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mateer1987

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Re: Mateer/Armstrong family
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2019, 08:41:32 PM »
McWatters notices, 4 May 1961:



what is the website you got these from? curious if they go back earlier to other relatives further back

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Re: Mateer/Armstrong family
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2019, 09:01:22 PM »
1 February 1966 (British newspaper archive) - it could be a co-incidence of name, but there again, Vivien Mateer is not a common name combination and the Spencer Street mention lends interest:




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Re: Mateer/Armstrong family
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2019, 10:46:24 AM »
how do ingo about finding earlier records? i have my 3x great grandfather - francis mateer born in about 1839, on marriage record his father is Hugh Mateer, how doningo about finding out about hugh? as birth records erc only go back so far

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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2019, 11:28:47 PM »
have also had issue trying to find birth records for joseph and john mateer. father is edward mateer (1866-1939) joseph on 1911 census with edward and that is all. unable tonfind any other records relating to him what so ever and the same goes for john.

all i know is joseph born 1910 and john born 1912

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Re: Mateer/Armstrong family
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2019, 12:53:10 AM »
The relevant 1911 census return is a bit all over the place, so you need to give it a wide tolerance on accuracy. For example, the age of Joseph? (Joposh) has been corrected from something else that I can't make out. But Edward is definitely recorded as widowed (again). What is the source of your 'john born 1912' and who do you have as the mother?

There was a John b. 1904:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01819/1711797.pdf

But he died 3 months later:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1904/05613/4578688.pdf

There was also this birth of a boy near Lurgan, quite some way from Belfast, however the parents names are a match:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1908/01638/1654919.pdf

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Re: Mateer/Armstrong family
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2019, 12:59:19 AM »

how do ingo about finding earlier records? i have my 3x great grandfather - francis mateer born in about 1839, on marriage record his father is Hugh Mateer, how doningo about finding out about hugh? as birth records erc only go back so far


You may struggle, I'm afraid the availability of records further back than the mid 1800s is poor and where they exist, the extent of information within them can be likewise.


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Re: Mateer/Armstrong family
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2019, 09:26:38 AM »
The relevant 1911 census return is a bit all over the place, so you need to give it a wide tolerance on accuracy. For example, the age of Joseph? (Joposh) has been corrected from something else that I can't make out. But Edward is definitely recorded as widowed (again). What is the source of your 'john born 1912' and who do you have as the mother?

There was a John b. 1904:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01819/1711797.pdf

But he died 3 months later:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1904/05613/4578688.pdf

There was also this birth of a boy near Lurgan, quite some way from Belfast, however the parents names are a match:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1908/01638/1654919.pdf

i come across john on another tree in ancestry and also found on the same tree that joseph was married to mary ellen martin