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Joe Kerr

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Farewell Harland and Wolff
« on: August 05, 2019, 06:35:20 PM »
Really sad that a once great shipyard is now designed for the breakers yard. No doubt there will be those who are dancing in the streets.

The Yard was looking for a bailout of £650,000 to keep going until the end of August, but with an empty order book and no definite orders on the horizon there was no way the government could or should bail them out.

The  workforce say that they will stay until they win. John McDonnell, the Shadow Chancellor was there to offer them support. Now thatís a kiss of death.

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Re: Farewell Harland and Wolff
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2019, 06:57:18 PM »
Really sad that a once great shipyard is now designed for the breakers yard. No doubt there will be those who are dancing in the streets.

The Yard was looking for a bailout of £650,000 to keep going until the end of August, but with an empty order book and no definite orders on the horizon there was no way the government could or should bail them out.

The  workforce say that they will stay until they win. John McDonnell, the Shadow Chancellor was there to offer them support. Now thatís a kiss of death.
The kiss of death is coming from the DUP.

Unite, GMB and the Labour Party have all called for the shipyard to be renationalised.

But Boris Johnsonís crew of free-marketeer ideologues would prefer to see the company go to the wall, calling the crisis a ďcommercial issueĒ.

The DUP, or even just one or two of their MPs, could force them to save it though.

At the same time Harland and Wolff workers were protesting, the DUP were meeting with Johnson in Belfast to discuss the confidence and supply relationship.

If they wanted to, the DUP could threaten to withdraw support for this agreement unless the shipyard is saved.

The fact they have chosen not to insist on this shows how little the DUPís leadership care about ordinary people in Belfast.

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Re: Farewell Harland and Wolff
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2019, 07:08:58 PM »
Correct
seems the only main stream party interested in trying to save the yard and its work force was  Labour - John McDonnell the Shadow Chancellor  said the shipyard should be re- nationalised!
The DUP surrendered very easily and have put up very little resistance on behalf of the workers!

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Re: Farewell Harland and Wolff
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2019, 07:13:38 PM »
The kiss of death is coming from the DUP.

Unite, GMB and the Labour Party have all called for the shipyard to be renationalised.

But Boris Johnsonís crew of free-marketeer ideologues would prefer to see the company go to the wall, calling the crisis a ďcommercial issueĒ.

The DUP, or even just one or two of their MPs, could force them to save it though.

At the same time Harland and Wolff workers were protesting, the DUP were meeting with Johnson in Belfast to discuss the confidence and supply relationship.

If they wanted to, the DUP could threaten to withdraw support for this agreement unless the shipyard is saved.

The fact they have chosen not to insist on this shows how little the DUPís leadership care about ordinary people in Belfast.

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They have no orders, and no orders in the pipeline. So somebody decides to renationalise the Yard; now where are we? We have 130 people sitting round scratching their [censored] and getting paid to do it. How long do they keep this going? Six months, five years? £ 650k going out every month. What are 130 people going to build, what are their skill sets?

Unite, GMB and John McDonnell; blood suckers.

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Re: Farewell Harland and Wolff
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2019, 08:08:14 PM »
They have no orders, and no orders in the pipeline. So somebody decides to renationalise the Yard; now where are we? We have 130 people sitting round scratching their [censored] and getting paid to do it. How long do they keep this going? Six months, five years? £ 650k going out every month. What are 130 people going to build, what are their skill sets?

Unite, GMB and John McDonnell; blood suckers.
How are those who are willing to help "blood suckers".

Two potential buyers of the company who are thought to be interested on a sale after an administration.
One based in Newry the other based in the US, will be interesting to see who gets it.
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Re: Farewell Harland and Wolff
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2019, 08:18:58 PM »
I reckon it will be a property developer.

What was McDonnell doing here, the Labour Party has refused to allow people here to stand as official Labour Party candidates in elections? He was only here to be seen to be here, he has no interest in N.Ireland except possibly to endorse his leaderís support for a United Ireland

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Re: Farewell Harland and Wolff
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2019, 08:21:07 PM »
Really sad that a once great shipyard is now designed for the breakers yard. No doubt there will be those who are dancing in the streets.

The Yard was looking for a bailout of £650,000 to keep going until the end of August, but with an empty order book and no definite orders on the horizon there was no way the government could or should bail them out.

The  workforce say that they will stay until they win. John McDonnell, the Shadow Chancellor was there to offer them support. Now thatís a kiss of death.

Yes, how bizarre that under 13 years of Labour rule they never re-nationalised anything ?  ::)  People like McDonnell calling for the yard to be nationised may be a popular sound bite, but that's all it is. They know only too well it isn't going to happen and speaking as a former employee, neither should it happen. I have a funny feeling that whilst the great Harland & Wolff are down, they are not out, by any means.  ::) 
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Re: Farewell Harland and Wolff
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2019, 10:36:22 PM »


 In one word " karma "

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For no other reason then their religion,were murdered.

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Re: Farewell Harland and Wolff
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2019, 10:37:41 PM »
It's dead live with it.

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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2019, 11:26:04 PM »
We have 130 people sitting round scratching their [censored] and getting paid to do it. How long do they keep this going? Six months, five years? £ 650k going out every month.


Sounds like those up on the hill?  Joe.
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Re: Farewell Harland and Wolff
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2019, 02:41:49 AM »
H & W was more than just a factory to Belfast.

It was part of the fabric.

When I was a kid at the local secondary school it was presented as one of few options.

The history is largely one of hard men grafting to afford a life and raise a family in cramped terraced housing.

I recall a friend of mine in Belfast.

His old man worked in the shipyard all his life.

Something like 50 yrs and not one day sick. He took real pride in that.

On retirement, the poor guy didn't know what to do with himself.

He spent his pension pot doing up the little terraced house, making it nice. He did a lot of the work himself, keeping himself busy.

Then one night, after watching the football on telly with his son, he took himself off to bed.

A couple of hours later, his son went to bed and found him hanging from the stairs.

I remember at his small funeral little mention was made of his hard work and nothing was said about him never having a day off sick.


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Re: Farewell Harland and Wolff
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2019, 08:29:04 AM »
Karma!!!

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Re: Farewell Harland and Wolff
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2019, 05:30:31 PM »
Karma!!!

Did you ever think you would see the day
To see a protest at the shipyard/soup kitchen
And not a union Jack in view
Looks like  the loyalist and DUP have sold them down the river
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no matter how long it takes

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Re: Farewell Harland and Wolff
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2019, 09:07:11 AM »
SAVE OUR SHIPYARD  :P

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Re: Farewell Harland and Wolff
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2019, 09:09:48 AM »
And so say all of us princess O0