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Re: Belfast and Dublin
« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2020, 08:45:11 AM »
Personally, I cant understand how the `ordinary person` can afford to live in the Free State ?   ::)
Is it not free??? :o :haha:
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« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2020, 11:41:47 AM »
Its been the Republic of Ireland since 1949.  But then, --- some people are still living in the past.
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« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2020, 01:00:17 PM »
Is it not free??? :o :haha:

Nothing, but nothing is `free` in the Free State. Its worse than the USA.   ::)
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« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2020, 01:12:16 PM »
Obviously Irish history is not one of poor Billy's strengths :P :P :P . Perhaps he might tell us why he professes to do business with a country and a people he so blatantly despises. ??? ??? ???

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« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2020, 03:51:00 PM »
Thought it was a given Mr Flanagan, most would appreciate business owners go where they have to in order to maintain their companies interests and workers livelihoods and is none of OUR business on a public forum to know such details! True to form when I lived in Co wicklow most folk I learned rather quickly were as nosey as sin, almost amusing in their efforts to learn what income was achieved! The blatant ones who asked outright got a wide bearth on the social scene.

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« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2020, 04:19:17 PM »
All this rose-tinted glasses generalisation about the Republic of Ireland being the 'best wee country' and pretending that Dublin is some sort of Darby O'Gill Shangri-La is utter delusional nonsense.  :D   Like anywhere else in the world, the Republic of Ireland in general and Dublin in particular has its good bits and bad bits, its people comprise good'uns and bad'uns, and any attempt to portray this otherwise, clearly betrays a 'partisan' slant / agenda.  Let's look at some reality published just a month ago:

Dublin has been ranked the worst city in the world to find a place to live for expats in a new study published on Tuesday. Irelandís capital was in last place of the 82 cities surveyed in the Expat City Ranking 2019 ... ďThe cost of living is a turn off, itís a nightmare to find an apartment to rent and equally so to find good childcare options,Ē one Brazilian respondent said ... Dublinís overall ranking was two points worse than London (in 70th place), but scored better in the "urban work life" category for job security and work-life balance. However, London fared better in the quality of life, and finance and housing categories.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/abroad/dublin-ranked-the-worst-city-in-the-world-to-move-to-for-housing-1.4102979

In the above 2019 survey (you can see the 2018 and 2017 outcome summaries as well), the few positive rankings for Dublin were in the specific area of jobs (eg. job security, work-life balance) and 'local friendliness', but most of the other rankings were atrocious, including:

- quality of urban living;
- leisure & climate;
- transportation;
- health & environment;
- finance;
- housing;
- cost of living.

Wake up and smell the coffee, Dublin has MAJOR issues ... just like Belfast and London, in fact. But I imagine that I will be regarded as a sectarian bigot by some, for daring to express that view about Dublin.  ::)

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« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2020, 06:10:43 PM »
With respect, grey marian, my request was not directed at you. I merely queried the ethics of a person who does business with people he clearly loathes.
Re your convoluted comment on people who live in Co. Wicklow, I do not feel competent to comment never having lived there and knowing very few people from there. However, it does appear a ludicrous generalisation with no basis whatsoever.

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« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2020, 06:55:10 PM »
Thought it was a given Mr Flanagan, most would appreciate business owners go where they have to in order to maintain their companies interests and workers livelihoods and is none of OUR business on a public forum to know such details! True to form when I lived in Co wicklow most folk I learned rather quickly were as nosey as sin, almost amusing in their efforts to learn what income was achieved! The blatant ones who asked outright got a wide bearth on the social scene.
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That took me back Marian!!!

Several times in my `teens and twenties`other girls would ask how much you earned .

Also,when one wore an item of clothing their question was `where did you buy it and how much did it cost you`.
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LOL

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Re: Belfast and Dublin
« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2020, 08:24:53 PM »
Obviously Irish history is not one of poor Billy's strengths :P :P :P . Perhaps he might tell us why he professes to do business with a country and a people he so blatantly despises. ??? ??? ???

