i remember them, took my scrap to ceasar , used to see buck alec there when i was a kid,got a faint memory of some one being put through a chip shop window, was that ceasar? my dad and him were close but i dont know why,my dad died in 2010, and we have since found out he had a double life, civil servant by day, and flash harry by night and weekends, money no object, but it wasnt dads money