Author Topic: HANNA of Belfast  (Read 543 times)

Rachill

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HANNA of Belfast
« on: March 25, 2018, 03:30:19 AM »
Hi[/size]I'm trying to locate the parents of these two men (may or may not be related).  Both born in Belfast & both immigrated to New Zealand;
Robert Hayes HANNA b.7 Jun 1844 m.10 Mar 1850, Christchurch, NZ to Alice RICKARD (23 Mar 1580-20 Dec 1911) d.20 Jan 1904 - Storekeeper in Rangiora.William HANNA b.1853 m. 1891, Belfast to Jane Pearson SCOTT (1864-25 Sep 1954) d.19 Nov 1937, Cambridge, NZ - Farmer.


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Elwyn

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Re: HANNA of Belfast
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2018, 11:27:25 PM »
     William who married in 1891 had a father named William. Both were farmers and Wm juniorís townland was Carnaglis (Carnaghliss). Irish marriage certs donít contain motherís names.
 
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1891/10666/5886713.pdf
 
However the 1901 census suggests Williamís mother was named Mary.
 
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Dundesert/Carnaghliss/917384/
 
 
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Rachill

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Re: HANNA of Belfast
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2018, 03:52:08 AM »
Thank you Elwyn  ::) ::)

JimG

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Re: HANNA of Belfast
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2018, 04:20:43 PM »
Hi Rachill , Elwyn's reply caught my attention If you have more information please tell us[/font][/color]  [after posting my apologies for these Mac eccentricities]
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Both born in Belfast.  How do you know? [/font][/color]
both immigrated to New Zealand when?[/color][/color]
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a Robert using findmypast migration has[/color]
HannaRobert H b1848 travel 1903 Victoria Inward Passenger Lists 1839-1923       [/font][/color]
HannaRobert b 1889 travel 1925Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960     Wellington, New Zealand[/font][/color]
HannaR H b 1843 travel1902 Victoria Coastal Passenger Lists 1852-1924    Victoria, Australia[/font][/color]
a William using findmypast migration has[/color]
HannaW H     ó        ó        1911   Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960     Wellington, New Zealand it would be interesting if that h was also a Hayes[/font][/color]
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more questions on Robert[/font][/color]
Robert Hayes HANNA b.7 Jun 1844 m.10 Mar 1850, Christchurch, NZ to Alice RICKARD (23 Mar 1580-20 Dec 1911) d.20 Jan 1904 - Storekeeper in Rangiora.[/font][/color]
questionsRobert m aged 6? Alice b 1580?[/color][/font][/color]
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more questions on William the father[/font][/color]
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William Hanna farmer m Mary? Mary see her possible residence 1911 certainly looks like the family as a widow 15 in Carnaghliss (Dundesert, Antrim) ie Killead [/color][/color] civil parish but I couldnít trace her maiden name[/font][/font]children[/font][/color]
William HANNA b.1853 d.19 Nov 1937, Cambridge, NZ - Farmer.[/color][/color]
m. 1891, Belfast Father should be on marriage record if the marriage took place or was registered at Lisburn Co Antrim[/font][/color]
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to Jane Pearson SCOTT (1864-25 Sep 1954)  I didnít understand 1954d.19 Nov 1937, Cambridge, NZ - Farmer.  The only birth I found was in 1864 Londonderry for a Jane Scott[/color][/size][/font][/color]
Wm juniorís townland was Carnaglis (Carnaghliss). [/color][/color]
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1862 Griffiths valuation[/color]1860ís Griffiths Valuation of Ireland using the quick index of http://www.failteromhat.com/post1845.phpshows a William Hanna map ref 26 in Carnaghliss Killead  civil parish  switching to the detailed version  http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/ it dates the description as 1862 with 83 acres and a house valued £8pa thatís a good sized farm in those days but the quality of the land is more grazing Diary farming etc.  it looks like the house currently 42 Ballyhill Rd, Crumlin BT29 4TP look up Google maps and satellite view[/font][/color]
itsbetween the junctions of  CarnaghlissRoad.and Carn road. It has continuation valuation at PRONI, which might tell when they left[/font][/color]
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1823-1837 Tithes Applotment Booksbased upon the index work of the Irish Genealogy Hubís listing for each parish in Northern Ireland, [/font][/color]
The relevant original books are in the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland (PRONI) Belfast itís a simple one line entry I found two of interest[/font][/color]
Hanna, William-Townland: Carnaghlis Year: 1827-Killead-Antrim[/font][/color]
Hanna, Robert-Townland: Upper Ballyhill Year: 1827-Killead-Antrim[/font][/color]
Hanna, Robert-Townland: Ballynadrintagh Year: 1827-Killead-Antrim[/font][/color]
Hanna, Thomas-Townland: Ballynadrintagh Year: 1827-Killead-Antrim[/font][/color]
Hanna, William-Townland: Ballynadrintagh Year: 1827-Killead-Antrim[/font][/color]
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1660ís Hearth Money Rolls much earlier here are 3 Hanna in the same parish see http://www.billmacafee.com[/font][/color]
the column titles are[/font][/color]
Record No.      No. in Barony List      County            Barony            ParishTownland (Modern Spelling)          Townland as spelt in Hearth Money Rolls    Forename as spelt in Hearth Money Rolls  Surname as spelt in Hearth Money Rolls   Surname [Standardised][/font][/color]
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17037            649     Antrim            Massereene Lower    Killead            Killealy           Killaley           Thos   Hanna            Hanna[/font][/color]
17155            767     Antrim            Massereene Lower    Killead            StraidhavernStrathaven     Allex   Hanna            Hanna[/font][/color]
17182            794     Antrim            Massereene Lower    Killead            Tully   The Tully        Widow Hanna Hanna [/font][/color]
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hoping you get more on Robert and good luck onwards[/font][/color]