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« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2020, 08:26:08 PM »
Thought it was a given Mr Flanagan, most would appreciate business owners go where they have to in order to maintain their companies interests and workers livelihoods and is none of OUR business on a public forum to know such details! True to form when I lived in Co wicklow most folk I learned rather quickly were as nosey as sin, almost amusing in their efforts to learn what income was achieved! The blatant ones who asked outright got a wide bearth on the social scene.

Hear hear, Marian. Some are far too nosey, by far. Lol  :D O0
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« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2020, 08:29:14 PM »
All this rose-tinted glasses generalisation about the Republic of Ireland being the 'best wee country' and pretending that Dublin is some sort of Darby O'Gill Shangri-La is utter delusional nonsense.  :D   Like anywhere else in the world, the Republic of Ireland in general and Dublin in particular has its good bits and bad bits, its people comprise good'uns and bad'uns, and any attempt to portray this otherwise, clearly betrays a 'partisan' slant / agenda.  Let's look at some reality published just a month ago:

Dublin has been ranked the worst city in the world to find a place to live for expats in a new study published on Tuesday. Irelandís capital was in last place of the 82 cities surveyed in the Expat City Ranking 2019 ... ďThe cost of living is a turn off, itís a nightmare to find an apartment to rent and equally so to find good childcare options,Ē one Brazilian respondent said ... Dublinís overall ranking was two points worse than London (in 70th place), but scored better in the "urban work life" category for job security and work-life balance. However, London fared better in the quality of life, and finance and housing categories.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/abroad/dublin-ranked-the-worst-city-in-the-world-to-move-to-for-housing-1.4102979

In the above 2019 survey (you can see the 2018 and 2017 outcome summaries as well), the few positive rankings for Dublin were in the specific area of jobs (eg. job security, work-life balance) and 'local friendliness', but most of the other rankings were atrocious, including:

- quality of urban living;
- leisure & climate;
- transportation;
- health & environment;
- finance;
- housing;
- cost of living.

Wake up and smell the coffee, Dublin has MAJOR issues ... just like Belfast and London, in fact. But I imagine that I will be regarded as a sectarian bigot by some, for daring to express that view about Dublin.  ::)

Hear hear, good post. It won't be appreciated by the delusional though.  :D ::)
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« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2020, 09:56:18 PM »


Ireland a great country
And the people are great
Most people in the WORLD
Admire  us ;)
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« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2020, 11:02:38 PM »
With respect, grey marian, my request was not directed at you. I merely queried the ethics of a person who does business with people he clearly loathes.
Re your convoluted comment on people who live in Co. Wicklow, I do not feel competent to comment never having lived there and knowing very few people from there. However, it does appear a ludicrous generalisation with no basis whatsoever.

'Tis a public forum Mr Flanagan therefore there is no restriction on who can answer what and when.
Oh and Co Wicklow doesn't hold the monopoly on probing I found it widespread throughout the South. It just happened to be where I lived and first encountered it. :)

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« Reply #43 on: January 10, 2020, 12:19:05 AM »
Some people might be a wee bit sensitive to it. Others would call it just conversation. This type of conversation can be found in Antrim , Down, and even Belfast, and, as you said, Co, Wicklow doesn't hold a monopoly on it.
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Re: Belfast and Dublin
« Reply #44 on: January 10, 2020, 01:20:22 AM »
Thought it was a given Mr Flanagan, most would appreciate business owners go where they have to in order to maintain their companies interests and workers livelihoods and is none of OUR business on a public forum to know such details! True to form when I lived in Co wicklow most folk I learned rather quickly were as nosey as sin, almost amusing in their efforts to learn what income was achieved! The blatant ones who asked outright got a wide bearth on the social scene.
Pity people weren't more nosey earlier, with the RHI scheme.
Could have saved £500 million for Education and the Health service. 🙄
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