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simon03

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Re: Nathaniel Beattie Moscow Street
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2017, 11:04:11 AM »
Thanks for your help CMcG - I really appreciate it.  Would you have any ideas how I could try and find the burial place for Nathaniel Beattie died 1899.  I have tried the City and Carnmoney cemeteries.  I have other relatives born on the Shankill from this time that I can't find their graves either and was just wondering if there is somewhere else I should be looking.

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Re: Nathaniel Beattie Moscow Street
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2017, 11:08:03 AM »
I have been told that Nathaniel Beattie (Master Baker) met Martha Jane Ireland when he was leaving work and passed her house 7 Riga Street and she was standing at the door everyday and they got talking over time.  They married in 1903.  The Bakery I was told was down the side of the house and later became a Church. 

Would anyone know how I would find out the name of the Bakery?

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Re: Nathaniel Beattie Moscow Street
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2017, 11:29:30 AM »

I have been told that Nathaniel Beattie (Master Baker) met Martha Jane Ireland when he was leaving work and passed her house 7 Riga Street and she was standing at the door everyday and they got talking over time.  They married in 1903.  The Bakery I was told was down the side of the house and later became a Church. 

Would anyone know how I would find out the name of the Bakery?


From the 1901 Belfast Street directory for Riga Street on the Lennon Wylie website:

5. Gibson, Thos., flax dresser
7. Ireland, Mrs.
9, 11. Mercer, R., baker & flour merchant


http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/qrcomplete1901.htm

The National Archives 1901 / 1911 Censuses website seems to be down for me at the moment, worth having a look once it's back.

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Re: Nathaniel Beattie Moscow Street
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2017, 11:40:41 AM »
Mystery solved, Belfast Telegraph, 27 May 1902:



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Re: Nathaniel Beattie Moscow Street
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2017, 11:45:07 AM »
By 1924, that bit of Riga Street now looked as follows:

7. Ireland, Eliza
9. Trinity College Mission Hall
11. Jennings, Annie


http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/qrcomplete1924.htm

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Re: Nathaniel Beattie Moscow Street
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2017, 11:49:48 AM »

... Would you have any ideas how I could try and find the burial place for Nathaniel Beattie died 1899.  I have tried the City and Carnmoney cemeteries.  I have other relatives born on the Shankill from this time that I can't find their graves either and was just wondering if there is somewhere else I should be looking.


Not an area I would be strong in, but there may have been a 'family' grave for him, possibly outside of Belfast altogether, hopefully someone will find him or advise you where to search.

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« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2017, 08:15:35 PM »
CMcG - Thanks again. It's really good to know the name of the Bakery where my Great Grandfather worked!

Belle - It's lovely to find out more about our families and a bit of history about Belfast.

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Re: Nathaniel Beattie Moscow Street
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2017, 08:53:02 PM »
CMcG - Thanks again. It's really good to know the name of the Bakery where my Great Grandfather worked!

Belle - It's lovely to find out more about our families and a bit of history about Belfast.
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Re: Nathaniel Beattie Moscow Street
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2017, 09:04:10 PM »
 I cannot read the place of birth on the following 2 birth certificates:-

Martha Beattie (16 March 1870) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1870/03363/2233384.pdf

Margaret Jane Beattie (15 July 1891) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1881/02819/2034243.pdf

Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Nathaniel Beattie Moscow Street
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2017, 09:54:45 PM »
I cannot read the place of birth on the following 2 birth certificates:-

Martha Beattie (16 March 1870) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1870/03363/2233384.pdf

Margaret Jane Beattie (15 July 1891) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1881/02819/2034243.pdf

Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Nathaniel Beattie Moscow Street
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2017, 11:09:55 PM »
Timmo Thanks for the information!

The address of Bristol St then ties into an article I found in the Belfast Telegraph (11 July 1881) that mentions a Nathaniel Beattie living in Bristol Street that was Deputy Master in an Orange Order Lodge (Purple Star of Ulster L.O.L. 1894).  Does anyone know if the Orange Order keep records that would help with family history?

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Re: Nathaniel Beattie Moscow Street
« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2017, 09:38:29 AM »
Timmo Thanks for the information!

The address of Bristol St then ties into an article I found in the Belfast Telegraph (11 July 1881) that mentions a Nathaniel Beattie living in Bristol Street that was Deputy Master in an Orange Order Lodge (Purple Star of Ulster L.O.L. 1894).  Does anyone know if the Orange Order keep records that would help with family history?

Well to be honest I'm not a member. But I'd say there is a very strong chance they they would have something in that direction.

 Grand Orange Lodge of Ireland 
Schomberg House, 368 Cregagh Road, Belfast, BT6 9EY
T: +44 (0) 28 9070 1122   F: +44 (0)28 9040 3700  E: [email protected]

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Re: Nathaniel Beattie Moscow Street
« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2017, 11:56:03 AM »
Thanks again Timmo - I'll try looking into this.

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Re: Nathaniel Beattie Moscow Street
« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2021, 09:19:10 PM »
Hi Simon, I do believe this is my great great grandfather as well


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Re: Nathaniel Beattie Moscow Street
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2021, 03:33:49 PM »
Hi Simon, I do believe this is my great grandfather as well, Martha and Nathaniel where buried together in Carnmoney Graveyard. Along with there daughter Elizabeth. Nathaniel died 22/1/51 Martha died 3/11/52 and Elizabeth died 18/8/67