Author Topic: Obesity crisis means cranes used for plus-size coffins in Ulster cemeteries  (Read 1124 times)

James James

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"February 6th 2018"
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/obesity-crisis-means-cranes-used-for-plussize-coffins-in-northern-ireland-cemeteries-36571054.html

"An obesity epidemic in Northern Ireland means cranes are now being used in cemeteries and requests for plus-size coffins have become an everyday occurrence."

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Coffins which weigh more than 25 stone are now so common that Belfast City Council is regularly having to take precautions to protect workers at Roselawn Cemetery from injury.

However, Portadown funeral director Ian Milne said he is regularly dealing with bodies weighing between 30-45 stone, which not only need larger coffins, but also specialist vehicles if they are too heavy for a traditional hearse.

One local coffin maker said his firm receives requests for out-sized coffins on a daily basis - a difference he has seen rise dramatically over the last six years.

A survey by the Department of Health revealed last October that 27% of people in Northern Ireland are obese. A further 36% are overweight.

This evening, Belfast City Council's People and Communities committee will consider an update given to the Cemeteries and Crematoria Working Group over heavier coffins.

Where the weight of a coffin is over 25 stone, a small crane is hired to assist with the process of lowering it into the grave.

To protect cemetery staff and ensure the right resources are in place, funeral directors are now being asked to work with council workers to prepare for heavier coffins.

However, the issue is not restricted to Belfast, and Mr Milne said bigger coffins are now common.

"One of the biggest problems can be when we are repatriating people, and accommodating the size of larger coffins, and that can also make it more expensive for people," he said.

"Funeral directors are often dealing with people between 30-45 stone now.

"Sometimes you can't use a hearse - you have to use a Ford Galaxy because the coffins are too wide for the hearse."

One specialised coffin maker said the surge for different sizes has grown enormously over the last six years, and the shapes can vary from customer to customer.

"We would refer to larger coffins as 'out-sized' or 'specialist' - it can be a hard one to term," he said. "I took over the business six years ago and in those six years the growth has been phenomenal."

He added: "The out-sized coffins do tend to be more expensive than standard coffins as they are specialised."

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Well James James did they also reveal how much money they are making?
The costs of Funerals here are absolutely over the top-and one wonders just how `kosher`these boyos are!!!
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Doubtless they are making a substantial profit from those specialised coffins,... but they didn't invent the obesity crisis or the scale of it that necessitates the use of such coffins and cranes !,... and I believe that the use of cranes with specialised beds is now common in many UK hospitals because of the number and the weight of seriously obese patients,... and that hasn't just suddenly happened overnight.

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Good god. Sounds like something you would hear about across the pond.

James James

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Well people did used to make fun of Americans about their obesity and a decade or two ago in the UK seeing a seriously obese person would have been fairly rare, but today and in recent years it has become increasingly common and even obese children seem to be a frequent sight, and the rise in weight seems to have accompanied the rise in the number of fast food outlets. Somebody recently told me that in the London area it wasn't unusual to have to queue for over an hour in some of those places because they have so many customers at busy times,... but even without those, people are eating so much high fat high sugar food daily, I think that it's something like 30 or 40 % of the people in hospital in the NHS are there because of obesity related illnesses and it's the real main reason why the NHS is struggling to meet the demands on it.

I just had a quick look and the first result that came up was this one from December 2017. !
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/nov/10/uk-most-obese-country-in-western-europe-oecd-report-finds

Yet people are getting so alarmed about the number of domestic casualties caused by groups or individuals in connection with Muslim extremism. !

