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Title: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Christopher on July 27, 2006, 01:43:09 AM
I'm sure some of you will be interested in a Project that too place between
a group of young people from the Short Strand  (http://www.bytes.org/html/Short%20Strand/My%20Webs/short_strand.htm) and a group from Tullycarnett. 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BLOOMFIELD on July 27, 2006, 05:19:18 AM
Christopher

On the surface this all sounds good, BUT

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Condoms provide the safest protection against STI’s if used properly.

How is this going to be percieved, and recieved, by most of the Roman Catholic community, and some of the Protestant community.

Or have attitudes towards Condoms changed since I left Ireland. ???

One of our Famous Premiers, Pierre Elliott Trudeau, made this statement in Parliament  "the Government has no place in the bedrooms "  you could also say the same for Religion.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Christopher on July 27, 2006, 06:19:40 AM
This article about  the Christian Brothers  (http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=20230) in Ireland may interest you Bloomfield.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BLOOMFIELD on July 27, 2006, 07:20:26 AM
Christopher

ALL religion leaves me cold.

More deaths and misery has been committed  " in the name of religion" than any other cause.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on July 27, 2006, 09:52:40 PM
Christopher

ALL religion leaves me cold.

More deaths and misery has been committed  " in the name of religion" than any other cause.

religion wasnt at fault m8. it was people using religion as a scap goat for to go to war.
one god, 10 commandments. hardly an excuse for war !!!!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BLOOMFIELD on July 27, 2006, 10:55:02 PM
olelad

RE-read my post, note the part in BOLD

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More deaths and misery has been committed  " in the name of religion" than any other cause.


There is nothing wrong with "most" religions, it's the [censored] that believe in, and twist it, that causes the problems.
Especially the ones who believe that the others who do not believe as they do, will "BURN IN HELL".
What a bunch of nutters.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: ulsterstan on July 27, 2006, 11:34:50 PM
Religion is man made excuses for their way to God , The bible is the inspired word of God  ,read it and  then be directed as to how it  teaches . There is no one religion mentioned in the bible . I'm thankful for at least one thing each day I wake up ,breath, means He's given me another day to live . We don't answer for religions we all have a choice  believe in God or don't.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on July 29, 2006, 10:28:00 AM
Religion is man made excuses for their way to God , The bible is the inspired word of God  ,read it and  then be directed as to how it  teaches . There is no one religion mentioned in the bible . I'm thankful for at least one thing each day I wake up ,breath, means He's given me another day to live . We don't answer for religions we all have a choice  believe in God or don't.

sounds good.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on July 29, 2006, 10:31:26 AM
just to get back to the short strand. anyone remember the short strand the way it used to be ? b4 it was rebuilt. spend many aday playing around it as some of my m8 from school came from down there. streets i remember was thompson st, anderson st, clyde st, beechfield st, woodstock st. alot of folk from there moved to downpatrick and over to twinbrook around the years between 1972 and 1974. plenty went to craigavon as well.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: maggiemay on July 29, 2006, 11:33:35 AM
Yes,I rememger Short Strand before redevelopment.I worked there for 13 years.Some of the happiest days of my life!.Great,generous people!!!
Still visit sometimes.the redevelopment work started whilst I worked there.It's so changed.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: craigyroo on July 29, 2006, 07:33:58 PM
when i look at the short strand it reminds me of that Elvis song. .. in the ghetto!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on July 30, 2006, 09:59:19 PM
Yes,I rememger Short Strand before redevelopment.I worked there for 13 years.Some of the happiest days of my life!.Great,generous people!!!
Still visit sometimes.the redevelopment work started whilst I worked there.It's so changed.

when did the redevelopment start there ? as i said lots of folk from the strand moved out between the years 72/75 while others were more than glad to move in. belfast was like that back then !
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: maggiemay on July 30, 2006, 10:04:38 PM
I think the redevelopment started around early 1980s
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on July 30, 2006, 11:06:52 PM
I think the redevelopment started around early 1980s

cheers.
 just out of interest, did you ever hear why so many from there moved down to downpatrick ??
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: maggiemay on July 30, 2006, 11:14:02 PM
Don't really knoe but I know a lot of them did before I srarted working there.I suppose they moved to be with family who already moved to Downpatrick
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on July 31, 2006, 05:28:46 PM
Don't really knoe but I know a lot of them did before I srarted working there.I suppose they moved to be with family who already moved to Downpatrick

probably was.
quite big in numbers the amount who did move there.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Christopher on August 16, 2006, 03:07:03 PM
I had a friend called Eileen Carrick who had a wee wool shop at the Newtownards Road of Short Strand. Eileen had worked in the upholstery department at Harland and Wolff with her husband Jack. Eileen and Jack lived off the Donegall Road. Her sister Pat McLarnon lived on the Upper Newtownards Road near where I lived. Eileen's Dad (surname Bailie .. he may also have been called Jack) was blind. He was a good pianist and played in the Royal Avenue Hotel. Pat had a Jaguar with a personalised plate PAT   Her husband was a diesel fitter. I think he sold cars somewhere on the Albertbridge Road.

Another person I knew was Bernie who lived in one of the streets in Short Strand. Bernie's Dad was a boxer. When I met her she worked at the Glenmachan Towers Hotel. She had previously worked in Robinson and Cleaver's restaurant.  Jenny Nelson, Brian Steenson's girl friend at the time, also worked at the Glenmachan Towers which belonged to the Ulster Wine Company. The manager at the hotel was a Scots guy called Craig Young who had previously worked in the Grand Central Hotel in Donegall Place.

Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BLOOMFIELD on August 16, 2006, 06:31:58 PM
Christopher

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Eileen had worked in the upholstery department at Harland and Wolff with her husband Jack.

Do you mean the English company called Heaton Tabs (I think that is what it was called )

My Mother used to work there----- that was a BIG problem in our family, my Father did not want his wife working !! Our next door neighbour was a big Boss in the Shipyard, and got the job for my Mother ;D

The job almost ruined my Mother's health, they always seemed to have rush jobs, my Mother was almost " on call ", double shifts, taxis arriving to pick her up at night and bring her home again in the early hours of the morning etc,.

The money was really good, she earned much more than my Father who was a foreman in Shorts, I think that [censored] my Father off ;D ;D
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Christopher on August 16, 2006, 07:02:14 PM
As far as I recall only Harland and Wolff was mentioned.
I did not realise there were different subcontractors involved.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BLOOMFIELD on August 16, 2006, 08:24:54 PM
I think Heaton Tabb & Co. was headquartered in Southhampton.

They did all the ships soft furnishings, cushions, curtains, drapes, carpets, rugs.

I can remember 2 of the ships she worked on

Reina Del Mar
Reina Del Pacifico.

They wanted her to go over to England, in a Supervisory position, I don't think my Father would have allowed that :D

I have been reading my book "Shipbuilders to the World"-----125 years of Harland and Wolff Belfast 1861 - 1986.

Apparently Heaton's was a wholly owned subsidiery of Harland & Wolff, and was sold back to Ashby Tabb Limited in 1963 for 199,250 GBP.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Christopher on August 16, 2006, 09:15:47 PM
The company for whom your wife worked sound more like interior designers, Bloomfield.
Upholsterers are slightly different. Upholstery is the work of providing furniture, especially seats with padding, springs, webbing, and fabric or leather covers.
Top of the market house furnishers tend to have upholstery departments.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BLOOMFIELD on August 17, 2006, 07:09:19 PM
The Company did do interior design, but they also (for the Shipyard anyway ) machined the drapes, edged the carpet remnants to make rugs and place mats, made cushins for the furniture.etc.,
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: cos on August 21, 2006, 02:16:18 PM
Craigyroo,You obviously didn`t look too closely at the Short Strand if you see it as a ghetto.I work there as a teacher  in a beautiful modern school with a lovely nursery unit.The people there ,apart from a few streets,live in very nice modern houses and there is a modern community centre,youth club and the Bryson community enterprise building.The people there dress well ,the majority of them work for a living and they treat people with respect who treat them with respect.So take another look and forget the Elvis song!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Christopher on August 21, 2006, 02:30:27 PM
You take another look and tell me where I referred to Short Strand as a ghetto cos. I rarely call places ghettos. Many thanks Christopher
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: cos on August 21, 2006, 02:38:40 PM
when i look at the short strand it reminds me of that Elvis song. .. in the ghetto!!!!!!!

Hello Christopher,I never mentioned you ! I was referring to the above post.Cos
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Christopher on August 21, 2006, 03:09:41 PM
when i look at the short strand it reminds me of that Elvis song. .. in the ghetto!!!!!!!

Hello Christopher,I never mentioned you ! I was referring to the above post.Cos

Sorry cos. Didn't take it in properly. Maybe I should wear specs :D Either that or learn to read :D
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: kaz35 on September 09, 2006, 09:04:10 PM
would anyone have or know where to get pictures of short strand before it was developed
     many thanks    kaz
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: cos on September 09, 2006, 10:16:23 PM
hello Kaz,a good bet for Short Strand photos would be Short Strander Frankie Quinn who has a photographic exhibition in Conway Mill all next week.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: kaz35 on September 09, 2006, 10:20:08 PM
many thanks cos, will see if i can get a race down from b/castle to have a look.
  kaz   :)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Christopher on December 23, 2007, 02:31:46 AM
Hi Kaz,

Did you get down from Ballycastle to see Frankie Quinn's photographic exhibition?

Christopher
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Aidan on July 07, 2008, 04:16:57 PM
My Granny lived in Sherrif ST and my Anutie lived in Seaforde St, I boxed at St Mathews , anyone want to chat?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: maggiemay on July 07, 2008, 04:35:06 PM
Hi Aiden
As i said in an earlier posting ,I worked as an insurance agent in Short Strand for thirteen years and loved every minute of it.
In the bus this morning I was talking to a lady who was from there,name of Gargan from Clyde Street.
What was your granny's name?
Magiemay
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on July 10, 2008, 10:41:55 AM
Hi Aiden
As i said in an earlier posting ,I worked as an insurance agent in Short Strand for thirteen years and loved every minute of it.
In the bus this morning I was talking to a lady who was from there,name of Gargan from Clyde Street.
What was your granny's name?
Magiemay

funny enough but i was talking to a bloke called pat bates yesterday (lives in craigavon now) but who used to live in clyde street.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Aidan on July 13, 2008, 06:23:03 AM
Hi Aiden
As i said in an earlier posting ,I worked as an insurance agent in Short Strand for thirteen years and loved every minute of it.
In the bus this morning I was talking to a lady who was from there,name of Gargan from Clyde Street.
What was your granny's name?
Magiemay

Maggiemay,  My grannys namae was Mary Prince
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Margana on July 13, 2008, 07:47:39 PM
cheers.
 just out of interest, did you ever hear why so many from there moved down to downpatrick ??

In the early 70's there were new housing estates being built in Downpatrick, Craigavon and Antrim.
Housing Executive tenants were offered these and because the Troubles were so bad in Belfast as well as the houses, a lot of people to the chance for a new house in a (hopefully) peaceful area.
I know quite a few Belfast families in Downpatrick.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on July 13, 2008, 11:55:34 PM
In the early 70's there were new housing estates being built in Downpatrick, Craigavon and Antrim.
Housing Executive tenants were offered these and because the Troubles were so bad in Belfast as well as the houses, a lot of people to the chance for a new house in a (hopefully) peaceful area.
I know quite a few Belfast families in Downpatrick.

downpatrick was the most popular place for short strand folk closely followed by craigavon.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: maggiemay on July 18, 2008, 06:27:43 PM
Hi Aiden
Did your granny move to Sheriff St.There was a Mrs Prince who lived there
Maggie
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: rinty on July 18, 2008, 07:38:42 PM
we lived in kilmood st and they were great times we had a great street education and could make enough money from chopping sticks, collecting lemonade and beer bottles round the entry and running to the shop for messages we only needed enough to get one person in to the picture drome the plan being once the lights went out for the picture to start the exit door was opened in mountpottiger entry and the rest of the gang rushed in and scattered around the seats picking used tickets from the floor which when chewed could not be checked  by the ticket collector and so if the picture was good it would watched in silence and re-inacted on the way home if the picture was bad  we would run across the front of the screen which seen you dragged to the door and out into the daylight to the cheers of everyone left between ;) ;)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: rinty on July 18, 2008, 08:00:40 PM
hi maggiemay do you rember mr crilly he was in insurance and collected fri nights i think he did standard cheque and to us kids was like a magician with his wallet which turned inside out when a note was inserted :) :)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: maggiemay on July 19, 2008, 03:06:57 PM
Yes,Rinty
I remember him well.Lovely man
Maggie
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: teragram on July 19, 2008, 03:44:53 PM
Anybody know people called Young in Altcar St at the begining of the 70s?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BLOOMFIELD on July 19, 2008, 10:46:27 PM
MAGGIE MAY

Did you know the STITT family from Seaforde St. ???
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: maggiemay on July 20, 2008, 10:43:25 AM
Hi Bloomfield
Yes I did know the Stitts.I knew most people in the Strand
Maggie
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: rinty on July 20, 2008, 05:18:35 PM
maggie may do you know of the monaghans that lived in kilmood street
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BLOOMFIELD on July 20, 2008, 08:11:50 PM
Maggiemay

I worked with Marie ( lovely big tall red head ) in SHORTS.

She seemed to be a very happy person, I danced with her most Saturday

 nights in Mlianos in Banger.

The last I heard of her, was that she was living in England.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on July 27, 2008, 09:04:49 PM
anyone remember paul gracey beechfield st ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: MOONDOG on July 31, 2008, 08:36:12 PM
ANY  ONE  REMEMBER  THE KELLY FAMILY  @37 SHORT STRAND
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: paddymacgoillabhrighe on August 01, 2008, 08:25:37 PM
my mas family was from the short strand, aaron st,  Reynolds. and have relatitives there murphies from thompson st/ edgar st
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: som on August 05, 2008, 02:20:56 PM
Didn't live on the Strand but was there a lot during 1971/72 before I left Ireland. I was in the Order of Mallta. The images and faces are still vivid but unfortunately the names excape me. Only just found this site and it has been good to read everones messages in the various boards and a lot of the street names and people are coming back to me. Anyone remember the McCabes (Desi and John). Boxed at St. Matthews but I was crap at it - always got wacked on the neb and gushed everywhere. My brother was a good boxer (under Harry Enright) and all Ireland champion in his weight.
Sorry I won't be able to contribute much but it is really good to read your messages - hope you don't mind me eavesdropping.
Cheers.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: MOONDOG on August 05, 2008, 05:25:53 PM
harry one  good  guy  trained  som  champs. .that  was   som  statement
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: rinty on August 07, 2008, 09:29:56 PM
harry is still live and kicking i was talking to him on monday 4/8/08 at a funeral in ardglass were he lives  O0 O0
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: rinty on August 07, 2008, 09:37:12 PM
either nelly morgan or lily heaney were in the knights of malta in the stand and the ambulance used to be parked in seaforde st or lowry st  they were the days  ;D
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: MOONDOG on August 07, 2008, 11:44:25 PM
RINTY   DIDU LIVE  ON OR IN  STRAND
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: rinty on August 08, 2008, 10:13:43 AM
yes i lived in kilmood st  which was off seaforde st which really is ballymacacrret the short srtrand was a name used from the troubles 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: MOONDOG on August 08, 2008, 12:32:12 PM
my  wife  [kelly]  lived  beside  the old boneyard  on the strand
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: hmc on August 20, 2008, 10:57:11 PM
SOM,

McCabes - Desi & John or Dickie & John - greyhounds ??

HMC
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on August 21, 2008, 11:14:30 AM
seaforde st. agood m8 of mine came from there. sadly deceased. martin power.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: rinty on August 21, 2008, 07:39:17 PM
did martin live at the corner of comber st  i think the last i had heard he was living in craigavon im sorry to hear hes dead what age was martin you never think people who you grew up with as being old he would  have been a big lad when i was young i was 50 this year
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on August 22, 2008, 06:42:30 PM
did martin live at the corner of comber st  i think the last i had heard he was living in craigavon im sorry to hear hes dead what age was martin you never think people who you grew up with as being old he would  have been a big lad when i was young i was 50 this year

yes he was still living in craigavon. 53 i think he was when he died.
did you go to st augustines ? if you did we was probably at school together at the same time as i turned 50 this year also.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on August 24, 2008, 05:43:29 PM

yes he was still living in craigavon. 53 i think he was when he died. died feb 06 aged 53
did you go to st augustines ? if you did we was probably at school together at the same time as i turned 50 this year also.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: SHAZ on September 16, 2008, 04:58:58 PM
just to get back to the short strand. anyone remember the short strand the way it used to be ? b4 it was rebuilt. spend many aday playing around it as some of my m8 from school came from down there. streets i remember was thompson st, anderson st, clyde st, beechfield st, woodstock st. alot of folk from there moved to downpatrick and over to twinbrook around the years between 1972 and 1974. plenty went to craigavon as well.

father grew up in falcon street, his name james mc dowell, uncle charley mc dowell still lives in strand in beechfield street, used to live in sheriff street, would love to see any old pic people might have please. cheers
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: missy on September 17, 2008, 12:18:59 AM
Doing family history relatives from Ballymacarret Vulcan St. Beechfield St. Name of Magennis and Boyle and the Prices from Beechfield St. My grandfather James Magenis married Bridget Smith 1899 in St.
Mathews r.c. church. I know the year is far back but even if someone recognised the names. Also trying to find out were they came from originally. Many thanks

                        Missy
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: SHAZ on September 19, 2008, 01:40:10 PM
father grew up in falcon street, his name james mc dowell, uncle charley mc dowell still lives in strand in beechfield street, used to live in sheriff street, would love to see any old pic people might have please. cheers
[/quote                           Got some more info that might help people remember,   My father james mc dowell vulcan st his mothers name was Margaret Mc Dowell (nee Campbell) My fathers father was Robert Mc Dowell and his mother was Ena Mc Dowell. Think they originally from newtownards road.  appreicate any info. Cheers. O0 O0
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: missy on September 21, 2008, 11:11:54 PM
Hi Shaz Sorry I can not help you but we are still checking information. My grandmother lived in Sheriff St. until she was married Bridget Smith long time ago if we come across any thing that may help we will post it.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: GW on September 27, 2008, 05:00:27 PM
Missy,
My mum is Ann Boyle from Vulcan street.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: twila on October 08, 2008, 01:45:27 PM
hi missy, i have a friend here who remembers the prices from beechfield street.  joe price was her dads best friend.  her dads name was john mulhall he run the st matthews gym.  he had a brother finton who was headmaster of st anthonys willowfield, and his sister may, was the vice principal in st marys, castle street.  she remembers joe was always in their house which was directly facing beechfield street.  does anyone else remember the mulhallls.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: shannagh1 on October 08, 2008, 04:09:16 PM
I know Brendan Mulhall,he's over the other side of town now.
His son Brendan is a priest in Clonard.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on October 08, 2008, 07:56:12 PM
hi missy, i have a friend here who remembers the prices from beechfield street.  joe price was her dads best friend.  her dads name was john mulhall he run the st matthews gym.  he had a brother finton who was headmaster of st anthonys willowfield, and his sister may, was the vice principal in st marys, castle street.  she remembers joe was always in their house which was directly facing beechfield street.  does anyone else remember the mulhallls.

