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Rangerover

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Re: Sandy Row
« Reply #3870 on: February 06, 2010, 04:44:26 PM »
Hello Val,
Thank you for the warm welcome, its greatly appreciated.
 
Val I am getting the feeling that this lady Molly could have been Molly Hull... does that ring a bell?
 
As for Matthews kindness ? yes I can vouch for that also because 3 or 4 of us would go to Isabeals on a fairly regular basis for a late night feed =))
 
And although we always paid, Matthew always made sure that we received huge helpings, and as we were usually the last customers in the place he would bring 2 or 3 large jugs of ice cold milk for us to wash our meal down.
 
As we were the last customers we would take Matthew home, either by car or just walk up to Rankins furniture store, Matthew always seemed to be carrying a lot of money with him.
I'm not sure if it was the nights takings or just a huge amount of tips, but either way he felt a lot more secure having had an escort home.
 
Hi Rangerover and a big Sandy Row Welcome to you,

sorry I haven't been on much in the last few days so I had to catch up on what I had missed.

Yes, I knew Matthew Stobie, really well, I wrote about him one time before. He was a gentleman and he treated our family to a lot of leftover pastries and cakes from Isabeal's. I know this restaurant did a fantastic trade due to Matthew but he really was a good man.

I remember the chippy but I can't remember Matthew being there, I may have been to young then. You know I can't for the life of me remember a Molly living in Norwood St. but I do remember a Madgie Mason working in the chippy. Her parents lived a few doors down from the chippy and she chummed about with my older sister.

Great to see all the pics. and to hear all the different stories. I would love to know if Niblock's sp. in Hunter St. was a money lender.? I remember collecting my Uncle's pay on a Friday night as he was really bad with Asthma and then he would give me some money to take to Hunter St. just curious. :D

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Re: Sandy Row
« Reply #3871 on: February 06, 2010, 04:52:29 PM »
Hello Kathleen,
 
Thanks for the very interesting reply regarding the street signs, made of lead......... OMG I can see where the weight would come from, I always thought they would have been made from cast iron.
 
Kathleen I notice in you signature/tribute that your grandfather was called James McGimpsey , was your dad also called James(Jimmy) McGimpsy and was he by any chance a boilerman ?
 
If so I have a very funny story that I can tell you  :smile:
 
Rangerover, regarding the old Sandy Row street signs, my uncle here in Canada who had a bar in his basement as was popular in the 70's/80's over here, inquired about buying the "Clementine Street" sign to display as he was born and grew up in that Street and was told he could have it but when a cousin of mine went to collect it for him and had it weighed for shipping he decided it was too expensive :scratch_ones_head: The signs were made of lead !  My cousin then phoned the Ulster Folk Museum who jumped at the chance of owning it. So yes it was possible to buy them at the time but I too wonder just how many did. What a wonderful piece of old Sandy Row to own !!

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« Reply #3872 on: February 06, 2010, 05:01:54 PM »
Hi PW
Thanks for clearing up that long lasting mystery in my life.
 
BTW.... didn't one of Burnsey's sons go on to be a top flight football referee ?
 
And I don't know where this has come from, but I have this mental picture in my head that there was an old style street lamp outside Burnseys house( or the Martins house ) it was the type that was mounted on the wall as opposed to being the free standing lamp post type..... funny the tricks your mind can play on you lollll
 
hi rangerover
as it was 50 yearsago had to get the old grey matter working it was used for cleaning printing type

my first job was to  put the  power in looked like a snowman  with powder all over me i was set up by fat burns as we called him
it was burnsey who got me the job   they also made their own glue  that was my job boiling up cows feet and horses hoofs
oboy the smell i stink for hours 
burnsey was a great bloke to work with as were the rest of them one big happy family at clealands diden matter  if you were
a mick or a prod every one got on 

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Re: Sandy Row
« Reply #3873 on: February 06, 2010, 05:44:33 PM »
Hi PW....
Always trust and follow your " cunning animal instinct " ... you'll live longer that way  ::)
 
I will never forget the very first Corsican funeral I attended, it was like a scene straight out of the Godfather movie !!! even right down to the music.
 
The Corsicans are the most tightly knit people I have ever met, you think that the people from Sandy Row are clanish, they are not in the same league as these people.
 
