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66cassidys

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McGinn Family in Belfast
« on: March 24, 2015, 06:57:59 PM »
Alice McGinn and her three youngest adult children moved to Belfast between 1899 and 1901. They migrated from Newtown Saville, Clogher parish Co. Tyrone. In the 1901 Irish Census Alice and her family lived at 23 Clondara Street. Alice died there in 1919 about 87 years old. She is buried at Milltown Cemetery with her son John(1874-1918), and the wives of her son Michael(1872-1953). Elizabeth Boal Shevlin(1865-1922) married Michael in Glasgow in 1917. Margaret O'Hanlon(1877-1941) married Michael in 1928 at St. Malachy in Belfast.

Michael died at 53 Bombay Street in 1953. He left his possessions to his adopted daughter Mrs. Bernadette Blair of Liverpool. His sister Alice McGinn(1870-1954) died the following year. Michael and Alice are buried at Milltown Cemetery in another grave.

There were 5 other children born to Alice McWilliams McGinn(c.1832-1919) and her husband Patrick(1827-1897). Catherine McGinn McGuigan Gormley(1860-1911), Owen McGinn(1862-1926) and Bridget McGinn Mulcahy Meade(1866-1925) all emigrated to NYC in the 1890s. Catherine and Owen have living descendants. The last two brothers were Patrick McGinn born 4 May 1864 and James born 22 Sep 1868. Alice inadvertently answered that all her children were still living in the 1911 Irish census. I have no idea what became of Patrick and James.

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Re: McGinn Family in Belfast
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2015, 07:37:43 PM »
so have you searched the Irish Census 1901 for the two men, and belfast city council  burials records, I am trying to help

66cassidys

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Re: McGinn Family in Belfast
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2015, 08:30:48 PM »
I have looked in Irish census and marriage and death record indexes. I searched in Scotland, England and Wales and the USA. The Scottish marriage and death records listed the maiden surname of the mother so I had certainty they had  not married or died in Scotland.

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Re: McGinn Family in Belfast
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2015, 07:06:12 AM »
I tried http://search.findmypast.co.uk/      went to travel-and-migration section, then entered the two Mcginn there are plenty of James and Patricks migrating, but i didn't have their birth years when looking, so worth trying perhaps.. The irish when emigrating left via England, Liverpool, southampton etc etc from Ireland Queenstown was popular. i.e. keep an open mind of where they left from.  The index is free, the detail is by subscription or credits

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Re: McGinn Family in Belfast
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2015, 07:39:41 PM »


http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Falls/Tralee_Street/174967/

Here is a link for Michael McGinn right age in 1911 Census. Hope it helps.
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Re: McGinn Family in Belfast
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2020, 10:14:56 PM »
I think that the Patrick McGinn you were looking for could be my great grandfather who migrated to live in Maryport, Cumberland (England) (donít know when exactly) and married Charlotte Toole in 1896. I have his date of birth as 4 Mar 1864 rather than 4 May 1864 but that could be a transcription error.  He died 10 March 1945 in Maryport.  He had seven children to my knowledge including John McGinn who was my grandfather.

66cassidys

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Re: McGinn Family in Belfast
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2020, 11:20:52 PM »
It looks likely to be a match. Ancestry DNA suggests that I am a 3rd cousin 1x removed to a known descendant of Patrick Mcginn and Charlotte Toole. Thanks for the heads up. I have been searching trying to see what became of these brothers.

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Re: McGinn Family in Belfast
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2020, 12:01:51 PM »
I think that the Patrick McGinn you were looking for could be my great grandfather who migrated to live in Maryport, Cumberland (England) (donít know when exactly) and married Charlotte Toole in 1896. I have his date of birth as 4 Mar 1864 rather than 4 May 1864 but that could be a transcription error.  He died 10 March 1945 in Maryport.  He had seven children to my knowledge including John McGinn who was my grandfather.

Correction - he had six children not seven.

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Re: McGinn Family in Belfast
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2020, 09:18:45 PM »
Just to update I had learned of this English family that might have been related to my McGinn family years ago. The paper trail was decent but there were enough discrepancies and holes to leave it an open question.

Enter 2020 and AncestryDNA.

The two eldest children of Patrick McGinn and Alice McWilliams have living issue. They not surprisingly match each other. The Patrick McGinn who might be their son and settled in northwestern England has living issue. His descendant matches the other two families descendants.

Most helpful is that this descendant also matched a known McWilliams descendant who does not have a McGinn forebear but he matches each of the three branches of living descendants.