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SueM

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O'Neill
« on: September 06, 2016, 06:27:52 PM »
Looking for information on John O'Neill who was living at 6 Marchioness Street in 1898. There is a ship record for a John O'Neill immigrating to Canada in 1926 with 16 Marchioness Street listed for his sister B O'Neill.  Any information on the O'Neills living here would be great. Thank you!

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Re: O'Neill
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2016, 10:42:34 PM »
Hi Sue, do you have any other names connected to your O'Neills?
I have O'Neills from Marchioness Street also.

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SueM

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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2016, 10:48:57 PM »
Just a ship record of John's who was born c. 1901 and he stated that his sister Miss B O'Neill was living at 16 Marchioness St., Belfast.
He landed in Quebec in 1923. Thanks!

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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2016, 06:03:37 AM »
That's a Roman Catholic area, just off the Falls Road, religious denomination matters in Ireland in regard to records.
1918 Rose A. O'Neill at number 16
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/mcomplete1918.htm

The surname is a common one, and it might just be a coincidence, but...
1918 three other O'Neill households in that street
Number 46 James O'Neill labourer ... number 48 Mrs. O'Neill ... number 50 John O'Neill labourer

1924 Rose A. O'Neill at number 16
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/images/1924BSD/1924strs%200223.jpg

1924 three other O'Neill households in that street
Number 46 James O'Neill labourer  ...  mumber 48 Mrs O'Neill  ...  number 50 John O'Neill labourer

1932 C. McDonnell labourer at number 16
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/mcomplete1932.htm

1932 three other O'Neill households in that street
Number 46 James O'Neill labourer ... number 48 Mrs. O'Neill ... number 50 John O'Neill labourer

1943 Rose Ann McDonnell at number 16.
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/mcomplete1943.htm

1943 two other O'Neill households in that street
Number 46 Michael O'Neill a labourer ....number 50 John O'Neill a labourer.

1951 Mrs R. M'Donald (verbatim) at number 16
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/images/1951BSD/1951strs%200215.jpg

1951 two other O'Neill households in that street
Number 46 Michael O'Neill labourer  ... number 50 John O'Neill labourer

1960 Mrs R. M'Donald (verbatim) at number 16
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/images/1960BSD/1960strs%200252.jpg

1960 one other O'Neill household in that street number 46 James O'Neill labourer

See what you can find here...
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/information-and-services/family-history-heritage-and-museums/research-family-history-general

https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/introduction-groni-and-its-records

Check your passenger record again, a poorly legible R can easily look like a B

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Re: O'Neill
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2016, 06:51:16 AM »
It does look like a B but that might have been an error. He was born in Glasgow and so to find any birth records for him you will have to look here.
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

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Re: O'Neill
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2016, 07:28:09 AM »
Charles McDonnell of 39 Bridge Street Lisburn married Rose Ann O'Neill of 16 Marchioness Street Belfast in St. Peter's, Belfast, on 5 April 1920, Charles' father was given as James McDonnell, a labourer (deceased), Rose Ann's father was given as Daniel O'Neill, a glass blower (deceased), the witnesses were Harry McKinley and Ann Walsh. 

The 1926 manifest for the ship to Quebec places John O'Neill's year of birth as c. 1901, this could be a potential candidate in the 1911 Ireland census living with his grandfather, uncle, aunts, etc. (notice the grandfather's occupation, in the context of that of the father of Rose Ann O'Neill who married Charles McDonnell):

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Smithfield/English_Street/185874/

John O'Neill, Charles McDonnell and the address 16 Marchioness all get a mention together in a 1923 newspaper article, it doesn't add anything to your query, so I'm sending it to you by pm.

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Re: O'Neill
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2016, 08:23:52 AM »
Just a bit of a punt, but an Owen O'Neill (father Daniel) married a Rose McKeever (father Michael) on 26 January 1868, they had a number of children including a daughter Bridget O'Neill at 27 Samuel Street, Belfast, on 15 May 1894 (possibly Bridget in the 1911 census return for house 47 in English Street?) and a son Daniel much earlier on 5 September 1870.

There was a marriage of a Daniel O'Neill to Catherine Connor in St. Mary's Belfast on 29 October 1892, bachelor Daniel was described as a bottle maker living at 27 Samuel Street, the son of Owen O'Neill, also a bottle maker, Catherine was described as a rover living at 21 Lettuce Hill, the daughter of Robert Connor, a labourer, the witnesses were William Mullan and Sarah Ward.