i remember vinty as he was known at st anthonys.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: shannagh1 on October 08, 2008, 08:21:15 PM
My wifes granny lived in Beechfield Street,Mrs George.
She had cousins there as well,Kellys and Clarkes.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: twila on October 10, 2008, 03:12:23 PM
thanks for that reply, im only new to this and am still trying to find my way round the site.  john mulhall has a son brendan who is now a priest.  there were two sets of twins in the mulhall family john and terry then peter, clare and patricia and then the other set of twins mairead and jeannie.  it is mairead who is a good friend of mine and visits once a week, she is not on line and i can't wait to show her the replys.  sadly none of the mulhalls live in the mountpottinger area anymore and have lost contact with old friends and neighbours.  but she loved looking at the site the day she was here.  hopefully when she is here next week she will be able to add some more info.  thanks again
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: shannagh1 on October 10, 2008, 04:15:17 PM
Hya twila.
Sorry but we're both wrong.
Peter Mulhall's son is Brendan the priest.
Brendans mother is one of the Mervyn's from Slate Street,Briege.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on October 10, 2008, 08:01:24 PM
beechfield st. paul gracey lived there. guy was in my class at st anthonys. think he moved up to twinbrook.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: MOONDOG on October 12, 2008, 08:36:55 PM
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj195/JESS65-2008/RSCN2101.jpg)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     JIM/GERALDINE/KITTY  KELLY  37.SHORT STRAND.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: maggiemay on October 13, 2008, 04:21:12 PM
Hi Moondog
Iremember the Kellys very well.They were my first call when I worked in Short Strand
.Lovely people
Maggie
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: twiggy on October 18, 2008, 12:32:04 AM
my grand parents lived on the old short strand...facing the bus depot...thought i posted on here earlier  .where's Fluff?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: fluff on October 18, 2008, 11:14:24 AM
strange so  did my grandparents, twig, i also worked out of the depot as i drove the buses. did you not get my other messages
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: twiggy on October 19, 2008, 11:12:10 PM
strange so  did my grandparents, twig, i also worked out of the depot as i drove the buses. did you not get my other messages
hi fluff. .yes got your message will try and get the info....fluff there was a photo in this years  callendar of the hamill family....
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: masser on October 19, 2008, 11:47:23 PM
Didn't live on the Strand but was there a lot during 1971/72 before I left Ireland. I was in the Order of Mallta. The images and faces are still vivid but unfortunately the names excape me. Only just found this site and it has been good to read everones messages in the various boards and a lot of the street names and people are coming back to me. Anyone remember the McCabes (Desi and John). Boxed at St. Matthews but I was crap at it - always got wacked on the neb and gushed everywhere. My brother was a good boxer (under Harry Enright) and all Ireland champion in his weight.
Sorry I won't be able to contribute much but it is really good to read your messages - hope you don't mind me eavesdropping.
Cheers.
Hi Som
I remember the mcabes, and k weir from the strand and lilly your oc...i and my wife was in the omac...
when u get a chance come back and say hi ok

 ;)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: masser on October 19, 2008, 11:48:31 PM
I know F Quinn done many a photo shoot with him and others during the troubles

he's a good photographer.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: masser on October 19, 2008, 11:49:43 PM
beechfield st. paul gracey lived there. guy was in my class at st anthonys. think he moved up to twinbrook.

Has paul a brother called Tony? Now dead a few yrs?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: fluff on October 20, 2008, 08:42:42 AM
i have the calendar had it sent over, tommy got one as well
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Sheriff St on October 20, 2008, 04:13:24 PM
Born in Sheriff St. Lived in Altcar St and Mountpottinger Rd.
Came to Canada in 1973
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on October 21, 2008, 06:28:20 PM
Has paul a brother called Tony? Now dead a few yrs?

not sure m8. think i heard he may have a sister but not sure about that either. he lived at the top end of beechfield st if memory serves me right !!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: willowfield on October 28, 2008, 07:57:18 PM
hi Rinty do you remember tapping your shoes across the floor when your da used to call you to get up in the morning or do you remember the ghost in Knockers house? Those were the good old days?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: kath on October 29, 2008, 08:09:23 PM
Hi Rinty,
Do you still live in the Short Strand? Wanted to know if you knew the Farrelly family of Seaforde Street? My granmother was Sarah Farrelly and my uncle Jimmy Farrelly who was well known in the area. Sadly both are deceased now, but my mothers cousins lived in Kilmood St.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jimmyo on November 17, 2008, 05:41:37 AM
First time to the Forum born in White Street Short Strand what a great place to spend my youth great memory's
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: fluff on November 17, 2008, 11:43:01 AM
jimmyo i knew a harry mc cusker a painter from white sreet served my time under him, did you know him. i am talking 40yrs ago
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: maggiemay on November 17, 2008, 03:35:50 PM
Does anyone remember Joe Boal who lived in Sherrif St.Be lived with his Aunt.He was a great friend of my fathers
Maggie
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jimmyo on November 17, 2008, 09:11:05 PM
Knew harry mc custer well I was friends with his son Harry
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Seadog on December 31, 2008, 03:53:39 PM
father grew up in falcon street, his name james mc dowell, uncle charley mc dowell still lives in strand in beechfield street, used to live in sheriff street, would love to see any old pic people might have please. cheers
Hi Shaz, I remember your father and uncle, my Da played in The Wheel Base with them :), Jim Logue.
I think you had a brother James? I lived in Seaford St before moving to Twinbrook and then Downpatrick.

Paul.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on February 07, 2009, 06:32:10 PM
I was born in 42 Thompson St. in 1955.Lived in The Strand until moving to Carrick in 1968.Now living in  New zealand.Great friends from back then include Gerald Morgan,Michael O'Donnell,John McMahon,Jackie Gartland (all from ThompsonSt).My brother Thomas and sister Lisa still live there.Both my parents Sena McGregor(nee McConvery)and father John/Jack/Jackie are dead.Great place to grow up. Nellie Morgan(mentioned in an earlier post)was Gerald's grannie.Looking back it was,pretty much, a ghetto but we knew no difference when we were growing up.Pa Hump(Mr.Hill) was headmaster and my favourite teacher was Frank McKeever.Any info on any of the above names would be ,greatly,appreciated.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on February 07, 2009, 06:41:20 PM
the McCullough's moved to Thompson st in 69. corner house witch was on the corner of  woodstock st ? moved to twinbrook i think.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Sheila A on February 07, 2009, 11:01:41 PM
Knew harry mc custer well I was friends with his son Harry
Jimmyo
Harry McCusker is my brother in law, his father died last year, he was in his 90's.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: stickyra on February 07, 2009, 11:06:04 PM
I was born in 42 Thompson St. in 1955.Lived in The Strand until moving to Carrick in 1968.Now living in  New zealand.Great friends from back then include Gerald Morgan,Michael O'Donnell,John McMahon,Jackie Gartland (all from ThompsonSt).My brother Thomas and sister Lisa still live there.Both my parents Sena McGregor(nee McConvery)and father John/Jack/Jackie are dead.Great place to grow up. Nellie Morgan(mentioned in an earlier post)was Gerald's grannie.Looking back it was,pretty much, a ghetto but we knew no difference when we were growing up.Pa Hump(Mr.Hill) was headmaster and my favourite teacher was Frank McKeever.Any info on any of the above names would be ,greatly,appreciated.

My ma came from 55 Thompson Street.  I remember it well.  They are all dead and gone now. I have no relatives left in the Strand. They were proud, upright people.  O0
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: patmccullogh on February 07, 2009, 11:32:11 PM
hi christoper i used to live in da short strand my da was the late keeler mccullogh  im pat
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: patmccullogh on February 07, 2009, 11:34:05 PM
the McCullough's moved to Thompson st in 69. corner house witch was on the corner of  woodstock st ? moved to twinbrook i think.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on February 08, 2009, 01:08:50 AM
One of the funniest things I have ever overhead was:- "You want to steer well clear of that place(Short Strand).They eat their young, them uns'" ;D I hadn't the heart to tell him that how come I came to be still living.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on February 08, 2009, 11:28:56 AM
hi christoper i used to live in da short strand my da was the late keeler mccullogh  im pat

have you a younger brother called thomas ? 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on February 08, 2009, 03:18:28 PM
I sure do. As far as I know he lives in Madrid St.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on February 08, 2009, 09:46:51 PM
I sure do. As far as I know he lives in Madrid St.

the McCullough's i knew lived in ardgowen st b4 moving to Thompson st. thomas and me were in the same class at st Anthony's
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: twiggy on February 21, 2009, 11:31:49 PM
i have the calendar had it sent over, tommy got one as well
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: okerf2691 on February 23, 2009, 06:42:25 PM
Hello Everyone
Im researching my family tree. I would like to find out about the Wilson family. They lived at 49 Mountpottinger Road in the Short Strand. My great great aunt was Sarah Wilson (Friel). She had sons Edward and William Wilson. Her sister Martha Friel also lived with them.  I found from St Matthews records that Sarah died in 1950, Martha 1947, and Edward in 1973, he was then living in Beechfield Street. I was just wondering did Edward and his wife Ann have any family. I know even 1973 is a long time ago but would like to hear from anyone who knew of this family.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on May 29, 2009, 08:36:48 AM
Frankie Quinn was mentioned earlier in this thread.He did,indeed,have an exhibition and there were photographs of Short Strand.They can be found here:-
http://www.frankiequinn.com/reviews.html (http://www.frankiequinn.com/reviews.html).

(http://www.frankiequinn.com/gallery/f/thumbs/c.jpg)

This;I believe is 42 Thompson St. where I was born. This is how it looked just before it was pulled down in 1985.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on May 30, 2009, 07:34:20 PM
(http://www.frankiequinn.com/gallery/e/full/p.jpg)

I'm sure that is Jackie Gartland in the middle.A very old mate of mine.
Anyone know anything about what he is doing ??
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: gerard on May 30, 2009, 10:01:40 PM
(http://www.frankiequinn.com/gallery/e/full/p.jpg)

I'm sure that is Jackie Gartland in the middle.A very old mate of mine.
Anyone know anything about what he is doing ??
i'm not a short strand man but that is Ambros Murdock in the middle along with Thomas Ross another market man and Christie Keenan from the market and the strand man ;) ;)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: 22may on June 03, 2009, 01:08:05 AM
THINK  THERE ACTING   THE GOAT
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on June 16, 2009, 12:57:04 AM
maggiemay did you know any of the may family from sheriff st
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Kateme on June 16, 2009, 02:01:31 AM
hi christoper i used to live in da short strand my da was the late keeler mccullogh  im pat
Was you father from Ardoyne?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: vespamum on June 16, 2009, 11:34:35 PM
just to get back to the short strand. anyone remember the short strand the way it used to be ? b4 it was rebuilt. spend many aday playing around it as some of my m8 from school came from down there. streets i remember was thompson st, anderson st, clyde st, beechfield st, woodstock st. alot of folk from there moved to downpatrick and over to twinbrook around the years between 1972 and 1974. plenty went to craigavon as well.
my friend deirdre  lived there , i used to come down from orangefield to visit her. it was sllightly dodgy in them times 1970's , but i didnt care they were very kind people
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: vespamum on June 16, 2009, 11:41:49 PM
forgot to say her name was deirdre bennett, i had a big crush on her brother michael ,  ::)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on June 17, 2009, 03:13:44 AM
Twila Lizzie Mulhall was my mothers friend and I was named after her. My name is Betty Ferguson and our family all lived in Altcar st
I now live in Canada since 1959 but I have great memories of that house on Mountpottinger Rd lots of fun Remember me to any of the
family
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Erincyprus on June 17, 2009, 04:12:23 AM
Does anyone remember Minty's Shop in Vulcan Street?

The owner taught myself and all my siblings to read the time using the cardboard that came between the cans of peas.  They left round circular dents and he used them as clock faces to teach us on Saturdays.

Erin.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on June 17, 2009, 11:29:42 PM
my friend deirdre  lived there , i used to come down from orangefield to visit her. it was sllightly dodgy in them times 1970's , but i didnt care they were very kind people

i knew plenty who went to orangefield school back then. as for the area never really got over that way to often.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: gerry m on June 29, 2009, 09:19:50 PM
maggiemay did you know any of the may family from sheriff st

my ma is karen may from sheriff st, my granda bobby may lived in lough lee
 my granny jean may past away last year
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: marketmade on June 30, 2009, 09:47:23 PM
(http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww226/marketmade/007.jpg)

Leo o neill RIP

from the short strand
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: spacetinker on July 07, 2009, 11:26:11 PM
(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/spacetinker/da83sm.jpg)

John Murray, outside his shop at the corner of Woodstock St. and Madrid St.  ...just before it was all knocked down. Lived all his life in the Short Strand.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on August 06, 2009, 05:34:19 PM

my ma is karen may from sheriff st, my granda bobby may lived in lough lee
 my granny jean may past away last year
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on August 06, 2009, 05:36:53 PM
HI gerry your grandfather is my twin brother
i am liveing in toronto
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: marketmade on August 06, 2009, 09:38:31 PM
(http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww226/marketmade/100_1302.jpg)]

the late Leo & Jean o neill
from the strand
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Rosiejoe on August 07, 2009, 02:10:28 PM
I went to St Matthews school from 1958 to 1962. I remember a sweetie shop (might have been Mintys in Vulcan St), he sold sherbid in cones made out of newspaper.  Although I didn't live in the Short Strand area my friends from school were Phyllis McGratton( they had a Green Grocer stall in the Market) and Eleanor Hunter (her father was the Doctor in Bryson St) Ann Marie Carroll and Joan Campbell.

Anyone else attended during these years?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on August 14, 2009, 03:19:42 PM

my ma is karen may from sheriff st, my granda bobby may lived in lough lee
 my granny jean may past away last year
hi gerry m waiting to hear from you
this is your mums uncle
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: noots123 on August 24, 2009, 07:28:34 PM
forgot to say her name was deirdre bennett, i had a big crush on her brother michael ,  ::)
    HI VESPA MUM JUST FOUND THIS SITE AND SAW YOUR MESSAGE I AM DEIRDRES SISTER  AND I TOLD HER ABOUT YOU I COULD,NT THINK WHO YOU WERE BUT SHE NEW RIGHT AWAY. KEEP IN TOUCH. NOOTS
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Tom Craig on August 26, 2009, 06:51:56 PM
the problem is that a lot of non changing small minded blinkered idiots , lost in a past that belfast does not want or support anymore .. these brain dead no hopers can only believe in as far as their intelegence allows and can not have the foresight to see and understand their actions , which says it all really...
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on August 27, 2009, 05:22:56 PM
the problem is that a lot of non changing small minded blinkered idiots , lost in a past that belfast does not want or support anymore .. these brain dead no hopers can only believe in as far as their intelegence allows and can not have the foresight to see and understand their actions , which says it all really...

Is that a better answer than  -    42 ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: vespamum on August 27, 2009, 09:42:56 PM
hiya noots i lived beside you at one time , and your mum and dad were great friends with my mum and stepdad, we had good laughs, just asked deirdre about time she cut my fringe , lets just say i was the first skingirl in Orangefield Girls, There was me , Carol , Judy , and the menace our wee brother Timothy. I hope your and yours are in good health. I have the fondest memory of your mum and dad , good , good people.  :)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: vespamum on August 27, 2009, 09:43:47 PM
whoops i take it this is Nuala  :D
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Jon B on August 29, 2009, 09:00:57 AM
 Found this on the Beeb.

 Its about John Joseph Gilmore from Lowry Street, first Irishman to make a parachute jump
 in Ireland.

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8226164.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8226164.stm)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: noots123 on August 31, 2009, 12:11:24 PM
whoops i take it this is Nuala  :D
INDEED IT IS WE ARE ALL WELL, WE ARE ALL GRANNIES AND GRANDAS NOW, IT WAS GREAT TO HEAR FROM YOU I GOOGLED OUR HOUSE IN SANDHILL IT WAS UP FOR SALE GOOD MEMORIES OF YOUR FAMILY UP THERE :)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: roy231 on September 06, 2009, 09:05:47 AM
anyone know the donnallys
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: KEEP on September 06, 2009, 09:22:24 AM
Hi great idea, I remember Tullycarnett being built and the Short Strand the way it used to be- good luck with the project, Elaine
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on October 16, 2009, 10:25:39 PM
Born in Sheriff St. Lived in Altcar St and Mountpottinger Rd.
Came to Canada in 1973
  I moved to Canada 1964
I was born #20 sheriff st what # were you born in
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: madness on October 17, 2009, 10:53:27 PM
I'm sure some of you will be interested in a Project that too place between
a group of young people from the Short Strand  (http://www.bytes.org/html/Short%20Strand/My%20Webs/short_strand.htm) and a group from Tullycarnett. 

it doesn't seem to be a cross community project. More a have a look at the slum we created and now we want money to clean it up so we can destroy it again.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mrs mourinho on October 17, 2009, 10:56:06 PM
  I moved to Canada 1964
I was born #20 sheriff st what # were you born in

my brother in law n sister in law margaret n geordie lived in sheriff street  ;)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: pussy-galore on October 17, 2009, 11:01:40 PM
it doesn't seem to be a cross community project. More a have a look at the slum we created and now we want money to clean it up so we can destroy it again.

Which?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: madness on October 17, 2009, 11:18:02 PM
the pictures of the graffiti on the walls. and why put a picture of graffiti saying that someone is still a child beater
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: pussy-galore on October 18, 2009, 12:13:53 AM
the pictures of the graffiti on the walls. and why put a picture of graffiti saying that someone is still a child beater

Where is it you're talking about?  ???
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: gismo on October 18, 2009, 12:26:01 AM
 i just cant thing why the wamted to move
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: gismo on October 18, 2009, 12:31:58 AM
good on u bloomfield it is the [censored] that tell others thyl burn in hell  if the dont listen to ther twited logic
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: madness on October 18, 2009, 01:26:09 PM
Where is it you're talking about?  ???

have a look at the pictures
 
http://www.bytes.org/html/Short%20Strand/My%20Webs/short_strand.htm

and it still does not represent cross community
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on October 18, 2009, 07:06:36 PM
have a look at the pictures
 
http://www.bytes.org/html/Short%20Strand/My%20Webs/short_strand.htm

and it still does not represent cross community

maybe not to you but to others maybe. time to give it a rest i say.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: madness on October 18, 2009, 07:49:11 PM

maybe not to you but to others maybe. time to give it a rest i say.

How can that represent cross community to anyone. Its just graffiti on the walls no murals to say we are moving on with cross community programes. No people from Tullycarnet estate only a few from the Short Strand with celtic tops on {that doesn't look like cross community]. Other pictures of in and around the Short Strand, were are the ones of Tullycarnet. No in my eyes this just represents that old Elvis number In The Ghetto. :( :o
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: archie m on October 26, 2009, 12:42:02 AM
THE SHORT STRAND IS THE BELFAST BRONX.:-D
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: ells on October 28, 2009, 12:23:42 AM
hi erin cyprus ,  remember  mintys shop well  my granny lived in saul street  we used to get the rations  every thursday  :)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: pussy-galore on October 28, 2009, 12:40:54 AM
have a look at the pictures
 
http://www.bytes.org/html/Short%20Strand/My%20Webs/short_strand.htm

and it still does not represent cross community

I don't understand any of that - where's the views of those from "the other side?"

