Author Topic: Kells Family from Castlereagh Road Belfast (Read 461 times)

Seasons · « **on:** November 24, 2018, 07:29:43 PM »

I am looking for the Kells Family from 120 Castlereagh Road Belfast in the 1911 Census - they were a very large family and worked hard in the community. James Kells was Head of the Family! Mary Kells was His wife! I am looking for Annie Kells she was a Nurse and Married Kerr! they were Methodist who possibly went to Mountpottinger but not totally sure about that one... Any Help would be much appreciated.

JimG · « **Reply #1 on:** November 25, 2018, 10:43:51 PM »

so you are looking for information on the 3rd child of the 10 surviving in 1901 Census
Kells Annie b~1880-1 21 Female Daughter Methodist b Whiteabbey, Co Antrim a Linen Weaver in 1901 Read and write - Not Married -
[an Annie Kells m in Co.Down 1920 but her father was a Robert]
is this her from street directory see www.lennonwylie.co.uk

1943
Cregagh Road
Continuation of Woodstock Road to Knockbreda Road
25. Kells, Annie, S.C.M.

teap · « **Reply #2 on:** November 26, 2018, 01:38:44 PM »

Jim The Annie Kells marriage in 1920 was in Dundonald to James McNally. Annie was a widow her father was Robert Millar.

Colette

teap · « **Reply #3 on:** November 26, 2018, 01:46:53 PM »

Jim I've checked out for Annie's marriage to a Kells.. Turns out she was married to John Kells son of a James Kells 110 Castlereagh Road in 16th July 1913 Annie was 21 John was 26. one of the witnesses was Elizabeth Ann Kells

Colette.

teap · « **Reply #4 on:** November 26, 2018, 01:55:26 PM »

Mary Kells widow of James Kells died 28th Janurary 1914 aged 55 from angina at 110 Castlereagh Road death registered iby her son Robert.

Her husband James Kells died 12th December 1905 aged 61 at 120 Castlereagh Road (note the other addresses I posted above were 110) son Robert also registered this death

JimG · « **Reply #5 on:** November 26, 2018, 10:36:38 PM »

Hi Teap and Seasons, I don’t know what to make of Teaps important marriage find for 1913 .
Adding in your information to census produced family history
the family draft tree looks like
James Kells 52 ~1849-50 died 12th December 1905 aged 61 at 120 Castlereagh Road (note the other addresses Colette posted above were 110) son Robert also registered this death
Head of Family Methodist Co Monaghan Council Sweeper c1901 married
Mary Kells 46 ~1855-6 Wife Methodist Glenooy, Co antrim Housekeeper c1901 c1911 Widow She died 28th Janurary 1914 aged 55 from angina at 110 Castlereagh Road death registered by her son Robert.

children in 1901 quantity of children question not in use however 1911 states as 11 born, 10 living. I couldn’t find the 11th. Yet 10 existed in 1901.
1. Mary Kells 24 ~1877-8 Daughter Methodist Belfast Linen Weaver c1901 Linen Weaver c1911 single
2. Lettie Kells 23 ~1878-9 Letitia Jane Daughter Methodist Whiteabbey, Co Antrim Linen Weaver c1901 Linen Weaver c1911 single
3. Annie Kells 21 ~1880-1 aka Elizabeth Ann Kells or another daughter perhaps a year older Daughter Methodist Whiteabbey, Co Antrim Linen Weaver c1901 in the 1911census it is Elizabeth Ann Kells Linen Weaver c1911 single to be a witness to her sister Annie she has to be a different person So my numbering is wrong below
4. James W Kells 19 ~1882-3 Son Methodist Whiteabbey, Co Antrim Apprentice Lithographer c1901
5. Robert Kells 18 ~1883-4 Son Methodist Cultra, Co Down Apprentice Druggist c1901
6. Joseph Kells 15 ~1886-7 Son Methodist Belfast Lithographer Feeder c1901
7. John Kells 13 ~1888-7 Son Methodist Belfast Scholar c1901 Colour Mixer c1911 single
8. Richard Kells 11 ~1890-1 ~1890-1 Son Methodist Belfast Scholar c1901 Artist c1911 single
9. David Kells 9 ~1892-3 ~1892-3 Son Methodist Belfast Scholar c1901 Clerk (Linen Mts) c1911 single
10. Edith Kells 5 ~1896-7 ~1896-7 Daughter Methodist Belfast Scholar c1901 Linen Weaver c1911 single
in 1911 all c1901
Weslyan c1901
methodists c1901