Many of the old family disputes are still settled at the end of a gun, and we also have a seperatist movement here that leaves the odd bomb outside a police station ... bit like Belfast come to think of it LOLLLLLLL
 
They also blow up holiday homes that are owned by foreigners.
 
But once the Corsicans accept you into their community they are true friends who would share their last bite of food with you .... usually a horse's head  :smile:
 
BTW... tell your Wee Willie to stay away from the Foreign Legion, because they will send him to parts of Africa where the women are running around naked, on second thoughts that would only encourage him ... just tell him he would not like the french cooking  :D
 
PS ... in 2007 24% of the French Foreign Legion was made up of non french people..
 
Hence the motto...  "Legio Patria Nostra" (The Legion is our Homeland)

 
 
 

 :comando: The " Corsica" address,with my animal cunning instinct having  kicked in ,begs caution!! I sure don't want a horse's head on my pillow in the morning!! ;)
 
"Ulster Canadian" has already taken me out by the root for wandering off "thread" but his heart is,I assure you,in the right place!
 
Corsica!! How come? Were you in the "Legion?" My wee lad,"Our wee Willie", was for ages threatening us with joining the "Legion". Whatever! Your post has opened a new avenue,as  recently,I have become aware,that Australia and Canada ,were,in the main,the places of choice for the ex-pats.
Send a PM,if you so desire and who knows!!??
 
"Faugh-a- ballagh!!"

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« Reply #3874 on: February 06, 2010, 07:05:50 PM »
 :hi: "RANGEROVER"!!
 
That was a super post!
 
 Believe it or not,I once worked for a well known Belfast Car Dealer.About a year or so before I started there,they had employed a wee man,whose father had served with the British Army in "The Days of Empire" and he was the product of his father having married an Indian girl.
 
A story had found its way into "The Tele" about "Ron" having served in the Legion. With his dark complexion I imagine he would have fitted well in.
 
Anyway, a local "military crew" in Belfast had tried to recruit him as an "advisor",shall we say and between one thing and another "Ron" had decided to find his way back to the land of his birth.I suppose an aeroplane ticket would have been the preferred option,but "Ron",on a limited budget,built himself a motorboat.Not a sailing boat,just a wee motorboat.
 
"Ron" victualled his voyage by asking local traders for any spare tinned food.
The Ormeau Bakery gifted him boxes of Christmas cakes and "Ron" even called to our "Boss" and was given "a wee envelope" to help him on his way.I was assured that "Ron" had been a quare grafter and had made a good profit for his employer as the best car wash operator in East Belfast,bar none!
 
To the annoyance of the "Ballyholme Yacht Club"   "Ron"  berthed this wee craft in their hollowed waters and just before he sailed,he came to bid his kind employer farewell.I was regaled by the salesmen,that on that fateful day, "Ron" arrived resplendent in a yachting cap,double-breasted navy blazer,white slacks and lovely wee white boating shoes.
 
My personal involvment was when I saw my "Boss" scurrying away when reporters came to get a story as news of "Ron's"  voyage had began to filter back to Belfast.(I actually heard it on the news and followed it in the National press).
 
"Ron" bid Belfast "Adieu" and sailed out of Belfast Lough.He nearly got past the Isle of Man but was rescued by the R.N.L.I. off the coast of  that fair isle. Undeterred,he repaired the leaks and continued,sadly to be towed into a Welsh port after sending up a "Maroon".
 
The absolute last word I ever heard of "Ron" was when,following his third rescue, somewhere of the south coast of England,was when a Coastguard spokesperson,
said," We look forward to this man leaving British Territorial Waters!".
 
The Legion sure do breed them tough!!
 
Apologies all round to Forum members for straying off thread: bit like "Ron",
 No Compass!!
 
" Kitchen house reared and still,rough as Purdy Oaten ".

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Re: Sandy Row
« Reply #3875 on: February 06, 2010, 09:11:58 PM »
Rangerover & Pennywhistle,

feel free to write your stories we all enjoy them, we don't get uptight here if we tend to stray, it makes it more fun.