Madness - are you from Tullycarnet?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sunking on October 28, 2009, 01:35:14 AM
I rem the short strand.its where i learned to run fast.lmao.:-)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: noots123 on October 28, 2009, 12:52:22 PM
WE ALL LEARNED TO RUN FAST IN THOSE DAYS NO MATTER WHAT SIDE YOU CAME FROM SO CAN YOU CHANGE THE RECORD AND POST SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR A CHANGE.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: madness on October 28, 2009, 08:24:09 PM
I don't understand any of that - where's the views of those from "the other side?"

Madness - are you from Tullycarnet?

no im not from tullycarnet. but the point i am making is neither are any of those people in the pictures. theres nothing from or about tullycarnet in that web address
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: pussy-galore on October 28, 2009, 08:27:46 PM
no im not from tullycarnet. but the point i am making is neither are any of those people in the pictures. theres nothing from or about tullycarnet in that web address

I know ... but sure, isn't that typical   :)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Jack The Kipper on October 29, 2009, 07:51:02 AM
I'am not from the Short Strand, but it is obvious from reading the posts on this thread that the Short Strand is a thorn in the side to a lot of people from the Newtownards Road and surrounding area. .I wonder why that would Be?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Erincyprus on October 29, 2009, 09:13:13 AM
hi erin cyprus ,  remember  mintys shop well  my granny lived in saul street  we used to get the rations  every thursday  :)


Hi Ells,

My Granny lived a few doors up from Minty and we loved going in that little Shop.

Erin
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: archie m on October 29, 2009, 01:59:05 PM
Its probaly bcause it always had the reputation as a rough area and it was know localy as the ghetto.hope this helps.:-)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Jack The Kipper on October 29, 2009, 04:45:47 PM
Its probaly bcause it always had the reputation as a rough area and it was know localy as the ghetto.hope this helps.:-)

I haven't been on the Newtownards Road in years, do'es Saint Mattews Chapel still have pride of place at the head of the road?....For all to see!
Take your orange blinkers off, everyone knows the Newtownwards Road is one big filthy ghetto!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: archie m on October 29, 2009, 04:51:24 PM
St matthews chapel.pmsl.if they were going to give the newtownards rd an enima they gave it at st matthews.lmfao.:-)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: madness on October 29, 2009, 05:51:23 PM
I haven't been on the Newtownards Road in years, do'es Saint Mattews Chapel still have pride of place at the head of the road?....For all to see!
Take your orange blinkers off, everyone knows the Newtownwards Road is one big filthy ghetto!

i would have to agree with you. your right about the newtownards road being one filthy ghetto thats because of the filth over flowing from the s/strand
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Jack The Kipper on October 29, 2009, 06:09:47 PM
My God!, you people are terrified of the Short Strand! .BOO!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: madness on October 29, 2009, 06:41:59 PM
My God!, you people are terrified of the Short Strand! .BOO!

Its not that we are terrified of the S/Strand but look at the history and what it started

Tuberculosis , Polio , Smallpox , Malearia , The Black Death , Bubonic Plague , Typhoid , Cholera , Whooping Cough , Aids , Swine Flu , Diseases of Poverty
Yep We Are Scared  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Jack The Kipper on October 29, 2009, 06:44:21 PM
Judging by your sick posts, I would say you have had the lot!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: madness on October 29, 2009, 06:51:41 PM
Judging by your sick posts, I would say you have had the lot!

unfortunately your right.  you see i used to live down wind from the s/strand
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Jack The Kipper on October 29, 2009, 06:53:44 PM
unfortunately your right.  you see i used to live down wind from the s/strand

Lucky for the good people of the Short Strand.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: madness on October 29, 2009, 06:56:13 PM
Now your saying its lucky for the people of the s/strand - is that due to them having all them diseases .  Mr Kipper you are a sick man {you must live down wind now} :(
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Jack The Kipper on October 29, 2009, 07:01:01 PM
Now your saying its lucky for the people of the s/strand - is that due to them having all them diseases .  Mr Kipper you are a sick man {you must live down wind now} :(

My God!, you are one idiot!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: madness on October 29, 2009, 07:02:37 PM
My God!, you are one idiot!

its you replying - i just want to get on and get my dinner  ;)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Jack The Kipper on October 29, 2009, 07:05:11 PM
its you replying - i just want to get on and get my dinner  ;)

Go ahead!, there's a great wee chippy in the Short Strand, great fish suppers!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: big country on October 30, 2009, 03:19:18 PM
Go ahead!, there's a great wee chippy in the Short Strand, great fish suppers!

don't go there madness. The food is stinking thats were all those diseases you wrote about actually started.
 :bad: :bad:  KEEP YOUR HEALTH  :bad: :bad: AVOID AT ALL COST  :bad: :bad:
    :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Burnsy on October 30, 2009, 03:22:48 PM
don't go there madness. The food is stinking thats were all those diseases you wrote about actually started.
 :bad: :bad:  KEEP YOUR HEALTH  :bad: :bad: AVOID AT ALL COST  :bad: :bad:
    :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop:

WARNING WARNING....IDIOT ALERT...!!!!!!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: big country on October 30, 2009, 03:40:28 PM
WARNING WARNING....IDIOT ALERT...!!!!!!

never run yourself down like that burnsy. your probably a nice guy if people got to know you
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: madness on October 30, 2009, 07:18:55 PM
 :P :P
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: glenb on October 30, 2009, 07:24:10 PM
Enjoying this thread about the Strand, a few of these boys probably got into it and never recovered.

I had mates in Dee st, and then I drank up the King Dick a few times, and the Orange Widows around Woodstock Rd, all of them were terrified of the Strand (they didn't know I was a Fenian)

Don't go into St Matthews grounds....remember???

In all sincerity the Strand was mellow compared to many other areas
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: madness on October 30, 2009, 07:34:51 PM
Enjoying this thread about the Strand, a few of these boys probably got into it and never recovered.

I had mates in Dee st, and then I drank up the King Dick a few times, and the Orange Widows around Woodstock Rd, all of them were terrified of the Strand (they didn't know I was a Fenian)

Don't go into St Matthews grounds....remember???

In all sincerity the Strand was mellow compared to many other areas

i was offered a pint in that bar "king dick" many years ago when i lived in belfast but i'm glad i said no. over the years i have heard a lot of bad things happened in and outside that bar. there was a few more around that area the farmers arms was another with a reputation, that sat by itself in a traffic island or a roundabout or something {it was between roads}
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on November 14, 2009, 01:03:20 PM
Hello som I know you well. send me a PM.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bootboy on November 15, 2009, 12:23:09 AM
Sounds like some of you are having a jolly good time, it's a pity St Matthew's doesn't command total respect from the divided communities. After all, the lead coming from the Chapel spire was from rifles and not off the roof.  Who sanctioned that??  My family helped ferry the wounded to Hospital.  No FOND MEMORIES of St. Matthew's or the Strand.  I wonder why???
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: archie m on November 15, 2009, 11:02:21 AM
NO COMMENTS
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on November 16, 2009, 05:33:13 PM
your name says it all; bootboy
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bootboy on November 16, 2009, 10:27:35 PM
Road hog, welcome to the forum.  I'm sure you mean well, if you would care to explain..

I have a love of music that happens to include guitarists like Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Rory Gallager and Taste, bands like AC/DC, T.Rex, Status Quo, Slade, U2, Thin Lizzy, Horslips, Dropkick Murphys, Planxty, Dr.Feelgood, so what's your beef.(or should I say Pork, Road hog.)

Everybody wore boots in my day, and they still do.. Still luv em especially CATS!!   Check out the Auters, on the go from 1991-1999, Alternative Rock their last album was "How I loved the Bootboys".
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: marketmade on November 17, 2009, 01:45:54 PM
here we go again  ???
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bootboy on November 18, 2009, 12:05:44 AM
marketmade, wot's up.  My granda fought in them Chapel fields under Ma Copeland, any pics of the old Boxers??
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bootboy on November 19, 2009, 12:39:47 AM
marketmade??  On second thoughts don't bother with the pics.  I understand that your are busy making videos.  LOL...   Are you still missing your friends, they said the FRY-UP's are getting better in the East, some cafe beside the Fire Station??
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: 22may on November 19, 2009, 12:44:44 AM
did   any of you people  actually live on the SHORT STRAND/
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: grannyspice on November 19, 2009, 06:59:15 PM
marketmade, wot's up.  My granda fought in them Chapel fields under Ma Copeland, any pics of the old Boxers??
My dad also fought in the chapel fields and I would love to see photos if anyone has any
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: marketmade on November 20, 2009, 01:14:46 PM
marketmade??  On second thoughts don't bother with the pics.  I understand that your are busy making videos.  LOL...   Are you still missing your friends, they said the FRY-UP's are getting better in the East, some cafe beside the Fire Station??
WHAT R U ON ABOUT YAA HEADER ???  ???  ???
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: 22may on November 21, 2009, 12:39:13 AM
WILL ONE  ANSWER MY QUESTION
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: marketmade on December 06, 2009, 04:09:14 PM
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Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Jim B on December 06, 2009, 05:26:52 PM
Not many people can say they are from the Short Strand,,,,,,,,,,, But I can. THEE SHORT STRAND.
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Erincyprus on December 06, 2009, 07:00:05 PM
Not many people can say they are from the Short Strand,,,,,,,,,,, But I can. THEE SHORT STRAND.

 
My Family are from the Short Strand and the Best People in the World came from there.
 
Erin
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on December 06, 2009, 07:08:12 PM
what street is that photo taken ? madrid st ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on December 06, 2009, 07:14:33 PM
I think it's the Short Strand looking down at Quinn St.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on December 06, 2009, 07:19:41 PM
I think it's the Short Strand looking down at Quinn St.

 
cheers m8. id forgot there was houses facing onto the strand itself  .
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on December 06, 2009, 07:29:52 PM
Does anyone know who is in the picture.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: artibell on December 06, 2009, 07:35:00 PM
Does anyone know who is in the picture.

berniedeboraghlilly223
Hi REP1 that is the name on the photo if its any help
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: shiv602 on December 08, 2009, 10:10:10 PM
I was born in 42 Thompson St. in 1955.Lived in The Strand until moving to Carrick in 1968.Now living in  New zealand.Great friends from back then include Gerald Morgan,Michael O'Donnell,John McMahon,Jackie Gartland (all from ThompsonSt).My brother Thomas and sister Lisa still live there.Both my parents Sena McGregor(nee McConvery)and father John/Jack/Jackie are dead.Great place to grow up. Nellie Morgan(mentioned in an earlier post)was Gerald's grannie.Looking back it was,pretty much, a ghetto but we knew no difference when we were growing up.Pa Hump(Mr.Hill) was headmaster and my favourite teacher was Frank McKeever.Any info on any of the above names would be ,greatly,appreciated.

Michael o'donnell is my uncle, i used to live in 69 thompson street. Maura O'Donnell is my mummy, Jackie Gartland is dead now too, his brother is Danny who still lives in the strand
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on December 09, 2009, 04:35:06 AM
Michael O'Donnell + Gerald Morgan were my best friends.
I remember your mother,Maura-I'm sure she's changed LOL.
How is Michael.?  I have seen your uncle Joseph on the News from time to time.Does your aunt Teresa still live there?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: shiv602 on December 09, 2009, 01:04:25 PM
Michael O'Donnell + Gerald Morgan were my best friends.
I remember your mother,Maura-I'm sure she's changed LOL.
How is Michael.?  I have seen your uncle Joseph on the News from time to time.Does your aunt Teresa still live there?

lol well my mummy still has glasses alough they are alot smaller. .i dont think she has changed much. Still a button for my uncle joe!
 
Michael is dead on, as far as i know he works in downpatrick now, drugs awareness councelor or something.
 
Yes theresa still lives there, she has 4 daughters. .mairead also still lives there and has 6 children and christopher lives in dundalk and has 2 sons.
 
I take it your surname is McGregor? Your brother Thomas used to live beside Theresa.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on December 09, 2009, 05:13:37 PM

lol well my mummy still has glasses alough they are alot smaller. .i dont think she has changed much. Still a button for my uncle joe!
 
Michael is dead on, as far as i know he works in downpatrick now, drugs awareness councelor or something.
 
Yes theresa still lives there, she has 4 daughters. .mairead also still lives there and has 6 children and christopher lives in dundalk and has 2 sons.
 
I take it your surname is McGregor? Your brother Thomas used to live beside Theresa.
Thanks for the update on everyone and,yes,Gerard McGreor.
If someone could let Michael Know I was asking for him.That would be great.

Both Thomas + Lisa still live there.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: spacetinker on December 10, 2009, 05:49:09 PM
Taken about 1955 in Woodstock Street.  
The lad is Jimmy Creaney and one of the girls is a wee O'Donnell  (I think)

 
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We were all happy street urchins then.  .Tink
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: grannyspice on December 10, 2009, 10:32:41 PM
What a great photo. Oh those gingham skirts and dresses. Anyone recall the McGloins in Madrid Street just below Dr Boyds which later became wee Dr McKees?There was Kay and Terry and May, Peter and wee Michael.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on December 10, 2009, 11:59:33 PM
What a great photo. Oh those gingham skirts and dresses. Anyone recall the McGloins in Madrid Street just below Dr Boyds which later became wee Dr McKees?There was Kay and Terry and May, Peter and wee Michael.
Doctor McKee delivered me at home.He was the family doctor.

"Wee Michael"? I went to school with him and that wasn't yesterday.He was a nice lad.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on December 11, 2009, 12:02:39 AM
Taken about 1955 in Woodstock Street.  
The lad is Jimmy Creaney and one of the girls is a wee O'Donnell  (I think)

 
(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/spacetinker/woodstockst1.jpg)
 
We were all happy street urchins then.  .Tink
There were 2 O'Donnell families(lived around the corner from each other).The girl on the right was from the Woodstock St. ones.For the life of me I can't remember her name.Geraldine??
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on December 11, 2009, 12:05:29 AM
Dr. Mckee,s surgery always packed. I remember some of them even were having their tea in it. :D
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: grannyspice on December 11, 2009, 10:30:31 PM
"Wee Michael"? I went to school with him and that wasn't yesterday.He was a nice lad. Gerard I remember his granda taught him a poem which started. "Dublin on the Liffey, Cork on the Lea" and he was able to recite the whole poem when he was about 4 years old. Anyone know this poem????
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: btheboot on December 12, 2009, 12:21:51 AM
Religion is man made excuses for their way to God , The bible is the inspired word of God  ,read it and  then be directed as to how it  teaches . There is no one religion mentioned in the bible . I'm thankful for at least one thing each day I wake up ,breath, means He's given me another day to live . We don't answer for religions we all have a choice  believe in God or don't.
hello cousin, man invented religon,god is and man invented god
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on December 16, 2009, 01:03:56 PM
any one remember a girl from sheriff st called Margaret Dynes, she was friends with a girl from the mountpottinger rd called Geraldine Thompson, had a Brother called Liam
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: marketmade on December 16, 2009, 05:37:30 PM
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Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: marketmade on December 16, 2009, 05:37:56 PM
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Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: marketmade on December 16, 2009, 05:38:21 PM
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Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
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Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
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Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
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Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
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Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
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Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
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Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
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Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
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Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
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Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
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Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: marketmade on December 16, 2009, 05:42:49 PM
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Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: marketmade on December 16, 2009, 05:43:11 PM
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Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on December 16, 2009, 05:45:21 PM
Great photos marketmade, I can only recognise one person,Frankie Murry, he lived in Beechfield st
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on December 16, 2009, 05:47:30 PM
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Mr. McComb(Hugh's-Huggie's Da) middle front.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on December 16, 2009, 05:52:12 PM
Marketmade, Seen your lastest posts, photo of Robbie Rainey,his wife Lizzie, and Dennis and Alice Donaldson. Is that photo of the building the brit bar?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: marketmade on December 16, 2009, 06:29:42 PM
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Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: marketmade on December 16, 2009, 06:30:11 PM
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Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on December 16, 2009, 07:10:59 PM
Mr. McComb(Hugh's-Huggie's Da) middle front.
Gerard Bottom left Thomas McGuigan, center Micky McQuaid senior, right Micky Bennet senior.
Top Left Kitty Stephenson, Right Bernie Leonard.
 
Though he is Huggies uncle.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: marketmade on December 16, 2009, 08:48:58 PM
Marketmade, Seen your lastest posts, photo of Robbie Rainey,his wife Lizzie, and Dennis and Alice Donaldson. Is that photo of the building the brit bar?
I THINK THEY WERE ALL TAKEN IN THE LISA CLUB :scratch_ones_head:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on December 17, 2009, 03:26:47 AM
Gerard Bottom left Thomas McGuigan, center Micky McQuaid senior, right Micky Bennet senior.
Top Left Kitty Stephenson, Right Bernie Leonard.
 
Though he is Huggies uncle.
Cheers,mate.Micky Bennett(how could I forget).Don't tell anyone I didn't recognise Bernie-she's related.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: fisher on December 17, 2009, 09:46:35 PM
the new short strand ballymacarrot calender for 2010 is out now and as usual its amazing.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: fisher on December 18, 2009, 12:09:24 PM
I THINK THEY WERE ALL TAKEN IN THE LISA CLUB :scratch_ones_head:

thats the mac airt comm centre sadly no longer there
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on December 18, 2009, 04:56:03 PM
I thought so but wasnt sure.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on December 24, 2009, 11:47:48 PM
Merry Christmas to all who hail from the Short Strand.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on January 01, 2010, 07:47:53 PM
 :D :angry2: :air_kiss: i wonder if someone could tell me were SHORT STRAND got its name from
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Jon B on January 01, 2010, 08:09:48 PM
:D :angry2: :air_kiss: i wonder if someone could tell me were SHORT STRAND got its name from

Frank, I believe there used to be a sandy beach beside where the Short Strand is.
Strand because of the beach, Short because it was wee.
Ive been told there used to be glassworks there that took advantage of the sand.
I think Strandtown has a similar origin.
I stand to be corrected.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on January 01, 2010, 08:12:48 PM
The Short Strand was a small stretch of sand, and used by the locals as small beach at the turn of the century, Hence the name Short Strand.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on January 01, 2010, 08:21:46 PM
 :smile: :angry2: ::) :unsure: thank you jon.b i was born in sheriff st a long time ago
i never knew that there was a small beach there.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Rosiejoe on January 01, 2010, 09:39:41 PM
The Short Strand was a small stretch of sand, and used by the locals as small beach at the turn of the century, Hence the name Short Strand.

What a fascinating piece of info, I went to school at St Matthews back in 50s and never knew how it got its name.  Talking of St Matthews does anyone know if the tunnel in the chapel grounds that led to the school is still there - I expect not after all these years.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on January 01, 2010, 09:55:55 PM
 
 
hi rosiejoe i also attened st matthews in the early 50s
but i was not aware off that tunnel we were not taught about the area we lived in
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on January 02, 2010, 12:22:04 AM
I think you are talking about the corridor that ran from the girls school to the chapel grounds. It has long been pulled down when the new school was built and the convent demolished. there used to be rumours of ghosts in that corridor.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Rosiejoe on January 02, 2010, 03:07:44 PM
REP1, yes the very one, I did think it would be long gone.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Wendl on January 10, 2010, 11:46:30 AM
Hi there....
 
does anyone know how to contact the fellow who has the "stand" in the town that sells all the photos???  I'm looking for one in particular...my husband is one of the wee boys at the very front of the photo....large group of Short Strand kiddies, taken in the late 60's early 70's....any help would be appreciated....forgot to add I'm just home to Canada from Belfast.
 