relatives in house 1901 only
John Yarr 42 ~1859-60 Brother in Law Methodist Ballinderry, Co Antrim Platers Helper c1901 Married
John Yarr 10 ~1891-2 Nephew Methodist Barrow, England Scholar c1901
Robert Yarr 9 ~1892-3 Nephew Methodist Barrow, England Scholar c1901

Regarding property numbers used in census
Address Apr-Mar 1901 120 in Castlereagh Road (Pottinger, Down) in 1911 39 in Castlereagh Road (Pottinger (part of), Down)

Regarding house numbers in Street directories in Castlereagh Road source [size=78%]lennonwylie[/size]
1901 no Kells atall lennonwylie
1908 120. Kells, Mrs.
1910 110. Kells, Mrs. Mary
1912 110. Kells, Mrs. Mary

I suppose looking up valuation continuation books at PRONI might settle Street numbers or valuation numbers used on one occasion not on both census

So lastly is 'John Kells son of a James Kells 110 Castlereagh Road ' who does appear to be child no7 above. so surely some record is wrong or should i be tucked up in bed?
help needed JimG

teap · « **Reply #6 on:** November 27, 2018, 03:29:37 PM »

There's a birth for
William Kells 9th Nov 1893 59 Beersbridge road father James Kells a labourer, mother Mary Yarr. that would fit in with the Yarr visitors in the 1901 Census must be the wife's brother.

Death of William Kells 8th June 1895 from measles aged 2 and a half years, child of James Kells 59 Beersbridge road.

Colette

teap · « **Reply #7 on:** November 27, 2018, 03:44:00 PM »

Marriage of James Kells a servant and Mary Yarr on the 4th Dec 1875 at Moyallen Methodist church Frederick street Belfast. His father was James Kells hers was John Yarr both deceased.
His address was Newington Belfast
Hers was Willowbank Belfast

witnesses were William and Eliza McCluskey.

Colette

JimG · « **Reply #8 on:** November 27, 2018, 03:53:31 PM »

Teap did James Kells have a brother John a carter in census below, could the right Annie
and the right John be muddled and are first cousins.

I tried the valuation books ie https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/information-and-services/search-archives-online/valuation-revision-books
but I only found the odd numbers which are on the south side of the road and gave up

a Annie Kells and a John Kells their joint burial notices are listed see http://www.belfastcity.gov.uk/community/burialrecords/burialrecords.aspx
both ages are about 10 years wrong, could it be them or another of my wrong speculations/red herrings
John Kells age 76 so [ b~1897] d 16 Dec 1973 bur Belfast City Cemetery - Glenalina Extension Last address 195 Argyle street
Annie Kells age 65 so [b~1903] [ d 24 Dec 1968 bur Belfast City Cemetery - Glenalina Extension. Last address 195 Argyle street
they are bur with a Joseph Kells age 65 [so b~1940] d 16th Aug 2005 bur Belfast City Cemetery - Glenalina Extension. Last address Glencairn Care Centre Glencairn Rd Belfast 2634 BT13 3PU

checking backwards on street directories from http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk
1912 195. Argyle St Kells, John, carter (Kelly, John, carter in 1910)
1924 195 Argyle St Kellis, John, operator (Kells, John, carter in 1918)
1932 195 Argyle St Kells, John, operator
1943 195 Argyle St Kells, John, operator

