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big t

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Re: Are you just starting Family History research?
« Reply #360 on: July 21, 2017, 10:30:47 PM »
Thanks again CMCG
CAN you please advise me if this is a free site as I didn't know about it.
Can you also get marriages through this site.
Also can you please advise if you have only say your grandmother how can you you find her brother's and sisters if any.

A lot of questions but as I have said. I basically am self taught and have a lot of things to learn but don't know what and who to ask...

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Re: Are you just starting Family History research?
« Reply #361 on: July 22, 2017, 07:23:01 AM »

Thanks again CMCG
CAN you please advise me if this is a free site as I didn't know about it.
Can you also get marriages through this site.
Also can you please advise if you have only say your grandmother how can you you find her brother's and sisters if any.

A lot of questions but as I have said. I basically am self taught and have a lot of things to learn but don't know what and who to ask...


Yes, it is a free website operated by the Irish Government, it is the home to the historic records of Births, Marriages and Deaths of their General Register Office, here is a topic with more information about it about it:
http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,66646.0.html

The link I posted was for Lucinda Henderson's civil birth registration in 1887, here is a link to the website's homepage:
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

When you first go to look at civil registration records, you will be asked to:-

1. complete one or more 'captchas', which are security features to protect the website by seeking to establish that you are a human being and not a computer - it will be obvious to you how to complete the captcha(s).

2. give your name and tick a box to say that you will comply with the Irish legislation governing access to the Births, Marriages and Deaths.

If you are stuck at any particular point in your family tree, I would recommend starting a new topic with your query in the genealogy section of this forum, giving relevant details like names and (even approximate) dates/years.

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Re: Are you just starting Family History research?
« Reply #362 on: July 23, 2017, 09:24:46 PM »
CMCG
Querying Spence
I was born 1946 and you indicated that Robert Spence died 1958. However I have visited my grandmother
During this time and don't ever remember any male in the house.
Is it possible that they separated or divorced?


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Re: Are you just starting Family History research?
« Reply #363 on: July 24, 2017, 08:18:17 AM »

CMCG
Querying Spence
I was born 1946 and you indicated that Robert Spence died 1958. However I have visited my grandmother
During this time and don't ever remember any male in the house.
Is it possible that they separated or divorced?


I don't know, maybe they were separated, but it's a fact that the last place of residence in the record of the 1958 burial of 59 year old Robert George Spence was 5 Malcolm Lane.

Given that the 1951 street directory for 5 Malcolm Lane showed the occupier as R. Spence and  the 1960 directory showed it had changed to Martha Spence, it's not unreasonable to surmise that this was Martha's second husband.  The only additional information I have from another source of the burial record is that Robert was married and was a joiner by trade.

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Re: Are you just starting Family History research?
« Reply #364 on: July 25, 2017, 09:02:39 AM »
I know my uncle aunt and father where named millar but there are two younger aunts.
1 how can I find children to robert millar
2 if any children to robert spence also date of marriage.
3 I know my grandmother is buried in movilla cemetery in newtownards how can I find out details.?

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Re: Are you just starting Family History research?
« Reply #365 on: July 25, 2017, 03:59:37 PM »
do you know their names and approx year of Marriage's etc ?, bearing in mind that Marriages under 75 yrs, and births under 100 yrs will not be on line.

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Re: Are you just starting Family History research?
« Reply #366 on: July 26, 2017, 01:35:48 PM »
Right really am getting fustrated I was looking at mormon family history site and states no record found.

 >:D >:D >:D

Alexander lindsay Millar born 1923.
I dont have exect date to hand.

Parents where Robert Millar and Martha Millar nee Lindsay
Born as far as I know in belfast co down.

Question is why cant I find him Ún this site or is there anotber free site to get imformation also trying to get births of all siblings.
If someone does find on mormon site can you explain what I have done wrong plse?

