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jillyfred

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ROWAN STREET OFF YORK STREET
« on: February 13, 2011, 07:26:53 PM »
Did anyone either live or know people who did in Rowan Street off York Street?
I am talking about a timespan of 1940`s,1950`s and 1960`s.
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Re: ROWAN STREET OFF YORK STREET
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2011, 06:07:18 PM »

 
ROWAN STREET 1940 directory

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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2011, 06:11:28 PM »

 
ROWAN STREET 1951 street directory.

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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2011, 06:49:01 PM »
Many thanks Harrydunn once again for your help-very much appreciated.
 
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2011, 12:39:16 AM »
i know some people from rowan street there name was sturgenor i think thats the right spelling

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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2018, 12:47:41 PM »
I knew a Jim who lived at number 50 from 1944 to 1966

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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2018, 01:18:10 PM »

I knew a Jim who lived at number 50 from 1944 to 1966
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Hello Sam,
My Mother was born at No.48 in 1921 and lived there until her marriage in 1943.
Her Mother,my Grandmother continued to live there until her death in 1968.
The `Jim` you knew would have been next door to my Granny.
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2018, 06:59:49 PM »
Hi Jillyfred,I lived in Clanmorris St. In the 60's,I knew families who lived on Rowan St.., Grants,Browns,Bells and the Warings.I have tried to contact neighbors from Clanmorris  St. But so far no luck.
I would really like to have some photographs of the streets if you or anyone has any.


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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2020, 05:44:43 AM »
Hi I am trying to also find details about Rowan Street. trying to track down my family tree, but have come to  dead end. My nan was Jeannie Bell and I think her father was James Bell a master baker at 52 Rowan Street. But I am at a dead end from there think he was definitely there in 1942 as this was listed on my nans marriage certificate.
Think there may have also been siblings Davey, Dan and Nellie, but cant find much else.

Can anyone help from here?

Many thanks
Ian

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Re: ROWAN STREET OFF YORK STREET
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2020, 07:43:54 AM »

Hi I am trying to also find details about Rowan Street. trying to track down my family tree, but have come to  dead end. My nan was Jeannie Bell and I think her father was James Bell a master baker at 52 Rowan Street. But I am at a dead end from there think he was definitely there in 1942 as this was listed on my nans marriage certificate.
Think there may have also been siblings Davey, Dan and Nellie, but cant find much else.

Can anyone help from here?

Many thanks
Ian


A Daniel J Bell of 52 Rowan Street died on 6 September 1970 at a reported age of 45 and was buried in grave C3 362 of Belfast City Cemetery:
https://dof.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6697.1205

Buried over a decade before Daniel in that same grave was a James Bell of 125 Upper Canning Street, who died on 7 February 1959 at a reported age of 86:
https://dof.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6805.263

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Re: ROWAN STREET OFF YORK STREET
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2020, 07:55:53 AM »

... Buried over a decade before Daniel in that same grave was a James Bell of 125 Upper Canning Street, who died on 7 February 1959 at a reported age of 86:
https://dof.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6805.263


It looks like the above James Bell is indeed your man:





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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2020, 08:13:33 AM »

A Daniel J Bell of 52 Rowan Street died on 6 September 1970 at a reported age of 45 and was buried in grave C3 362 of Belfast City Cemetery:
https://dof.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6697.1205


Daniel confirmed as the son of James and Jenny Bell:





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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2020, 08:59:14 AM »
Could be just a coincidence of names, but maybe the following folk are related...

A widower called James Bell, a baker, married Jane McDade in York St. Presbyterian Church on 10 February 1920, the two fathers were recorded as Thomas Bell and William John McDade:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1920/09247/5347127.pdf
 
An Ellen Jane Bell was born to parents James Bell, a baker, and Jennie McDade of 1 Canning Place on 17 April 1921.  Then I wondered about this:



Which reads across to this burial record:
https://dof.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6257.3285

In the same grave at Belfast City Cemetery (C3 361) are the following folk, the address '1 Canning Place' gets a mention in several of the records, I'm assuming the Ellen who died in 1921 was the same one in the birth record I mentioned above:
https://dof.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialSearch.aspx?GraveSection=C3&GraveNumber=361&CemeteryName=City%20Cemetery

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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2020, 03:51:30 PM »

... An Ellen Jane Bell was born to parents James Bell, a baker, and Jennie McDade of 1 Canning Place on 17 April 1921.  Then I wondered about this:




For these 2 addresses above, ie. '1 Canning Place' and '16 Rowan Street', I'm seeing references to the surnames Colville and Craig, which seem to relate to the following folk (Martha (Craig) Colville, widow of James) in 1911, not sure for now if related to Bell, but maybe enough for you to rule them in or out:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Duncairn/Rowan_Street/142721/

Edited to add:  Is the Bell connection this marriage in 1920?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1920/09256/5350939.pdf

Sarah Bell in 1911:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Duncairn/Canning_Place/139579/

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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2020, 04:16:50 PM »

... Sarah Bell in 1911:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Duncairn/Canning_Place/139579/


So presumably the following is the mother Fanny Bell's - ie. Frances (Finlay) Bell's - death in 1914, hence husband James Bell the baker remarried Jane McDade in 1920:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1914/05297/4472945.pdf

Which matches the person in the Belfast City Cemetery burial record I previously posted for grave C3 361.

So is the story here that James Bell married Frances Finlay, had a family, Frances died, James remarried (to Jane McDade) and had a family...?

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