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Billy Fish

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Re: Belfast trial of two Rugby players for rape
« Reply #540 on: June 16, 2019, 12:22:04 PM »
Sadly this sort of descriptive talk / language is all too prevalent on social media and not only by rugby players.  ::)
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Re: Belfast trial of two Rugby players for rape
« Reply #541 on: June 16, 2019, 12:36:37 PM »
Sadly this sort of descriptive talk / language is all too prevalent on social media and not only by rugby players.  ::)
Never heard of this vile mysoginistic beastly term before in my life.


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Re: Belfast trial of two Rugby players for rape
« Reply #542 on: June 16, 2019, 09:03:51 PM »
Sadly this sort of descriptive talk / language is all too prevalent on social media and not only by rugby players.
They didn't post their misogynistic vulgar comments on social media, they exchanged them privately and boastfully among themselves,... and regardless of how common such comments might be on social media,... that's completely irrelevant to their personal exchange of their messages, and it doesn't excuse their conduct in that regard,... conduct which which Paddy Jackson has already, and belatedly, apologised for.

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Re: Belfast trial of two Rugby players for rape
« Reply #543 on: June 17, 2019, 03:40:21 AM »

"Jun 15, 2019"
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/uncomfortable-questions-raised-by-belfast-rape-trial-continue-to-resonate-1.3926101

"Uncomfortable questions raised by Belfast rape trial continue to resonate"

"Diageo decision to end London Irish sponsorship reignites controversy"

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"Outside of pockets of social media, the young woman in question remained anonymous."

"Because of that, it was easy to see her as your sister, your daughter, your friend."     "As you."

"As the nine-week trial deepened, it was impossible not to see the woman as a lone figure up against the apparatus of the legal system and up also against rugby culture and its perceived associations with privilege and entitlement."

"The details of the night in question were scrutinised in excruciating intimate detail."

"At one stage, her undergarment, bloodied, was passed around the public court room."

"In a legal sense, it was evidence."

"In a personal sense, the moment can only have been devastating."

"Out of the 823 rapes reported in Northern Ireland between 2016-2017, just 15 ended with guilty verdicts."

"None of those had anything like the public attention of this trial."

"By the end, the woman’s misgivings seemed well placed."

"The trial lasted nine weeks."

"Not guilty verdicts for all defendants were returned by the jury in just four hours."

"The verdict brought both vindication and outrage and the slogan #Ibelieveher."

"In the aftermath, the private messages exchanged between the four defendants provoked much outrage; they were derogatory in the extreme, belittling, contemptuous."

"What were intended as a private gleeful boast-fest of sexual prowess became, in the public domain, shockingly hurtful and misogynistic."

"They made the men in question look pathetic."

"Those messages raised a separate debate which was revived on BBC radio’s The Nolan Show on Friday morning."

"Were those messages, wondered the host, misguided bravado between the men which nobody was ever supposed to see or a genuine reflection of their attitudes to women. ?"

"Were they also, then, a reflection of how many young men spoke privately about women. ?"

"People called in to the show to agree, to disagree, to protest that women often spoke and behaved in derogatory ways towards men . . . and on and on."

"Immediately after the trial, one of the defendants, Stuart Olding, offered what appeared to be a genuine apology."

"Jackson decided against that."

"One of the new aspects of the case was that it was debated hugely on social media."

"Ironically, some of the people appalled by what Jackson was accused of and by the content of those private messages expressed their views towards him with words which were also troubling."

"Those outraged on Jackson’s behalf pointed out that he had been found guilty of nothing."

"He would probably never play for Ireland again, he has had his name vilified."

"He left to play rugby in France and gradually, the debate subsided – until now."

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Re: Belfast trial of two Rugby players for rape
« Reply #544 on: June 17, 2019, 10:32:34 AM »
Good post James .
Justice for all the innocent/ unarmed People who were
Gunned down by the British Soldiers,
For no other reason then their religion,were murdered.

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Re: Belfast trial of two Rugby players for rape
« Reply #545 on: June 29, 2019, 03:07:07 PM »
Never heard of this vile mysoginistic beastly term before in my life.

Really ?  :o
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Re: Belfast trial of two Rugby players for rape
« Reply #546 on: July 14, 2019, 07:22:52 PM »
"11/07/19"
https://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12550/11760838/most-london-irish-fans-support-paddy-jackson-signing-says-les-kiss

"Most London Irish fans support Paddy Jackson signing, says Les Kiss"

"London Irish head coach Les Kiss insists the majority of Exiles fans support the decision to sign Paddy Jackson."

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Re: Belfast trial of two Rugby players for rape
« Reply #547 on: July 15, 2019, 11:52:38 AM »
"11/07/19"
https://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12550/11760838/most-london-irish-fans-support-paddy-jackson-signing-says-les-kiss

"Most London Irish fans support Paddy Jackson signing, says Les Kiss"

"London Irish head coach Les Kiss insists the majority of Exiles fans support the decision to sign Paddy Jackson."

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