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Re: Are you just starting Family History research?
« Reply #367 on: July 26, 2017, 05:58:50 PM »
Births in Northern Ireland within the past 100 years are not on-line. You can only look them up in PRONI or GRONI, in Belfast or get GRONI to do it for you. (There might be a search feee for that).
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« Reply #368 on: July 26, 2017, 06:17:08 PM »
Is this their Marriage ?
Record Type
Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 11 Apr 1914
Groom Name Robert MILLER
Bride Name Martha LINDSAY
Church Saint Annes Church of Ireland
Parish Shankill
Civil District
Belfast
County Antrim

Are these sons ?
U/1914/58/1007/55/342   Thomas   Miller   15th August 1914   Male   Lindsay   Belfast
U/1917/57/1007/107/124   Cyril   Miller             7th May 1917           Male Lindsay   Belfast

as previously stated on an earlier post,you would need to purchase credits at: https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk

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Re: Are you just starting Family History research?
« Reply #369 on: July 29, 2017, 10:52:15 PM »
This was details recd from family history site.

Uncle was called Thomas but dont know dob.

My Aunt Cassie poss Catherine not sure if she or my uncle was the eldest.

I have never heard of a Cyril but he possibly could have died. This is why I am not sure if this is correct or if they are two different familys having the same names.

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Re: Are you just starting Family History research?
« Reply #370 on: July 30, 2017, 11:47:08 AM »
Cyril's Death:
D/1918/57/1007/60/73   Cyril   Miller   11th April 1918   0      Male   Belfast

You can view the full death certificate on line at: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie
it states his father was David Miller, and his brother Henry was present at death. the address was 55 Dunvegan St.

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Re: Are you just starting Family History research?
« Reply #371 on: July 30, 2017, 12:44:13 PM »

Cyril's Death:
D/1918/57/1007/60/73   Cyril   Miller   11th April 1918   0      Male   Belfast

You can view the full death certificate on line at: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie
it states his father was David Miller, and his brother Henry was present at death. the address was 55 Dunvegan St.


Cyril was buried here, 4 other grave occupants:
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialSearch.aspx?GraveSection=F5&GraveNumber=541&CemeteryName=Dundonald%20Cemetery

From this, a possibility for parents were David Millar and Ellen Lindsay who married in 1892:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1892/10620/5869320.pdf

So a different family.

But Thomas Miller b. 15 August 1914 looks sound, parents given as Robert Miller and Martha Lindsay of 176 Templemore Street:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01405/1577965.pdf
   

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Re: Are you just starting Family History research?
« Reply #372 on: July 30, 2017, 01:17:51 PM »

... But Thomas Miller b. 15 August 1914 looks sound, parents given as Robert Miller and Martha Lindsay of 176 Templemore Street:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01405/1577965.pdf
 

I can also see a transcribed civil birth record for a son Robert Miller born on 21 September 1919 to parents Robert Miller and Martha Lindsay, same address as the 1914 birth of Thomas (176 Templemore Street), same informant (Elizabeth McFarland of Frank Street), unfortunately, a footnote says 'dead'.  Here is his death registration:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1919/05139/4415902.pdf

He was buried in the City Cemetery:
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=7979.36148

The Belfast street directories on the Lennon Wylie website show these entries for Templemore Street:

1901: 176. Lindsay, A., brick layer
1910: 176. Lindsay, A.
1918: 176. Lindsay, A.
1924: 176. Lindsay, A.
1932: 176. Lindsay, A.
1943: 176. Lindsay, Elizabeth
1951: 176. Lindsay, Mrs. Elizabeth
1960: 176. Lindsay, Mrs. Elizabeth

That reads across to these folk in 1901 and 1911:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Pottinger/Templemore_Street/1262706/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Pottinger__part_of_/Templemore_Street/223413/

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Re: Are you just starting Family History research?
« Reply #373 on: August 04, 2017, 08:42:09 AM »
Thanks cmcg for that imformation hoping that is my great grandparents.

Do you know if there are any tecords on line for Movilla Cementry in Newtownards?

As far as I can remember my grandmother is buried there.

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Re: Are you just starting Family History research?
« Reply #374 on: August 04, 2017, 10:50:33 AM »
I'm not aware of any comprehensive database on Movilla Cemetery.

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