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: vespamum on January 11, 2010, 11:24:13 PM
Mr. McComb(Hugh's-Huggie's Da) middle front.
sorry to but in , but is that Micky Bennett on the right sitting down?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: vespamum on January 11, 2010, 11:28:25 PM
 :scratch_ones_head: sorry just scrolled back , and see that it is Micky Bennett snr, good friend of my late mum and stepdad
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: noots123 on February 02, 2010, 09:43:53 PM
It certainly is vespamum and he is goin to be eighty in may this year.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: kinkyboots29 on February 02, 2010, 10:36:43 PM
hello folks im born n bred in the shorttstrand grew up in sherrif street and then clandeboye am looking for anybody went to st matthews was born 1980 so take it from there was so quiet n shy n just a little bit of a geek just lookin a trip down memory lane plus have family down there and would be nice if someone would keep a wee eye on them much appriecated x
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on February 02, 2010, 11:01:25 PM
hello folks im born n bred in the shorttstrand grew up in sherrif street and then clandeboye am looking for anybody went to st matthews was born 1980 so take it from there was so quiet n shy n just a little bit of a geek just lookin a trip down memory lane plus have family down there and would be nice if someone would keep a wee eye on them much appriecated x

Who are your family.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: marketmade on February 02, 2010, 11:20:16 PM
whos ur family kinkyboots :scratch_ones_head:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: ells on February 04, 2010, 11:40:36 PM
well noots  you having a party for  your daddy  :smile: 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: irishmaid1 on February 06, 2010, 02:43:51 PM
Had a best mate came from Short Strand Mary Mc Greevy think it was Thompson St she came from sadly she died during the troubles
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: vespamum on February 06, 2010, 06:06:38 PM
 :smile:  i knew  paddy and josie doherty from Sheriff Street , or rather they were good friends of my late mother. ;)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on February 06, 2010, 06:37:54 PM
Had a best mate came from Short Strand Mary Mc Greevy think it was Thompson St she came from sadly she died during the troubles

Mary lived in Anderson street worked as a food waitress in most of the hotels. she died 1972. her two kids live in twinbrook. Patrick and Kathy.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: irishmaid1 on February 06, 2010, 10:04:26 PM
Ahhhhhhhhh thanks REP now I remember the Street last time I was there was for Mary's funeral her kid's where very small if I remember rightly Kathy had made her first holy comunion the day Mary died stll brings a tear to my eye.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on February 08, 2010, 02:32:07 AM
 :smile:
:smile:  i knew  paddy and josie doherty from Sheriff Street , or rather they were good friends of my late mother. ;)
vespamum knew josie and paddy very well josie was born in 24 sheriff st
paddy came from north queen st i was born in 20 sheriff st
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on February 08, 2010, 01:19:37 PM
The Short Strand was a small stretch of sand, and used by the locals as small beach at the turn of the century, Hence the name Short Strand.

I remember being taught by Mr McTaggart in St Matts and he told us that very fact, he also added that he was originally from the Tiger's Bay area and in the late 18th early 19th century there was also a stretch of beach along the foreshore there that was known as the Long Strand. He also told us stories of Sailors drowned in the lough that were buried in oak casks in the centre of Belfast. Years later when I was working in the refurbishment of a Belfast Bar I actually got to see one of these casks!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Island Girl on February 14, 2010, 07:03:08 PM
Hi kaz try the Rush Light site, you will find some old photos possibly of the old strand.
 
I grew up in the short strand, and still have family living locally, I remember the old strand and I loved it, I wish they could have kept the old houses and modernised them,
I know they have kept some streets the same like Madrid, Beechfield, Harper streets apart from which if some one airlifted me in to the middle of the new look strand I wouldn't know where I was!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Island Girl on February 14, 2010, 07:31:05 PM
Hello Everyone
Im researching my family tree. I would like to find out about the Wilson family. They lived at 49 Mountpottinger Road in the Short Strand. My great great aunt was Sarah Wilson (Friel). She had sons Edward and William Wilson. Her sister Martha Friel also lived with them.  I found from St Matthews records that Sarah died in 1950, Martha 1947, and Edward in 1973, he was then living in Beechfield Street. I was just wondering did Edward and his wife Ann have any family. I know even 1973 is a long time ago but would like to hear from anyone who knew of this family.
Hi We lived at 45 Mountpottinger, My Parents knew your family sadly they are both passed away, I remember Mrs Willson, she was highly respected when she moved from Beechfield Street my family moved into thier house, this was thanks to one of them kindly giving my parents the info that they where moving. sorry I don't know much more,
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Island Girl on February 14, 2010, 08:38:00 PM
any one remember a girl from sheriff st called Margaret Dynes, she was friends with a girl from the mountpottinger rd called Geraldine Thompson, had a Brother called Liam
Yes I remember Margaret and Geraldine, I lived on the mountpottinger Road and we all used to go to school together. Island Girl
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Island Girl on February 14, 2010, 08:41:59 PM

What a fascinating piece of info, I went to school at St Matthews back in 50s and never knew how it got its name.  Talking of St Matthews does anyone know if the tunnel in the chapel grounds that led to the school is still there - I expect not after all these years.
Hi Rosiejoe, I went to St Matthews Girls school, I remember the passage well we used to go into the passage to get into the play ground which was in the left and the way into the convent was on the right, we used to think it was haunted back then, it was always dark cold and spooky even on the brightest summers day,
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: victor1 on February 14, 2010, 08:45:09 PM
:smile:  i knew  paddy and josie doherty from Sheriff Street , or rather they were good friends of my late mother. ;)

I played snooker with Paddy for the lesa, he was some crack !
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on February 15, 2010, 08:35:20 PM
island girl, did you get my p.m.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Island Girl on February 15, 2010, 09:09:32 PM
Hi Road Hog,
I just looked at your PM and I have replied to it, I am new to this lark so you will have to excuse me,
All the best
Island Girl
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Kaitren_mc on February 18, 2010, 02:39:13 PM
Its not that we are terrified of the S/Strand but look at the history and what it started

Tuberculosis , Polio , Smallpox , Malearia , The Black Death , Bubonic Plague , Typhoid , Cholera , Whooping Cough , Aids , Swine Flu , Diseases of Poverty
Yep We Are Scared  :angry2: :angry2: :angry2:
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if you hate our area so much then why do u feel the need to add in your immature and stupid comments why dont you scoot on over to the newtonards roadforum im sure u will be welcomed in there with open arms of course
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Jim B on February 18, 2010, 06:13:34 PM

 
Take a hike madness, your humour stinks. ..
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: madness on February 19, 2010, 08:01:22 PM

Take a hike madness, your humour stinks. ..

i did take a hike -- but you called me back "jimbo"
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on February 19, 2010, 10:48:50 PM
Any one remember the name of the people who owned the shop in Seaforde st, on the corner of Nobles field yet? Facing Comber st
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on February 20, 2010, 02:57:58 PM
Any one remember the name of the people who owned the shop in Seaforde st, on the corner of Nobles field yet? Facing Comber st

Was it 'Stitt's', married onto Youngs. I think the Stitt's were from the Newtownard's road....(Rab Young's family!)
 
Does it ring a bell?
 
Rep1 would remember Matt Stitt an old neighbour.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on February 20, 2010, 03:11:18 PM
No Youngs Shop was in Arran street.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: GandT on February 20, 2010, 05:18:53 PM
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Any one remember the name of the people who owned the shop in Seaforde st, on the corner of Nobles field yet? Facing Comber st
Yes - I think their name was also Young. As kids we had a rhyme relating to the owner and the merchandise. Charming little verse - 'May Young, horse's dung, stick a penny up her bum, down comes chewing gum'. Ah, the halcyon days in which true poetry found its origins.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on February 20, 2010, 05:37:10 PM
It wasn't Young's shop in the sixties, they had a small house shop in Arran called Kerry's (Young) May Young worked there.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: noots123 on February 20, 2010, 05:45:13 PM
I think it was called wee  mary mos thats what my brother said and mrs toners was at the corner of Lowry Street.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on February 20, 2010, 06:15:27 PM
From what I remeber it was was a man that owned it.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: noots123 on February 20, 2010, 06:30:49 PM
WELL YA SEE I SAID THAT IT WAS A MAN CALLED DANNY AND MY BRO SAID NO SO MAYBE I WAS RIGHT THEN.
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on February 20, 2010, 06:45:21 PM
I had the name Danny in my head but wasnt sure.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on February 20, 2010, 07:49:43 PM

Was it 'Stitt's', married onto Youngs. I think the Stitt's were from the Newtownard's road....(Rab Young's family!)
 
Does it ring a bell?
 
Rep1 would remember Matt Stitt an old neighbour.
youngs certainly rings a bell, but stitt dosnt, it might be me you could be right
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: pq on February 20, 2010, 10:52:04 PM
hi short strand crowd i can claim dual membership my parents (dont we get a bit posh) ma and da lived as lodgers in maggie browns house 99 short strand but i was born in the royal and brought up in my grannies in the market until they got a room in the markets .i love both places many happy memories of the strand and my mates over there most have passed away now and i am only 57 but the strand gave a lot .one thing about the market and the strand comes to my mind was in the 60s what did the divide across the albert bridge mean DOWN v ANTRIM it near caused murder in st agustines.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Alaun on February 21, 2010, 02:44:02 AM
I think that the shop at Nobels field was Youngs and the wife Theresa was a McGuigan before she was married, I also think that it was her mother Carrie and her father (Faley) McGuigan, who had the shop at the top of Arran street. I lived in Arran street and they were 2nd cousins through marriage.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: close on February 21, 2010, 10:15:47 AM
Matt stitt was a realy good friend of mine and I remember him talking about owening a shop in the late sixties.
I don't think it lasted very long. But I think the location was on the cornerr of beachfeild st and Bryson st.Teresa young worked for him people m
ay have had the impression that it was youngs but matt stitt owened the shop
The shop at nobles field in the early sixties was definatley owened by someone else at that time maybe later on the youngs may have been involved
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: GandT on February 21, 2010, 11:33:23 AM
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I had the name Danny in my head but wasnt sure.

Don't wish to confuse the issue further but it is quite possible that all posts are correct. May Young most definitely worked in the shop in Seaforde Street in the 1950s and it was always called 'May Young's'. It could have been that someone else actually OWNED it. The 60s could have seen a change.
Was just wondering REP 1 if the 'Danny' you remember was a Danny Lennon. I seem to remember he and his wife running a wee shop in Beechfield Street at one point. I think he was actually a brother (or related to) Tommy Lennon (RIP) who owned the jewellery / trophy shop at Smithfield and supplied trophies to GAA, feiseanna etc
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on February 21, 2010, 12:42:57 PM
talking of seaforde st. any of yous remember martin power RIP who came from there ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on February 21, 2010, 01:49:10 PM
talking of seaforde st. any of yous remember martin power RIP who came from there ?

Was he a ginger haired Guy
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on February 21, 2010, 02:00:29 PM

Don't wish to confuse the issue further but it is quite possible that all posts are correct. May Young most definitely worked in the shop in Seaforde Street in the 1950s and it was always called 'May Young's'. It could have been that someone else actually OWNED it. The 60s could have seen a change.
Was just wondering REP 1 if the 'Danny' you remember was a Danny Lennon. I seem to remember he and his wife running a wee shop in Beechfield Street at one point. I think he was actually a brother (or related to) Tommy Lennon (RIP) who owned the jewellery / trophy shop at Smithfield and supplied trophies to GAA, feiseanna etc

The reason I am sure that there was a man that owned the shop. I used to go there on the way to School in mid Sixties. Then one day the shop was closed. The reason it was closed the man who owned it was badly beaten up and hospitalised, he never reopened again. Others may have owned it before or after.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: noots123 on February 21, 2010, 02:58:15 PM
I remember the powers they lived  beside the bottling store.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on February 21, 2010, 04:02:42 PM

Was he a ginger haired Guy

thats him
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on February 21, 2010, 06:34:35 PM

Was he a ginger haired Guy
Martin moved to Craigavon at the time of the big immigration, spoke to him many times, he died very sudden, hope hes in heaven, not a bad big soul
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on February 21, 2010, 06:37:50 PM
road hog Did he live next door to the shop we are talking about.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on February 21, 2010, 07:05:08 PM
road hog Did he live next door to the shop we are talking about.
I think he lived facing it
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on February 21, 2010, 07:22:59 PM
Martin moved to Craigavon at the time of the big immigration, spoke to him many times, he died very sudden, hope hes in heaven, not a bad big soul

good guy indeed. he was a mate of mine. RIP
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on February 22, 2010, 12:19:55 AM
This is turning into a puzzler! I'm gonna have to give my mate a ring tomorrow, if anyone would know who owned this shop it should be him! He lived on the corner of Seaforde Street & Comber St for years!
 
In the meantime, here's a name from the past who also happened to live a couple of doors down from the shop... Bunny McQuade!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: brianmckeever on February 22, 2010, 07:33:04 AM
Gerard Mcg! You mentioned your favourite teacher in St matthews was my brother Frank Mc Keever. same as you I,m in New Zealand---Hastings. Brian
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: victor1 on February 22, 2010, 08:06:55 AM
Bunny McQuade. .DING !!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: noots123 on February 22, 2010, 12:03:55 PM
Frank Mc Keever was a very respected teacher at St Matthews he taught my brothers my husband and my eldest son.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: victor1 on February 22, 2010, 01:03:06 PM
Taught me too, couldn't say a bad thing about the man as stated above, very respected teacher In St Matts.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on February 23, 2010, 01:15:45 AM
Gerard Mcg! You mentioned your favourite teacher in St matthews was my brother Frank Mc Keever. same as you I,m in New Zealand---Hastings. Brian

Your brother was my favourite teacher at any level.He had a vocation.Teaching was,obviously,much more than a job to him.He taught like he carried himself-with style.For me,he was very special.I was lucky to have him in P5 and P6.

Funny little world we live in-is it hot enough for you,down there in Hastings?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on February 24, 2010, 12:57:05 AM
I checked with my mate and he said for as long as he could remember that shop on the corner of Nobels Field & Seaforde St was always known by him & his mate's as Mary Mo's!
 
 
Can anybody remember the name of the newsagents that was under the railway bridge near Memel St and was still open until the 1980's? This photo was taken in 1945.
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/iBridgeendBelfast1945.jpg)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: brianmckeever on February 24, 2010, 10:54:11 AM
Sure is hot as hell here!
Frank died in 1993---a brain tumour.  His son John works for an IT firm in Belfast.  The other son, Paul, was one of the first Catholics to join the PSNI and from what I hear he is well liked patrolling West Belfast. His daughter Romy has a family around Ormeau. His widow Rosemary has been to see us in New Zealand three or four times and on her first visit went para-gliding off Te Mata Peak here in Hawkes Bay.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Jim B on February 24, 2010, 01:08:09 PM
Frank also taught myself, if I rememeber rightly, he was a very competent squash player.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on February 24, 2010, 02:02:33 PM
I checked with my mate and he said for as long as he could remember that shop on the corner of Nobels Field & Seaforde St was always known by him & his mate's as Mary Mo's!
 
 
Can anybody remember the name of the newsagents that was under the railway bridge near Memel St and was still open until the 1980's? This photo was taken in 1945.
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/iBridgeendBelfast1945.jpg)
B burger, REP1, myself and others of the same era, (pre decimalisation,)were wondering who owned it at that time, I think youngs did. 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on February 24, 2010, 02:06:38 PM
Do any of you remember Laverys bottling store in Seaforde St? as we passed it coming from school the smell was brilliant.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on February 24, 2010, 02:39:56 PM
Do any of you remember Laverys bottling store in Seaforde St? as we passed it coming from school the smell was brilliant.

I used to work in it part time. an odd couple of hours after school moving creates around as they came off the bottling machine. First time I ever tasted Coca Cola they stocked it for sale. been addicted to it ever since. they must have lost a fortune in broken bottles due to the troubles.
I have just been outside the Guinness factory in Dublin a couple of hours ago same smell in the air
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: GandT on February 24, 2010, 04:04:48 PM
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Do any of you remember Laverys bottling store in Seaforde St? as we passed it coming from school the smell was brilliant

Remember vividly, Road Hog. Particularly that it sometime had barrels outside ready to be taken away. The rough wood texture, the smell where the alcohol (stout was it mainly?) had seeped into the sides of the barrel, the plug hole on the outside. I think I recall a friend of mine (Gerard Gorman) and myself hiding in them one day. Our intention was not to go back to school - a rough shout, a threatened kick up the backside and, if I recall correctly, the reckless courage of the two would-be mitchers poured away - as quickly as the drink and as the memories
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on February 24, 2010, 07:06:54 PM
GrandT, REP1, the smell was great, just imagine being an alco and living a few doors away, its would put you crackers :D
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on February 24, 2010, 11:22:18 PM
I checked with my mate and he said for as long as he could remember that shop on the corner of Nobels Field & Seaforde St was always known by him & his mate's as Mary Mo's!
 
