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Tricia186

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Finding a date of death
« on: June 26, 2020, 05:40:55 PM »
Is it at all possible to find a date of death, within a time span, with only knowing the person's date of birth and obviously their name?

Elwyn

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Re: Finding a date of death
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2020, 11:03:19 PM »
     Assuming your enquiry is for Northern Ireland, you can search death records from 1864 to 1970 on-line. Those from 1970 onwards are also accessible to the public but not on-line. You have to either go into PRONI or contact GRONI in Belfast to find them. (Neither is open at the moment).
 
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JimG

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Re: Finding a date of death
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2020, 02:16:46 PM »

have you examined the 40 entries on this website search engine, see top rh corner rectangle marked search.  I did this last and it makes my contribution amost nil . I did note someone looking for a Mary Smyth in the drive .
I went to street directories
https://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/hcomplete1951.htm has entry No 90 Mrs Mary Smith https://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/hcomplete1943.htm has no entries for Highfield Drive
https://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/hcomplete1932.htm has no entries for Highfield Drive
it might be that the Belfast city boundary didn’t extend as far as the Highfield clump of post war?  streets which locate on the south side of the top of the Ballygomartin road the drive runs nearly into the top of the Springfield road .  Southwards is the Belfast city cemetery and almost neighbors the next cemetery southwards is Millfield cemetery

so I went looking for date of death by burial date eg
Belfast city cemetery  http://www.belfastcity.gov.uk/community/burialrecords/burialrecords.aspx has 133 Mary Smith entries . I narrrowed the search by inserting Highfield Drive but that was unknown in the 133 entries so the 1951 Mrs Smith either moved or is the wrong person.  so do try your name in this good search engine.  that comes nearly upto date

Millfield cemetery http://ww7.milltowncemetery.com/?r=&gc=pid-bodis-gcontrol112&query=Cemetery%20Burial%20Records&afdToken=3B1gtSj8OZKGzEeIwvTMeX-1vI8F3mkU9bLurX94zTXN-_jsi-B1IazgrsFsdoPAY3LYJFD9Xiun_cgAv8YEewqCwXJUMv-_a9B4pQ_FEQ
doesn’t have an index heading for last residence. it has its own website try I normally use https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ which for deaths closes on 1969

finally I used google maps search for Highfield Drive Belfast  enlarge the map fully so you can click on the street. a street scene should open, running from the south the even numbers are in the left hand side going upwards past the green space the next block of houses ending at No 86 there is a lane between the blocks of houses with car [censored] ,  the first of another short run of houses is no 88 so the next house is no 90 it is till there or the drive has been renumbered   it took me 25 minutes to find.  my google map ref was street scene at https://www.google.com/maps/place/68+Highfield+Dr,+Belfast+BT13+3RN/@54.6041859,-5.9756514,3a,15y,287.95h,86.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHIj0Uw8I8QnjlH-BzlPCRw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x48610879a963b397:0x3827b655581bc7fb!2sHighfield+Dr,+Belfast!3b1!8m2!3d54.6023697!4d-5.9755969!3m4!1s0x486108785500bc61:0x2e178638c3a33f88!8m2!3d54.602277!4d-5.9757324
 have fun good luck and welcome to the BF


Tricia186

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Re: Finding a date of death
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2020, 06:52:53 PM »
Thanks Jim. The Google Street map 90 Highfield Drive, do you think this would be a new build rather than from the mid 50's?

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Re: Finding a date of death
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2020, 06:56:00 PM »
     Assuming your enquiry is for Northern Ireland, you can search death records from 1864 to 1970 on-line. Those from 1970 onwards are also accessible to the public but not on-line. You have to either go into PRONI or contact GRONI in Belfast to find them. (Neither is open at the moment).

Thanks Elwyn, what online site would this be to search for a death in Nth Ireland, up until 1970?

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Re: Finding a date of death
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2020, 07:13:42 PM »
     For deaths 1878 to 1921 you can view certificates free on this site:
 
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
 
For deaths between 1864 and 1877, and 1922 to 1970 you can view the original certificates on-line on the GRONI website, using the “search registrations” option:
 
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk
 
You will need to open an account and buy some credits. It costs £2.50 (sterling) to a view a certificate.
 
For deaths 1970 onwards you need to either go to PRONI or GRONI in Belfast in person and search there (when they are open, post COVID) or you can contact GRONI and pay them to search for you. Contact details for ringing or e-mailing GRONI:
 
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/contacts/contacts-az/general-register-office-northern-ireland
 
GRONI are the only body with death records for Northern Ireland 1922 onwards, so you have no alternative but to use them.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Finding a date of death
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2020, 11:18:48 PM »
quote  "do you think this would be a new build rather than from the mid 50's?"
 i cant tell but they remind me of just pre ww2 houses in England, when i worked for 6 weeks in digs in romford area.. my opinion is they could be just post ww2 .
double glazing didnt register with me. Sunken flat postboxes on the front door surrounds,
where several of the houses have 2 or 3 flats, made me think post 1950s
Some resident will sooner or later tell you
 
did you try your name at belfast city crematorium?
keep going JimG