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low income groups too are among the these, diabetes is rising fast, lack of education regarding healthy food choices..i stopped drinking and smoking over 40 years ago, they were not easy to shed, changing our diet is one tough mother....many people are eating out now more than we ever did, which ethnic salt sugar and fat do you like the best?....we had fish and chip shops now they carry complete menus of fats sugars and salt...its everywhere.  i remember when i was younger newspapers carrying articles comparing farmers in ireland to their  brothers in the usa, the american brother was overweight the guy at home was leaner...all that has changed...i eat out rarely my own food is tastier and healthier than anything from a retaurant, many of these are supplied with chemical laden chips prepacked other stuff comes there as well.....we have choices it is not easy to change, change we must.
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I live in a small town in Vermont. There are two banks in town, both of which are staffed entirely by women. Every one of those women is obese, and I don't mean a bit. They are all very FAT.(There I used the 'F' word). These aren't uneducated trailer trash type people , they're smart and educated. I don't understand why they let themselves get this way. They're not blind.
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Well, perhaps this might be an easy means of reducing the obesity and diabetes epidemic everywhere, and curiously enough, my mother always insisted that this was the way that one should eat.

Researchers claim that it apparently works for the Japanese.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/feb/12/eating-slowly-may-help-prevent-obesity-say-researchers

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Well, perhaps this might be an easy means of reducing the obesity and diabetes epidemic everywhere, and curiously enough, my mother always insisted that this was the way that one should eat.

Researchers claim that it apparently works for the Japanese.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/feb/12/eating-slowly-may-help-prevent-obesity-say-researchers

It's very hard to eat fast with chopsticks so it is.
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Re: Obesity crisis means cranes used for plus-size coffins in Ulster cemeteries
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2018, 04:36:00 PM »
It's very hard to eat fast with chopsticks so it is.
It's very hard to eat with chopsticks full stop.
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Re: Obesity crisis means cranes used for plus-size coffins in Ulster cemeteries
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2018, 08:36:04 AM »
Take a look at the folk who leave central station on any work morning. They go to the nearest bus stop to get the bus into town when itís a 10 min walk. Equally, any trip to Tesco, Knocknagoney will give you an insight into waistline increases. I have had relatives notice the plumpness of the folk when visiting - I am not kidding. There is a crisis and itís only going to get worse...
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Re: Obesity crisis means cranes used for plus-size coffins in Ulster cemeteries
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2018, 10:43:07 AM »
Well let's get an expert local opinion,... this is Amy aka Green Leafy Gael,... and said this back in  April 1st 2016,... ironic date, but she isn't kidding,... and she's REALLY great,... and she should be in politics. BTW,... she does use some naughty words,... but she talks huge amounts of sense.
https://tinyurl.com/yamdafuj

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Re: Obesity crisis means cranes used for plus-size coffins in Ulster cemeteries
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2018, 04:30:22 PM »
I like Amy. She makes some really good points. Unfortunately I donít see it changing anytime soon...
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Re: Obesity crisis means cranes used for plus-size coffins in Ulster cemeteries
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2018, 06:19:47 PM »
Well let's get an expert local opinion,... this is Amy aka Green Leafy Gael,... and said this back in  April 1st 2016,... ironic date, but she isn't kidding,... and she's REALLY great,... and she should be in politics. BTW,... she does use some naughty words,... but she talks huge amounts of sense.
https://tinyurl.com/yamdafuj

I agree with Amy,People these days eat the most convenient foods which unfortunately is also the cheapest,have you ever tried to buy " organic " the price is rediculous,and most
households can't afford it,just to use Ireland as an example,up to 30yrs ago approx, most Irish Families ate fast food about once a Week, usually Fish n Chips ( or other food from the chippie) now everywhere it's American fast food stores,KFC ( not fit for humen consumption ) McDonalds ( same ) Burger King ( same ) and the list goes on,
Even the food you buy from the Grocery stores are not the same as before,they are full of additives  not to mention sodium ( salt ) flavour enhancements,colour dyes, sugar ( in any form )
and again,the list goes on, I also believe a lot of those additives are addictive ( not by accident either )
I agree Ireland is heading to an overweight crisis, now some will argue,some People suffer with under active thyroid ( which can and does lead to gaining weight ) but I also believe it's the food today that is causing their thyroid to malfunction,yes you can get medication for this but,it will never be the same again,
Okay rent over but this has been my pet peeve for a long time,and I don't see it getting any better  >:D

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