so 1911 census http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Wood_Vale_Ward/Argyle_Street__Belfast_Urban_No__5_/293495/shows his family as
195 in Argyle Street (Belfast Urban No. 5) (Wood Vale Ward, Antrim)
Kells John 52 [so b~1859-60 Male Head of Family Church of Ireland Co Antrim Carter Unemployed Read and write - Married - -
Kells Sophia 52 Female Wife Church of Ireland Co Donegal - Read &write - Married - 29 9 7
children
Kells Samuel 20 Male Son Church of Ireland Belfast City Butcher Read and write - Single - - - Kells Kathleen 18 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Belfast City Flax Doffer in Mill Read and write - Single - - - -
Kells John 13 Male Son Church of Ireland Belfast City Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -

so 1901 census which also shows the same family another Annie Kells!http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Woodvale_Ward/Wilton_Street__part_of_/1008296/
176 in Wilton Street (part of) (Woodvale Ward, Antrim)
Kells John 42 Male Head of Family Church of Ireland Belfast Carter Read and write English Married -
Kells Sophia 44 Female Wife Church of Ireland B Turbet Spinner in Linen Mill Read and write English Married -
children
Kells Annie 17 so b~1884 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Belfast Spinner in Linen Mill Read and write English Not Married -
Kells William 16 Male Son Church of Ireland Belfast Striker in Iron Foundry Read and write English Not Married -
Kells Samuel 10 Male Son Church of Ireland Belfast Shhoolar School English
Kells Kathleen 8 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Belfast School School English Kells George 6 Male Son Church of Ireland Belfast School School English
Kells John 3 Male Son Church of Ireland Belfast - - English
Kells Rebecca 1 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Belfast - - English
I don’t know yet, but the answer must be starring me in the face.

Seasons · « **Reply #9 on:** November 27, 2018, 09:28:06 PM »

Hi Teap and JimG I sent you both direct Messages to your inbox! let me know if you got them okay? I'm new to the Forum so just managing to manover my way around the site. Let me know what you both think? Really appreciate your very detailed research here

Seasons

JimG · « **Reply #10 on:** November 27, 2018, 10:20:28 PM »

nearly my last effort
Seasons thanks for your message, this explains in case Annie kept her maiden name or didn’t marry until late in life anyway for Nursing going back to my previous note
SCM stands for State Certified Midwife
1943 Cregagh Road Continuation of Woodstock Road to Knockbreda Road
25. Kells, Annie, S.C.M.

Seasons you thought she married a Kerr, could it have been Kells? I looked through about 20 Annie Kerr’s whose burial records at https://dof.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/burialSearch.aspx without success , have you looked at them?

going back to Colettes marriage I have added in birth years
“Annie's marriage to a Kells.. Turns out she was married to John Kells son of a James Kells 110 Castlereagh Road in 16th July 1913 Annie was 21 [so b~1892] John was 26 [so born ~1887. one of the witnesses was Elizabeth Ann Kells

I thought I would continue to link up one other Kells in case they fall into placeusing http://streetdirectories.proni.gov.uk/
Kells, J a coachman in 1895 at 59 Beersbridge road
Kells, J a saddler in 1895 at 19 little Patrick Street
Kells, J a coachman in 1897 at 59 Beersbridge road
Kells, J a saddler in 1897 at 19 little Patrick Street
Kells, J a saddler in 1900 at 19 little Patrick Street

in 1901 census
78 in York Street (St. Anne's Ward, Antrim)
Kells John 32 Male Head of Family Presbyterrian Co Antrim Saddler Read and write - Married -
Kells Elizabeth 32 Female Wife Presbyterrian Belfast City - Read and write - Married
children
Kells Robert 1 Male Son Presbyterrian Belfast City - - - Not Married -
I will see if I can find anything relevant and be back if I do keep going
JimG

teap · « **Reply #11 on:** November 27, 2018, 11:18:29 PM »

Quote from: Seasons on November 27, 2018, 09:28:06 PM

Hi Teap and JimG I sent you both direct Messages to your inbox! let me know if you got them okay? I'm new to the Forum so just managing to manover my way around the site. Let me know what you both think? Really appreciate your very detailed research here Seasons

I can't find your private message 😔

Seasons · « **Reply #12 on:** November 28, 2018, 11:08:04 AM »

Hi JimG..

