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poacher

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needle in a haystack
« on: January 29, 2019, 07:59:44 PM »
I am looking for anything on a William McIntyre (Soldier) last known address 54 Matilda street Belfast 1886.
That is all the information I have is there any way I can trace him he was my Great Grand Father.

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Re: needle in a haystack
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2019, 11:02:51 AM »

William’s death is not listed in
https://dof.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/burialSearch.aspx
http://www.cliftonstreetcemetery.com
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/

in 1880 Street directory http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/mcomplete1880.htm
Matilda Street
 54. McIntyre, James, pensioner

I was expecting William
any thought  what was your source ?


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Re: needle in a haystack
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2019, 04:40:04 PM »
I got his name from Mary's birth cert
2/12/1886 am confused why he is William mcintyre and her mother's name was Josephine mcintyre my great grandmother
Her Father was a James mcintyre.
Where they married or related?

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Re: needle in a haystack
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2019, 10:46:11 PM »
Looked up ulster historical foundation and found out that James Mcintyre had a son called William born 4 years before Josephine Mcintyre something funny going on I think

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Re: needle in a haystack
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2019, 10:47:08 AM »

poacher you wrote all you had about him
‘William McIntyre (Soldier) last known address 54 Matilda street Belfast 1886.’.  ’ my Great Grand Father’

later you write’ I got his name from Mary's birth cert 2/12/1886 is there anything else on this birth ertificate in same message you write’ mother's name was Josephine mcintyre my great grandmother  you add Her Father was a James mcintyre. are you sure you are reading the ‘her ‘ from the birth certificate correctly

you jump to ulster historical foundationhttps://www.ancestryireland.com/ and write that [a] James Mcintyre had a son called William born 4 years before Josephine Mcintyre.  Tthe only listing fi could find for a William mcintyre with named father James are dated 1830 and 1848
so I lose communication with you. I check this website forany Josephine McIntyre and find a birth Josephine   McIntyre   1853   father James   Down I don’t see any proveable connection  your family to this entry

I go back looking on https://www.emeraldancestors.com/ for a Josephine XXXXX marrying either a James or William mcintyre and find neither   

trying from a different approach who ever was living at 54 matilda st in 1880 was a pensioner, if that same person  or another in 1886 is described as a soldier, then there is a chance either or the same is receiving an army pension,  it is likely he is an ‘out’ pensioner of the Chelsea pensioners. The records for the ‘outs’ are in kew, access is very limited.  familysearch.org has a special database https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=50&query=%2Bgivenname%3Awilliam~%20%2Bsurname%3Amcintyre~&collection_id=1952868  which allows one to search the index, but to see the detailed record inc an address is then thru findmypast website reguiring buying credits or visit your local church of Jesus Christ and the latterday saints then its free?
so I found two entries for James McIntyre born Belfast inc Belfast in Co Antrim and Belfast Co Down b 1793 and 1795
and five entries for William McIntyre born Belfast inc Belfast in Co Antrim and Belfast Co Down birth yr est1795 Down, 1817 Antrim, 1836  Down, 1837 antrim 1817 Antrim, 1860 Antrim

tha last is my best guess as he is of marriageable age

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Re: needle in a haystack
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2019, 12:12:45 PM »
James mcintyre was my great great grand father his daughter was Josephine mcintyre my great grand mother who gave birth to Mary mcintyre my grandmother who married my grandfather Thomas Campbell in 1917 the connection I have is James mcintyre (head constable R I C) married a Francis Newman my father's name  is Hugh Newman Campbell James lived in 54 matilda Street and was pensioner
Crazy family

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Re: needle in a haystack
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2019, 03:53:21 PM »
Thankyou for your help and time JimG

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Re: needle in a haystack
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2019, 05:52:49 PM »
thank you poacher, but what fun

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Re: needle in a haystack
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2019, 11:46:21 AM »
I am looking at Mary's marriage and  this is what is listed for her father

Wife's Father's Name[/size]
ROBERT BENNETT MCINTYRE (Tailor)

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Re: needle in a haystack
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2019, 04:19:38 PM »
Hi Rosemary Joan
Mary was born on 2nd June 1886
Father William Mcintyre (Soldier)
Mother Josephine Mcintyre
formily McIntyre
54 Matilda St Belfast
Ann Campbell present at birth
75 Matilda St Belfast.
Can't tell if parents where married.
She was then with Robert Bennett  not Bennett McIntyre no proff of marriage either. Robert died in early 1900s address
Leopold Street Belfast
What worrys me where William and Josephine related.