother wee "Ella Gaskin" had a beautiful sister that lived in Havana St "Jean Gaskin"
Arders Mother also had a Fruit Shop (Flax st or Butler st)
Arders Mother worked in Gallaghers
Arder Lavery's Father had a brother Jim? lived around Washington st / N.Queen St
The Frames we're talking about owned the billiard halls

Now on to Kateme

Jean McGibbon 'nee" Jean Young
Kateme granny would have been the O'Connors that lived in Butler st, Kateme probably lived in Butler st before Havana St
Jean Young now lives up around the Deerpark
Anthony Fegin is still alive I believe
Jimmy Mackin probably brough Kateme and family out to New York
Kateme would know Granny Kit Fegan and Peggy O'Connor
Kateme would probably be a cousin of May Fegin
Jean Youngs morther would be Sarah Mackin that died at a young age

Let me know how accurate I am

Jean McGibbon 'nee" Jean Young   YES
Kateme granny would have been the O'Connors that lived in Butler st, Kateme probably lived in Butler st before Havana St  I ALWAYS LIVED IN HAVANA ST. BUT SPENT MOST TIME IN GRANNY O'CONNORS.
Jean Young now lives up around the Deerpark  YES
Anthony Fegin is still alive I believe YES
Jimmy Mackin probably brough Kateme and family out to New York  NO. UNCLE PETE CLAIMED US.
Kateme would know Granny Kit Fegan and Peggy O'Connor  YES - PEGGY WAS MY MOM.
Kateme would probably be a cousin of May Fegin MY MOM WAS MAY'S COUSIN, I'M SECOND COUSIN.
Jean Youngs morther would be Sarah Mackin that died at a young age YES.

[Kateme]

Glen - if you look on pg. 19 of Pasting Photographs (Belfast PHotos and Videos) you'll see my Mom and Dad's wedding.  Uncle Pete and Aunt Rosaleen  are in the picture too.  Also there is my confirmation picture with Mom and cousin Peter in front of Granny's house.  The other picture is a bunch of us kids one day in the street.  Did you come from Old Ardoyne??

[glenb]

Kateme, I came from upper Ardoyne but my Mother's family is from Glenview st, I was in the Fegiins house many times as a child, all the people mentioned by me were friends and neighbours of my Mother...She knows all of them from the old days (She's 87 now)...all that information that I posted she rattled off in about 5 minutes without a break...

She also knows Arders family and said Arders family would have been in her house regularly, and also the Fegins, you know what it was like, everyone dropped into everyones house

[Kateme]

Yes Glen, things are very different now.  You have to make an appointment to see people now.  My Granny had loads of people in every day - neighbors, family etc.  Here in NY, children have PLAY DATES!!!  Unfortunately you have to watch children a lot closer now. 

[McNamee]

It's the same over here.  We don't even know our neighbours anymore.

[glenb]

I think back in amazement on how many people would fit into one of those wee front rooms in the Bone, and where and how did they keep the tea and sandwiches going, the fire, the odd dog and cat, people going in and out....I live in a house ten times that size and when there's more than four people in my living room I think its a crowd...I