Author Topic: BEECHMOUNT POLTERGEIST  (Read 136223 times)

Renegademaverick

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Is it possible to get a off copy. I really want to read this. Can't seem to get it on open library

jjmack

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Have read it. A load of crap, to be honest. It just doesn't add up.  ::)
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Jennayoung87

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Hi! Would it be possible to send me a copy of the ebook please? I am really keen to read this!!! Jennayoung87 @ yahoo . com
Thank you!

James James

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Related topic thread,...    http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,23056.105.html

Hi there I have a copy in email form if you wish to read, just pm ur email and I can forward it :-)

Pauline thankyou very much for sending me the copy via email I read the book and enjoyed it. It was worth the wait.

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James James

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Re: BEECHMOUNT POLTERGEIST
« Reply #411 on: July 06, 2019, 01:33:29 AM »
I found this on a Liverpool Football Club supporters forum. ! The link that he has listed in his post no longer works, because the site that it refers to appears to have shut down.

The passage that is listed in the second picture, appears to be a quote from the forward of the book.

http://www.the-limelight.co.uk/_forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3550&PN=2&TPN=2




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Re: BEECHMOUNT POLTERGEIST
« Reply #412 on: July 09, 2019, 01:31:58 PM »

I seem to remember my aunt having a copy of this book; unfortunately the binding wasn't all that great and the pages fell out over the years. I doubt she has it any more - she moved house a few years back and a lot of her old books went to charity shops. Pity.

I read it when I was younger, and it seemed a very interesting story - and a peculiar one, because it's really not a traditional 'ghost story'.

I mean, it doesn't follow the usual 'haunted house' narrative of floaty shadows and whispers, and a reason for the activity - there's no 'story' there, in the traditional sense. There was no tragedy linked with the house, no message to be passed on, no moral dimension that could be used to explain the haunting.

Instead, the entity described in the Skillen's home comes across as vicious, unpredictable, frighteningly solid and totally implacable. There's no known cause for this 'woman in black' to suddenly be there, or why it does what it does, and - the most frightening part - apparently no way to stop it. The book doesn't read like a story, it reads as an eyewitness account of an event.

I've looked at some of the Belfast Forum threads (seems there's a fair few about Number 91), and while some folk are hinting that it was all just a stunt, it seems to me that the family stood to gain nothing by 'making it up'. As I recall they lost their family home of many years and a great deal else, and had their lives turned upside down by the whole episode.

I think some people still seem quite angry about this book because there's no half-measures. We can't explain it all away as noisy central heating pipes, or reflections of car headlights in a dark room, or a bad dream, the way we might about other tales about 'ghostly activity'. We can't dismiss it by agreeing that something might have happened, but there's a perfectly rational explanation that has nothing to do with the supernatural, if only we'd look for it.

If it really did all happen as stated - physically, repeatedly, often in the middle of the day, often in a room full of different people, over several months - then the world doesn't work the way we think it does, and that's quite terrifying. No wonder many people find it preferable to just dismiss the whole thing as a pack of lies. When the human brain is confronted with a baffling account like this, it's a reasonable defence mechanism to reject it completely. The alternative is far too unsettling to consider.

The fact that there's still so much interest in this wee book, thirty years on, is also interesting. Maybe we're all still looking for closure on what happened that summer in Beechmount Grove. I know I am...

Ninox

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Re: BEECHMOUNT POLTERGEIST
« Reply #413 on: July 09, 2019, 01:47:15 PM »

Oh, and although I couldn't get the OpenLibrary link to work either (it seems to be a listing for the publication, rather than a link to actually read the text?), I just checked and LibrariesNI has three copies in their collection.

You have to be a LibrariesNI member (free to join), and log in, search the catalogue (Author: Skillen, J), and submit a request for the book. Or you could probably call in to your local library branch and just ask someone at the desk.

https://www.librariesni.org.uk

I understand that these are Heritage collection books so they can't be borrowed and taken away, but you can go along and read a copy in a nominated library. It's not a very long book.