Yes! Annie Kells Married later on in life and I believe she would maybe have kept her own name.. A good point.

She did Marry a Kerr - this is stated in the PRONI records which I hold a copy of. I did check the burial records as well and had no success at all, thats why I found the forum and decided to engage here to try and get some help with this one, however, Colettes find for a Annie Kells and James Kells 110 Castlereagh road is certainly with investigating - Good find Collette.

. Thanks Guys your research here is much appreciated..

chevron · « **Reply #13 on:** December 09, 2018, 05:50:56 PM »

reading with interest your Kells family. the following might help. My mother was born Margaret Rebecca Kells. Here is her family.John Kells b1859.d.30/03/1921.Married Sophia Corrigan 28/02/1881 St.Johns Ch.Lagan Bank.Belfast.
Sophia d.11/05/1924. Following Children.
Anne Kells b.15/09/1883 d 11/05/1940 Belfast. Anne Married John Majurey,18/03/1907 Albert Hall Presbyterian Ch.
one daughter Mary b.05/12/1917.Belfast.
William Kells b23/02/1885 d.17/02/1945.Married Margaret McNally /Shields.

Kathleen Kells.b.12/09/1892.d.16/04/1988.New Plymouth.N.Z. Married John Harold Jones b.1895.d.22/12/1958 N.Z.
George Kells b.03/03/1894 d.?? Married Mary Doole b.?? d.??
Fredrick Kells b16/01/1896 d.16/02/1973//may not belong here as he died in 195 Argyle St.
Rebecca Kells b 26/08/1899 d.?? SAME AS above*

My Mothers Family.
Wm.Kells b.23/02/1885 d.17/02/1945.Married Margaret McNally/Shields 06/02/1910.Trinity C of I
Margaret b.01/04/1888 d.20/08/1966. both buried in Dundonald Cem.
CHILDREN.
Harold Victor Shields .b.1906 d.23/06/1977 Married Sarah McDowell.McHaffie 11/04/1936 Crumlin Rd.Meth.Ch.
Margaret Rebecca Kells my Mother.b.21/04/1910.d.12/06/2003 Married Wm.McClure 28/06/1935
Mary Sophia Kells b.24/02/1912.d.24/02/2004.Married James Burrell 20/02/1935 Crumlin Rd.Meth.Ch.
Elsie Kells b.10/01/1914.d.20/02/2016.Married James McCutchen 26/12/1936 Crumlin Rd.Meth.Ch.
William Kells b.Jan 1919.d.18/02/2000 Married Emile

David Kells b.10/11/1922 d.11/11/2006 Married Mary Currey ??
James Kells b.1925. still living
Nora Kells b10/06/1929 still living.
I think there is a connection with your Kells and mine but I have not researched the ones in Co.Down.
There was another Kells family living in Canberra St.Crumlin Rd.but was told not part of my Kells.
Hope this helps or muddle more waters.

Seasons · « **Reply #14 on:** December 10, 2018, 09:01:53 PM »

Good Evening Chevron.

I've just started to go further into the Kells Family - this would be amazing if there was a connection as I'm looking to try and find any living relatives to try and find Records leading to a Mother and Baby home that was overseen by the Kells family situated 110/112 Castlereagh Road.

The family I'm looking for as JimG mentioned in his first reply are.

