Author Topic: Should/could Belfast have it's own professional soccer team Gerry want's to know  (Read 5917 times)

gerry mcevoy

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Id imagine having one team in the city would make things easier, similar to Leeds maybe.

RabRow

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Id imagine having one team in the city would make things easier, similar to Leeds maybe.

Could be, but with two teams you'd have the rivalry between them and one trying to outdo the other. Belfast with two teams could draw a big support for both teams. Equal maybe to the big teams in Liverpool and Manchester.

Anyway, its something which could happen given the will but as the will is not there we continue on with the usual...small crowds at our grounds.

stickleback

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Could be, but with two teams you'd have the rivalry between them and one trying to outdo the other. Belfast with two teams could draw a big support for both teams. Equal maybe to the big teams in Liverpool and Manchester.

Anyway, its something which could happen given the will but as the will is not there we continue on with the usual...small crowds at our grounds.

Equal to Liverpool v Manchester United

Are you for real ?

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Equal to Liverpool v Manchester United

Are you for real ?

Aye, why?
Could be, but with two teams you'd have the rivalry between them and one trying to outdo the other. Belfast with two teams could draw a big support for both teams. Equal maybe to the big teams in Liverpool and Manchester.[/size]

I was talking about the potential of this happening and have mentioned in previous posts that we could end up like Bristol Rovers and Bristol City, Sheffield Utd and Sheffield Wednesday and not the big team rivals like Everton v Liverpool and Man Utd v Man City

Everton came from a Sunday School and Man City trod a similar path. The first 'overseas' team to beat Everton was Limavady.

All these teams and others started from humble beginnings and progressed to where they are today. That's what I was meaning.

dmack

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Last time I looked in here yous were still living in la la land about one Belfast team playing the might of the Northern Premier league.

Now you want two!!!

We all know what would happen then.....one team for us and one team for themmuns.

Genius

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Watching the football reports coming in yesterday and one of the reporters said that at the Sheffield Utd v Bolton game the attendance was 27,000. So thought I would look at the average attendances at other two town football teams.

Championship...Sheffield Wed..ave crowd 26,993
League 1...Sheffield Utd.. ave crowd..20,128
Championship...Bristol City...ave crowd..19,262
League 1....Bristol Rovers...ave crowd..9,255


stickleback

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Watching the football reports coming in yesterday and one of the reporters said that at the Sheffield Utd v Bolton game the attendance was 27,000. So thought I would look at the average attendances at other two town football teams.

Championship...Sheffield Wed..ave crowd 26,993
League 1...Sheffield Utd.. ave crowd..20,128
Championship...Bristol City...ave crowd..19,262
League 1....Bristol Rovers...ave crowd..9,255

Apart from the fact that you are quoting Championship clubs when any Irish League clubs would be faced with teams like Dulwich Hamlet, average gate about 1,021 is somewhat fanciful. Apart from the fact that every away match would involve overseas travel for the fans. ..and the cost to the club. And the cost to the penniless away club of travelling to Belfast.

But nevermind the obvious, some folks will simply never get it. What is so great about The Premier League when it has destroyed grass roots football in England ? In the somewhat unlikely event of a N.Irish football team ever participating in the English league there would be very few N. Irish players present. Is that what you want?

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Apart from the fact that you are quoting Championship clubs when any Irish League clubs would be faced with teams like Dulwich Hamlet, average gate about 1,021 is somewhat fanciful. Apart from the fact that every away match would involve overseas travel for the fans. ..and the cost to the club. And the cost to the penniless away club of travelling to Belfast.

But nevermind the obvious, some folks will simply never get it. What is so great about The Premier League when it has destroyed grass roots football in England ? In the somewhat unlikely event of a N.Irish football team ever participating in the English league there would be very few N. Irish players present. Is that what you want?

I don't think when they were formed they started of in the Championship.

Have said it on here a few times. Everton,Liverpool,Manchester City etc ALL came from humble beginnings with maybe just a 100 or 200 watching if they were lucky.

Everton were beaten by Limavady but look where Everton is now.

A saying is ''where there is no vision the people perish ''  We carry on as usual.

As for players from Ulster. At the moment we have 3 playing for W B and a few others elsewhere. We fielded a team of NI players in France and didn't do too bad.

But its only pie in the sky and it will never happen.

gerry mcevoy

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Fleetwood Town were in the NWCFL approx 12 years ago, it looks like they will be in the championship next year, one division from the premier league. Maybe not a pipe dream after all.

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Fleetwood Town were in the NWCFL approx 12 years ago, it looks like they will be in the championship next year, one division from the premier league. Maybe not a pipe dream after all.

Yes Gerry, that's what can happen and Fleetwood (you could say) are just a part of Blackpool and not in a city. But as I said it will never happen as those at the top don't want it and the putter-downers don't want it so we continue as we are.

Wonder what the population of Fleetwood is? If its a small place what the hell do they thing they are doing challenging for a place in the Championship. :)  and those other non-starters Leicester winning the Premier League last season !  Who do they think they are ! :D

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Gerry looked up the town of Fleetwood and its population.

Fleetwood is a town and civil parish within the Wyre district of Lancashire, England, lying at the northwest corner of the Fylde. It had a population of 25,939 people at the 2011 census.

Ards has roughly the same population with just a couple of thousand difference

Newtownards is the largest town in the former Borough of Ards. It is known colloquially by locals as "Ards". It had a population of 28,039 people in the 2011 census


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Gerry looked up the town of Fleetwood and its population.

Fleetwood is a town and civil parish within the Wyre district of Lancashire, England, lying at the northwest corner of the Fylde. It had a population of 25,939 people at the 2011 census.

Ards has roughly the same population with just a couple of thousand difference

Newtownards is the largest town in the former Borough of Ards. It is known colloquially by locals as "Ards". It had a population of 28,039 people in the 2011 census
..and its football team play their "home" games in Bangor.

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..and its football team play their "home" games in Bangor.


Yip that's right. Think their own ground was taken over and I don't know what it is now.

stickleback

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Gerry looked up the town of Fleetwood and its population.

Fleetwood is a town and civil parish within the Wyre district of Lancashire, England, lying at the northwest corner of the Fylde. It had a population of 25,939 people at the 2011 census.

Ards has roughly the same population with just a couple of thousand difference

Newtownards is the largest town in the former Borough of Ards. It is known colloquially by locals as "Ards". It had a population of 28,039 people in the 2011 census

Yip, that's right. Fleetwood Town are doing great. Then again, per head of popn Lancashire has by far the biggest footballing crowds in the UK. It's also kinda handy for Fleetwood Town that all their fans can get to every game on a bus.

Nevermind Rab, you seem to be so blindsided by the idea of having international stars playing in the local league that you have lost sight of the simple logistics. I don't blame you. It's a fanciful notion.

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