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hicky

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Belfast boundry
« on: January 19, 2010, 02:07:58 PM »
  I am sure when i ask this question there will be those who know the answer and
    are amazed at those who dont know the answer especially when it is the city
   we live in  Q  where is the broundry between Belfast co Antrim &
                                              Belfastco Down ??
                                             

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Re: Belfast boundry
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2010, 02:23:47 PM »
Good question Hicky, I am likely wrong in this one. But when I was growing we were told that the lagan was the boundary. east and south of the river were supposed to be county Down. But I would love to know for sure, if that is right or wrong.
 
Although the postal adddress for all of Belfast is Antrim.
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Re: Belfast boundry
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2010, 02:29:06 PM »
Good question Hicky, I am likely wrong in this one. But when I was growing we were told that the lagan was the boundary. east and south of the river were supposed to be county Down. But I would love to know for sure, if that is right or wrong.
 
Although the postal adddress for all of Belfast is Antrim.
your right REP1, when you cross the lagan, depending which direction you are going, it is CoDown or Antrim
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hicky

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Re: Belfast boundry
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2010, 02:40:22 PM »
 That sounds resonable REP1  the river is the divide no matter how far you go
  so that would make Malone rd co Antrim and then when you go over the Shaws
  bridge thats  co down seems logical can anyone confirm this conclusion?? 

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Re: Belfast boundry
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2010, 02:45:11 PM »
  And i didnt know that the official postal address for all of belfast was co antrim,
      for that was the reason that prompted the question in the first place  thanks

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Re: Belfast boundry
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2010, 04:47:05 PM »
your right REP1, when you cross the lagan, depending which direction you are going, it is CoDown or Antrim
                         
 
That's what i was told also that the lagan was the boundray between Antrim and Down       so would the Antrim post mark be on all mail for N I ?
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Re: Belfast boundry
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2010, 04:56:58 PM »
when i was in my teen i was very keen on bicycling rasing and one of the routs was out to lisburn at wallace park it had a race c track later on we would cycle out the lisburn road and we would race for the Co Down line thats were Antrim met Co Down, then it was just a line accross the road  it was just before Blaris cemetary
don,t know if thats any help   :hi:
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Re: Belfast boundry
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2010, 05:04:12 PM »
When I went to St Matthews school, Seaforde st, East Belfast, we were always
taught our address as being Co Down..
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Re: Belfast boundry
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2010, 05:16:36 PM »
www.army.mod.uk/documents/general/Northern_Ireland_section_4_07.pdf

try this link for more info
                                               
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Re: Belfast boundry
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2010, 05:18:40 PM »
When I went to St Matthews school, Seaforde st, East Belfast, we were always
taught our address as being Co Down..
Your right Jim b, and you forgot to mention the five all Irelands as well
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Re: Belfast boundry
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2010, 05:32:54 PM »
Not the whole of the north, just Belfast and the rest of county Antrim
 
                         
 
That's what i was told also that the lagan was the boundray between Antrim and Down       so would the Antrim post mark be on all mail for N I ?
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Re: Belfast boundry
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2010, 08:20:56 PM »
Ask a politician they rewrite the boundaries when it suits them at election times!
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Re: Belfast boundry
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2010, 08:31:46 PM »
County Antrim [/font][/size][/font][/size](Contae Aontroma in Irish) is one of the six counties that form
Northern Ireland. It is the 9th largest of the 32 traditional counties of Ireland in terms
of area, and 2nd in terms of population behind Dublin. It is situated in the north-east
of the island of Ireland, in the province of Ulster. It is bounded north and east by
the narrow seas separating Northern Ireland from Scotland, the Atlantic Ocean and
Irish Sea, south by Belfast Lough and the River Lagan dividing it from County Down,
south-west by Lough Neagh, dividing it from County Armagh and County Tyrone, and
west by County Londonderry, the boundary with which is the River Bann. Covering an
area of 2,844 km≤, it has a population of approximately 566,000, most of them in
and around the Belfast area. The Glens of Antrim offer isolated rugged landscapes,
the Giantís Causeway is a unique landscape and a UNESCO World Heritage site,
Bushmills produces legendary whiskey, and Portrush is a popular nightlife zone. The
majority of the capital city of Northern Ireland, Belfast, is also in County Antrim, with
the remainder being in County Down.
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Re: Belfast boundry
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2010, 09:08:28 PM »
The Postal address of Belfast seems to have changed to Co. Antrim, some time after the late 1880's when Belfast officially became a city.  Prior to this the boundary was, indeed, the river Lagan. 
A good guide is generally found in the street directories.  The earlier ones usually show a
Co., Antrim/Co. Down division of Belfast as "Belfast & Ballymacarret".
 
 Older Market district residents view one side of Cromac Street as Co. Antrim and the other as being in Co. Down.   Short Strand (St. Matthew's)&, Mountpottinger  residents also Co. Down. When checking any ancestral records for Belfast, I always tick both Co. Antrim & Co. Down "Boxes".

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Re: Belfast boundry
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2010, 10:44:48 PM »
It wasn't too many years ago that letters came to East Belfast marked as County Down.
Maybe someone from the post office can tell us why and when it changed. Or is it still proper to put County Down when you give your address.
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