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Raystephenson

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Crawford Sisters
« on: June 09, 2019, 07:34:20 PM »


Hi, I am trying to find details of Children of Samuel Crawford and Mary Jane Crawford (Nee) Gibson.
Children's births are as follows.
Catherine 1870
Mary 1872
Eliza Jane 1874
Martha 1879
amongst others, they were all born in Dromore Middle, Clogher, Co Tyrone, Northern Ireland.

Catherine appears as a 23-year-old on 1901 census again as a 40-year-old on the 1911 census.

This is where the trail has gone cold.

Can anyone help as to where these 4 girls have gone?

Passenger lists are a possibility

Any help much appreciated.

Raystephenson

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Re: Crawford Sisters
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2019, 09:08:51 PM »
Think I have found Catherine. There's a will of a Catherine of Dromore middle spinster 7 Feb 1951. left to William Irwin which would be her brother in law.
There is another will of her aunt also named Catherine Tatnadavney 1908 to her nephew James as also seen living with her on the 1901 census. 

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Re: Crawford Sisters
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2019, 11:55:58 PM »
     I assume this is the abstract you have found.
 
Crawford Catherine of Dromore Middle Clogher county Tyrone spinster died 7 February 1951 Probate Londonderry 13 July to William Irwin farmer. Effects £415 13s. 8d.
 
If so, it doesn’t mean that William Irwin inherited her estate. It means he was her executor. PRONI should have the will (in paper format) and that may give you other clues. It may mention her sisters or nieces and nephews etc.
 
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Raystephenson

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Re: Crawford Sisters
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2019, 07:09:11 AM »
Elwyn,

Thank you so much for pointing this out.

CMcG

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Re: Crawford Sisters
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2019, 07:32:35 AM »
Just to note that there would appear to be no bequest for children other than Andrew, Catherine and Emily in Samuel Crawford's will, given that probate was resisted in court, I would have expected a mention of any other living children in court as part of the full facts of the case.


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Re: Crawford Sisters
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2019, 07:53:49 AM »
BTW, I am aware that the 1911 census return indicates 7 children living. But it just seems odd to me that the 'others' weren't mentioned in court, even in passing in order to dispense with them, given the particular nature of the case.


Raystephenson

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Re: Crawford Sisters
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2019, 09:06:11 AM »
Can you assist me. I can't find Samuel Crawford's will.

Though, Just to be clear. I have his death as 8 Dec 1914. Daughter Emily present at death.

CMcG

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Re: Crawford Sisters
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2019, 09:49:04 AM »
The NAI website shows the entry, but I haven't read the will, I'm going by the newspaper reports: 
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014919/005014919_00076.pdf



The above was from the Derry Journal on 29 January 1915, there was a similar report in the Belfast Telegraph on the same day.


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Re: Crawford Sisters
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2019, 10:04:18 AM »
CMcG. That's some researching. Thanks so much. I guess now I have to find a passenger list to prove this is the case for Samuel.
Don't you just love a good puzzle?

I wonder if the other children went abroad and Samuel went to visit. All speculation, but worth considering.

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Re: Crawford Sisters
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2019, 10:32:26 AM »
Are there passenger lists that I can research. (Free)?

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Re: Crawford Sisters
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2019, 10:47:25 AM »
No.

Findmypast and Ancestry have passenger lists but they require payment to use. You might be able to get around that if your local library has a subscription to either site. (Many do). That might allow you free access.
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Re: Crawford Sisters
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2019, 11:09:36 AM »
Aha, I have.

Thanks again.

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Re: Crawford Sisters
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2019, 12:46:11 PM »
You might want to focus initially on Philadelphia:

- there is a 1902 ship's manifest for that destination showing a 23 year old Andrew Crawford, a farmer from Tyrone, travelling to what looks like 2444 Perrot Street with mention of a 'brother Wm. Donaldson', 'Overbrook, and 'sister Mary Crawford';
- there is an 1895 ship's manifest for that destination showing a 21 year old Mary Crawford, recorded as a domestic from what could pass for Fintona... again the name 'Wm. Donaldson' seems to be in her line, also 'Overbrook' and 'brother', but it is difficult to make out, so I will leave it to you to interpret.

The only reason I mention this is that I'm aware that Mary Gibson married a David Donaldson before she married Samuel Crawford... maybe William is a half brother? 'FamilySearch' has passenger lists as well, I could see various leads on it and 'Ancestry' to pursue, but will have to leave that to you or others for the moment.


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Re: Crawford Sisters
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2019, 01:29:30 PM »
CMcG your help (As always) is totally fantastic. I'll look into this. 

100% respect for you and your ability to find such important documents.


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Re: Crawford Sisters
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2019, 09:40:42 AM »
CMcG, Unfortunately I can't find the information you state. May I ask you to do a screen print please. Andrew Crawford etc.

It would be much appreciated.

Thanks again.