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Raystephenson

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Martha S Nelson
« on: August 14, 2019, 11:32:09 AM »
Good day everyone.

I have a marriage for a Martha S Nelson. Marriage to John Boylan. 28 Dec 1904. [size=78%]https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1904/10217/5719017.pdf[/size]
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[size=78%]Sadly John dies in 1907 at the grand old age of 80 years. According to his will, his wife is mentioned as Matilda Boylan not Martha. [/size]

I then found Martha in the 1901 census as a 34 single lady. [size=78%]http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Aghintain/Townagh/1726691/[/size]
Same place given as residence as for marriage certificate. Fathers name Thomas Nelson.

On the 1911 census it  states same residence and now a widow. (2 years married). Age 45 years. [size=78%]http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Aghintain/Townagh/856462/[/size]

Can anyone find a birth for this lady?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks guys.

JimG

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Re: Martha S Nelson
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2019, 05:55:03 PM »

Martha Nelson 1901 is the same person as Martha Boylan 1911 and is the same person called Matilda Boylan in John Boylans s will and probate see marriage certificate ref below

Thomas Nelson d before 1901 census m eliza nelson aged 70 widow in 1901 census
1901 census in Townagh (Aghintain, Tyrone)
Nelson Eliza 70 Female Head of Family Presbyterian Co Fermanagh Farmer Read and write - Widow -
Nelson William 50 Male Son Presbyterian Co Tyrone Farmers Son Read and write - Not Married -
Nelson Hugh 40 Male Son Presbyterian Co Tyrone Farmer's Son Read and write - Not Married -
Nelson Thomas 42 Male Son Presbyterian Co Tyrone Farmers Son Read and write - Widower -
Nelson Martha 34 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Tyrone Farmers Daughter Read and write - Not Married -
Nelson John 7 Male Relation Presbyterian Co Tyrone Scholar Cannot read - Not Married -
Nelson Charles 5 Male Relation Presbyterian Co Tyrone Scholar Cannot read - Not Married
Keys Robert 12 Male Nephew I C Co Fermanagh Scholar Read and write - Not Married -
Nelson William 9 Male Relation Presbyterian Co Tyrone Scholar Read and write - Not Married -
Nelson Elizabeth 2 Female Relation Presbyterian Co Tyrone - Cannot read - Not Married -
Fleming James 16 Male Servant I C Co Tyrone Labourer Read and write - Not Married -

1911 census
2 in Townagh (Aghintain, Tyrone)
Nelson Hugh 49 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Co Tyrone Farmer Read and write - Single - - - -
Boylan Martha 45 Female Sister Presbyterian Co Tyrone - Read and write - Widow - 2 [years married] - -
Nelson John 17 Male Nephew Presbyterian Co Tyrone - Read and write - Single - - - -
Nelson Charles 14 Male Nephew Presbyterian Co Tyrone - Read and write - Single - - - -
Nelson Mary Elizabeth 12 Female Niece Presbyterian Co Tyrone Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -

Martha S Nelson. dau of Thomas nelson    Marriage to John Boylan. 28 Dec 1904. d 1907 aged 80 but wife named Matilda in his will  I confirm this only refers to Matilda his wife no other beneficiary or witness is a Nelson.  John Boylan signs with his mark see  the 4 pages reproduced at https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearchImage.aspx?id=250172 [size=78%]   Killinahushogue County Tyrone Retired Farmer who died 13 April 1907
I searched at PRONI for Mary or Martha Boylanís will and was puzzled at not finding the expected unless she changed address etc

the detail of the marriage include her and his signatures with hers entered as Martha S?  Nelson in the parish of Clogher as per Presbyterian church licence https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/chu[size=78%]rchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1904/10217/5719017.pdf[/size]

I checked familysearch for births for Martha without success if you had searched it already that would have saved my time
I also checked genes reunited [size=78%]for births for Martha without success[/size]
I presume you have already searched https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

good luck onwards


Raystephenson

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Re: Martha S Nelson
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2019, 07:04:25 PM »
Hi Jim, most of this information I have.
I did search the places you stated to no avail. Maybe she was born under a different name and that Martha-Matilda was her middle name. Who knows.

Thank you once again for the response.

Much appreciated as always.


JimG

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Re: Martha S Nelson
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2019, 07:55:26 PM »

to search for the birth/baptism record did you use
Clogher Presbyterian church records including these microfilms etc held at PRONI Belfast  see
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/sites/default/files/publications/PRONI-Guide-to-Church-Records.pdf
you should look the other church records for Clogher on this downloadable resource
 
P. Aughentaine [sic Aughintain] Baptisms, 1836-1953; marriages, 1845-1909; marriage notices, 1846-1906; committee minutes, 1887-9. 
MIC1P/80; MIC1P/230/4

P. Carntall or Clogher Baptisms, 1819-45 and 1858-1985; marriages, 1829
1934; marriage notices, 1860-1906; lists of communicants, 1829-38, 1860-97 and 1903-13;
session minutes, 1825-43 and 1862-1954; committee minutes, 1831-1929; account book, 1814-62 ;stipend  MIC1P/96; and other accounts, 1874-1924. MIC1P/230/4B

P. Glenhoy Baptisms, 1852 and 1864-1984; marriages, 1869MIC1P/255; 1907; marriage notices, 1860-1906. MIC1P/230/4B

the missing periods you would need to contact each church

you can download  townlands maps for north and south Clogher establishing how the townlands relate to each other in distance and those of the three churches mentioned
all of which will save you time
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/townlands/images/ClogherParishNorth.pdf
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/townlands/images/ClogherParishSouth.pdf


Raystephenson

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Re: Martha S Nelson
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2019, 08:10:40 PM »
Thank you