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Raystephenson

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Stephenson
« on: November 12, 2017, 03:33:36 PM »
Good day all and happy Sunday to all over the water.

I have recently started my family tree, (researching my STEPHENSON Ancestors).

The information regarding my grandfather born 28th October 1885 Belfast Co Antrim/Death 19th November 1968. Married to Agnes Jane Connor (No birth or death date. Marriage 10 April 1915 Parish Church, St Aidan's Belfast.

His father was George Crawford Stephenson No dates of birth or deaths, Married Matilda Jane Courtney 22 August 1883 in Belfast.
On the marriage certificate it states fathers as James Stephenson and Joseph Courtney.

Anyone with any information on solving this puzzle would be most appreciated.

Huge appreciation at this time.

Ray

sam barry

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Re: Stephenson
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2017, 04:57:00 PM »
Is this their Burial details ?

Occupants of grave U 355, Roselawn Cemetery
Forename   Surname   Age   Date of death   Date of burial   Cemetery    Details   
George   Stephenson   83   14 November 1968   16 November 1968   Roselawn Cemetery   
Agnes Ann   Stephenson   81 Yrs   10 December 1965   14 December 1965   Roselawn Cemetery   

Name of deceased   George Stephenson
Last place of residence   18 Thiepval Ave
Age   83
Sex   M
Date of death   14 November 1968
Date of burial   16 November 1968
Cemetery   Roselawn Cemetery
Grave section and number   U 355
Burial Type   Earth Burial

Name of deceased   Agnes Ann Stephenson
Last place of residence   18 Thiepval Ave
Age   81 Yrs
Sex   F
Date of death   10 December 1965
Date of burial   14 December 1965
Cemetery   Roselawn Cemetery
Grave section and number   U 355
Burial Type   Earth Burial


sam barry

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Re: Stephenson
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2017, 05:36:22 PM »

Occupants of grave K2 195, City Cemetery
Forename   Surname   Age   Date of death   Date of burial   Cemetery    Details   
Mary Eleanor   Rea   55 Years   7 February 1958   10 February 1958   City Cemetery
Leonard   Rea   48 Years   21 November 1948   23 November 1948   City Cemetery
Matilda   Stephenson   76 Years   10 August 1937   12 August 1937   City Cemetery   
George Crawford   Stephenson   59 Years   17 November 1919   20 November 1919   City Cemetery   

Name of deceased   George Crawford Stephenson
Last place of residence   44 Summer St
Age   59 Years
Sex   
Date of death   17 November 1919
Date of burial   20 November 1919
Cemetery   City Cemetery
Grave section and number   K2 195
Burial Type   Earth Burial

Name of deceased   Matilda Stephenson
Last place of residence   44 Summer Street
Age   76 Years
Sex   
Date of death   10 August 1937
Date of burial   12 August 1937
Cemetery   City Cemetery
Grave section and number   K2 195
Burial Type   Earth Burial


Raystephenson

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Re: Stephenson
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2017, 05:53:51 PM »
Sam this is amazing. All I now need to find is the parents of both George Crawford and Matilda.

Thanks so much for all your help.

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Re: Stephenson
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2017, 07:00:40 PM »
Some more for the Tree :
 First Name   Surname   Year   Father's First Name   County
Matilda Jane   Courtney   1860   Joseph   Antrim
Parish/District   Ballinderry
Address 1   Ballyscolly
Denomination   Church of Ireland
Date of Birth   01/04/1860
Date of Baptism/Registration   19/04/1860
Father's First Name   Joseph
Father's Surname   Courtney
Father's Occupation   labourer
Mother's First Name   Isabella
Mother's Surname   /

And could this be her parents Marriage ?
Record Type Civil Marriage ,Date of Marriage 10 Jul 1854
Groom Name Joseph COURTNEY
Bride Name Isabella GRAHAM
Church Lisburn Civil Registrars Office
Parish Blaris
Civil District Lisburn
County Antrim

Raystephenson

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Re: Stephenson
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2017, 09:39:32 PM »
This could be them, but nothing flashing up as hints to anything I am placing on the tree on Ancestry.

Thanks so much for finding this information and will keep it just in case.

I wonder who Is James Stephenson and where is he from?