 
Can anybody remember the name of the newsagents that was under the railway bridge near Memel St and was still open until the 1980's? This photo was taken in 1945.
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/iBridgeendBelfast1945.jpg)
great pic buffloburger! any more from that end of the strand? seems to b lot of buildings where the green is now, too young 2 remember anything but waste ground in that area, apperently there was a cinema called the popular(the pop) at the end of the mountpottinger, anyone any pics of that?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on February 24, 2010, 11:43:07 PM
(http://i45.tinypic.com/28bqxdy.png)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on February 24, 2010, 11:45:51 PM
(http://i49.tinypic.com/jjqj9g.jpg)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on February 25, 2010, 06:54:24 PM
Frank also taught myself, if I rememeber rightly, he was a very competent squash player.
I remember him carrying his squash gear.
But,I believe,he was one helluva Handball player.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on February 25, 2010, 06:58:34 PM
Sure is hot as hell here!
Frank died in 1993---a brain tumour.  His son John works for an IT firm in Belfast.  The other son, Paul, was one of the first Catholics to join the PSNI and from what I hear he is well liked patrolling West Belfast. His daughter Romy has a family around Ormeau. His widow Rosemary has been to see us in New Zealand three or four times and on her first visit went para-gliding off Te Mata Peak here in Hawkes Bay.
Pity he died so young.I am sure that he is,sorely,missed.
His wife sounds like she was his perfect partner and if his 2 sons are even half the man he was then I'm sure they'd be a pleasure to know.
Thanks for the update Brian and if,ever,I am heading your way I'll look you up.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on February 25, 2010, 09:35:08 PM
(http://i45.tinypic.com/28bqxdy.png)
great pic rep1, heard all my brothers and sisters talk about the 'pop' but this is the 1st image i've ever seen of it, just wondering if u'd remember it? wats the street running along side it?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: girl from the block on February 26, 2010, 01:52:19 PM
I believe the Pop was on the corner of the mountpottinger rd, were strand walk is.  It opened in 1917 closed 1972 and had 1100 seats.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on February 26, 2010, 05:39:50 PM
I believe the Pop was on the corner of the mountpottinger rd, were strand walk is.  It opened in 1917 closed 1972 and had 1100 seats.
I think you might be talking about the picturedrome
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on February 26, 2010, 05:56:21 PM
I think you might be talking about the picturedrome

the good old picturedrome. i remember my dad bringing me there to see thunderball ! an aunt of mine worked there for a while. up market compared to the rex. but id rather of had went to the rex anyday of the week.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on February 26, 2010, 06:10:38 PM
May be wrong but I think the Pop was near the Young's Row corner with the Newtownards road.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: artibell on February 26, 2010, 07:19:31 PM
I think you might be talking about the picturedrome

The Picturedrome was on the newtownards road
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: victor1 on February 26, 2010, 07:22:47 PM


Sorry, the Picterdrome was on the Mountpottinger Rd towards the Albertbridge Rd.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on February 26, 2010, 07:30:59 PM

Sorry, the Picterdrome was on the Mountpottinger Rd towards the Albertbridge Rd.

 
it was indeed. was cucan pl the nearest st you placed to it coming in from the albertbridge rd ?  first or 2nd i reckon ?  :scratch_ones_head:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: victor1 on February 26, 2010, 07:42:32 PM
Cluan Place was just after it heading towards the Albertbridge Rd, with the council Yd just before it, we used to play on the Salt dunes when we were kids, there was hundreds of Eddie the Eagles in the Strand in them days lol
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on February 26, 2010, 07:44:17 PM
Cluan Place was just after it heading towards the Albertbridge Rd, with the council Yd just before it, we used to play on the Salt dunes when we were kids, there was hundreds of Eddie the Eagles in the Strand in them days lol

cheers. i was right. my old memory isnt bad after all  :smile:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: artibell on February 26, 2010, 08:40:43 PM

Sorry, the Picterdrome was on the Mountpottinger Rd towards the Albertbridge Rd.
V1 ur right got my wires crossed
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on February 26, 2010, 08:51:57 PM
May be wrong but I think the Pop was near the Young's Row corner with the Newtownards road.
100% right REP1
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: brianmckeever on February 26, 2010, 09:53:48 PM
You'll be very welcome, Gerard. we are in the Hawkes Bay phone directory.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on February 27, 2010, 12:23:48 AM
great pic buffloburger! any more from that end of the strand? seems to b lot of buildings where the green is now, too young 2 remember anything but waste ground in that area, apperently there was a cinema called the popular(the pop) at the end of the mountpottinger, anyone any pics of that?

Aye mickybo I've got some photos taken around the lower N'ards road and the Green all taken in the late 60's, I'm just waiting for the person to whom I lent the CD with photos on it to return it hopefully over the weekend! As soon as I get it back I'll post them for ya. Here's another photo from the same area as the last one. It's Dalton street looking up to Memel Street taken in June 1970.
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/3731094363_c6246ecef5.jpg)
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: victor1 on February 27, 2010, 07:52:22 AM
Thats a cracker buffalo, I got my booolers kicked in at Memel St by the Leckeys( rem them ? ) and their crony's lol always remember the Orange Arch at Memel St and still think of it to this day as I walk the bridge, at least now we can walk it, in our day it was a no no ! lol
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on February 27, 2010, 02:28:46 PM

Aye mickybo I've got some photos taken around the lower N'ards road and the Green all taken in the late 60's, I'm just waiting for the person to whom I lent the CD with photos on it to return it hopefully over the weekend! As soon as I get it back I'll post them for ya. Here's another photo from the same area as the last one. It's Dalton street looking up to Memel Street taken in June 1970.
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/3731094363_c6246ecef5.jpg)
good man buffalo, can just remember a bar about the green called the talk of the town, not sure wat happened 2 it, was also streets there b4 the flyover again a bit b4 my time. 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on February 27, 2010, 02:39:10 PM
Thats a cracker buffalo, I got my booolers kicked in at Memel St by the Leckeys( rem them ? ) and their crony's lol always remember the Orange Arch at Memel St and still think of it to this day as I walk the bridge, at least now we can walk it, in our day it was a no no ! lol
had many of run in with the leckeys, we lived in quinn st and one day they managed 2 get on the roof of the sirocco works overlooking quinn st and threw bricks down at the windows smashing quite a few,when people ran into the street they made off shouting the usual slogans, after that episode everyone in the street were a bit fearful that they wud use the same tactics 4 something of a more sinister attack.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on February 27, 2010, 02:46:07 PM
I believe the Pop was on the corner of the mountpottinger rd, were strand walk is.  It opened in 1917 closed 1972 and had 1100 seats.
think ur spot on girl from the block, goin by wat my older brothers and sister tell me u cud  pay in with a JAM JAR! anyone else heard of this?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Jim B on February 27, 2010, 04:46:26 PM
We used our jam jars Mick to attack the Leckey's. Jake, Arter and myself The Short Strand Reaction Force.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on February 27, 2010, 05:53:29 PM
Not the sort of stuff we need to hear lads.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: girl from the block on February 27, 2010, 08:07:17 PM
think ur spot on girl from the block, goin by wat my older brothers and sister tell me u cud  pay in with a JAM JAR! anyone else heard of this? This is true it was sixpence or two jam jars ive been told
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on February 27, 2010, 08:16:38 PM
what was name of the pub on the corner of the mountpottinger and albertbridge rd ? bar 21 or something like that ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: girl from the block on February 27, 2010, 08:34:40 PM
Would anybody know where Newfoundland St. was?  Found my granda on the 1911 cencus but me da doesn't know where it was.  Might be to early to remember!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on February 27, 2010, 08:38:07 PM
what was name of the pub on the corner of the mountpottinger and albertbridge rd ? bar 21 or something like that ?

The Bar was Hunt & Hinds
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: artibell on February 27, 2010, 08:51:09 PM
Would anybody know where Newfoundland St. was?  Found my granda on the 1911 cencus but me da doesn't know where it was.  Might be to early to remember!

Off Memel Street East Belfast
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on February 27, 2010, 09:18:01 PM

The Bar was Hunt & Hinds

 
what years was it known as that ? id be quite sure that around late 60s early 70s b4 it went for a burton it was called something differant ? !
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on February 27, 2010, 10:23:10 PM

 
what years was it known as that ? id be quite sure that around late 60s early 70s b4 it went for a burton it was called something differant ? !

96 ring any bells?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: GandT on February 27, 2010, 10:36:38 PM
Quote
96 ring any bells?

Gor some reason, G, that number sticks in my head as having been the Bridge Bar but could be totally mistaken. Bar 21 may have been Hunts and Hinds ok.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on February 27, 2010, 10:42:11 PM

Gor some reason, G, that number sticks in my head as having been the Bridge Bar but could be totally mistaken. Bar 21 may have been Hunts and Hinds ok.

Now that you say it,I think you're right.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on February 27, 2010, 10:58:06 PM
It was called the bar 40 it was burned down in 1970
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bigman on February 27, 2010, 11:14:31 PM
I think 96 was on the front of kellys bar at the corner of thampson streer on a big sign or 69 not sure
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on February 27, 2010, 11:57:50 PM
I think 96 was on the front of kellys bar at the corner of thampson streer on a big sign or 69 not sure
kelly's bar was called 96 cos it was number 96 short strand.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on February 28, 2010, 12:00:32 AM
We used our jam jars Mick to attack the Leckey's. Jake, Arter and myself The Short Strand Reaction Force.
ha ha i thought it was sukie bottles in our day jim B!?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bigman on February 28, 2010, 12:03:40 AM
many a pint I had in kellys loved up stairs on a saturday great music
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on February 28, 2010, 12:12:18 AM
many a pint I had in kellys loved up stairs on a saturday great music
was the only place that i knew at the time that sold strongbow on draft! six pints of that and u were anybodys lol
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bigman on February 28, 2010, 12:16:43 AM
I couldn't handle a pint now would kill me strong bow a barreck buster
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: buttercup on February 28, 2010, 06:36:27 AM
I knew Danny Mc Donnell R.I.P. from kilmood street , he was a friend of Sean Mc Grattan from Beechfield Street , he is married to my friend Eileen we used to go to the Dunbar when Louis Small was D.J. great times .
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on February 28, 2010, 05:46:20 PM
It was called the bar 40 it was burned down in 1970

cheers rep. i knew there was a number on the name.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on March 01, 2010, 11:35:22 PM
Sorry to go back on an old subject but I heard on good authority that the shop on the corner of Nobels Field & Seaforde St before it was known as Youngs..etc, was actually a 2nd hand furniture shop run by Jamesy & Francie Campbell. Can any of our more senior members cast their mind that far back and confirm this?
 
 :smile: :smile: :smile:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on March 02, 2010, 12:06:14 AM
Mickybo I'm still waiting for that disc to be returned so here's a photo of Young's Row taken in 1922 in the meantime!
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/img016.jpg)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 02, 2010, 06:31:09 PM
Mickybo I'm still waiting for that disc to be returned so here's a photo of Young's Row taken in 1922 in the meantime!
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/img016.jpg)
thanks buffalo, looks like there were also peace walls in the 20's!? im wondering if that is the pop cinema just 2 the right as was discussed in an earlier thread? i remember as a kid  in the early 70's we used 2 walk from young row 2 the corner of seaford st as a dare as u were taking ur life in ur hands, very little has changed since the 20's.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on March 02, 2010, 06:36:55 PM

Aye mickybo I've got some photos taken around the lower N'ards road and the Green all taken in the late 60's, I'm just waiting for the person to whom I lent the CD with photos on it to return it hopefully over the weekend! As soon as I get it back I'll post them for ya. Here's another photo from the same area as the last one. It's Dalton street looking up to Memel Street taken in June 1970.
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/3731094363_c6246ecef5.jpg)

Really looking forward to your photos,Buffaloburger.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on March 02, 2010, 10:41:19 PM
thanks buffalo, looks like there were also peace walls in the 20's!? im wondering if that is the pop cinema just 2 the right as was discussed in an earlier thread? i remember as a kid  in the early 70's we used 2 walk from young row 2 the corner of seaford st as a dare as u were taking ur life in ur hands, very little has changed since the 20's.

 
Mickybo, if you look closely you can see bullet holes on the corner of the wall on the left hand side of the photo (made by a heavy calibre bullet by the look of it!), just above the heads of the kids! The 'Peace' wall was put up by the Army to reduce the potential for mob incursions into the streets of the Short Strand, hence the reason they left an opening just wide enough for one person at a time to pass through! (As seen on the right hand side of the barricade)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 03, 2010, 06:24:38 PM

 
Mickybo, if you look closely you can see bullet holes on the corner of the wall on the left hand side of the photo (made by a heavy calibre bullet by the look of it!), just above the heads of the kids! The 'Peace' wall was put up by the Army to reduce the potential for mob incursions into the streets of the Short Strand, hence the reason they left an opening just wide enough for one person at a time to pass through! (As seen on the right hand side of the barricade)
not much going on in that pic but it tells a thousand stories, was just thinking my dad wud have been around 13 at that time the  same age as some in the pic, but he never spoke about those days, its ironic that he nearly lost his life in a bomb in the early 70's at the other end of the strand!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on March 04, 2010, 11:28:16 PM
Mickybo I finally got my disc back so sit back & enjoy. lol
 
   
 
If there's any particular street photos you would like to see, just say and I'll have a hunt around to see if I have any!
 
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/img157.jpg)
Seaforde Street circa 1983
 
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/LowerNardsSeafordecorner.jpg)
Lower Newtownards Rd & Seaforde St circa 1968
 
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/SeafordefromNardsRd2.jpg)
Lower Newtownards Rd & Seaforde St circa 1968
 
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/BritanniaBar.jpg)
The 'Brit' Bar circa 1968
 
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/TheGreenupNardsRdfromflyover1.jpg)
The 'Green' & N'ards Rd circa 1968
 
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/BridgeEnd-NardsRdfromflyover.jpg)
N'ards Rd & Youngs Row circa 1968
 
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/TheGreenMiddlepathSt.jpg)
The 'Green' & Middlepath St circa 1968
 
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/YoungsRow.jpg)
Youngs Row circa 1971
 
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/Kenschippie.jpg)
Ken's Chippy  Date Unknown
 
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/StrandfromplaygroundtoQuinnst60s.jpg)
The Strand from the playground towards Quinn Street  circa 1984
 
 
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 04, 2010, 11:50:18 PM
Excellent pics Dan, Stick on more.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Jim B on March 04, 2010, 11:55:11 PM
I would say the photo of the Strand is 1974.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: marketmade on March 05, 2010, 12:15:55 AM
CLASS PHOTOS ;)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 05, 2010, 12:26:47 AM
I would say the photo of the Strand is 1974.

I would say you are near enough might be 75 doesn't look the army are stationed in the bus depot. they were there in 1974.The strand bar was bombed 12 April 1975 so it must have been somewhere between those dates. at that time my dad was the gate man in the depot.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bigman on March 05, 2010, 12:34:06 AM
I was reminded yesterday that it was 40 years since 1970, were have the years gone REP1 I remember your dad 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on March 05, 2010, 04:31:43 AM
Great photos,Buffaloburger.

More.  ..
   .More.  
       .More.

I'll be able to show my lads what the world was like before colour was invented.
Anybody ever been asked:"What was the world like when there was only black + white?"  LOL.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: victor1 on March 05, 2010, 07:09:21 AM
Excellent pics, Any of Clyde St Buffalo ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on March 05, 2010, 07:20:19 AM
b burger, your pics are brilliant, keep em coming. thanks
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bigman on March 05, 2010, 08:37:41 AM
Yes I would often refer to the black white days, when I'm talking to the kids, I liked the old black & white photos B burger posted  they're very nostalgic when I'm out and about  with my camera I would take black and white photo's, I don't know what it is, maybe everything back then was black & white what do you think. 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bigman on March 05, 2010, 08:42:40 AM
The picture of the green in the back ground you can see the talk of the town now a maxol petrol station
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on March 05, 2010, 09:12:28 AM
great photos there. any from up the albertbridge/woodstock ?
 
victor you from clyde st ? was talking to guy yesterday who hails from there.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: victor1 on March 05, 2010, 09:18:01 AM
I sure am olelad, born and reared ;-)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 05, 2010, 04:48:33 PM
Yes I would often refer to the black white days, when I'm talking to the kids, I liked the old black & white photos B burger posted  they're very nostalgic when I'm out and about  with my camera I would take black and white photo's, I don't know what it is, maybe everything back then was black & white what do you think.

Given the job you do bigman I still see you in black and white.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on March 05, 2010, 05:02:47 PM
I sure am olelad, born and reared ;-)

 
it would have been better ive id included a name  :D  guys name was pat bates. id say he was in his mid to late 50s ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 05, 2010, 06:34:48 PM
great pics buffalo, well worth the wait, also helps fills in the blank spaces in the old memory, if i look hard enuf i can c myself playing football on the green lol, also rem SKF beside brit bar, sold bearings so we used 2 go in and ask 4 bearings 4 the front steering on guiders and of course pram wheel 4 the back, anyone rem that?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Jim B on March 05, 2010, 06:52:03 PM
Aye Mickybo. I can see ya, sitting on the grass. You where always sub  :D
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 05, 2010, 06:53:18 PM
I would say the photo of the Strand is 1974.
jim b, if u look closely at quinn st the murals r painted on the gable wall, wat year was the first festival?  Rep 1 is spot on with the date of the strand bar bombing.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Jim B on March 05, 2010, 07:01:18 PM
Has to be the summer of 74  :scratch_ones_head:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 05, 2010, 07:14:55 PM
Has to be the summer of 74  :scratch_ones_head:
had 2 b, and there was me thinking it was 75!? with the winnng murals of micky and donald lol, must have been the same year  u and arter and jake run the brits out of the bus depot lol, rem when jake almost got his head blown off when a soldier let off a round from the post and it hit felix mckeatins wall rite beside where he was standing?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: girl from the block on March 05, 2010, 07:27:27 PM
The photo of seaforde st is later than 1983. If Iremember rightly gerry gibney was owner of the shop at the time, after mary smith had  moved in due to local hudlums ransacked here premses in sheriff st [1984] 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Jim B on March 05, 2010, 07:53:30 PM
had 2 b, and there was me thinking it was 75!? with the winnng murals of micky and donald lol, must have been the same year  u and arter and jake run the brits out of the bus depot lol, rem when jake almost got his head blown off when a soldier let off a round from the post and it hit felix mckeatins wall rite beside where he was standing?

I always looked forward to the Mc Keating family feud every Sat night. The da and brothers giving each other a good hammering. Ah ! bring back the good oul days. Peggy Mc Creesh and Nellie Fegan scrapping, where has it all gone ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on March 05, 2010, 11:33:25 PM
Jim B I think you're right it was a mistype I had been told 1974 not 1984, well spotted!
 
Well folks here are some more pics of Clyde St, Woodstock St and just for the Bigman one of Madrid St/Bryson St taken around 1983. I've also thrown in a couple of others just for good measure!!!
 
   
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/WoodstockmadridfromAlbert.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/WoodstockstfromTuckerstoMadridst.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/img670.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/ClydeStinColouratsunset.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/FQ064.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/Vulcanstcokeyonbollards.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/ClydestStMattsclub.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/FQ150.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/FromMadriddownBryson1983-1.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/AndersonstStrandBarbarricade.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/AndersonstStrandBarRooftarring.jpg)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 05, 2010, 11:46:50 PM
Greay photos BB, what street is number 8 it looks like Clyde ST or Aran St
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on March 05, 2010, 11:57:23 PM
Greay photos BB, what street is number 8 it looks like Clyde ST or Aran St

It was Clyde St looking up to St Matts.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on March 06, 2010, 12:07:17 AM
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/Strand-CardschoolinClydeStreet1983.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/img043.jpg)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: marketmade on March 06, 2010, 12:31:44 AM
keep them comming BB  ;)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: paddymacgoillabhrighe on March 06, 2010, 01:11:53 AM
Matt stitt was a realy good friend of mine and I remember him talking about owening a shop in the late sixties.
I don't think it lasted very long. But I think the location was on the cornerr of beachfeild st and Bryson st.Teresa young worked for him people m
ay have had the impression that it was youngs but matt stitt owened the shop
The shop at nobles field in the early sixties was definatley owened by someone else at that time maybe later on the youngs may have been involved
 
 
does anyone remember the reynolds's from arran st
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: victor1 on March 06, 2010, 07:11:30 AM
The roofers on the Strand bar, could they be Anthony and Jackie McClune ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 06, 2010, 11:12:51 AM
Another set of cracking pics bullalo, anyone kno why chemical street was blocked off with dragons teeth? and wat year was the big chimney knocked down?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: victor1 on March 06, 2010, 11:20:34 AM
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/Strand-CardschoolinClydeStreet1983.jpg)
 


From left to right.....Philly O'Niell Tony Murphy Sean Lavery John McGlaughlin(standing) Tommy Cupples (abus)(sitting) Colin Quinn and Stephen Irvine(bonanz)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on March 06, 2010, 11:43:42 AM
Another set of cracking pics bullalo, anyone kno why chemical street was blocked off with dragons teeth? and wat year was the big chimney knocked down?

Vulcan St, Sheriff St & Chemical St along with a lot of others in different areas had Dragons teeth installed by the Army (I remember watching them being put in place in Chemical St where I lived) to make it easier for the Army/Cops to mount road blocks, disrupt any potential speeding cars and also give the troops some solid protection to stand behind when doing vechicle checks.
 
