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Bugsy

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Re: St Patricks College Knock Gilnahirk
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2014, 06:48:53 AM »
I was kicked out on my first day of 5th year - around 1976!  I think I'm in one of those You Tube vids - from the French trip.

Teachers I remember Paddy Doris (Spanish) Harry Magee (French) Fr Fitzsimmons (Chem or Biology) Paschal (Latin) Silver McKee (English) Dan McCall had a brother Tim (History)

Martin Kelly was a very young Maths teacher who was a nice guy but unable to maintain discipline - he later joined the Civil Service and is there yet.

Pupils: Tim & Niall McLaughlin, Tommy Rowe, Sean Hayes, John/Sean Walsh (Seanna), Steven Beacom (Sports Editor for Belfast Tele) Bart Maguire, Jimmy Melaugh, Hirum Morgan, (Jesus, these names are coming out of no where) Joe/Stephen Dorrian - there always seemed to be loads of Dorrians, John Ross, John Gallagher, Tom Travers.

Will post more later.

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Re: St Patricks College Knock Gilnahirk
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2014, 02:54:28 PM »
Well what can I say? "Headless" reporting in. Irishcolum I was a year behind you....

I was in the year behind the guys who left in 1976 but what memories it brings back. The videos seem to be the Liam Wilson fan club but watching them was just stepping back 38 years (almost to the day). The footage of Joe Conway and his beloved Passat...takes me back.

I am just gonna ramble through what I remember because I see so many names:

Fr John "Fadger O" O'Sullivan (Maths) was transferred overnight to Cushendall as Parish Priest (I believe) after a clandestine meeting held at the school winter 76/77 between Papal Nuncio, Cardinal Conway and Roy Mason (Secretary of State for NI) and posse after some priest in Cushendall had been doing para military things and NIO wanted him out so Fadger O got shifted! I remember it because I was sat in the 6th form study reading the Daily Mirror on a study period when I got dragged out by Joe to do meets & greets and escort the people in. I remember being introduced to Roy Mason by Joe - when I went home and told my dad he couldn't believe Roy Mason had been to St Pats!

Fr John Foy (who replaced Jackie Fitzsimmons) - without doubt the coolest priest "dude" ever. I always remember him telling us in RE about by the time we were 25, 40 and 50 about so many of us would be mentally ill, so many would be dead etc.  

Teachers:

Mr Thompson (chemistry and physics) appears in the video - remember him as a seriously stern bloke
Pascal Mc Caffrey - legend in his own lunchtime
Richard "The Mern" Mernock - Head of French and for whom the language lab was his personal toy
Sheila (?) Curran - female French teacher who I seem to remember had enormous boobs
Brendan "Ghostie" Marron - French & Careers - good at French but abysmal with careers advice!
(There was another heavy built man who appeared around 74/5 who taught in Ghosties room who took me to the Ulster Hospital one day because he said I had broke my thumb - despite my protests that I was double jointed he frog marched me off only to be told I was right by doctors)
Maeve (?) - English teacher who married John  "the Duke" Mc Gukian (Geography)
Sharon Mullan (English) - loved her - she eventually married Tim Mc Call (History) who was brother of the legendary Danny Mc Call - he got me an A in A Level History - I was chuffed!
Seamus "BBC NI" Mc Kee - great guy - Cocked up in later years allegedly teaching a set book which wasn't on exam syllabus
"The Weed" - taught Latin, can't remember his name
Una Hegarty (Maths) - always used to flash her knickers going upstairs because her skirts were too short!
Henry Magee - taught French and Spanish and left in 76 I seem to remember?
Patrick Doris - ace dude and Spanish teacher. Who remembers down in the huts:

"El tren para Fuentefria va a salir" on the audio video course?
? Mc Kernan - taught Irish - seemed to be anti anyone who didn't learn Irish! (I'd had enough of the Christian Brothers at primary school beating the crap out of me learning "Buntus Cainte" so I chose Spanish!
Jamesy tart - what did he teach?
? Kearney - taught Latin & Ancient History

