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poacher

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Help needed
« on: March 20, 2020, 07:51:49 PM »
Looking for the mothers name
of Annie Campbell born 1860s who married a James Mcculough at st matthews church on july 12th 1889 her address she was married from was 46 tennent street belfast and went to new zeland in the 1900s from the marrage cert her father was Joseph.

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Re: Help needed
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2020, 11:09:13 AM »
Her mother's forename was Eliza, I do not know her mother's maiden name. As proof, note the following sequence:

1. On 19 July 1890, James McCullough and Annie Campbell had a son Robert, their address was 42 Geoffrey Street:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02422/1902291.pdf

2. On 29 December 1893, James McCullough and Ann Eliza Campbell had a son James, their address was 42 Geoffrey Street:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1894/02275/1854501.pdf

In between those 2 births, the death occurred on 2 January 1891 of Eliza Campbell, the 58 year old widow of Joseph Campbell, labourer, the death occurred at 42 Geoffrey Street and the informant present at death was Annie McCullough, daughter, of same address:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1891/06083/4735397.pdf

By the way, I have reason to suspect that Annie (Campbell) McCullough had a brother Joseph Campbell, I can provide more detail if needed.

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Re: Help needed
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2020, 02:09:16 PM »
Thankyou CMcG
 Anymore  info you have would be great
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Re: Help needed
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2020, 01:58:33 AM »

...By the way, I have reason to suspect that Annie (Campbell) McCullough had a brother Joseph Campbell, I can provide more detail if needed.


You can make your own mind up, but the reason I suspect this is as follows:

As you know, Annie Campbell's address when she married James McCullough on 12 July 1889 was 46 Tennant Street. Just 4 months prior to that, a daughter named Annie was born to parents Joseph Campbell and Charlotte Pratt at exactly the same address:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1889/02488/1923192.pdf

The parents of that child were married in May of the previous year, Joseph Campbell's father was recorded as Joseph Campbell a labourer, note the groom's address of 41 'Jeffrey' Street:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1888/10764/5925488.pdf

The 1887 Belfast street directory shows the following entry for 41 Geoffrey Street: Campbell, Mrs. Eliza

Note also that for the next child that Joseph Campbell and Charlotte Pratt had after Annie, ie. Elizabeth on 17 January 1891, their address was 44 Geoffrey Street and the informant was... one Annie McCullough of 42 Geoffrey Street:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1891/02402/1895825.pdf
 
And that pattern of James and Annie (Campbell) McCullough of 42 Geoffrey Street living next door to Joseph and Charlotte (Pratt) Campbell at 44 Geoffrey Street is borne out by several other records, eg:

- the birth of a son Robert McCullough at 42 Geoffrey Street to parents James McCullough and Ann Eliza Campbell on 19 July 1890;
- the birth of a son Joseph McCullough at 42 Geoffrey Street to parents James McCullough and Ann Eliza Campbell on 15 March 1892;
- the birth of a son Joseph Campbell at 44 Geoffrey Street to parents Joseph Campbell and Charlotte Pratt on 1 November 1892;
- the birth of a son James McCullough at 42 Geoffrey Street to parents James McCullough and Annie Campbell on 29 December 1893.

The 1892 Belfast street directory shows the following entries for Geoffrey Street:

42 McCullough, J., bundler
44 Campbell, Charlotte

So no smoking gun, but enough to surmise that Joseph Campbell may be the sister of Annie McCullough and son of Eliza (of 41 Geoffrey Street in the 1887 directory listing).

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Re: Help needed
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2020, 02:19:33 AM »
From what I can tell, Joseph and Charlotte (Pratt) Campbell moved to Woodburn near Carrickfergus after the birth of their son Joseph in 1892, for I can see childrens' births there including Mary Jane in 1894, Robert in 1897, Maggie in 1899, Charlotte in 1901, and Annie in 1903.  This looks like it could be them in 1901, although the couples' ages are clearly understated by quite a bit:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Carrickfergus_Rural/Middle_Division/991759/

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Re: Help needed
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2020, 06:43:34 AM »
Thats greatt CMcG
You should have been a detective
I found it very hard to find anything about the campbell side of my family past my grandfather Thomas
Once again Thankyou