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seanog

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Rooney Banbridge
« on: May 05, 2020, 05:33:56 PM »
James Rooney was born in Scarva St Banbridge on 23rd August 1869.  His father was John Rooney and his mother was Anne Graham.
James emigrated to the States at a young age.

Looking for descendants presently living in and around Belfast.
Seanog.

JimG

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Re: Rooney Banbridge
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2020, 09:09:20 PM »

Ros Davies Co Down website http://www.rosdavies.com/SURNAMES/Afrontpage.htm has an entry confirming your information might be supplied by a John Rooney  IS THIS YOUR GOOD SELF ?
 
I assembled a draft tree from your info + Ros Davies+ https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ + www.familysearch.org   

1.unknown Rooney children
1.1. John Rooney   bbb 1853Seapatrick described as dealer in 1871   regd. Banbridge; m Anna/ Anne / Nancy Graham;
children
1.1.1. Bernard Rooney  b 23 Oct 1865 Banbridge source familysearch.org its possible this is his marriage from familysearch.orgbanbridge 1st qter Jan-Mar 1891
1.1.2. James Rooney b. 23 Aug 1869 Scarva St Banbridge informed by Father JR (this is the civil record not baptism left for Philadelphia USA  & married Mary Holton; died in 1923) do you have descendants?
1.1.3. Peter Rooney b. 13 Oct 1871 Scarva St Banbridge see https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1871/03277/2200760.pdf  this is the civil record not baptism ( joined the British Army) do you know more about army career I cant find correct entry at kew for medals etc
1.1.4.Eliza Rooney b. 1 Sep 1873 Scarva St Banbridge see
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1873/03188/2168957.pdf this is the civil record not baptism . Mother named nancy graham in familysearch
are you aware of more children

if you are to find descendants surely you need to track the descendants of Bernard, James, Peter, Eliza  Rooney plus any other  children. I think if you are relying on present descendants you might wait along time. I have spent some time and cant connect to an army record or to an entry in the irish census 1901 or 1911.

The best source seems to be surviving church records see PRONI downloadable church guide and http://www.rosdavies.com/CHURCHES/A-I.htm 

the next suggestion if not tried already is
Griffiths Valuation for Scarva street which in its infancy  is recorded here in 1863
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&PlaceID=398400&county=Down&barony=Iveagh,%20upper%20(upper%20half)&parish=Seapatrick&townland=Edenderry
no mention of the Rooney,

so moving to where the continuation or valuation revision books are on line up to past 1922
https://apps.proni.gov.uk/Val12B/Search.aspx
click on the first dates you will find missing page numbers have been worn off VAL/12/B/16/6A (1864 - 1874)
 so move to PRONI Reference: VAL/12/B/16/6B (1874 - 1884) Look up index page 2 and find Scarva St page 115 You will find Carva St entries show page 132 of 228 in digital numberingon page 146 of 228 is property number 99 Henry Rooney Scarva St ends on p148 of 228. you now roughly where it is and now go back to
VAL/12/B/16/6A (1864 - 1874) and start at page 169 of 286 for Scarva St it is Henry Rooney at Property 99 but is there another rooney in Scarva St?my eyes are giving up so please tell me the result
so who is Henry Rooney anyway?
goodluck

seanog

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Re: Rooney Banbridge
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2020, 05:11:12 AM »
I am not the John Rooney you mention.
A John Rooney emailed me last week for help and I tried to find a guidance platform for him to work on.
You have been more than generous with your time.
I will forward your info to him which is more than he could have expected.
well done.
Seanog

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Re: Rooney Banbridge
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2020, 09:05:54 AM »
thank you for that surprising answer and hopefully he joins the topic himself, replies, and finds more solutions forthcoming on the Belfast Forum

seanog

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Re: Rooney Banbridge
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2020, 01:46:49 PM »
In the Ballymena Weekly Telegraph for Sat 27th Sept 1924 and in at least three other newspapers Mr Bernard Rooney (formerly of Banbridge) and then residing at No 19 Upper Library St, Belfast sought the where-abouts of James Rooney who left Banbridge for Philadelphia in August 1886.
Bernard could be James's brother b 1865, aged then around 60.

Hoping to find an obituary for Bernard.
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seanog

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Re: Rooney Banbridge
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2020, 07:46:50 AM »
19 Upper Library St is descried as a lodging house in street directories.
Church and civil registers record – John Rooney had brother named Bernard b 23 Oct 1865.
Therefore in 1924 he was aged around 60.
Civil records marriage 1891:  Bernard Rooney, Scarva St Banbridge (full age) married Mary Monaghan aged 20 in Catholic church Banbridge.
1911 Census – County Antrim:
Residents of a house 1.1 Carrickhill Court Belfast:
Bernard Rooney aged 45
Mary Rooney aged 38
John Joe Rooney age 9
James Rooney aged 6
Anne Rooney aged 2
This residence was in the parish of St Patrick’s Donegall St.
The children would have attended the local primary school.
 
Also in the parish of St Patricks and mentioned in the street registers:
1910 Bernard Rooney, postman, 149 New Lodge Road.
1918 Bernard Rooney, postal clerk, 94 Hanover St.
1932 B Rooney post office official, 15 Glantane St.

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Re: Rooney Banbridge
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2020, 09:11:10 PM »
Greetings All,

I am the John Rooney that has been inquiring about Bernard & the other Rooneys from Seapatrick & Banbridge.
I am great grandson of James P Rooney (baptized 23 Aug 1869) in Seapatrick.
I am located in Morrisville, Pennsylvania, USA.