After that marriage I can see several Belfast born children to a couple called Daniel O'Neill and Catherine Connor, including twins Catherine and Bridget born in 1899 (is Bridget John O'Neill's sister B. O'Neill in the 1926 ship's manifest?). Then the Belfast births stop and it goes quiet - consistent with perhaps moving to Scotland?

Just a speculative possibility until it can be ruled in or out.


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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2016, 08:54:54 AM »
Have just discovered that another of the children born in Belfast to parents Daniel O'Neill and Catherine Connor was a Rose Anne O'Neill, she was baptised in St. Mary's on 3 October 1893, critically, the baptism record includes an annotation, as was sometimes the practice, confirming that she went on to marry Charles McDonnell in May 1920 in St. Peter's, Belfast.

So everything has suddenly turned from speculative to more promising.


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Re: O'Neill
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2016, 07:26:00 PM »
Post info from James James
The surname is a common one, and it might just be a coincidence, but...
1918 three other O'Neill households in that street
Number 46 James O'Neill labourer ... number 48 Mrs. O'Neill ... number 50 John O'Neill labourer

1924 Rose A. O'Neill at number 16
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/images/1924BSD/1924strs%200223.jpg

1924 three other O'Neill households in that street
Number 46 James O'Neill labourer  ...  mumber 48 Mrs O'Neill  ...  number 50 John O'Neill labourer

1932 three other O'Neill households in that street
Number 46 James O'Neill labourer ... number 48 Mrs. O'Neill ... number 50 John O'Neill labourer

1943 two other O'Neill households in that street
Number 46 Michael O'Neill a labourer ....number 50 John O'Neill a labourer.

1951 two other O'Neill households in that street
Number 46 Michael O'Neill labourer  ... number 50 John O'Neill labourer

Hi,from the info provided by James James I can rule out the Mrs O’Neill at number 48 Marchioness Street as she is my Great Great Granny.
John O’Neill at number 50 Marchioness Street was married to Rose ?
She died in 1940 aged 59 at 50 Marchioness Street.
In same grave is a Sarah O’Neill died 1921 aged 18 yrs at Plevna Street.
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Re: O'Neill
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2016, 01:02:42 PM »

... There was a marriage of a Daniel O'Neill to Catherine Connor in St. Mary's Belfast on 29 October 1892, bachelor Daniel was described as a bottle maker living at 27 Samuel Street, the son of Owen O'Neill, also a bottle maker, Catherine was described as a rover living at 21 Lettuce Hill, the daughter of Robert Connor, a labourer, the witnesses were William Mullan and Sarah Ward ...


And just to note that the Irish Government has digitised and within the last day or so placed the images online for the following civil records - births over 100 years ago, marriages over 75 years ago and deaths over 50 years ago - these are available to view at the link below (at present it all seems to be free / no charge):

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

So for example, the 1892 marriage of Daniel O'Neill and Catherine Connor:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1892/10648/5879625

From playing around this morning, I've noticed a few records not digitised, so maybe a work in progress, but definitely worth looking at.

SueM

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Re: O'Neill
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2016, 01:12:35 PM »
Thanks everyone for your incredibly wonderful help. What a great forum this is.
From what you all sent, I was able to go through my database of Scottish vitals and make the connection. John O'Neill b. 30 March 1901 in Scotland; he died in Carluke, Lanark in 1960 at 59 years.
His parents were Daniel (glassblower) and Catherine (Connor) O'Neill. Daniel died 23 Mar 1902 in Scotland at 37 yrs old. His father, Owen, reported his death. His mother is listed as Rose McIvor (McKeever).
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2019, 12:22:00 AM »
Thanks everyone for your incredibly wonderful help. What a great forum this is.
From what you all sent, I was able to go through my database of Scottish vitals and make the connection. John O'Neill b. 30 March 1901 in Scotland; he died in Carluke, Lanark in 1960 at 59 years.
His parents were Daniel (glassblower) and Catherine (Connor) O'Neill. Daniel died 23 Mar 1902 in Scotland at 37 yrs old. His father, Owen, reported his death. His mother is listed as Rose McIvor (McKeever).
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[/quote              i have been trying to find out about my great uncle john for a while i am rose annes grandaughter

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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2019, 12:29:49 AM »
John o neill was my grandmothers brother kate conner was my great grandmother my grandmother was rose anne mcdonnell and lived with aunt bridget after charles died there was another sister sarah who married robert mcmillen  i have just started family research but all your very valuable research has saved me so much time if you a relative of john i would love to get in touch i have photos of rose anne and briget but none of their parents

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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2019, 07:48:55 PM »
  RE  JOHN O NEILL  I He was my great uncle   and I was seeking information about him