Mattthew Anderson

[accy54]

Hi My grandmother was Elizabeth Anderson married Robert Arbuthnot circa 1920-28 I have seen refs to a Lizzie as the daughter  they lived on the Shankill Rd. 7 children robert(bobby), william(billy) mae, margaret, edna, elizabeth (betty) sylvia. Anyone have any info please.

[Aileach41]

Hi Accy, I would need some more information on Elizabeth Anderson such as her date of birth and her parents.

[CMcG]

Hi My grandmother was Elizabeth Anderson married Robert Arbuthnot circa 1920-28 I have seen refs to a Lizzie as the daughter  they lived on the Shankill Rd. 7 children robert(bobby), william(billy) mae, margaret, edna, elizabeth (betty) sylvia. Anyone have any info please.

The struggle here is going to be because the events are relatively too modern to gain any information online.

However, a possibility is a 23 year old Robert Arbuthnot from Penrith Street who married Elizabeth Anderson (same age) from Wall Street on 10 March 1928 in St. Anne's Church of Ireland Belfast.

The groom's father was called William John Arbuthnot, the bride's father was called John Anderson.

There was a Robert Arbuthnot born 26 July 1904 with mother's maiden name Dickson, this would tie in to parents William John Arbuthnot and Maria Dickson who married in St. Anne's Church of Ireland Belfast on 2 March 1900.

But this is pretty flimsy stuff, does any of it ring a bell?

[valkerr]

http://www.kittybrewster.com/members/table_35.htm
   e.   ROBERT ARBUTHNOT, Senior. Born 26 July 1904. Married, ?.?.19??, ELIZABETH ANDERSON. They separated. His address: 4 Crumlin Gardens, Belfast. Her address: 1c Bracken Drive, Rush Park, Newtonabbey, Co Antrimb      
1.   Robert Arbuthnot, Junior. Born 6 February 1928. Died 7 June 2001. Married, 7 August 1948, Jessie ("Jess") Lumsden (born 2 May 1928, died 11 December 1989). Lived at: 54 Primrose Street, Accrington, Lancashire (01254-382573)      
a.   Robert Arbuthnot, III. Born 28 January 1950. A weaver with Smith & Nephew. Married first, 1972, _____ _____. Married second, 1980, Sylvia Pratt (previously married to Mr Hogg?), dau of Percy Pratt.      
AA.   David ("Dave") Robert Arbuthnot.  Born Blackburn 25 March 1981.  Lives in Blackburn, Lancashire.      
Robert married third in Blackburn, October 1986, Miss Braddock?? Married fourth, 17 December 1994, Katherine Wilson (born 17 December 1967), dau of Roy Wilson. They live in Clitheroe      
b.   Yvonne Arbuthnot. Born 6 June 1954.   She had a daughter by Patrick Mathews of Accrington, Lancashire:      
AA.   Justine Kirsa Arbuthnot. Born 22nd February 1972      
Yvonne married 15 June 1985 (Terence) Jeffrey ("Jeff") Hale (born 20 July 1954), son of Terence ("Terry") Malcolm Hale and Phylis Kathleen, née Payne      
c.   Rochelle Mae Arbuthnot. Born 12 March 1957.   Married 9 August 1975 Kieran James Donlon (born 17 July 1956), son of John Joseph Donlon, née Donellan and Margaret née Proctor.      
AA.   Kieran Simon Donlon  Born 28th November 1975.      
BB.   Andrew Robert Donlon  Born 15th April 1980.      
d.   
Iain Edmund Arbuthnot. Born 16 February 1963. Married 12 August 1989 Mandie Taylor (born 28 December 1967), dau of Reginald and Irene Taylor.