Pupils -

Liam Wilson - star of school videos!
Michael Walsh - his father was a music teacher down in the huts
Patrick Hayes - Sean's brother
David Mc Crory
Hugh Boyle
Donal Murtagh
Paul Quinn
David Mc Caghey
Patrick Delaney
Eugene "Bumble" Hughes
Frankie Mc Kenna from Ballyhack
Joe Mc Cann (?) from the West Circular - his dad worked at UTV
Stephen Wilson
Peter Keeling
Michael Mc Burney
Anthony Barr
Richard Mc Conn - now lives in Qatar and builds airports
Michael Eccles - ace footballer (in our eyes) and went to Man Utd for a trial and got knocked back and never ever got over it!
Michael Sands - was off for a very long time following very bad burns from a fire damaged his legs
Tommy Roe - lived in College Square North
Stephen Beacom
Philip Beagon
Philip O'Loane
James Sisk - family were builders
Marcus Smith

I am sure there are many many more. .it's funny the things that come back....

The No. 1 &  2 Ormeau buses, the Andytown, running the gauntlet of the 76 on the Albertbridge Road and who remembers Maisie's shop at the bottom of the hill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The school dinners always seemed to have been great:-
shortbread biscuits and pink custard
the sausage pie with potatoes and carrots
and there were ALWAYS seconds and as your class progressed your table moved closer to the serving hatches and got thirds and fourths. We used to take brown and red sauce to the canteen - Richard Mc Conn used to carry it in his blazer pockets until some prat of a 3rd year hit him with a ball and the ketchup bottle exploded in his pocket. It was everywhere and Una Hegarty thought he had been shot!

Good to see Joe Vallely the caretaker in the videos as well.

I am sorry if I have rambled on but this thread is amazing and the memories (long locked away) are flooding back!


Yogi

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Re: St Patricks College Knock Gilnahirk
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2014, 04:16:58 PM »
Hi there,
there were a couple of other interesting teachers at that time who did not last long! I can only remember nicknames "Pepe" geography I think. Was virtually hounded out of the school by the pupils who kicked his door in at every opportunity. He was a drummer in a band too. Then there was "Monster Mash". Completely insane. used to write on the blackboard holding a mirror to see who was talking!
the Weed was John McConnell. Then there was John O'Connell (Jock) the art teacher who resembled Toulouse Lautrec.

Yes Seamus McKee did screw up once and it was in my year 77), Twelfth Night was not on the syllabus. I failed English Lit!!

irishcolum

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Re: St Patricks College Knock Gilnahirk
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2014, 11:01:54 PM »


Left to right: Eugene O'Loan, Paul Donegan, Lian Wilson, Dessi Ginty, Paul Owens


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Re: St Patricks College Knock Gilnahirk
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2014, 05:45:28 PM »
The fiercesome Mr. Bradley is my bother, moved to Dublin City University and is contently retired!!

Alpine Fan

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Re: St Patricks College Knock Gilnahirk
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2014, 09:24:05 PM »
A message for billh35

Fr Jackie Fitzsimons did give up being a priest.  He did not have an affair. Your statement is defamatory and you need to withdraw it.

Bugsy

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Re: St Patricks College Knock Gilnahirk
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2014, 08:27:27 AM »
Fr Jackie Fitsimmons - great gaelic player and left priesthood after "losing the faith" and allegedly having an affair?


In the best "Have I got News for You" tradition, he did use 'allegedly'.


Did you teach at the school yourself?

Alpine Fan

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Re: St Patricks College Knock Gilnahirk
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2014, 06:41:44 PM »
For Bugsy and billh35

Yes, the word "allegedly" was used  but that is insufficient.

The fact that the word "affair" and the name were used in the same sentence is enough to destroy a person's good name.

I could see the statement by billh35 as being of the sort that could result in court proceedings.

I am neither a former pupil nor teacher of the school.


irishcolum

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Re: St Patricks College Knock Gilnahirk
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2014, 06:55:02 PM »
to Alpine Fan

Since you are neither a former pupil or teacher at this school I can't see why you're interested in this thread at all.
If you have nothing positive to contribute then go f[size=78%]ind some other forum where you can throw around your veiled legal threats.[/size]

bjay

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Re: St Patricks College Knock Gilnahirk
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2014, 07:51:08 PM »
The school opened in Sept. '67, if my memory serves me well.  Bernard Dorrian, Gerard Hughes and Paul ( Kipper) Kerr were amongst the first intake I believe.

brianposullivan

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Re: St Patricks College Knock Gilnahirk
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2014, 09:35:04 PM »
I was there after Our Lady's merged but many of those teachers were there in my day.