[size=0px][size=0px]children in 1901 quantity of children question not in use however 1911 states as 11 born, 10 living. I couldn’t find the 11th. Yet 10 existed in 1901.[/size][size=0px][size=0px]1. Mary Kells [/size][size=0px]24 ~1877-8 Daughter Methodist Belfast Linen Weaver c1901 Linen Weaver c1911 single[/size][size=0px][size=0px]2. Lettie Kells [/size][size=0px]23 ~1878-9 Letitia Jane Daughter Methodist Whiteabbey, Co Antrim Linen Weaver c1901 Linen Weaver c1911 single[/size][size=0px][size=0px]3. Annie Kells [/size][size=0px]21 ~1880-1 aka Elizabeth Ann Kells or another daughter perhaps a year older Daughter Methodist Whiteabbey, Co Antrim Linen Weaver c1901 in the 1911census it is Elizabeth Ann Kells Linen Weaver c1911 single to be a witness to her sister Annie she has to be a different person So my numbering is wrong below[/size][size=0px][size=0px]4. James W Kells [/size][size=0px]19 ~1882-3 Son Methodist Whiteabbey, Co Antrim Apprentice Lithographer c1901 [/size][size=0px][size=0px]5. Robert Kells [/size][size=0px]18 ~1883-4 Son Methodist Cultra, Co Down Apprentice Druggist c1901 [/size][size=0px][size=0px]6. Joseph Kells [/size][size=0px]15 ~1886-7 Son Methodist Belfast Lithographer Feeder c1901 [/size][size=0px][size=0px]7. John Kells[/size][size=0px] 13 ~1888-7 Son Methodist Belfast Scholar c1901 Colour Mixer c1911 single[/size][size=0px][size=0px]8. Richard Kells[/size][size=0px] 11 ~1890-1 ~1890-1 Son Methodist Belfast Scholar c1901 Artist c1911 single[/size][size=0px][size=0px]9. David Kells[/size][size=0px] 9 ~1892-3 ~1892-3 Son Methodist Belfast Scholar c1901 Clerk (Linen Mts) c1911 single[/size][size=0px][size=0px]10. Edith Kells [/size][size=0px]5 ~1896-7 ~1896-7 Daughter Methodist Belfast Scholar c1901 Linen Weaver c1911 single[/size][size=0px][size=0px] in 1911 all c1901 [/size][size=0px][size=0px] Weslyan c1901 [/size][size=0px][size=0px] methodists c1901 [/size][size=0px][size=0px][size=0px]relatives in house 1901 only[/size][size=0px][size=0px]John Yarr 42 ~1859-60 Brother in Law Methodist Ballinderry, Co Antrim Platers Helper c1901 Married[/size][size=0px][size=0px]John Yarr 10 ~1891-2 Nephew Methodist Barrow, England Scholar c1901 [/size][size=0px][size=0px]Robert Yarr 9 ~1892-3 Nephew Methodist Barrow, England Scholar c1901 [/size][size=0px][size=0px] [/size][size=0px][size=0px]Regarding property numbers used in census[/size][size=0px][size=0px]Address Apr-Mar 1901 120 in Castlereagh Road (Pottinger, Down) in 1911 39 in Castlereagh Road (Pottinger (part of), Down) [/size][size=0px][size=0px][size=0px]Regarding house numbers in Street directories in Castlereagh Road source [/size][size=0px][size=78%]lennonwylie[/size][/size][size=0px][size=0px]1901 no Kells atall lennonwylie[/size][size=0px][size=0px]1908 120. Kells, Mrs. [/size][size=0px][size=0px]1910 110. Kells, Mrs. Mary[/size][size=0px][size=0px]1912 110. Kells, Mrs. Mary[/size][size=0px][size=0px]children in 1901 quantity of children question not in use however 1911 states as 11 born, 10 living. I couldn’t find the 11th. Yet 10 existed in 1901.