I have some pics somewhere taken on the day Blairs Chimney was demolished. (When we were allowed in everyone swarmed all over it's ruins hacking off the tiny metal plates that were used to fasten the lighting rod & electric cables. I've still got mine somewhere at home..sad! lol)
 
   
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: debs123 on March 07, 2010, 01:37:49 AM
hi i was wondereing if any1 new my granny and granda,im doin a family tree wanna try trace right bak thanks,hugh and jane mcmillan. :smile:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 07, 2010, 01:53:08 AM
There were people called McMillan that lived in Moria Street. (Dickie McMillan) Maybe connected.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Jim B on March 07, 2010, 10:01:17 AM
From left to right.....Philly O'Niell Tony Murphy Sean Lavery John McGlaughlin(standing) Tommy Cupples (abus)(sitting) Colin Quinn and Stephen Irvine(bonanz)
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Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Jim B on March 07, 2010, 10:02:45 AM
From left to right.....Philly O'Niell Tony Murphy Sean Lavery John McGlaughlin(standing) Tommy Cupples (abus)(sitting) Colin Quinn and Stephen Irvine(bonanz)

 
Is that a couple of the pidgeons in the background, Molly, Gerard. Dominic and Paul...?
 
 
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: victor1 on March 07, 2010, 10:08:34 AM

 
Is that a couple of the pidgeons in the background, Molly, Gerard. Dominic and Paul...?

Jezus benj I think you could be right lol
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bigman on March 07, 2010, 12:31:02 PM
the picture of the van on the waste ground was mine and the dog lol, back in the old black and white days REP 1
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: victor1 on March 07, 2010, 12:35:11 PM
It couldn't be yours bigman, all your vehicles sat on bricks that van has wheels lol
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bigman on March 07, 2010, 12:42:25 PM
when your uncle P found out, I had that van he went out and bought one so he could barrow parts lol on a non return basis your uncle what ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: victor1 on March 07, 2010, 12:45:51 PM
He was a smart character lol
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 07, 2010, 06:25:51 PM

Vulcan St, Sheriff St & Chemical St along with a lot of others in different areas had Dragons teeth installed by the Army (I remember watching them being put in place in Chemical St where I lived) to make it easier for the Army/Cops to mount road blocks, disrupt any potential speeding cars and also give the troops some solid protection to stand behind when doing vechicle checks.
 
I have some pics somewhere taken on the day Blairs Chimney was demolished. (When we were allowed in everyone swarmed all over it's ruins hacking off the tiny metal plates that were used to fasten the lighting rod & electric cables. I've still got mine somewhere at home..sad! lol)
 
   
hello bb the pics are great they made me a little home-sick i left 1964 for canada
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on March 07, 2010, 06:43:07 PM
Did you never come back to visit frank.m
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 07, 2010, 08:43:39 PM
Did you never come back to visit frank.m
hi road hog ihave been home a few times but i stayed in twinbrook with my sister
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 07, 2010, 09:13:06 PM
hi road hog ihave been home a few times but i stayed in twinbrook with my sister
Prob wudnt recognise the place frank.m
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: debs123 on March 07, 2010, 11:08:52 PM
thanks rep1 yea that is my great granda thank you you dont by any chance know his wifes name?
There were people called McMillan that lived in Moria Street. (Dickie McMillan) Maybe connected.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 07, 2010, 11:36:24 PM
I don't know his wife's name but may be able to find out. He had a daughter called Geraldine. and if I'm right his son was badly injured in a car crash that left him paralysed. Later died.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 08, 2010, 12:47:37 AM
Prob wudnt recognise the place frank.m
hi mickybo i was over in short strand 2 years ago i still have a brother there
he is liveing in loughlee but you are right i did not know the place it sure has change
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: debs123 on March 08, 2010, 04:20:56 PM
hi,yea that would be good.yes the son that had the car crash was my granda hugh he was left paralysd.
I don't know his wife's name but may be able to find out. He had a daughter called Geraldine. and if I'm right his son was badly injured in a car crash that left him paralysed. Later died.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 08, 2010, 04:32:31 PM
hi mickybo i was over in short strand 2 years ago i still have a brother there
he is liveing in loughlee but you are right i did not know the place it sure has change

Would your second name be May. by any chance
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 08, 2010, 04:49:03 PM

Would your second name be May. by any chance
hi rep1 right on my twin brother bobby is still there
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 08, 2010, 04:59:55 PM
I know Bobby well.I was talking to him in ST Matthews a couple of weeks ago. used to live facing Jim in Harper st. You likely wont know me but I will pm you the name anyway.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 08, 2010, 06:13:33 PM
I know Bobby well.I was talking to him in ST Matthews a couple of weeks ago. used to live facing Jim in Harper st. You likely wont know me but I will pm you the name anyway.
hi REP1seem to know your last name for sure you would see bobby in
ST MATTHEWS my wife and i are going home for our 50 th wedd anv hope to meet
you in sept
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 08, 2010, 06:20:00 PM
hi mickybo i was over in short strand 2 years ago i still have a brother there
he is liveing in loughlee but you are right i did not know the place it sure has change
Used 2 live in lough lea b4 i moved on and wud kno ur brother 2 see, doesnt he have a daughter karen?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 08, 2010, 06:38:06 PM
Used 2 live in lough lea b4 i moved on and wud kno ur brother 2 see, doesnt he have a daughter karen?
yes mickybo my brother has a daughter called KAREN
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 08, 2010, 06:43:25 PM
I know Bobby well.I was talking to him in ST Matthews a couple of weeks ago. used to live facing Jim in Harper st. You likely wont know me but I will pm you the name anyway.
HELLO REP1 did your dad go to st matthews school
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 08, 2010, 11:42:46 PM
No Frank my dad came from Rockmore Road on the Falls. My Mother was one of the Brady's from Anderson ST
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 09, 2010, 06:03:14 PM
No Frank my dad came from Rockmore Road on the Falls. My Mother was one of the Brady's from Anderson ST
REP 1, my late sister, marie, had a life long friend, Rita Brady,wud it b the same brady as ur mum?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 09, 2010, 06:37:42 PM
One and the same mickybo she is still in the area. in Clandeboye. Rita is my Cousin.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 09, 2010, 06:54:31 PM
One and the same mickybo she is still in the area. in Clandeboye. Rita is my Cousin.
REP1, have a pic dated 1967 and taken in hunt and hinds, wasnt even sure where that was until reading an old thread, my sis and rita along with 2 friends and really looking of its day, will scan it and post it if u dont already have it in ur posession!? lol
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 09, 2010, 07:05:09 PM
Love to see it Micky
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 09, 2010, 07:11:10 PM
Love to see it Micky
Will hunt it out, but swinging 60's wudnt b in it! lol
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 09, 2010, 07:54:38 PM
yes mickybo my brother has a daughter called KAREN
Karen is a lovely girl tho i havent seen her in many years and at that stage she was also living in lough lea, does she still live there?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 09, 2010, 09:25:17 PM
Karen is a lovely girl tho i havent seen her in many years and at that stage she was also living in lough lea, does she still live there?
mickybo she is living in a house in the area were sheriff st was
i do not know the names off the new streets
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on March 10, 2010, 09:34:08 AM
frank, are you any relation to the Mays that owned the shop on the Mountpottinger rd facing the sorocco works?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 10, 2010, 05:11:39 PM
frank, are you any relation to the Mays that owned the shop on the Mountpottinger rd facing the sorocco works?
yes road hog they were my aunts and uncles
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on March 10, 2010, 07:48:09 PM
yes road hog they were my aunts and uncles
frank, the only one I remember was Mini, it closed when I was very young
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 10, 2010, 08:24:29 PM
frank, the only one I remember was Mini, it closed when I was very young
yes road hog that  was my aunt mini after it closed my brother bobby moved
in to the house my aunts and uncle moved to Craigavon but they have all died rip
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 10, 2010, 08:48:00 PM
mickybo she is living in a house in the area were sheriff st was
i do not know the names off the new streets
same here frank.m, only name that spring 2 mind is mountford which of course is mountpottinger and seaford cut and joined 2gether, the name Dicky May comes 2 mind, think as kids we used 2 buy apples at his door, i think Sheriff st?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 10, 2010, 08:50:34 PM
On a simular subject REP1, who sold the best candy apples in the strand?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 10, 2010, 10:18:52 PM
same here frank.m, only name that spring 2 mind is mountford which of course is mountpottinger and seaford cut and joined 2gether, the name Dicky May comes 2 mind, think as kids we used 2 buy apples at his door, i think Sheriff st?
yes your right mickybo dicky may was my dad 20 sheriff st
he also sold candy apples i think it was before your time
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on March 10, 2010, 10:58:20 PM
yes your right mickybo dicky may was my dad 20 sheriff st
he also sold candy apples i think it was before your time

I think Mickbo is older than me and I can vaguely remember getting candy apples at your Dad's house. I even remember buying a parachutist figure. You would fold the parachute up and then throw the action figure up into the air and it would float back down again! I lost a couple of them when they floated down into Patsy Curran's backyard on the corner of Mountpottinger Rd & Chemical St & snowball their dog ripped them to pieces! LOL
 
Frank correct me if I'm wrong but did your Dad have a handcart? The reason I ask is that I used to hang about with your nephew Jim from the mid 1970's to the mid 80's and I kind of remember seeing a photo of possibly your dad beside a handcart in Sheriff St. I do remember however calling into your Mums house with Jim and playing cards with her.. she should have gone professional! A harsh lesson learned there much to my cost!! LOL
 
I also remember your Bobby used to Taxi  back in the 1970's. (I still see him from time to time in the Morning Star pub). I think the darts player Bobby George visted your Mums a couple of times when Bobby was his driver driving him about when he was in Belfast doing exhibitions.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 10, 2010, 11:54:09 PM
On a simular subject REP1, who sold the best candy apples in the strand?

Dorithy Malone Anderson ST
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on March 11, 2010, 02:41:12 PM
On a simular subject REP1, who sold the best candy apples in the strand?
Mrs Mc Curdy, top of Chemical st ;)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: McNamee on March 11, 2010, 02:44:42 PM
Road Hog is that anywhere near Chemical Alley.. ;)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 11, 2010, 04:07:06 PM

I think Mickbo is older than me and I can vaguely remember getting candy apples at your Dad's house. I even remember buying a parachutist figure. You would fold the parachute up and then throw the action figure up into the air and it would float back down again! I lost a couple of them when they floated down into Patsy Curran's backyard on the corner of Mountpottinger Rd & Chemical St & snowball their dog ripped them to pieces! LOL
 
Frank correct me if I'm wrong but did your Dad have a handcart? The reason I ask is that I used to hang about with your nephew Jim from the mid 1970's to the mid 80's and I kind of remember seeing a photo of possibly your dad beside a handcart in Sheriff St. I do remember however calling into your Mums house with Jim and playing cards with her.. she should have gone professional! A harsh lesson learned there much to my cost!! LOL
 
I also remember your Bobby used to Taxi  back in the 1970's. (I still see him from time to time in the Morning Star pub). I think the darts player Bobby George visted your Mums a couple of times when Bobby was his driver driving him about when he was in Belfast doing exhibitions.
hi buffaloburger you are right there was a photo of my dad in the short strand calendar i look forward to that calendar every year my sister always sends me one
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 11, 2010, 06:59:21 PM

Dorithy Malone Anderson ST
Thought u mite say that REP1 lol, but wud tend 2 agree with u, if u cud jog my memory, didnt she have a little shop that didnt sell much!? can only rem going there 2 get candy apples.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 11, 2010, 07:46:25 PM
yes your right mickybo dicky may was my dad 20 sheriff st
he also sold candy apples i think it was before your time
U r paying me a compliment frank, on the wrong side of 40 lol, come to think of it, must have been calling for the candy apples rather than the healthy ones, but knew i was on the right track with the fruit and veg.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 11, 2010, 09:00:19 PM
Thought u mite say that REP1 lol, but wud tend 2 agree with u, if u cud jog my memory, didnt she have a little shop that didnt sell much!? can only rem going there 2 get candy apples.

Micky she sold them from her house I don't think she sold anthing else. But there were loads of people selling different things from there homes, another women in Anderson Street was Lizzie Carson who sold lemonade from her house, She was killed in the Strand bar she was really nice person.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 11, 2010, 09:14:02 PM

Micky she sold them from her house I don't think she sold anthing else. But there were loads of people selling different things from there homes, another women in Anderson Street was Lizzie Carson who sold lemonade from her house, She was killed in the Strand bar she was really nice person.
thanks 4 keeping me rite REP, but wasthere another shop-type house in the street?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 11, 2010, 09:36:51 PM
There was a house that looked like a shop from the outside that belonged to Jane Donaldson.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on March 11, 2010, 09:52:23 PM
Road Hog is that anywhere near Chemical Alley.. ;)
Mc Namee,the candy apples that Mrs Mc Curdy made were the best, she dipped them in coconut flakes before any of us knew what a coconut was :D but hte street wasnt far from the alley :D
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on March 11, 2010, 09:55:37 PM
There was a house that looked like a shop from the outside that belonged to Jane Donaldson.
Yes REP, we were far away relations of the Donaldsons, all I can remember is the shop sold sweets, there never seemed to be any bread or ham etc, may be Im wrong
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Island Girl on March 12, 2010, 09:00:44 PM
Hello Everyone
Im researching my family tree. I would like to find out about the Wilson family. They lived at 49 Mountpottinger Road in the Short Strand. My great great aunt was Sarah Wilson (Friel). She had sons Edward and William Wilson. Her sister Martha Friel also lived with them.  I found from St Matthews records that Sarah died in 1950, Martha 1947, and Edward in 1973, he was then living in Beechfield Street. I was just wondering did Edward and his wife Ann have any family. I know even 1973 is a long time ago but would like to hear from anyone who knew of this family.
Hi, i have contacted you before and you got back in touch with me, I am sorry I haven't replied but I am finding my way round and not very well it appears! I have asked my brother 'Big Man' if he can remember the Willson family and he can, when I next go home I will try and find out if any one still living in Beechfield St remembers them. I don't think they had any children but it may be worth contacting the local church which is St Matthews. as they would have baptisim records.
Cheers
Island Girl
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: speedwobble on March 13, 2010, 02:48:35 AM
I have traced my family (Keegan) back to the Short Strand in the 1900's and beyond.  My Grt Aunt was Margaret Keegan married to William O'Hara and was living in Vulcan Street in 1911.  My Grt Grandfather (Thomas Keegan) was living with her after she was married.  My Grt Uncle James Keegan lived in Altcar Street, James was Thomas brother.

As I have always seen myself as an Ulster Scot, I am really chuffed to see my background is not what I always thought.  If anyone can help me add to the family history I would be very grteful.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on March 13, 2010, 07:03:06 AM
Island Girl, your back, I thought someone had stolen your computer :D . Is every thing going alright with you hubby
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 13, 2010, 12:18:41 PM
Yes REP, we were far away relations of the Donaldsons, all I can remember is the shop sold sweets, there never seemed to be any bread or ham etc, may be Im wrong
Thats what i thought road hog but maybe REP knos better being a close neighbour,i rem the donaldsons, did they move somewhere around the mountpottinger after the terrible events in the street?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 13, 2010, 12:32:53 PM
Jane, lived for many years with her daughter Annie and son in-law Paddy Mulligan, moved to Clandeboye.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on March 13, 2010, 01:28:26 PM
After the event in the street, they moved into one of the houses on the mountpottinger rd, facing the picturedrome, from there, probably to were they are now.REP1 would know more about the shop, he ran a tab up in it :D
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 13, 2010, 04:05:01 PM
After the event in the street, they moved into one of the houses on the mountpottinger rd, facing the picturedrome, from there, probably to were they are now.REP1 would know more about the shop, he ran a tab up in it :D
help can any one remember the little street off seaford st faceing vulcan st
mrs cullen had a shop on the corner it had only 5 or 6 houses there was a family named
turly and a family named tabb also remember da harvey he was the barber of short strand
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on March 13, 2010, 04:46:01 PM
frsnk, your spot on with the families that lived there, the st was called Huddlestons place, excuse the spelling
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 13, 2010, 06:15:14 PM
frsnk, your spot on with the families that lived there, the st was called Huddlestons place, excuse the spelling
[/ right on road hog i could not remember the name.i had my hair-cut many a time
by DA HARVEY and that is a long time ago.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on March 13, 2010, 06:29:50 PM
Thats before you started to wear the winkel pickers, then you got your hair styled by Jackie Rice :D
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 13, 2010, 07:30:14 PM
Thats before you started to wear the winkel pickers, then you got your hair styled by Jackie Rice :D
you are right again road hog jackie rice was on the corner of beechfield st
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 14, 2010, 01:45:45 AM
you are right again road hog Jackie rice was on the corner of beechfield st
Next door to Murray's shop, Jackie also played in a dance band.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 14, 2010, 02:12:04 AM
U r paying me a compliment frank, on the wrong side of 40 lol, come to think of it, must have been calling for the candy apples rather than the healthy ones, but knew i was on the right track with the fruit and veg.
hi mickybo notice tou were born in quinn st would you remember a family
liveing in the strand by the name of tootlei went to school with a freddie tootle
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on March 14, 2010, 08:29:22 PM
Can anyone remember the name of the teacher in st mattews who ran the savings scheme
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on March 14, 2010, 11:37:13 PM
Can anyone remember the name of the teacher in st mattews who ran the savings scheme

I think it was Mr McKenna or Rubber lips as he was often known!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on March 15, 2010, 07:43:19 AM

I think it was Mr McKenna or Rubber lips as he was often known!
Rubber lips :D us kids were so cruel, we had names for everyone
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: marketmade on March 15, 2010, 06:40:08 PM
have a look at this eejitt i think he used to patrol the strand in the 80s  :D
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk--WVaknzI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk--WVaknzI)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: fisher on March 16, 2010, 11:53:48 PM
mr carey
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: fisher on March 16, 2010, 11:58:17 PM
there were two dead end streets in the strand ,, can u name them?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 17, 2010, 12:13:11 AM
Quinn street, Hudlesons place youngs row, Carlton Street. Austin Street, Lowery Street.Trench Street.
There were more than two fisher.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 17, 2010, 12:23:48 AM
there were two dead end streets in the strand ,, can u name them?
hi fisher i think the two dead streets were quinn st and kartome st
excuse the spelling
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 17, 2010, 12:29:49 AM
Frank where was khartoum street
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 17, 2010, 12:44:20 AM
Frank where was khartoum street

rep1 khartoum st was at the end off middlepath st  and the start off foundry st
at the end of the st there was a large wall keeping people from the railway tracks
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 17, 2010, 12:58:42 AM
I was born in 1956 that area was being pulled down around 61 or there abouts.So I didn't know it, but I remember being brought to visit people in foundry st when i was very young.
I would love to see an old map or photos of those streets.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 17, 2010, 01:19:19 AM
I was born in 1956 that area was being pulled down around 61 or there abouts.So I didn't know it, but I remember being brought to visit people in foundry st when i was very young.
I would love to see an old map or photos of those streets.
there was about 4 houses on the street if you can remember a fellow by
the name of patsy patterson rip he used to sell fruit and flowers in castle st
well he was born in same st
 
