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tours

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Sex offender/Glentoran.
« on: September 17, 2020, 11:33:29 AM »
I see the sex registered offender has signed for Glentoran FC. 👀🙄
Donnelly looks quite smug with himself in the media photos.  🤨🧐
He and the Glens are taking quite a bit of flack on social media.
Should he be allowed to get on with his life or is the abuse he is getting justified?
His actions where reprehensible, sick and evil, at the time.  

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Re: Sex offender/Glentoran.
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2020, 09:15:10 PM »
I am sure he regrets his actions. I am sure the girl regrets letting him take pictures. But perhaps he has paid for his sin?
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Re: Sex offender/Glentoran.
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2020, 12:42:37 AM »
I am sure he regrets his actions. I am sure the girl regrets letting him take pictures. But perhaps he has paid for his sin?
I'm not totally white myself.
Many things I have regretted in my younger years.
Yet what he did, seems crude in the least and evil at the worse.
I hope he reflects as I'm sure he does, at the crassness and pure hurtful actions.
I would be deeply embarrassed if he was my son, and wonder where my moral compass went astray.
He will have to live with the tarnish of his actions for a very long time.
Religious or not, most peoples moral compass would castigate such actions.
However, in these darkened times, more aspects of evil are becoming acceptable. How sad.
Let's hope he eats a little more humble pie....in fact, the whole pie.

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Re: Sex offender/Glentoran.
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2020, 02:25:15 PM »
Although I disagree with his actions,there are plenty of unrepentant jailbirds on our streets who seem to have been given a second(and third and fourth)chance.Just look at our Executive.
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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2020, 07:00:11 PM »
Although I disagree with his actions,there are plenty of unrepentant jailbirds on our streets who seem to have been given a second(and third and fourth)chance.Just look at our Executive.

Agree 100%, but I think the Glens will regret signing the perverted player.  :)

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Re: Sex offender/Glentoran.
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2020, 07:52:02 PM »
I see the sex registered offender has signed for Glentoran FC. 👀🙄
Donnelly looks quite smug with himself in the media photos.  🤨🧐
He and the Glens are taking quite a bit of flack on social media.
Should he be allowed to get on with his life or is the abuse he is getting justified?
His actions where reprehensible, sick and evil, at the time.

You ought to have explained what he did and given some kind of background details to a story which is highly inflammatory, Tours.

I guess it's left to me, who doesn't live in N. Ireland, to explain the background ( as best I know it). There might be errors and I am happy to be corrected.

Jay Donnelly was a footballer for Cliftonville FC. Aged 21 he had consensual and legal sex with a 16yr old. During the course of this encounter, he filmed them having sex without permission ( use your imagination) and put the footage into some group on the internet. He was subsequently sacked by Cliftonville FC, imprisoned and fully acknowledgedged what he did, expressing remorse. Glentoran FC have decided to give him a second chance.

First off, what he did, as he acknowledges, was sick and degrading. The girl involved will no doubt feel shame and humiliation for many years and quite possibly the rest of her life. There is no way of undoing that and he knows it. I would suggest what he did is not exactly uncommon these days, however shocking that might sound to the older generation, in particular. It's not like it was some 'dirty old man'. Porn has almost been normalised in youth culture and literally tens of thousands of women will have been filmed without their consent under these circumstances by men using their phones, especially by young men barely out of their teens, like Donnelly. I daresay if mobile phone cameras had been around 50 years ago, or 100 yrs ago, there would be a hell of a lot more culprits and victims. Back in the day, most boys at some stage of their growing up delighted in the thrills of 'the nudey book'. I certainly did. Times have moved on a bit and the old dirty books are obselete now, but lets not get too carried away here. They're only obsolete because porn is a massive online industry. What he did was a very bad error of judgement for which he has apologised and I fully accept that that is hardly any consolation to the girl involved but at the same time he admitted what he did, he apologised and served his prison sentence. Like any other released prisoner, he should be encouraged to re-integrate and make best use of his talents. It is a brave move by Glentoran FC to sign him up although I'm not sure how wise it will prove once fans start re-entering the grounds again, albeit there is no sign of that happening this season.

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Re: Sex offender/Glentoran.
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2020, 01:45:09 AM »
Although I disagree with his actions,there are plenty of unrepentant jailbirds on our streets who seem to have been given a second(and third and fourth)chance.Just look at our Executive.
Unrepentant indeed.   ;)

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Re: Sex offender/Glentoran.
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2020, 02:32:47 AM »
You ought to have explained what he did and given some kind of background details to a story which is highly inflammatory, Tours.

I guess it's left to me, who doesn't live in N. Ireland, to explain the background ( as best I know it). There might be errors and I am happy to be corrected.

