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welder

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Re: EVERY BLACK & WHITE PHOTO TELLS A STORY
« Reply #15585 on: March 14, 2019, 01:26:20 PM »
Ref #15742. Not all young men in Belfast were idle malingerers.My Father left Belfast in March 1940 and came to England.He worked all over
UK until his retirement. Prior to leaving Belfast he worked for McCue & Dick (Timber importers)
Had he not came to England I wouldn't be posting this comment.
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« Reply #15586 on: March 14, 2019, 03:32:27 PM »
The infatuation with Churchill is a mystery to me,some basic research will show you all what a Tyrant and war criminal he actually was.

Greatest Briton? You're having a laugh.

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« Reply #15587 on: March 14, 2019, 03:47:45 PM »
The infatuation with Churchill is a mystery to me,some basic research will show you all what a Tyrant and war criminal he actually was.

Greatest Briton? You're having a laugh.

And your nominee for greatest Briton would be ?
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« Reply #15588 on: March 14, 2019, 07:42:00 PM »
IMHO, there's something not right about the whole perspective of the elephant in this image.

In particular, look at the outline of the elephant's front legs, for they don't look natural for being 'in situ'.  Its front right leg seems very awkwardly placed in the context of the surrounding image, and despite it being on the ground (it has to be, since the front left leg definitely isn't), the footpad isn't sitting flat on what otherwise looks like flat ground.  In addition, the definition of both front legs is at odds with the smoky consistency of the immediate surroundings, in particular note the back of the man's leg that can be seen between the elephants front legs - the man is obviously VERY close to the elephant, but his leg is in a veil of smoke that somehow stops abruptly at the outline edge of the elephant's leg. (It mightn't be actual smoke, it might just be a cloudy discoloration on the photo, either way, the elephant's front legs don't seem to be affected while other parts of the image around it are.  In that regard, also look at the second soldier from the left and how his head and helmet seem to have strangely 'bled' into the elephant's leg. Curious or what?).

So while the image of the riot looks genuine, I wouldn't rule out it having been manipulated to add the elephant. Look forward to hearing other opinions...

every thing in the photo is correct a part form shall we say the NOT SO WHITE elephant heres the original photo

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« Reply #15589 on: March 14, 2019, 07:59:09 PM »
every thing in the photo is correct a part form shall we say the NOT SO WHITE elephant heres the original photo

regards tommy

Where's the elephant gone ?  :D
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Re: EVERY BLACK & WHITE PHOTO TELLS A STORY
« Reply #15590 on: March 14, 2019, 08:02:12 PM »


It's in the Tandoori  ;)
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« Reply #15591 on: March 14, 2019, 08:28:40 PM »

every thing in the photo is correct a part form shall we say the NOT SO WHITE elephant heres the original photo

regards tommy


Thanks tommy, a great find that resolves this puzzle, one has to wonder at the motive behind the attempt to  airbrush/alter/rewrite such a situation, there is a vast choice of much easier and more recent subjects to choose from.

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« Reply #15592 on: March 14, 2019, 10:12:44 PM »
Where's the elephant gone ?  :D
IT GOT A TRUNK CALL FROM THE ZOO LOL  :D

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« Reply #15593 on: March 14, 2019, 11:26:03 PM »
Belfast WW1, May 1915 soldiers of the 36th Ulster Division enroute to war parade along Chichester Street.

The intersecting street would be Arthur Street, and the parade is about to pass in front of Belfast City Hall.

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« Reply #15594 on: March 14, 2019, 11:33:59 PM »
"July 1976 - Street Party, James Street, Shankill Road, Belfast"


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« Reply #15595 on: March 15, 2019, 03:23:20 AM »
Boxer you made a joke, good for you.lol.

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« Reply #15596 on: March 15, 2019, 06:11:30 AM »
Good find of the photo Tommy  O0
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« Reply #15597 on: March 15, 2019, 07:25:27 AM »
The infatuation with Churchill is a mystery to me,some basic research will show you all what a Tyrant and war criminal he actually was.

Greatest Briton? You're having a laugh.
Where as the fella he beat was a bundle of laughs.

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« Reply #15598 on: March 15, 2019, 07:28:34 AM »
"Dear Addy, Happy Birthday, Winston.


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« Reply #15599 on: March 15, 2019, 12:50:02 PM »
The more I look at this photo, the more I think that the smoky effect is indeed actual smoke from the discharge of several baton guns by the soldiers clustered at the left / front of the Pig, the soldier third from left is several yards (nearer to the camera) behind this cluster, so he stands out in high relief against the smoke in front of him.

The smoke shrouding the cluster of soldiers at the left / front of the Pig has then risen and drifted to the left, where the lamp post is.  In other words, it is all foreground smoke through which you can see the background houses and people.  That's why the elephant looks so fake, for while someone has attempted to make it look as if it is part of the background, as you say it has simply been superimposed, obliterating the foreground smoke (and part of the head and helmet of the second soldier from the left).

Maybe I am over analysing this, lol.

Yes, its a hoax ok. Some people eh ?  :D
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