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Natalie_doc_xo

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William L Savage
« on: July 12, 2019, 01:06:09 AM »
Hi everyone,

I was wondering if anyone could help me at all recently my grandad passed away and he never really could remember things when he was younger and he didn't really have any photos I was wondering if anyone new him or his family and could tell me a little about him/them or had any photos. Thank you

He was born on the Shankill, I cant remember the street name
he had 2 brothers and I think 5 or 6 sisters
he was a for man bricklayer he built Jordanstown, Aston villa football ground and a few others
he worked in O'Hara's bakery
he married my granny Nora Savage who was from Whitecity

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Re: William L Savage
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2019, 01:09:50 AM »
he was also a teddy boy

JimG

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Re: William L Savage
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2019, 07:54:49 PM »
YourTwo grandfathers:- if you want to find out more information about the their generation and ancestors you really need copies of their birth certificates ,  full marriage certificates, or burial places etc to later prove connection and give us a chance now to delve backwards   Do either of them exist with yourself or other family members.


in the meantime drawn from your other posts  to put you into their respective trees
The DOHERTY line
William [Liam] Doherty b 1930s d 2018 Doherty played for Wolfe Tones gas club  lived Longlands he moved to the Lower White-Well were he remanded on till his death.
 , m Bridget Doherty (nee Lundy)  from sailortown area
children.  
unknown Doherty m unknown Savage
children.   m
Natalie_doc_xo


The SAVAGE line
William L Savage b~1935 shankill area a Teddy Boy he had 2 brothers and 5 or 6 sisters
he was a foreman bricklayer he built Jordanstown, Aston villa football ground and a few others He worked in O'Hara's bakery  m Nora Savage nee unknown from whitecity ,
children.  
unknown Savage m unknown Doherty
children.  
Natalie_doc_xo
 
Because I searched for Savage first , heres my starter
Some street directory entries for Savage bricklayer in Belfast from http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk


1852 Savage, James, brick layer, 15 Galway Court
1852 Savage, Thomas, brick layer, 5 Lower Stanfield Street
1861 Thomas Savage, brick layer 6 Murphy Street Verner Street to Eliza Street
1861 Hugh Savage bricklayer Verner Street May Street to Stanfield Street
1868 Savage, Francis, brick layer, 47 Langford Street
1868 Savage, Hugh, brick layer, 50 Verner Street
1868 Savage, James, brick layer, 47 Roy Street
1868 Savage, James, brick layer, Pound Lane, Cullingtree Road
1868 Savage, John, brickfield, Oldpark Road
1868 Savage, Thomas, brick layer, 24 McAuley Street
1868 Savage, William, brick layer, 22 Langford Street
1877 Savage, James, brick layer, 82 Milford Street
1877 Savage, William, brick layer, 22 Langford Street
1880 Savage, Zebulon, brick layer 26 Derry street off Crimea Street
1890 25. Savage, Edwd., brick layer 27
1907 Savage, Geo., brick layer, 78 Emerson Street
1911 Savage James bricklayer aged 40   76 in Hillman Street (Dock Ward, Antrim)
1918 Savage, Geo., brick layer, 23 Wimbledon Street
1924 Savage, Patk., brick layer
1932 & 1943 a Bricklayers Society existed No4 Garfield St Lr North Street to Royal Ave..
1943. Savage, Patrick, brick layer 52 Eliza St from 96 Cromac St to Stewart Street
1960 Savage, Francis, brick layer 26 Glenalina Rd from Whiterock Rd to Divismore Pk


possible sources burials
https://dof.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/ which led me backwards
was your grandfather a William Larkin Savage last residence 19 Woodvale St Belfast who died May 1989 Did he or a relative live at 39 Mountjoy St in 1969 or 1971
total speculation, so keep for later;  was your great grandfather a William Savage in 1911 census
76 in Hillman Street (Dock Ward, Antrim)
Savage James 40 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Belfast City Bricklayer Read and write - Married - 10 5 5
Savage Mary 35 Female Wife Presbyterian Belfast City - Read and write - Married - 10 5 5
Savage Elizabeth 8 Female Daughter - Belfast City Scholar - - - - - - -
Savage James 7 Male Son - Belfast City Scholar - - - - - - -
Savage Mary 5 Female Daughter - Belfast City Scholar
Savage Henry 3 Male Son - Belfast City -
Savage William 1 Male Son - Belfast City – Could he be William Larkin
however then I found a James Larkin Savage b Lurgan Jan-Mar 1911  source https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBR2-RYZ
so stopping as speculating too far


Well that’s my starter have you any more historical material
next step is to check a wonderful source https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ it takes a little practice to use it, you should try it, preferably with a friend to help. I await your reply, others might join in quicker


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Re: William L Savage
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2019, 02:02:53 AM »
Hi Sorry for the late reply my grandad Savage and his family loved in Mount joy street

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Re: William L Savage
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2019, 06:41:31 PM »
ffrom the Belfast city cemetery mentioned more details extracted and added to yours which shows a George A Savage appears to be a missing great uncle
Savage only search

William Larkin Savage 78 b~1911 [labourer 1960 ] d 22 May 1989,  bur.24 May 1989 City Cemetery - Glenalina Extension last address 19 Woodvale St m Mary Jane Savage 63 b 1906 13 August 1969 bur. 16 August 1969 City Cemetery - Glenalina Extension View details last address 39 Mountjoy St
children you mentioned 2 brothers and 5 or 6 sisters
1.brother b unknown
2. George A Savage 39 b ~1932 14 February 1971,  bur. 16 February 1971 City Cemetery - Glenalina Extension View details last address 39 Mountjoy St
3. [speculation no proof 3. William Larkin [Liam?] Savage B~1935 bricklayer m Nora
4 to 9 or 10  all Sisters

previous addresses to Mountjoy st before 1951
1943
Savage, William, 35 Sandhurst Gardens stranmillis possible no occupation given
Savage, W., 23 Elimgrove St off cliftonville rad Savage j pattern maker found possible no occupation given
if he joined up then one of the mrs savages
1939
Savage, William, joiner 8 Lincoln Avenue  off 36 Antrim Road
1907 24 Samuel Street Winetavern Street to Millfield
Samuel Street 24. Savage, Wm., labourer

lurgan entry going back to
http://www.lurganancestry.com/lurgand1925p6.htm
a George Savage clogher lurgan is an newly established business 

I ckecked the index entry of over 100 Savage queries found on Belfast forums top rhcorner search icon. there are several references to a Billy Savage leader of a brick union, whose reputation existed in London all could be of interest to you