Jay Donnelly was a footballer for Cliftonville FC. Aged 21 he had consensual and legal sex with a 16yr old. During the course of this encounter, he filmed them having sex without permission ( use your imagination) and put the footage into some group on the internet. He was subsequently sacked by Cliftonville FC, imprisoned and fully acknowledgedged what he did, expressing remorse. Glentoran FC have decided to give him a second chance.

First off, what he did, as he acknowledges, was sick and degrading. The girl involved will no doubt feel shame and humiliation for many years and quite possibly the rest of her life. There is no way of undoing that and he knows it. I would suggest what he did is not exactly uncommon these days, however shocking that might sound to the older generation, in particular. It's not like it was some 'dirty old man'. Porn has almost been normalised in youth culture and literally tens of thousands of women will have been filmed without their consent under these circumstances by men using their phones, especially by young men barely out of their teens, like Donnelly. I daresay if mobile phone cameras had been around 50 years ago, or 100 yrs ago, there would be a hell of a lot more culprits and victims. Back in the day, most boys at some stage of their growing up delighted in the thrills of 'the nudey book'. I certainly did. Times have moved on a bit and the old dirty books are obselete now, but lets not get too carried away here. They're only obsolete because porn is a massive online industry. What he did was a very bad error of judgement for which he has apologised and I fully accept that that is hardly any consolation to the girl involved but at the same time he admitted what he did, he apologised and served his prison sentence. Like any other released prisoner, he should be encouraged to re-integrate and make best use of his talents. It is a brave move by Glentoran FC to sign him up although I'm not sure how wise it will prove once fans start re-entering the grounds again, albeit there is no sign of that happening this season.
Ponography in itself is evil, and at the most is directed towards women. Those partaking in it, harming themselves.
It (pornography) dehumanises and attempts to lessen true Love.
It (ponography) turns the woman into a Male gratification, and nothing else.
Its shallow and demeaning.
As far as Jay Donnelly in concerned, the fall out will live with him the rest of his life.
Evil always has a deeply negative life changing outcome.
That's why its evil, whether you believe in God or not.
It's simply wrong.
Big evil, as he carried out, has bigger repercussions. .simple.
I'm pretty sure, right being right, his mother and father are ashamed by him but stand by him.
That's all we can ask.
Unless the Mother and Fathers moral values led to the evil act?
The parents know themselves, deep down...


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Re: Sex offender/Glentoran.
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2020, 02:02:50 AM »
What he did was totally reprehensible and I'm sure that he regards it as worst mistake of his life but at his young age maybe he deserves a second chance. His act of crass stupidity should not be allowed to destroy his life.

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Re: Sex offender/Glentoran.
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2020, 03:21:24 AM »
What he did was totally reprehensible and I'm sure that he regards it as worst mistake of his life but at his young age maybe he deserves a second chance. His act of crass stupidity should not be allowed to destroy his life.
I wonder what the young girl thinks today?
I would probably understand things a little better.
Though, as you say, we all deserve a second chance. As long as his remorse is genuine...

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Re: Sex offender/Glentoran.
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2020, 09:53:12 AM »
What he did was totally reprehensible and I'm sure that he regards it as worst mistake of his life but at his young age maybe he deserves a second chance. His act of crass stupidity should not be allowed to destroy his life.

Agreed. Any teachers on this board know that sharing naked selfies is rife among young people - all of whom regret it afterwards.
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Re: Sex offender/Glentoran.
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2020, 10:27:30 AM »
It wasn't a selfie he took. He also photographed a child in his perverted post.  >:D

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Re: Sex offender/Glentoran.
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2020, 10:49:56 AM »
Why would teachers know what's on a students phone?
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Re: Sex offender/Glentoran.
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2020, 11:52:07 AM »
And why didnít the rugby players get shown the same leniency?they had to leave their own country to continue playing amid uproar from various organisations,pity the same people didnít vent their anger at the oval on Friday night!!!

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Re: Sex offender/Glentoran.
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2020, 12:27:48 PM »
And why didnít the rugby players get shown the same leniency?they had to leave their own country to continue playing amid uproar from various organisations,pity the same people didnít vent their anger at the oval on Friday night!!!

Good point Number 26.  I don't know much about the footballers case I was confused when I first read about it because he girl was aged sixteen and was therefore old enough - in law - to consent to sex.  But - as far as I am aware -  she is still legally a child in respect of the criminal offence of the showing of sexual images.

Just my personal opinion but I think the guy concerned is a real cad to betray the intimate relationship he had with this girl.  He might have served his time for the offence but in this digital age those pictures are still out there - they could reappear online in twenty years time when the girl is happily married with children.
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