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 18, 2010, 08:39:04 PM
hi mickybo notice tou were born in quinn st would you remember a family
liveing in the strand by the name of tootlei went to school with a freddie tootle
hi frank, yes hailed from wee quinn st, cant say i kno the name but cud ask the older brothers if u give me a rough age of ur school mate or roughly where abouts on the strand he lived, have heard my brothers talking about foundry st and i think my late sister worked in an ice cream shop somewhere about there?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 19, 2010, 01:10:32 AM
hi frank, yes hailed from wee quinn st, cant say i kno the name but cud ask the older brothers if u give me a rough age of ur school mate or roughly where abouts on the strand he lived, have heard my brothers talking about foundry st and i think my late sister worked in an ice cream shop somewhere about there?
hi mickybo that guy i was speaking about lived about 4or5 houses from
richardsons we called it the bone yard your sister maybe worked in fuscos
they sold ice cream but they had great hot peas with lots of vinegar i can taste them now
 
also that guy would be about 70-71
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 19, 2010, 06:16:13 PM
hi mickybo that guy i was speaking about lived about 4or5 houses from
richardsons we called it the bone yard your sister maybe worked in fuscos
they sold ice cream but they had great hot peas with lots of vinegar i can taste them now
 
also that guy would be about 70-71
hi frank, got talking 2 a couple of my older brothers about ur mate freddie tootle, and both knew him well, think he moved away 2 australia but my brother reckons het met him in london a few years back and thinks he has sadly passed on,also said that he had a sister, mary? who chummed around with my late sister, marie, who i mentioned worked in the ice cream parlour, but think the name was funsanios? (excuse spelling) not fuscos? 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on March 19, 2010, 06:52:23 PM
mickybo, would that be Desanos ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 19, 2010, 07:06:31 PM
hi frank, got talking 2 a couple of my older brothers about ur mate freddie tootle, and both knew him well, think he moved away 2 australia but my brother reckons het met him in london a few years back and thinks he has sadly passed on,also said that he had a sister, mary? who chummed around with my late sister, marie, who i mentioned worked in the ice cream parlour, but think the name was funsanios? (excuse spelling) not fuscos?
right again mickybo it was visanos?(excuse spelling) PHONE MY SISTER
last night she came up with the same name sorry to here about FREDDIE (RIP)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 20, 2010, 01:32:50 PM
right again mickybo it was visanos?(excuse spelling) PHONE MY SISTER
last night she came up with the same name sorry to here about FREDDIE (RIP)
ur spelling cud b the rite one frank and if i find out any different will let u kno, same again with freddie, my brother also said when he met him in london he was with his brother? and that he thinks that it was freddie who passed on, again if i hear anythig else i will keep u informed.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 20, 2010, 01:36:59 PM
mickybo, would that be Desanos ?
cud b roadhog, seems that it was a while ago and people have a different slant on how 2 pronounce it or spell it, im sure someone on the forum will put us right.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on March 20, 2010, 01:50:05 PM
the pattersons you mention. didnt they live in altcar st at one time ? billy, gerldine, vinny, john i think was another
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 20, 2010, 07:57:35 PM
cud b roadhog, seems that it was a while ago and people have a different slant on how 2 pronounce it or spell it, im sure someone on the forum will put us right.
:scratch_ones_head: hi mickybo i was looking through the Quinn st site now i know your last name
did any off your family go to st matthews school in the early 40s seems your family
 
has been liveing there a long time
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 20, 2010, 09:06:22 PM
:scratch_ones_head: hi mickybo i was looking through the Quinn st site now i know your last name
did any off your family go to st matthews school in the early 40s seems your family
 
has been liveing there a long time
was 9 of us, me being the youngest, prob kno oldest brothers hugh or frankie?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 20, 2010, 10:37:51 PM
was 9 of us, me being the youngest, prob kno oldest brothers hugh or frankie?
hallo mickybo i remember your brother FRANKIE
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 21, 2010, 12:55:14 AM
hallo mickybo i remember your brother FRANKIE
hes been in london 40 odd yrs and been driving buses 4 just as long, hes the brother who met freddie tootle and have been trying 2 get him on the forum, so watch this space frank lol.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 21, 2010, 03:29:29 PM
hes been in london 40 odd yrs and been driving buses 4 just as long, hes the brother who met freddie tootle and have been trying 2 get him on the forum, so watch this space frank lol.
hi mickybo i was thinking last night after my 3rd budwiser did your sister(rip)
one time go out with david thomson if so i remember her she was a beautiful girl
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 21, 2010, 07:02:09 PM
hi mickybo i was thinking last night after my 3rd budwiser did your sister(rip)
one time go out with david thomson if so i remember her she was a beautiful girl
yes frank got it spot on,i never knew davy but remember the shock in my family when davy was killed and remember that both familys were always very close, my sister passed away about 15yrs ago after a lenghty illness.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on March 21, 2010, 08:11:43 PM
frank, did you know where ducks entry was, off seaforde st
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 21, 2010, 08:23:52 PM
frank, did you know where ducks entry was, off seaforde st
sorry road hog i dont know where it is but when i am speaking too
my sisters i will ask them
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: fisher on March 22, 2010, 09:38:09 PM
ducks entry was in lisbon street
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: fisher on March 22, 2010, 09:38:49 PM
whos frank m micky ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 22, 2010, 09:47:34 PM
whos frank m micky ?
go back on the thread fisher and u will pick it up, some people like 2 keep their i.d. secret and welcome 2 b.f.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 22, 2010, 11:20:35 PM
ducks entry was in lisbon street
got it in one fisher, had same debate in a thread about tick mans park, maybe we shudn't go there, but wat do u rem about it or how it got its name?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 22, 2010, 11:56:38 PM
whos frank m micky ?
hi fisher i was born in sheriff st 1938 yes i am a old fart.i came to canada 1964
have been here ever since.i am so proud to be a short strand man like last night
i walked up and down seaford st looking for duck entry in my dreams(HA-HA)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: kevben on March 23, 2010, 04:37:51 PM
my sister used to go with a guy called skip mclaughlin,i remember coming over to our house in the new lodge on a horse,is he still knocking about? :scratch_ones_head:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: victor1 on March 25, 2010, 07:35:10 PM
Aye skips still beating around, he's no longer on the horse though drives a car now  :D
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 26, 2010, 08:48:42 PM
Aye skips still beating around, he's no longer on the horse though drives a car now  :D
kno there are 2 skips, older 1 drives a taxi and 1st name escapes me? and the younger 1 is called stephen.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: victor1 on March 27, 2010, 07:32:48 AM
Kevin !
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frankieleonard on March 27, 2010, 12:44:44 PM
yes frank got it spot on,i never knew davy but remember the shock in my family when davy was killed and remember that both familys were always very close, my sister passed away about 15yrs ago after a lenghty illness.
hi mickybo about freddie tootle i think it was his bro billy that died not freddie waiting to meet somebody to confirm it
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frankieleonard on March 27, 2010, 12:47:03 PM
hi mickybo about freddie tootle i think it was his bro billy that died not freddie waiting to meet somebody to confirm it
davy was one of the best always looked up to himlike a big brother
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 27, 2010, 07:16:54 PM
hi mickybo about freddie tootle i think it was his bro billy that died not freddie waiting to meet somebody to confirm it
hi frank.m, managed 2 get the bro on the forum and hope u read this post.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 27, 2010, 08:02:59 PM
Kevin !
cheers victor1, was talking 2 him 2 weeks ago and cudnt 4 the life of me rem his 1st name.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on March 27, 2010, 08:12:49 PM
Just jumping in here fellas to say I hope you don,t mind but I enjoy your posts as part of my heart will always
be in that neighbourhood. :smile:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 28, 2010, 02:02:29 AM
davy was one of the best always looked up to himlike a big brother
hi frankie glad to see that you listen to your wee brother
by coming on to the shortstrand site
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 28, 2010, 02:10:04 AM
Just jumping in here fellas to say I hope you don,t mind but I enjoy your posts as part of my heart will always
be in that neighbourhood. :smile:
hi
 sb i dont think any one will mine so glad you came on
 
shortstrand is so bewitching it seems to call us back to the place were were born
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 28, 2010, 02:12:39 AM
cheers victor1, was talking 2 him 2 weeks ago and cudnt 4 the life of me rem his 1st name.
hi mickbo keep me posted
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frankieleonard on March 28, 2010, 06:21:38 PM
hi
 sb i dont think any one will mine so glad you came on
 
shortstrand is so bewitching it seems to call us back to the place were were born
when ur away from home its still nice to get a bit of news
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 29, 2010, 03:52:15 PM
when ur away from home its still nice to get a bit of news
I know what your saying Frankie i have been here in toronto
for 46 years and it is great that your brother takes time to keep us informed
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 29, 2010, 06:37:16 PM
Just jumping in here fellas to say I hope you don,t mind but I enjoy your posts as part of my heart will always
be in that neighbourhood. :smile:
drop by anytime sydenhambetty, the more the merrier and if u have any good memories we wud love 4 u 2 share them!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on March 29, 2010, 09:17:48 PM
Does anyone remember the old P1. teacher-Miss Carolan(I think) and that vile black stuff she made kids eat when they were naughty{that's hardly a Belfast word},I mean Bad.??
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: GandT on March 30, 2010, 10:57:42 AM
Quote
Does anyone remember the old P1. teacher-Miss Carolan(I think) and that vile black stuff she made kids eat when they were naughty{that's hardly a Belfast word},I mean Bad.??
If St Matthew's Boys' school - I remember her. Mrs Carlin I think it was! Don't remember her precise methods of interrogation and degrading treatment but she always scared the hell out of me. Looking back, most of the teachers there were good teachers of their time. Phil McTaggart (later principal) was an excellent and progressive teacher of the era.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on March 30, 2010, 01:02:50 PM
Anyone remember Danny O,Neill from Seaforde Street. Had a sister Pauline? :smile:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 30, 2010, 02:40:41 PM
Anyone remember Danny O,Neill from Seaforde Street. Had a sister Pauline? :smile:

Sadly Danny died r i p two years ago I played at his funeral in St Matthews. Pauline Married Denis Rooney they live in Downpatrick.
 
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on March 30, 2010, 02:51:56 PM
REP 1, so sorry to hear Danny has passed away. Was one of my wee pals way back when. I know Pauline and
Denis. Denis was my nephew Mal. Fegan,s best friend. Did you know the Thompsons from Bryson Street?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 30, 2010, 03:08:27 PM
Betty I cant think of Thompson's from bryson street but know other Thompson's from Sheriff Street.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on March 30, 2010, 04:01:42 PM
REP 1 I know the Thompsons from Sheriff Street. Harry actually, but the other Thompsons lived in Bryson St.,but
that was before the troubles. Joe and Harry and a sister Lily.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 30, 2010, 04:17:16 PM
I didnt know they came from Bryson street I know them all well Lily lives in Edgar Street.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: GandT on March 30, 2010, 05:10:12 PM
I only ever knew the Thompsons from Bryson Street - maybe some of them live(d) elsewhere in the Strand since / now. Those from Bryson Street that I recall were Billy (PIP), Harry, Joe, Lily, Seamus. I think there were others whom I don't know.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on March 30, 2010, 06:43:17 PM
As I said they lived in Bryson Street before the troubles. Was,nt sure where they all ended up. In my teens
I used to go with Joe. Nice guy and Lily was a nice wee girl. Should you run into them give them my regards.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on March 30, 2010, 07:00:27 PM
There were Thompsons who lived on the mountpottinger rd, Liam, Geraldine, and Martina, they moved away to Ards during the troubles, they were relatives, I think, of the Lilly yous are talking about, but I think that girl lived in Prim st, I think she got married to Pat Kelly from Sherriff st, I could be wrong
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 30, 2010, 07:00:34 PM
Will do Betty Joe lived in Beachfield street for about 30 years then he sold the land for development.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on March 30, 2010, 07:34:41 PM
REP, hope Joe done OK he was one of the best. :smile:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frankieleonard on March 30, 2010, 08:17:40 PM
Will do Betty Joe lived in Beachfield street for about 30 years then he sold the land for development.
there were thomspon lived in sherrif st anthony thomspom davys younger bro still lives on the mountpottinger rd
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on March 30, 2010, 08:21:58 PM
Frankie I knew them as well. Harry and Anthony. Met David years ago. Was sorry to hear he was killed :(
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on March 30, 2010, 08:32:17 PM
there were thomspon lived in sherrif st anthony thomspom davys younger bro still lives on the mountpottinger rd
frankie, I totally forgot about Anthony Thompson, there were other Thompsons on the mountpottinger rd as well, Dessie, lived in 99
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mikee on March 30, 2010, 09:15:05 PM
I have traced my family (Keegan) back to the Short Strand in the 1900's and beyond.  My Grt Aunt was Margaret Keegan married to William O'Hara and was living in Vulcan Street in 1911.  My Grt Grandfather (Thomas Keegan) was living with her after she was married.  My Grt Uncle James Keegan lived in Altcar Street, James was Thomas brother.

As I have always seen myself as an Ulster Scot, I am really chuffed to see my background is not what I always thought.  If anyone can help me add to the family history I would be very grteful.
I'm an O'Hara from Panton St Falls Rd my father William O'Hara and his grand father was a William O'Hara from Vulcan St.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: artibell on March 31, 2010, 03:36:18 PM
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh237/tonymc527/Short%20Strand/Strand11.jpg)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: artibell on March 31, 2010, 03:36:44 PM
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh237/tonymc527/Short%20Strand/Strand05.jpg)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: artibell on March 31, 2010, 03:37:20 PM
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh237/tonymc527/Short%20Strand/ShortStrand27.jpg)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: artibell on March 31, 2010, 03:37:49 PM
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh237/tonymc527/Short%20Strand/ShortStrand26.jpg)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: artibell on March 31, 2010, 03:38:24 PM
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh237/tonymc527/Short%20Strand/ShortStrand21.jpg)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: artibell on March 31, 2010, 03:39:54 PM
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh237/tonymc527/Short%20Strand/ShortStrand18.jpg)

The Photos are from a video called the Short Strand then and now
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frankieleonard on March 31, 2010, 08:28:57 PM
frankie, I totally forgot about Anthony Thompson, there were other Thompsons on the mountpottinger rd as well, Dessie, lived in 99
been in london that long i forgot a lot of faces and famlies does anybody know the whereabouts of willie costello who lived next door to the thomspons in sherrif st
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: artibell on March 31, 2010, 08:55:15 PM
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh237/tonymc527/img034.jpg)
willie in front eva thompson in back
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 31, 2010, 10:00:56 PM
(http://i47.tinypic.com/23a59t.jpg)
Willie is not well at the moment, Lives in Twinbrook.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on April 01, 2010, 06:34:58 PM
(http://i47.tinypic.com/23a59t.jpg)
Willie is not well at the moment, Lives in Twinbrook.

Look at thon ejit on the drums.  ....LOL.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on April 01, 2010, 06:39:41 PM
Look at thon ejit on the drums.  ....LOL.

Bigger ejit than you think that was my wedding we were playing at :smile:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frankieleonard on April 01, 2010, 06:47:58 PM
(http://i47.tinypic.com/23a59t.jpg)
Willie is not well at the moment, Lives in Twinbrook.
arti many thanks for thephotos of willie and the news about him
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on April 01, 2010, 09:55:36 PM

Bigger ejit than you think that was my wedding we were playing at :smile:

You didn't play every set?

What about dancing with the bride etc. ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on April 01, 2010, 10:00:28 PM
You didn't play every set?

What about dancing with the bride etc. ?

We were only doing a couple of songs the Wedding Band were pennyfeather.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on April 02, 2010, 07:13:18 PM
Just want to wish you all a very happy and peaceful Easter. Take care. :air_kiss:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on April 02, 2010, 08:32:01 PM
Just want to wish you all a very happy and peaceful Easter. Take care. :air_kiss:
The same 2 u sydenhambetty and everyone else on this thread.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on April 04, 2010, 12:38:13 AM
I came across an old photograph of 'J Duggan's Shop'.
 
I don't remember it myself does anyone know if it was in the Strand?
 
 :scratch_ones_head: :scratch_ones_head: :scratch_ones_head:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on April 04, 2010, 02:05:36 PM
I came across an old photograph of 'J Duggan's Shop'.
 
I don't remember it myself does anyone know if it was in the Strand?
 
 :scratch_ones_head: :scratch_ones_head: :scratch_ones_head:
thats one 4 REP1,doesnt ring a bell 2 me.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on April 04, 2010, 02:13:27 PM
I don't know either?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on April 04, 2010, 09:06:36 PM
I don't know either?
hi rep1 was duggans shop on the corner of indepening st and shortstrand
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on April 04, 2010, 10:07:11 PM
Frank the only shop I remember at the corner of Indepenant Street on the Strand end,
was Carsons then it was taken over by Davey Bell.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on April 04, 2010, 11:41:35 PM
Here's some of those old photos that I came across that I thought you might like to see.
 
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/JDugganfamilyatshop.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/FQ605.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/ArranStfromClydePlaceinsnow.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/AndersonstJTurleywithpapersfromJBdo.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/BridgeBarfromStrand.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/BeechfieldStreetgaslamp.jpg)
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on April 05, 2010, 02:25:19 AM
Here's some of those old photos that I came across that I thought you might like to see.
 
hi great photos buffaloburger love that snow in anderson st
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/JDugganfamilyatshop.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/FQ605.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/ArranStfromClydePlaceinsnow.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/AndersonstJTurleywithpapersfromJBdo.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/BridgeBarfromStrand.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/BeechfieldStreetgaslamp.jpg)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on April 05, 2010, 07:03:58 AM
Frank that Picture of the snow is Clyde street.
 