AA.   Amber Louise Arbuthnot. Born 4 July 1995.      
BB.   Alycia Jade Arbuthnot. Born 7 November 1997.      
CC.   Cameron James Arbuthnot. Born March 2004.      
2.   WILLIAM JOHN ALEXANDER ARBUTHNOT. Born Belfast 16 September 1930. Married, 10 March 1956, JANE HOOKS (born 20 January 1932). Address: 12 Ards Drive, Newtonabbey, Co Antrim (0231- 66609).      
a.   COLIN JOHN ARBUTHNOT. Born 28 September 1966      
b.   LORRAINE ARBUTHNOT. Born 12 December 1964      
3.   ELIZABETH ("BETTY") ARBUTHNOT. Born 14 November 1932. Married, 31 July 1953, JAMES ("JIM") HOOKS, Senior. They were divorced and she reverted to her maiden name. Address: 7 Avonlea Gardens, Newtonabbey, Co Antrim (0231-51427).      
a.   ELIZABETH ANNE HOOKS. Born ?.?.c.1953.      
b.   JAMES ("JIM") HOOKS, Junior. Born ?.?.c.1954.      
c.   SAMUEL HOOKS. Born ?.?.c.1966.      
4.   MARIA ("MAY") ARBUTHNOT. Born 31 August 1934. Married, ?.?.19??, ROBERT FINLAY. Address: 16 Deerfin Park, Rathcoole, Newtonabbey, Co Antrim (0231-64677).      
a.   SUSAN FINLAY. Born -- February 1956. Married EVAN BOND.      
AA.   EVAN ROBERT BOND.      
b.   LINDA FINLAY. Born c.1961.      
c.   GEOFFREY FINLAY. Born c.1963.      
d.   STEPHEN FINLAY. Born c.1967.      
5.   MARGARET ARBUTHNOT. Born 13 November 1936. Married, ?.?.19??, WILLIAM GORDON, Senior. Address: 10 Bracken Drive, Rush Park, Newtonabbey, Co Antrim (0231-69255).      
a.   HEATHER GORDON. Born ?.?.19??. Died aged six months.      
b.   WILLIAM ("BILL") GORDON, Junior. Born 8 June 1962.      
c.   ALAN GORDON. Born 1 July 1965.      
d.   NORMA GORDON. Born 23 August 1966.      
e.   DAVID GORDON. Born 11 June 1972.      
6.   EDNA ARBUTHNOT. Born 27 March 1938. Married, ?.?.19??, ANTHONY HACKING, Senior. Address: 8 Twinburn Gardens, Newtonabbey, Co Antrim (0231-67367).      
a.   
ANTHONY HACKING, Junior. Born 10 January 1963.

b..   
GRAHAM HACKING. Born 2 March 1966.

7.   SYLVIA ARBUTHNOT. Born 5 January 1940. She has the family bible. Married, 4 November 1961, GEORGE COWAN (born 28 July 1934). Address: 108 Erinvale Gardens, Finaghy, Belfast (0232- 617456).      
a.   PAMELA COWAN. Born 3 November 1962.      
b.   DIANE COWAN. Born 16 April 1964.      
c.   ELAINE COWAN. Born 27 November 1965.      
d.   MELANIE COWAN. Born 21 December 1973.

[accy54]

Hi Thanks for your response Matthew. I have all the info for Robert it's Elizabeth 's side of the family I am trying to find. Will have a go at the John Anderson see if that leads anywhere thanks again.

[CMcG]

When Elizabeth Anderson married Robert Arbuthnot in 1928, she said she was 23, her given address was 49 Wall Street, father John Anderson was described as a labourer.  The 1924 Belfast street directory, courtesy of the Lennon Wylie website, corroborates that latter fact:

Wall Street
UPPER LIBRARY STREET TO DENMARK STREET

49 Anderson, J., labourer

The nearest available street directories on that website either side of 1924 (1918 and 1932) show a different occupier.  Given that information, it would be tempting for the uninitiated to think that this could be Elizabeth in 1911:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Court/Broadbent_Street/135053/

However the reality is that there are loads of Elizabeth Andersons for that era, it isn't known if the 1928 age of 23 for Elizabeth is accurate,  or if labourer father John even hailed from Ireland, it's a guess.

Do you have any other possible leads for Elizabeth's parents?

[Westmoreland]

My grandfather was Matthew Anderson born April 4 1968 to David Anderson and Mary Jane Beattie,as far as I know they had 5 sons John,Robert matthew(my father)David and James.i believe my grandfather was married twice but I don’t have any information who,where or when.i do know that Elisha Anderson of Vulcan street was my fathers uncle.my grandmother (Matthews wife) was Sarah Jane lee ( daughter or William lee and Mary Curran)29 fourth street in the shank I’ll area,I have no knowledge of them ever having a daughter,so the Sarah Jane mentioned in Aileach41 posts not their daughter if you check the 1911 census she is not mentioned as living in 6 Bangor st although William I believe was my uncle john middle name.   Matthew Anderson b.july 1907 ( my father) son of Matthew b.04/11/1868 son of David b1843 son of Matthew (date not known) I hope this helps

[teehall]

Hi

I am the Great Grand daughter of William Anderson brother to Elisha and Matthew. Elisha's twin was called Robert and both were born Mill Street Comber Co Down 19th July 1886.

[Aileach41]

Hi Westmoreland, David Anderson & Mary Jane Beattie had 8 sons; (1)Robert Henry Anderson b.1867  lived 3 months; (2) Matthew Anderson, b. Mill St. Comber  1868; (3) William Beattie Anderson 1870-1875; (4) Robert Henry Anderson, b. 1873; (5) William Anderson, b. 1878, m. Agnes Stewart; (6) David Anderson b. 1881-1895; (7) Elisha Anderson b. 1886; (8)Robert Anderson 1886 died 6 months later.
No where did I say that Matthew Anderson of Bangor Street had a daughter named Sarah.

[Aileach41]

Hi teehall, You must be a descendant of William Anderson & Agnes Stewart?  I would be interested in knowing your descent from William and Agnes. I have  much more information  on the Andersons and families descended from them.