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Re: Stephenson
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2017, 09:37:38 AM »

Some more for the Tree :
First Name   Surname   Year   Father's First Name   County
Matilda Jane   Courtney   1860   Joseph   Antrim
Parish/District   Ballinderry
Address 1   Ballyscolly
Denomination   Church of Ireland
Date of Birth   01/04/1860
Date of Baptism/Registration   19/04/1860
Father's First Name   Joseph
Father's Surname   Courtney
Father's Occupation   labourer
Mother's First Name   Isabella
Mother's Surname   /

And could this be her parents Marriage ?
Record Type Civil Marriage ,Date of Marriage 10 Jul 1854
Groom Name Joseph COURTNEY
Bride Name Isabella GRAHAM
Church Lisburn Civil Registrars Office
Parish Blaris
Civil District Lisburn
County Antrim


Right on the money for her forenames/surname combination, birth year, and father's name, even more so given that the 1911 census clearly stated her birthplace as Ballinderry:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001472921/


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Re: Stephenson
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2017, 10:02:46 AM »

Some more for the Tree :
 First Name   Surname   Year   Father's First Name   County
Matilda Jane   Courtney   1860   Joseph   Antrim
Parish/District   Ballinderry
Address 1   Ballyscolly
Denomination   Church of Ireland
Date of Birth   01/04/1860
Date of Baptism/Registration   19/04/1860
Father's First Name   Joseph
Father's Surname   Courtney
Father's Occupation   labourer
Mother's First Name   Isabella
Mother's Surname   /

And could this be her parents Marriage ?
Record Type Civil Marriage ,Date of Marriage 10 Jul 1854
Groom Name Joseph COURTNEY
Bride Name Isabella GRAHAM
Church Lisburn Civil Registrars Office
Parish Blaris
Civil District Lisburn
County Antrim


Joseph and Isabella's address recorded in their 1854 marriage was the townland of Magheragall, which is a mile away travelling east from Ballyscolly, so again very promising.


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Re: Stephenson
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2017, 02:10:31 PM »
Thanks so much this is a great help. I'll include to see what turns up


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Re: Stephenson
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2017, 09:59:08 AM »
Hi again,

Sad to say the wrong George Crawford Stephenson.

Thanks for all the help


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Re: Stephenson
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2017, 08:52:15 PM »
     you surprised me with the great help already received and with the use of the Scotland census 1901, i thought the family looked like this below
1.  James Stephenson
children
1.1.  George Crawford Stephenson b 1860  d 17 Nov 1919  No dates of birth or deaths, Married Matilda Jane Courtney b 1861 or 01/04/1860 if Ballyscolly and mother isabella  m 22 August 1883 in Belfast. d 10 August 1937 daughter of Joseph Courtney.  if m10 Jul 1854 lisburn
last place of residence 44 Summer St[/font][size=0pt][/size]
notes 1911 census 7 in Aughrim Street (St. George's, Antrim)
notes 1901 census Street    Cumberland Lane Parish     Govan  Gorbals District
George C Stephenson b 1862          Methodist       Belfast            Strapper in 1901 Foreman Sweeper in 1911       Read and write m Matilda J  Stephenson b1862 Methodist Ballinderry             Read and write         m 27 years ie1874   9 children born         6 living
6 children living in 1901
1.1.1.  Eliza Ann Stephenson b 1884 ireland sugar boiler 1901
1.1.2.  George C Stephenson b 1885 ireland points boy in 1901 born 28th October 1885 Belfast Co Antrim/Death 19th November 1968. Married to Agnes Jane[Anne] Connor (No birth or death date. Marriage 10 April 1915 Parish Church, St Aidan's Belfast
residences  18 Thiepval Ave[/font][size=0pt][/size]
1.1.3.  Joseph M Stephenson b 1886 ireland oven boy in 1901
1.1.4.  James C Stephenson b 1892  Methodist   Belfast            Sawyer's Laborer in 1901  Read and write          -Married 1910 Adelaide Stephenson Church of Ireland        Belfast            Spinner          Read and write child James C Stephenson Methodist      Belfast            -
1.1.5.  Thomas D Stephenson b 1899      Male    Son      Methodist       Belfast            Scholars
1.1.6.  Mary E E Stephenson b 1902 Methodist  Glasgow          Scholars in 1901 in 1911 if this Mary was later named Mary Eleanor who m Leonard   Rea   b 1900 d   21 November 1948   she and family buried with her parents
1.1.7.  Francis McKenna    b 1898 Adopted Son            Methodist       Glasgow          Scholars          Read and write
good luck anyway
 

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Re: Stephenson
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2017, 12:20:28 AM »
wow!! Sorry that is them, I just read it wrong.

