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joebhoy

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got to be famous??
« on: July 22, 2006, 05:44:56 PM »
it is hard to think that when a member of your family dies that only those close to that person remember them, or the great great grandson decides to do some genealogy, if your name was elvis, the whole world remembers you but the simple joe bloggs just gets buried and only worshipped by close family. so i suggests that we post as many names as possible on the genealogy board, highlighting their lives and asking for help to fill any gaps they may have had in their lifes, it is nice to talk about old family what do you think?

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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2006, 07:06:32 PM »
You've posted an interesting message Joe. Genealogy is a fascinating subject. People in many of the developed countries are deeply involved in researching their family trees. Genealogy is big business nowdays and the membership of genealogy sites on the net grows be the day. Politicians at national and local level are looking for ways to make access to archives easier for researchers, both on the net and in record offices. They realise genealogists are coming to their countries with some money to spend which will help the local economy.
I have posted details about what is happening in Belfast and Northern Ireland.

The situation in underdeveloped countries is totally different. Their populations are huge. Disease, drought and starvation are rife. Millions of children are lucky to reach adulthood. Adults fare no better and do not have the same expectations of a long life as those in the developed world. The Presidents of some of those countries are well known at an international level. They live off the fat of the land in their grand palaces and ensure that members of their families do the same. They don't give a fig about the people dying all round them. It's a case of "I'm all right, Jack"

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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2006, 11:08:20 PM »
just a wee bit more on genealogy christopher, here in glasgow they are paying genealogists to investigate/research glasgow's history for the tourist trade!! people are also paying genealogy researchers to research their homes in the hope that someone famous may have stayed there, it increases the price of there house!! genealogy has now become BIG business.

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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2006, 11:43:47 PM »
Joe, could you expand on that please? How do you mean research the history of the City for the tourist trade? I know that people like knowing if a famous person lived in their homes at one time but had not previously heard about that tourist trade idea.

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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2006, 12:41:40 AM »
hi pal, it is becoming more like hollywood here!! casino's and the likes, all becoming very retail orintainted, the genealogist is researching archives to find famous landmarks to include in tours, walking and driving tours, informing tourists that such and such lived there, was designed by, stayed in this hotel ect ect

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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2006, 02:08:15 AM »
I'm with you Joe. A great idea. Cities are not the only place where this type of research could be done. Other people besides genealogists could so this type of research. I think school children from Primary upwards do this in their local towns and villages already. Their projects are displayed in their local library .. the projects may include interviews with the local clergy, a historian and an oldest citizen. Good projects also include pictures of historical buildings and maps of the area.

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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2006, 08:45:28 AM »
it is great to get the kids involved, it makes the place they live more memorable

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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2006, 11:06:38 AM »
Hiya Joe, this site about Euston Street Primary School in East Belfast will interest you.
Here is another link to the school. There's a picture of The Lady Mayoress, the Marchioness of Londonderry, at the laying of the foundation stone in January 1925 and two of the official opening of the school in July 1926.

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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2006, 11:19:06 PM »
what a wonderful wonderful contribution to life in belfast

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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2006, 01:04:08 AM »
You have made a really good point about the every day person. I just started to find out where my mom's family comes from. My problem is I don't know my father and I have found little shreds of information in the last 21 years. I have a name and not much else it is like chasing a ghost. I run into wall after wall looking for my father and I have also run into a wall with my mother's family. There was a child of my great grandfather's that no one even knows his name. I think it is even harder to find your history when your family came to the US and names have changed through time. We do need to put names on here as many as can fit. Thanks New York

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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2006, 04:04:54 PM »
thanks for sharing that new york, post post and post that is my advice, someone maybe be able to point you in the right direction regarding your father's family.

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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2006, 01:22:35 PM »
Guys tell all your grandchildren to ask Granny and Granda every name and address that they can remember about their family
A total wealth of info has been lost which could have come via "word of mouth"
I could kick myself when I think back

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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2006, 09:07:21 PM »
Quite right too Mageeka, I wholeheartedly agree with you on that point.  I also feel that the social history of the immediate area in which a person lives as well as the history of one's family and the families living in that area be it a village or a small town is far more important than learning about "1066 and all That."

Joe is stopping with me for a couple of days whilst he researches the history of his family who lived at Ligoniel and on the Crumlin Road in Belfast. We have been discussing the social history and I must say I agree with a comment Joe has just made to me .. there would be a lot less vandalism if youngsters knew a little more about the area in which they lived.   

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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2006, 11:54:40 PM »
Mageeka

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Guys tell all your grandchildren to ask Granny and Granda every name and address that they can remember about their family

My wife, friends from N. Ireland, and myself, had tried to ask these questions, and we all found that the answers were not forth coming.
There seemed to be a lot of selective amnesia, I think there must have been a lot of "hanky panky " in days gone bye, and they did not want their dirty little secrets to get out . :o

As an example. One of our local Catholic families, when I was in my pre teens.

The Mother, and eldest daughter had not been seen for many months, then the Mother appeared with a new child, and the Daughter also re-appeared.

One of the Sons told us that the Daughter had got pregnant (out of WEDLOCK  :o ), She was sent off to England so that no one would know she was pregnant.
The Mother never left the house.

When the child was born, Daughter came home from England, Mother claimed that child was hers.
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When will the I.R.A. pay Compensation to their Innocent Victims or Relatives.

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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2006, 01:16:14 AM »
Sure in this day and age who cares if your sister was your mammy and your mammy was your granny? :D
Be honest, laugh about the incident. Kids should be given the honest facts not LIES as soon as they learn to talk. They may not understand at the time but they will take in the information given to them. They will mull it over for a few years .. they'll then come back and say "Do you remember one time that Sis was my Mummy and you were my Granny? How did that happen and why did you tell me that ... is it true?"

Those who have a child when you are in your teens or barely out of them and have that child adopted ... then go on to marry and have a family of two or more ... but keep the child who was adopted a secret are no better than mummies pretending to be sisters.. will you grow up and have some sense please. Little LIES make bigger LIES and so ad infinitum. Lets start telling the TRUTH for a change.  I am sure most of us have seen the tears of elderly brothers and sisters who have finally managed to track each other down after a lengthy search. Television companies show such meetings occasionally. If they had found each other when they were young think how much pleasure they and their families could have shared.