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Willy49

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french O'neill searching irish origins
« on: March 08, 2019, 11:26:47 AM »
hello,

sorry for my english, i hope you can understand.

i'm french and i'm looking for my irish origins

- my great great grand father (james o'neill) is son of Peter o'neill and Mary O'neill (122 milford street)
- he got married with Mary Neeson (56 Milford street) in 25 december 1891 and lived (126 milford street)
- they had 3 childrens Mary, Sarah born in january 1900 (my great grand mother) and Peter born in 1901/1902
- Sarah and peter were raised by their grandmother Anne Neeson
- Sarah left ireland to come to france between 1920 and 1926

i hope someone can give me more information.

in end of april i bring my grand-mother (86 years old) to ireland to she discover the country where her mother was born.

Loneygrandchild

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Re: french O'neill searching irish origins
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2019, 07:05:38 PM »
Hi, I am happy to say that Willy49 is a relative of mine.
I am happy to share our family history.

LGC  :D
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JimG

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Re: french O'neill searching irish origins
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2019, 08:50:40 PM »

Loneygrandchild you amaze me. Heres what i was going to offer a starter for Willy49
You have done well so far,  the most important element found within 30 minutes is that your first known ancestor currently Peter OíNeill was a pilot in Belfast for a simple description see Maritime pilot Ė Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_pilot  A maritime pilot, marine pilot, harbor pilot, bar pilot, or simply pilot, is a sailor who maneuvers ships through dangerous or congested waters, such as harbors or river mouths.  History ∑ ‎Duties involved ∑ ‎Compensation ∑ ‎References this description of him applies in the Belfast street directories eg http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/  and
http://streetdirectories.proni.gov.uk/  1890
Milford street contains other OíNeils who could be his relatives
46, 48. O'Neill, James, grocer 
52. O'Neill, John, mechanic
92. O'Neill, John, painter
122. O'Neill, Peter, pilot presumably a pilot in the harbour area
 
The  1901 census 126.2 in Milford Street (Smithfield, Antrim) see http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie
O Neill Mary 25 Female Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Antrim Yarn Spinner Read - Married {Mary can read but not write, the census has her mark witnessed by Michael McLoughlin}-
O Neill Mary 8 Female Daughter Roman Catholic City Belfast Scholar Read and write - Not Married -
O Neill Peter 3 Male Son Roman Catholic City Belfast Scholar Cannot read - Not Married -
O Neill Sarah 1 Female Daughter Roman Catholic City Belfast - Cannot read - Not Married -

and 1892 but the entry disappears by 1895, in one of these directories another man is described as a Master pilot so two categories of pilot existed in Belfast
The 1901 census confirms your information
126.2 in Milford Street (Smithfield, Antrim) the numbering in census is different to a street directory
O Neill Mary 25 Female Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Antrim Yarn Spinner Read - Married Mary can read but not write the censushas her mark witnessed by Michael McLoughlin- You can look this up.
O Neill Mary 8 Female Daughter Roman Catholic City Belfast Scholar Read and write - Not Married -
O Neill Peter 3 Male Son Roman Catholic City Belfast Scholar Cannot read - Not Married -
O Neill Sarah 1 Female Daughter Roman Catholic City Belfast - Cannot read - Not Married -
1911 census
5.2 in Plevna Street (Falls (Belfast), Antrim)
Neeson Anne 73 Female Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Antrim Old Aged Pensioner Cannot read - Widow describes herself as housekeeperin street directory1907 - - -
Neeson Margaret 60 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Antrim - Cannot read - Single - - - O Neill  Peter 13 Male Grand Son Roman Catholic Belfast City Scholar Cannot read - Single
O Neill  Sarah 12 Female Grand Daughter Roman Catholic Belfast City Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -

could this be Mary junior below in 1911 census
117.1 in Nelson Street (St. Anne's Ward, Antrim)
Santini Carlo 47 Male Head of Family R Catholic Italy Ice Cream Shop Assistant Read and write - Married - 25 9 6
Santini Annie 47 Female Wife R Catholic England - Read and write - Married - 25 9 6
more family then plus 2 servants
McDermott Sarah 18 Female Servant R Catholic Belfast Musecian Organ Grinder Read and write - Single - - - -
O'Neill Mary 17 Female Servant R Catholic Belfast Musecian Organ Grinder Read and write - Single - - - -
Goodluck and enjoy the visit

Loneygrandchild

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Re: french O'neill searching irish origins
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2019, 03:16:21 PM »
Hi JimG, thank you for the information.
All of it I have found, but I was confused when my Great Great Grandfather was recorded as a pilot, so thanks for that.
From documents I have this is his employment history:
1861 census a smiths helper.
1863 marriage a labourer.
Family birth & death certs:
1869/71 a fireman.
1874 a coal trimmer.
1876 a fireman.
1878 an engine driver.
1890 a labourer.
1895 his death cert, an engine driver.
1913 death cert of my Great Great Grandmother, an engineer.
As for Mary OíNeill junior. I do not know if it is the Mary Iím looking for but Iíll look into it.
Thanks again,
LGC
 
 
 
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harrison

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Re: french O'neill searching irish origins
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2019, 07:53:25 PM »
My great great great grandmother Mary O'Neill married Bernard
Stuart in St.Patrick's RC.Chapel Donegal Street 1842.She lived in
Union Street and lived Kent Street.