I can not believe you have found all this out.

I hugely appreciate everything you have done.

Raystephenson

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Re: Stephenson
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2017, 08:50:16 AM »
Hey good morning guys. With all the names and doing both sides of the family, I got the names mixed up.

I do apologise!

what has thrown me out is, Agnes Jane Connor married to my Grandfather George Courtney Stephenson. Had a son (my father) Also named George Courtney Stephenson. Born 26th January 1926 Belfast-2004 Lincolnshire England.

Another family member said that George Crawford Stephenson, could be named George Gary Crawford Stephenson. 1837 same wife as George Crawford. Child to Samuel Stephenson and Jane Crawford. From or around YORK in England. Which as you can see, throws everything out. However as I now see it could be either George Crawford Or George Gary Crawford.

As I do not know or can say the Father could be any of the two, but the mother is Jane Crawford.

Can you see the confusion?

Any dates of birth, marriage or deaths would be very helpful at this time.

Can anyone help with the father please. respectively yours.

Ray Stephenson


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Re: Stephenson
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2017, 08:37:48 AM »
additonal notes
     random thoughts
1.1.2.  George Courtney Stephenson b 1885, his second name is proven by https://www.ancestryireland.com/family-records/birth-and-baptism-records-
 
1.  James Stephenson father of George b 1860 is named but has no location or background established yet. if he married a Crawford, the search would be over.

a James Stephenson that might fit could be living in Craven St in St. Ann's Ward Townparks in 1861 even though he is listed listed in Griffiths valuation, the street directory just gives CRAVEN STREET off Shankill Road eighteen small houses. in 1868 Craven st is listed with 15 houses inhabited but no  Stephenson listed but Craven Court is not listed .
 
in burials https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialSearch  one grave suggests is part of a family unit ie parents and child
Mr James Stephenson 47 Britannic Street b 1850 d 25 February 1897 City Cemetery
Mrs Mary Jane Stevenson 100 Donegall Avenue b 1844  d 21 June 1903 City Cemetery
Mr Thomas James Stevenson 70 Turin Street b~1874 d 18 May 1892 City Cemetery
Grave section and number N2 196
so could Mary Jane be a nee Mary Jane Crawford however I think its about 10 years wrong to fit James and the spelling Stevenson has crept in.[not unexpectedly] but not searched by me at all.
 
I think your familymember knows about this George Gary Stephenson below
www.ancestryireland.com  need to join or buy credits for details
has births
GEORGE GARY STEPHENSON 1837 father SAMUEL Antrim
GEORGE FREEMAN STEPHENSON 1840 father JOHN Antrim
GEORGE COURTNEY STEPHENSON 1885 father GEORGE CRAWFORD
has marriages
STEPHENSON GEORGE CRAWFORD married 1883  father JAMES Antrim
STEPHENSON GEORGE COURTNEY married 1915  father GEORGE Antrim
has deaths
STEPHENSON GEORGE CRAWFORD d 1919 Shankill Belfast City, Co. Antrim
STEPHENSON GEORGE HUBERT d 1921 Shankill Belfast City, Co. Antrim
 
a ‘Stephenson’ has a tree on Genes Reunited with two entries
George Courtney Stephenson 1963 ... No stephenson
George Courtney Stephenson 1924 ... No stephenson
 however cant help further without knowing parents or birthplace
you need to join for detail
 
worth investigating further is
United Kingdom, Chelsea Pensioners' Service Records
Name George C Stevenson
Event Type Pension
Event Year Range 1760-1913
Event Place United Kingdom
Birthplace Antrim
Birth Year (Estimated) 1837

1918 a George Stephenson is living in Ebrington Gardens
off Upper Newtownards RoadVictoria Ward, East Par. Div.
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/ecomplete1918.htm
thats as far as i can help
goodluck onwards
 

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Re: Stephenson
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2019, 11:07:22 AM »
My own Stevenson ancestors are all from Magheragall and Ballinderry. I wonder if there is a connection?