I think some fella posted a link to a book review of Number 91 a year or two ago, and he'd done it this way - I haven't tried it myself, but I just checked the LibrariesNI catalogue and they're still listed.

Ninox

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Re: BEECHMOUNT POLTERGEIST
« Reply #414 on: July 09, 2019, 04:39:31 PM »

^^^ Link to the book review is literally three posts upthread; sorry, should have noticed that!

https://opinionatedgeek.com/Blog/2018/4/15/number-91-a-belfast-ghost-story-by-john-skillen

James James

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I do not post on BF i do send private messages to those sending ecopies, the reason being i dont want the book circulated.  This was a very tramatic time for myself and my family.  It is nothing to do with money i do not want my own children to go through what we went through as children and are still going through as adults.

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Re: BEECHMOUNT POLTERGEIST
« Reply #416 on: July 29, 2020, 12:53:10 AM »

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Is it possible to get a off copy. I really want to read this. Can't seem to get it on open library

I have the book and read it, chapter by chapter on my YouTube channel. Just need to cover copyright issues, if any.

I am new to this form and only really registered to share this story, well I actually worked with an older gentleman back in the late 2000's, maybe 2007/08 and I had worked with him as a joiner. He who I shall not name, was close the Skillen family at the time of the haunting. He was one of the witnesses of an attack during the day time and watched objects fly across the room. I worked with the fella for about 3 years and he never mentioned this to me or others. You would think after over a 1000's days working together he would mention something. He never did, I only found out a few years later he was there in 91 beachmount to see the madness. It was only until 2014 i met him on the road one day and we started talking, I told him i read the book and he said, I still get nightmares about it and he didn't want to talk more about it. That freaked me out but I believed him 100%

Ninox

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Re: BEECHMOUNT POLTERGEIST
« Reply #417 on: November 30, 2020, 05:57:56 PM »
Managed to finally find an original copy of the No. 91 book, and re-read it over the weekend there.

Boys, that's some wild stuff in there. Even stranger than I remember.

I'd forgotten that locally-based folklorist and author Sheila St Clair had also been involved in the story, having written a letter on behalf of the family to the Housing Executive after hearing of the happenings on BBC Radio Ulster (presumably the Barry Cowan Show?) - as printed at the back of the book.

I have most of her books (hey, I'm interested in local folklore - that's why I'm on here), and sure enough when I checked through them, a short version of the 'poltergeist' happenings at No.91 appears in her own book, Mysterious Ireland, published in 1994. The name of the family is anonymized, presumably at their request. She wrote a number of other books about local paranormal stuff, though this is the only one featuring the house at Beechmount Grove.

I think the most interesting part of the whole thing is the sheer number of people that became involved in the case.

Most so-called ghost stories have maybe one or two witnesses, rarely more, which makes it hard to tell if it wasn't just someone getting a bit carried away and scaring themselves and their friends.

But, at a quick count, there are 104 different individuals mentioned in the book as having witnessed or experienced some of the activity claimed, of which 47 are specifically named. That's an awful lot of people.

With no direct knowledge of what occurred beyond the book and a few forum comments, I still remain on the fence - but there seem to be plenty of folk involved in some way - on here, and elsewhere - who still insist that it happened just the way it's told. What do they have to gain from that, now?

The fact many still don't want to talk much about it, even after all these years, suggests to me that there's more to it than a simple case of a family trying to put one over on the Housing Executive - or kids playing about with torches and string tied to a door knocker, as has been posted upthread. It's not lurid horror-film stuff. It's not spooky. It's genuinely traumatic. It's disturbing. And it doesn't fit together neatly at all.

All I'll say is: if you were trying to make up a ghost story, for attention or to get rehoused, then this is not the story you'd choose to make up.

ouldoll

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Have read it. A load of crap, to be honest. It just doesn't add up.  ::)

I totally agree with you.  No-one but the family seems to have spent a night in the house so no independent corroboration. 


 

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