[/size][size=0px][size=0px]1. Mary Kells [/size][size=0px]24 ~1877-8 Daughter Methodist Belfast Linen Weaver c1901 Linen Weaver c1911 single[/size][size=0px][size=0px]2. Lettie Kells [/size][size=0px]23 ~1878-9 Letitia Jane Daughter Methodist Whiteabbey, Co Antrim Linen Weaver c1901 Linen Weaver c1911 single[/size][size=0px][size=0px]3. Annie Kells [/size][size=0px]21 ~1880-1 aka Elizabeth Ann Kells or another daughter perhaps a year older Daughter Methodist Whiteabbey, Co Antrim Linen Weaver c1901 in the 1911census it is Elizabeth Ann Kells Linen Weaver c1911 single to be a witness to her sister Annie she has to be a different person So my numbering is wrong below[/size][size=0px][size=0px]4. James W Kells [/size][size=0px]19 ~1882-3 Son Methodist Whiteabbey, Co Antrim Apprentice Lithographer c1901 [/size][size=0px][size=0px]5. Robert Kells [/size][size=0px]18 ~1883-4 Son Methodist Cultra, Co Down Apprentice Druggist c1901 [/size][size=0px][size=0px]6. Joseph Kells [/size][size=0px]15 ~1886-7 Son Methodist Belfast Lithographer Feeder c1901 [/size][size=0px][size=0px]7. John Kells[/size][size=0px] 13 ~1888-7 Son Methodist Belfast Scholar c1901 Colour Mixer c1911 single[/size][size=0px][size=0px]8. Richard Kells[/size][size=0px] 11 ~1890-1 ~1890-1 Son Methodist Belfast Scholar c1901 Artist c1911 single[/size][size=0px][size=0px]9. David Kells[/size][size=0px] 9 ~1892-3 ~1892-3 Son Methodist Belfast Scholar c1901 Clerk (Linen Mts) c1911 single[/size][size=0px][size=0px]10. Edith Kells [/size][size=0px]5 ~1896-7 ~1896-7 Daughter Methodist Belfast Scholar c1901 Linen Weaver c1911 single[/size][size=0px][size=0px] in 1911 all c1901 [/size][size=0px][size=0px] Weslyan c1901 [/size][size=0px][size=0px] methodists c1901 [/size][size=0px][size=0px][size=0px]relatives in house 1901 only[/size][size=0px][size=0px]John Yarr 42 ~1859-60 Brother in Law Methodist Ballinderry, Co Antrim Platers Helper c1901 Married[/size][size=0px][size=0px]John Yarr 10 ~1891-2 Nephew Methodist Barrow, England Scholar c1901 [/size][size=0px][size=0px]Robert Yarr 9 ~1892-3 Nephew Methodist Barrow, England Scholar c1901 [/size][size=0px][size=0px] [/size][size=0px][size=0px]Regarding property numbers used in census[/size][size=0px][size=0px]Address Apr-Mar 1901 120 in Castlereagh Road (Pottinger, Down) in 1911 39 in Castlereagh Road (Pottinger (part of), Down) [/size][size=0px][size=0px][size=0px]Regarding house numbers in Street directories in Castlereagh Road source [/size][size=0px][size=78%]lennonwylie[/size][/size][size=0px][size=0px]1901 no Kells atall lennonwylie[/size][size=0px][size=0px]1908 120. Kells, Mrs. [/size][size=0px][size=0px]1910 110. Kells, Mrs. Mary[/size][size=0px][size=0px]1912 110. Kells, Mrs. Mary[/size]
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Its really the third Girl Annie Kells in this census I'm looking for, I've just found her marriage certificate which is on its way to me from GRONI - I'm hoping it will give a place of marriage and witnesses. Annie/Ann married late on in life to a Kerr so I doubt very much if she had any children!

Is it this family Chevron your connected to? How amazing would that be

Il'll do my very best to check out your family to see if I can get a connection with mine..

I believe Mary Edith and Lettie didn't marry so it would have to be the males in the family I need to research through.

All these girls were Nurses either working and overseeing a small Mother and baby unit on the Castlereagh Road and then a Nursing Home in Castlereagh street. Dedicated hard working young women that certainly did a great service to the community in their day..

Kind Regards
Annie