William /Bill Thompson was the head of the Upper School and a very stern man, took no messing at all. But he was quite a nice man if you spoke to him one on one.

Mernock's name was Tony, not Richard. AP Mernock. The Mern seemed to have an encyclopaedic knowledge of Politics but didn't really like the people he was teaching.

Pat Kernan was the Irish enthusiast. Vice Principal in charge of discipline. Again, hard as nails, but those who could explain their actions in Irish always got a lesser punishment than the likes of me, learning German.

I saw Paschal about five years ago in the Ulster Museum. Told me he had retired and was loving it. Spending his time on arts, culture, museums etc. He always drove a Toyota Celica. A two door coupe was very glamorous to us.

There was a Hiram Morgan who was on the staff. Ran the stationery shop and took the dinner tickets.

Bugsy

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Re: St Patricks College Knock Gilnahirk
« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2015, 03:19:36 PM »
For Bugsy and billh35

Yes, the word "allegedly" was used  but that is insufficient.

The fact that the word "affair" and the name were used in the same sentence is enough to destroy a person's good name.

I could see the statement by billh35 as being of the sort that could result in court proceedings.

I am neither a former pupil nor teacher of the school.

Alpine Fan

Not that I'm one to pass judgement, but in the light of the drip drip revelations about sex abuse by priests and the subsequent cover up by the hierarchy of the catholic church, I'd have thought that, by comparison, any alleged incidence of an affair would hardly cause an eyebrow to raise.

As Irishcolum has stated, if were not associated with the school, why bother?  If you believe that what was quoted is libelous or defamatory then I'd advise you find a less contentious forum.  Maybe as an ex teacher yourself you feel the need to defend?


hungry homer

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Re: St Patricks College Knock Gilnahirk
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2015, 09:21:33 PM »
I had the misfortune of being at St. Pats from 1968 - 1973.

In my year there was Paul Browne,John Busby, Chris Kelly, Colm Coney, Finbar Cross, Jim O'Brien.

Teachers I liked were Paddy Doris - a great guy, Tony Mernock (RIP) had a couple of good trips to Paris in the 70s, Dan McCall, Liam Kearney and Una Hegarty (obvious reasons)

Jackie Fitzsimmons tried to teach me science, and probably wished he hadn't bothered. Jackie left the priesthood after a row with that @sshole bishop Philbin. I used to see Jackie up at Carryduff GAC where his son was in the same underage team as my eldest lad.

The troubles serious affected the school and the numbers in the early 70s - getting home from 5 miles of hostile territory in East Belfast was no fun during 1972/73.

Anyway, the school is something else now - a far cry from the old portacabins I was taught in in my first 3 years.

irishcolum

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Re: St Patricks College Knock Gilnahirk
« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2015, 04:44:36 AM »
Sorry, Homer...you were too far ahead of me to remember you...a whole 3 years !
But I remember some of the names you threw out there.
I agree, it's amazing that any of us survived our "education" there, but we did. Even more shocking is we are alive today to talk about it. Sounds like you stayed in Belfast. I left in 1976 and have only ever visited since.
Regards Colum


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Re: St Patricks College Knock Gilnahirk
« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2015, 06:23:09 PM »
I created my account specifically to reply to this thread...

My name is Jim Malaugh. I was at St Patrick's from 71 to 78, apart from a brief sojourn in Clydebank that was the result of an unplanned and rapid departure from our home in Castlereagh in the summer of '72. All part of our colourful upbringing in that troubled period in Belfast. a bit dramatic at the time, but did us no harm at all :-)

I loved the school. Father Conway made sure I never got into too much trouble despite my best efforts.

My class was a great bunch of lads, many of whom have been mentioned already. Tim and Niall McLaughlin, Willie McGann, Philip Beagon, Eugene Rooney, James Sweeney, Hiram Morgan, Tom Travers, John Ivory, "Titch" McGuire... damn, my memory for names is awful. There are many more that will come to me!

Bugsy, thanks for the reminders!

Several of these lads played football for Aquinas in the early seventies, which in fact led me to this page. My uncle, John Cassidy, ran the team, and was a leading light in the South Belfast Football League. Sadly, he just passed away. I was hoping to find some of the players from that era before the funeral on 27th February. Short notice, I know.

Does anyone have contact information for Willie McGann, James Sweeney, or the McLaughlin twins?

Jim Malaugh
lukyduc at outlook dot com