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Viv

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Cassells family
« on: August 13, 2009, 02:18:22 AM »
Hi

Can anybody help me solve below. I am fairly new at this.
My father John Joseph Cassells was born in Kilmallock 1920, his father Albert Victor Casselss mother Ellen Sheehan.
I have managed to find Alberts and Ellen's marriage certificate 1919 in Shankill, Belfast.  Alberts father's name on the certificate was Samuel Cassells.
Now to where I have hit a wall, I found an Albert Victor Cassells on a shipping manifest going to the States in 1923, his wife is named Isabella nee Shirlow.  This manifest shows Alberts father to be Samuels Cassells, living at the same address as Alberts marriage to Ellen.
(so I am thinking I have found my grandfather). From this information I ordered that marriage certificate which shows Alberts father as JOSEPH Cassells.
I am now totally confused, I am asking, Are there any Belfast Cassells out there that both a Joseph and Albert in the one family, I think both were born around the late 1890's to 1900.
Sorry this is so wordy but hope somebody can throw some light on the discrepancy
Look forward to a reply,  regards Viv  :)
, Regard

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Re: Cassells family
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2009, 08:55:13 AM »
Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 5 Apr 1919
Groom Name albert victor Cassells
Bride Name elinor reginia Sheehan
Church Saint Annes Church of Ireland
Parish Shankill
Civil District Belfast
County Antrim

The only Isabella Shirlow marriage I can find is :
Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 17 Jan 1905
Groom Name george CROOKS
Bride Name isabella SHIRLOW
Church Claggan Presbyterian Church
Parish Lissan
Civil District Cookstown
County Londonderry

At www.ancestryireland.com They have a record of the death of an Albert Victor Cassells in 1900  in Belfast. Obtaining that record may help.

In the 1911 census there is a Cassells family, father Samuel(40), mother Minnie (41), and three sons, Harry (15) Albert(11)  and Samuel (6).
Both Samuel and Minnie appear to born in County Armagh.
see: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001526210/

Samuel and Minnie as married 16 years, and this may well be their marriage :

Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 30 Mar 1895
Groom Name samuel john CASSELLS
Bride Name mary jane FREEBURN
Church Saint Annes Church of Ireland
Parish Shankill
Civil District Belfast
County Antrim

God luck
OTTO

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Re: Cassells family
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2009, 09:08:00 AM »
Hi Viv, in the 1911 census there is an Albert cassells aged 11 living with his father Samuel and mother Minnie (Mary) and 2 brothers, living at 36 Excise Street Belfast Samuel and Mary were both from county Armagh here is the link

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001526210/

here is Samuels and mary's marriage

Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 30 Mar 1895
Groom Name samuel john CASSELLS
Bride Name mary jane FREEBURN
Church Saint Annes Church of Ireland
Parish Shankill
Civil District Belfast
County Antrim

Ancestery Ireland have the marriage but its 4 to view full details but here is the free info

CASSELLS SAMUEL JOHN 1895 Father.  HENRY...county Antrim
FREEBURN MARY JANE 1895. .Father... JOHN.... county Antrim

Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 5 Apr 1919
Groom Name albert victor Cassells
Bride Name elinor reginia Sheehan
Church Saint Annes Church of Ireland
Parish Shankill
Civil District Belfast
County Antrim

here is the link to the census just put Cassells in and choose county antrim i think most of them are related as heads of house all seem to come from armagh.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

colette

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Re: Cassells family
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2009, 09:09:07 AM »
 :D you beat me to it otto  :P

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Viv

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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2009, 12:23:03 PM »
Gee!  I wish I had met you guy's sooner, thank you all so much for your reply's, I am just off to bed (live in Oz) so I will read everything properly in the morning

Viv

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Re: Cassells family
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2009, 10:32:51 AM »
I took a look at the Albert Victor death notice and paid for the look up,
Albert Victor Cassells died 20/03/1900, address 171 Donegall Rd, his father was "Joseph Cassells" who was at the same address on the 1911 census.
All the other details you gave agree with what I have.  I also have the certificate for Albert Cassells & Isabella Shirlow, married 24/02/1923 at the Registrars Office, Belfast, it shows the father as Joseph and still living at 171 Donegall Rd.
I do think that Albert in both marriages is one of the same as I said before on the manifest when they went to the USA later in 1923 they have given the home contact as "S Cassells, father & father in law"
Thank you for the link to look into the 1900 death of Albert Victor Cassells.
Sorry for being so wordy, would love to hear from any other decendants from the same family. ...keep up the good work..Viv
Great site! :)


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Re: Cassells family
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2009, 12:43:28 AM »
our prudential insurance man was mr. cassells in the 1950's, he was at least 50 then, lived in upper ormeau i think.

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Re: Cassells family
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2009, 01:43:51 AM »
Excise Street, was off the Grosvenor Road.

Viv

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Re: Cassells family
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2009, 06:54:13 AM »
Hi
I really have no idea what any of the Cassells boys did..apart from Albert 1900 went to the USA...brother Samuel born abt. 1896 and Harry 1905 (maybe named Henry at birth ?) this is from the 1911 census.
Wonder who the Insurance man was :)

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Re: Cassells family
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2009, 05:23:36 PM »
he wore a trilby and a three piece suite and my ma told me to say he was my 'uncle' because no one else was insured with him and he used to travel over to north belfast on a cross town bus ???

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Re: Cassells family
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2009, 05:59:01 PM »
Cassells is an unusual name. I wouldn't think there were too many of them about, but there was a family with that name who lived 19 Beechill Rd in Newtownbreda in the 70s. They may still be there.
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Re: Cassells family
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2009, 06:31:23 PM »
there you are, newtonbreda the 93 bus ;)carrs glen to supermac's.

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Re: Cassells family
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2009, 08:18:20 PM »
Hi Viv,
I'm related to the Cassells' I can give you the info that you need, contact me on [email protected]
regards,
Walter

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Re: Cassells family
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2009, 07:29:59 PM »


I remember a girl from around Percy St with a the surname Cassells.
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Re: Cassells family
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2010, 06:05:19 AM »
How are you going with thus Viv? Very mysterious! It seems there were possibly 4 Albert Cassells born about the same time.
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