I really enjoy your stories.  About Matthew, as I said before he lived just a few doors up, across the street from us. There is a big family of us and our Mother died 59 yrs. ago on Monday. He was always especially good to us, the only thing was he never called me by my name, he always called me by my younger sisters name.  We all went home in 1980 for the first time since leaving in 1966. We were standing outside Mrs. Matthews wee shop or (you may have known it as May McBeigh's) looking down Norwood St. My two daughters wanted to go down and see our house but my brother felt it was best to hold unto the good memories we had.
Anyway, this head peeps out of the 2nd house on the left and the next thing I heard, Sievia, (Sylvia was her name)  wait for me. Matthew came running to meet me and I couldn't believe he recognized me right away. He was so delighted to see me and couldn't get over my two girls, and of course he had to give then some money for sweeties.

His brother George was a champion ballroom dancer and opened Dance schools in England, and he also had a sister as well.

   

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Re: Sandy Row
« Reply #3876 on: February 06, 2010, 09:20:27 PM »
Hello Kathleen,
 
Thanks for the very interesting reply regarding the street signs, made of lead......... OMG I can see where the weight would come from, I always thought they would have been made from cast iron.
 
Kathleen I notice in you signature/tribute that your grandfather was called James McGimpsey , was your dad also called James(Jimmy) McGimpsy and was he by any chance a boilerman ?
 
If so I have a very funny story that I can tell you  :smile:

Yes my father was called Jimmy McGimpsey and he was a bolier man !! He worked in the Law Courts for  long while before he retired. Sadly my father suffered a massive stroke which left him blind for the last sixteen years of his life and he died on 29th October 1999. It's so great to know that you remember him and have a story about him. Can't wait to hear it :smile:
" Tell them for their tomorrow, we gave our today"
A World War 1 soldier.

In memory of my grandfather, James McGimpsey. 9th Royal Scots.

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Re: Sandy Row
« Reply #3877 on: February 06, 2010, 09:47:45 PM »

Yes my father was called Jimmy McGimpsey and he was a bolier man !! He worked in the Law Courts for  long while before he retired. Sadly my father suffered a massive stroke which left him blind for the last sixteen years of his life and he died on 29th October 1999. It's so great to know that you remember him and have a story about him. Can't wait to hear it :smile:

Hiya Kathleen,
 
worried now that my e-mail and pics. have got lost! I promise you I honestly sent them! Didn't know about your dad.
" Kitchen house reared and still,rough as Purdy Oaten ".

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« Reply #3878 on: February 06, 2010, 10:13:39 PM »
Billy, I got your e-mail and gorgeous photos. Thank you !! I will reply shortly :smile:
" Tell them for their tomorrow, we gave our today"
A World War 1 soldier.

In memory of my grandfather, James McGimpsey. 9th Royal Scots.

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« Reply #3879 on: February 06, 2010, 11:37:04 PM »
yes rangerover burneys son harry was o football referee
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« Reply #3880 on: February 07, 2010, 12:26:54 AM »
Here is a few more scans of stuff that I've found in books and a newspaper.
I hope you enjoy.Sorry about the poor quality.
 
Sandy row...the caption reads...a prewar photograph showing a tram traveling along Sandy Row.Note the cobbled street.
The Orange Hall can be seen in the photo.

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« Reply #3881 on: February 07, 2010, 12:29:18 AM »

 
Hewitt Bros advert....scanned from The Belfast Newsletter May 14 1945!

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« Reply #3882 on: February 07, 2010, 12:33:44 AM »
Last one for the moment.....I think this may have been taken in the early 70's? from the Boyne Bridge.
 

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« Reply #3883 on: February 07, 2010, 11:58:37 AM »
Anyone remember the couple of whitewashed mill cottages in Rowland Street?  My aunt Lilly Simpson(nee Curliss originaly from Eureka St) lived in one and worked in the mill. :scratch_ones_head:   

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« Reply #3884 on: February 07, 2010, 03:52:12 PM »
Hi David [Joe] Martin
I remember those houses in Rowland Street [Tea Lane] My grandfather [Hugh Hanna] lived  in one of them.  And I knew Lily Simpson well ,,, lived two doors away from her in Eureka Street ... worked with her brother Jamesy at Blackstaff Mill ands was a a mate of her brother Eddie, ... knew them all.   Was your mother Maisie?  Good to hear from you
Ackerman [Hugh Gorman]