Those are magic photos Buffalo keep them coming.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on April 05, 2010, 07:30:48 AM
That photo of Jimmy Turley in Anderson street, by the look on his face you would think he was just about to be robbed.
The wee woman standing at the door was Mrs Martin. Her husband was Sean Martin (Martins Club)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on April 05, 2010, 08:33:55 AM
B burger, your photos are first class, are you sure Duggans shop was in the strand as we know it, could it have been in Foundry st or some where before our time, great snap though
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on April 05, 2010, 01:40:56 PM
Here's some more more photos. Frank the first one's for you!
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/sheriffstarmy.jpg)
 
Army post on corner of Seaford St/Newtownards Rd bombed on 17.09.71(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/nardsrdseafordestarmypost17971.jpg)
 
Corner of Beechfield St/Bryson St 1970
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/BEECHFIELDSTREET.jpg)
 
Mountpottinger Rd date unknown:
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/MpottingerRdfromAltcartoBend.jpg)
 
Cokey Curran in Vulcan Street (Think I might have posted this one before!)
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/Vulcanstcokeyonbollards.jpg)
 
 
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on April 05, 2010, 02:05:44 PM
The date of that Mountpottinger picture was after 1981 the car outside the shop is a Datsun Sunny 14OY 1500 cc
my guess its about 1985-86
 
The car coming up the road is an Opel Manta 1979.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on April 05, 2010, 02:31:07 PM
Buffalo, pictures are great. Thanks for posting them. :smile:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: fisher on April 05, 2010, 05:56:44 PM
the lad on the stone is tony curran
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on April 06, 2010, 01:12:37 AM
 :swoon:
Here's some more more photos. Frank the first one's for you!great photos
buffalowburger that photo of sheriff st must of been takeing 1970-s
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/sheriffstarmy.jpg)
 
Army post on corner of Seaford St/Newtownards Rd bombed on 17.09.71(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/nardsrdseafordestarmypost17971.jpg)
 
Corner of Beechfield St/Bryson St 1970
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/BEECHFIELDSTREET.jpg)
 
Mountpottinger Rd date unknown:
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/MpottingerRdfromAltcartoBend.jpg)
 
Cokey Curran in Vulcan Street (Think I might have posted this one before!)
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/Vulcanstcokeyonbollards.jpg)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on April 06, 2010, 02:01:12 AM
That photo of Jimmy Turley in Anderson street, by the look on his face you would think he was just about to be robbed.
The wee woman standing at the door was Mrs Martin. Her husband was Sean Martin (Martins Club)

He,probably,was.!!  LOL.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on April 07, 2010, 01:56:28 AM
Here are some more photos folks sorry if you've seen them before I've nicked a few from previous posts, the Sheriff St one in partricular comes to mind but it was done with good intentions! I know Frank is new to the forum & he may not have seen this one before!! So enjoy
 
 :smile: :smile: :smile:
 
 
Anderson Street in the snow 1960's
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/Andersonstsnow.jpg)
 
Anderson Street 1960's
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/AndersonsttoMoirafromstrand60s.jpg)
 
Mountpottinger Barracks circa 1983
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/G2-46015.jpg)
 
Thompson Street before the Galvin:  circa 1960's
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/HousesinTsonstbeforeGalvin.jpg)
 
Kids swinging on lampost Youngs Row/Saul St:  circa 1960's
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/KidsonSwingatYoungsRow1.jpg)
 
Picturedrome being demolished  circa 1978
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/Picturedromedemolished.jpg)
 
Seaforde St  circa 1960's
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/SeafordeStfromBeechfield.jpg)
 
Seafords St/Beechfield St:  date unknown
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/SEAFORDEBARRICADE.jpg)
 
Sheriff St 1984
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/SHERIFFST.jpg)
 
Top of the Strand/Albertbidge: date unknown possibly 1960's
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/WOODSTOCKRD.jpg)
 
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on April 07, 2010, 07:57:54 AM
That picture of Sheriff street the Car on the left was mine, It was a Fiat 132 a great car. Parked outside Charley McDowells house.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on April 07, 2010, 01:09:33 PM
 
Yer well out of the Strand now REP1 I'm looking out of the window now at approx 100 people watching the Police raid a house. They've found Heroin & a gun and are still searching the property (no.5). Meanwhile the streets other 2 Drug dealers are perched on my window sill watching everything with interest! This place has gone to the dogs!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on April 07, 2010, 01:40:18 PM
Buffalo, now that makes me sad. I,ll keep my memories thanks to the pictures you have posted. :(
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on April 07, 2010, 02:01:02 PM
Buffalo, now that makes me sad. I,ll keep my memories thanks to the pictures you have posted. :(

Glad you liked the photos Betty, it's a pity the current generation don't seem to have the morals or sense of decency their parents or Grandparents seemed to have, unfortunately it's an all too common occurrence these days. It's no wonder my wife & I are considering moving somewhere else.
 
On a different note, I'm hoping to get a load of new pics transferred off my old computer and on to my laptop, and then eventually post some of them onto this site over the next few weeks. There are quiet a few taken from the 1940's right through to the present day. If you have a particular street or location you'd like to see just say and I'll keep an eye open for it.
 
 :smile:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on April 07, 2010, 03:18:26 PM
Buffalo, that would be great. My family all grew up in Altcar St., my Mother and her Mother before her. All my
sisters and brothers and aunts and uncles.We moved to Sydenham when I was two but I still spent a lot of my
time as a teenager there before I left for Canada. I still have two cousins in Arran Street. Thank you so much
for the time you are taking to keep our memories alive. :air_kiss:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on April 07, 2010, 04:07:31 PM
That picture of Sheriff street the Car on the left was mine, It was a Fiat 132 a great car. Parked outside Charley McDowells house.
THE best car you had REP was the sunbeam rapier, you thought I had forgot about that one ;)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on April 07, 2010, 04:37:41 PM
THE best car you had REP was the sunbeam rapier, you thought I had forgot about that one ;)

That was my first car it had twin carbs, I loved it. didn't have it more than a few moths then the engine needed changing, before that I had a bedford van when I was fifteen.
How the hell did you remember that?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on April 07, 2010, 05:20:26 PM

That was my first car it had twin carbs, I loved it. didn't have it more than a few moths then the engine needed changing, before that I had a bedford van when I was fifteen.
How the hell did you remember that?
the car I had at that time was a HA viva, with more leaks than the titanic, and used more oil than Red Adair, when I saw the sunbeam I just drooled, could never forget that yoke
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bridge ender on April 07, 2010, 08:54:06 PM
Duggans shop was at the corner of middlepath st and foundry st and Khartom st before the sydenham by pass was built.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on April 07, 2010, 09:10:24 PM
Buffalo, that would be great. My family all grew up in Altcar St., my Mother and her Mother before her. All my
sisters and brothers and aunts and uncles.We moved to Sydenham when I was two but I still spent a lot of my
time as a teenager there before I left for Canada. I still have two cousins in Arran Street. Thank you so much
for the time you are taking to keep our memories alive. :air_kiss:

 
do you remember the pattersons from altcar st ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bridge ender on April 07, 2010, 09:17:38 PM
anyone out there remember  Khartom St and the top end of Foundry st    Diver Griffen used to live last house beside the railway wall.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on April 08, 2010, 01:25:26 AM
Duggans shop was at the corner of middlepath st and foundry st and Khartom st before the sydenham by pass was built.

Thanks bridge ender for solving that wee mystery!
 
 :smile: :smile: :smile:
 
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frankieleonard on April 11, 2010, 07:02:34 PM
Don't really knoe but I know a lot of them did before I srarted working there.I suppose they moved to be with family who already moved to Downpatrick
as a kid i can always remember to be a true strandie u live between bells quinn st to hamills
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Alaun on April 12, 2010, 06:46:42 AM
I always thought that if you were born and reared on the Short Strand side of the Mountpottinger Road, that you are a true Strandie. The other side of the the Mountpottinger you are classed as either from St.Matthews or Ballymacarret
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frankieleonard on April 12, 2010, 10:13:11 PM
I always thought that if you were born and reared on the Short Strand side of the Mountpottinger Road, that you are a true Strandie. The other side of the the Mountpottinger you are classed as either from St.Matthews or Ballymacarret
as a kid we use to fight andersos st clyde st and the rest for the bonfire wood on the 15th august bonfires this was before the troubles started and while im here anybody know the the whereabouts of shug mc grevy from anderson st
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Erincyprus on April 12, 2010, 10:21:38 PM
anyone out there remember  Khartom St and the top end of Foundry st    Diver Griffen used to live last house beside the railway wall.

Diver was my Uncle John Griffin 21 khartom Street.  All the men in our Family get called Diver.
 
Erin
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Erincyprus on April 12, 2010, 10:44:56 PM
been in london that long i forgot a lot of faces and famlies does anybody know the whereabouts of willie costello who lived next door to the thomspons in sherrif st

 
Willie lives at the top end of Twinbrook.
 
Erin
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frankieleonard on April 13, 2010, 05:34:31 PM

 
Willie lives at the top end of Twinbrook.
 
Erin
erin thanks for the info if u see him give him my regards
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Erincyprus on April 13, 2010, 08:01:57 PM
erin thanks for the info if u see him give him my regards

My Mum will pass on your regards and let him know about the Forum. 
 
Erin
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on April 13, 2010, 08:50:45 PM
I always thought that if you were born and reared on the Short Strand side of the Mountpottinger Road, that you are a true Strandie. The other side of the the Mountpottinger you are classed as either from St.Matthews or Ballymacarret
growing up as a kid we would always say we were born in the strand
as ballymacarret was a large area and as you know that only r c were born in
the strand
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on April 13, 2010, 09:08:48 PM
growing up as a kid we would always say we were born in the strand
as ballymacarret was a large area and as you know that only r c were born in
the strand
my granda, who hailed from Chemical st used to say he came from the tight end
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on April 13, 2010, 11:59:32 PM
Sorry to disillusion everyone but the whole area of the Short Strand on both sides of the Mountpottinger road, and the Newtowards road up past Conswater are all Ballymacarrett townland. The Lagan is the boundary.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jackieh on April 14, 2010, 11:33:51 AM
how do i get onto the pages that your all on ive tried not happening
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jackieh on April 14, 2010, 11:35:28 AM
just spotted my message sorry my grandfather was from strand and my mum they were the munsters lol my aunt Roseanne still lives there her married name rogan
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on April 14, 2010, 01:58:12 PM
I remember your grandfather Leo I think they cam from Lowery Street.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on April 14, 2010, 02:34:55 PM
I remember your grandfather Leo I think they cam from Lowery Street.
was it not seaforde st ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on April 14, 2010, 04:32:43 PM
was it not seaforde st ?

Probobly right Roadhog where in Seaforde street. was around Lowery Street?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frankieleonard on April 14, 2010, 05:14:48 PM
Sorry to disillusion everyone but the whole area of the Short Strand on both sides of the Mountpottinger road, and the Newtowards road up past Conswater are all Ballymacarrett townland. The Lagan is the boundary.
thier two different places theres the short strand then theres east belfast
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on April 14, 2010, 06:17:04 PM

Probobly right Roadhog where in Seaforde street. was around Lowery Street?
down from cullens shop, nearly facing the entry in Chemical st
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: chink on April 14, 2010, 07:14:22 PM
my husbands family lived in 63 or64 anderson st
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on April 14, 2010, 08:18:34 PM
thier two different places theres the short strand then theres east belfast
well put frankie i like it
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on April 14, 2010, 08:56:15 PM
my husbands family lived in 63 or64 anderson st

We lived there from 58 to 72
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on April 14, 2010, 10:35:59 PM
Rep 1, was out for lunch with wee Joan today to celebrate her birthday. She was singing your praises. :smile:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on April 14, 2010, 10:48:38 PM
Betty, hope you had a good day. i hope to visit them sometime soon.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on April 15, 2010, 12:21:41 AM
Rep 1, that would be great and we,ll take you out to lunch. :smile:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on April 15, 2010, 08:51:06 AM
Rep 1, that would be great and we,ll take you out to lunch. :smile:
Il go to Betty :D
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: chink on April 15, 2010, 11:57:01 AM
rep 1 i think they moved from there in the early 70's he is an o'neill do you remember them?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on April 15, 2010, 04:06:31 PM
just spotted my message sorry my grandfather was from strand and my mum they were the munsters lol my aunt Roseanne still lives there her married name rogan
hi jackieh were are you living now i am living in canada but i still keep
in touch with my sisters in belfast they new your grand-dad and your aunts well
i will keep you posted
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on April 15, 2010, 04:40:50 PM
rep 1 i think they moved from there in the early 70's he is an O'Neill do you remember them?
Sean was a mate of mine, they moved to Beachmount, their fathers name was Barney, mother was called Sadie.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on April 15, 2010, 07:17:25 PM
Sean was a mate of mine, they moved to Beachmount, their fathers name was Barney, mother was called Sadie.
REP, next time you are talking to seanie, please tell him I was asking about him
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: chink on April 16, 2010, 12:08:46 AM
see seany oneill everyday can u give a hint who u are. were u at the anderson st reunion in st matthews we all were
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on April 16, 2010, 12:17:11 AM
Chink read your email.
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on April 16, 2010, 05:52:07 AM
Sean was a mate of mine, they moved to Beachmount, their fathers name was Barney, mother was called Sadie.

Sean and I did a lemonade round when we were kids.One night he fell off the back of the van.We thought he had broken both of his wrists.When we got to his house Barney took one look and said,:They are,ONLY,staved.Hold on a minute."He filled the sink with cold water and told Sean to put his hand in.He reached down and gave his arm and hand a helluva yank.The screaming was awful and before you could blink he had done the other one.As it turned out he was right and next day he was back on the street-Good as Gold.I'll never forget that til the day I die.
I was and still am glad that it wasn't me.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on April 16, 2010, 07:45:33 AM
Sean and I did a lemonade round when we were kids.One night he fell off the back of the van.We thought he had broken both of his wrists.When we got to his house Barney took one look and said,:They are,ONLY,staved.Hold on a minute."He filled the sink with cold water and told Sean to put his hand in.He reached down and gave his arm and hand a helluva yank.The screaming was awful and before you could blink he had done the other one.As it turned out he was right and next day he was back on the street-Good as Gold.I'll never forget that til the day I die.
I was and still am glad that it wasn't me.

Typical of the O'Neills, always taking the hand out of someone  :D
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Wendl on April 16, 2010, 06:05:35 PM
Sean was a mate of mine, they moved to Beachmount, their fathers name was Barney, mother was called Sadie.

They did move from 61 Anderson Street in the 70's....there's Sean, Eddie, Gerrard, Liam, Kevin, Brian, Jim, Maureen....and Paddy,  my husband  lives in Canada now.  Never had the pleasure of meeting Barney....but from the stories I've been told he was quite a character.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on April 17, 2010, 09:25:58 PM

They did move from 61 Anderson Street in the 70's....there's Sean, Eddie, Gerrard, Liam, Kevin, Brian, Jim, Maureen....and Paddy,  my husband  lives in Canada now.  Never had the pleasure of meeting Barney....but from the stories I've been told he was quite a character.

Barney was a "Rough Diamond" to say the least and Sadie had a Heart of Gold.
Luckily,most of the family got their looks from her-Barney wasn't much of a "looker".LOL.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: chink on April 18, 2010, 01:53:20 AM
that's my father in law youre talking about r.i.p
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: chink on April 18, 2010, 02:23:16 AM
hi wendi how are you and paddy doing its jims wife
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Wendl on April 18, 2010, 11:13:25 AM
hi wendi how are you and paddy doing its jims wife

Hi Chink...
 
We're good ... and yourselves?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Wendl on April 18, 2010, 11:15:58 AM
Barney was a "Rough Diamond" to say the least and Sadie had a Heart of Gold.
Luckily,most of the family got their looks from her-Barney wasn't much of a "looker".LOL.

Just off the phone to Our Sean ....says he knows who you are....and that he ran into your brother Thomas outside the Royal the other week...says he hasn't seen him in donkey's....asked where your livin now, and that he's glad to see your still alive...lol  :D   He had a good chuckle about your story!!!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on April 18, 2010, 10:15:54 PM

Just off the phone to Our Sean ....says he knows who you are....and that he ran into your brother Thomas outside the Royal the other week...says he hasn't seen him in donkey's....asked where your livin now, and that he's glad to see your still alive...lol  :D   He had a good chuckle about your story!!!

He wasn't laughing at the time.
I've been living in New Zealand for the last 20 years.
Sorry to hear about Barney.Has Sadie gone,too?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Wendl on April 19, 2010, 12:27:42 AM
HI Gerard...
 
Was talking to our Sadie this morning....she is just a wee gem....!  I'll tell Sean where you are this week.
 
Wendy
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on April 19, 2010, 08:38:13 AM
When you're talking to Sadie again you can tell her that all the Novenas that she said for me(Sena-my mother-twisted her arm) finally paid off.I am very,very happy.
Please pass my regards on to her and Sean.
She must be coming up eighty.good for her.
How's Sean? Married? A hundred kids?? LOL.

Oh and BTW Barney would have laughed at what I said.     .He'd have given me a good cuff round the lug first.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on April 19, 2010, 04:44:55 PM
Hi Gerard hope all is well with you. Have a good day all my homeies  :air_kiss:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frankieleonard on April 28, 2010, 01:13:58 PM
is there nobody in the strand with any news  anybody know the whereabouts of shug mc grevy used to live in anderston st
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: chink on April 28, 2010, 02:20:12 PM
just off the phone tomy brother in law who came from anderson st.  he says he sees shugs brother every day
will try to find out about him.  if i hear anything will let you know.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frankieleonard on April 29, 2010, 01:30:59 PM
many thanks chink been away a long time  reading these pages brings back memories to people i went to school with laim curran paul gibney seamus mooney
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on April 29, 2010, 06:57:04 PM
many thanks chink been away a long time  reading these pages brings back memories to people i went to school with laim curran paul gibney seamus mooney

 
was taking to paul gibney last week.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frankieleonard on April 30, 2010, 01:19:53 PM
give him my regards if u see him again is he still doing the y p pools
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on April 30, 2010, 07:53:22 PM
give him my regards if u see him again is he still doing the y p pools

 
will do
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on May 16, 2010, 11:19:24 AM
give him my regards if u see him again is he still doing the y p pools

 
frankie. seen paul this morning and mentioned your name to him. good to hear from you he said, think hell be checking this site out
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frankieleonard on May 16, 2010, 09:37:07 PM
hi olelad many thanks for the news about paul .whats happened this site nobody seems to be on it lately
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on May 16, 2010, 09:41:35 PM
hi olelad many thanks for the news about paul .whats happened this site nobody seems to be on it lately

 
 
each thread goes like that from time 2 time. sometimes it takes anewbie to breath some new life into them
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on May 17, 2010, 01:23:47 AM

 
 
each thread goes like that from time 2 time. sometimes it takes anewbie to breath some new life into them
hi frankie i was thinking the same thing i thought they were all in spain
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: victor1 on May 17, 2010, 08:13:31 AM
Spain ?? not with this fooookin ash cloud  :swoon:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frankieleonard on May 17, 2010, 10:49:13 AM
hi frankm hows things
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on May 17, 2010, 03:05:53 PM
hi frankm hows things
h i frankie hope every thing is ok with you i will be in belfast sept
but it all depends on the ash from iceland
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frankieleonard on May 18, 2010, 08:26:01 PM
was hopeing for a week in august myself wait till nearer the date because of the ash maybe we will get one year at the same time and sink a few
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on May 19, 2010, 03:19:38 PM
was hopeing for a week in august myself wait till nearer the date because of the ash maybe we will get one year at the same time and sink a few
i will keep you posted frankie we might be home in aug
that sounds good we could sink a few
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on May 20, 2010, 11:03:33 PM
i will keep you posted frankie we might be home in aug
that sounds good we could sink a few
Frank, watch that brother of mine, he will get u drunk then get u into trouble! lol
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on May 21, 2010, 03:22:03 PM
Frank, watch that brother of mine, he will get u drunk then get u into trouble! lol
hi mickybo long time no hear .i have been there a lot of times
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on May 21, 2010, 05:38:42 PM
hi mickybo long time no hear .i have been there a lot of times
keeping a low profile frank, but still keeping a eye on the forum lol.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frankieleonard on May 21, 2010, 07:45:32 PM
mickybo  dont try to get ur big bro a bad name everybody knows im the quiet one of the family dont take any notice of him frank
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on May 21, 2010, 08:36:17 PM
mickybo  dont try to get ur big bro a bad name everybody knows im the quiet one of the family dont take any notice of him frank
hi frankie the only person that i would get into trouble with is the wife
after 50 yrs of marriage she is getting used to it
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on May 21, 2010, 10:19:10 PM
mickybo  dont try to get ur big bro a bad name everybody knows im the quiet one of the family dont take any notice of him frank
dont they always say- it's the quiet ones u have 2 watch!?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: anamcara01 on May 28, 2010, 03:45:37 PM
thomas mguigan a brill guy best irish teacher anyone could have , always remember him with respect and pride, taught me in the provo club in the markets , those where the days.
(http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww226/marketmade/15f406e15c102efe90a731abd4.jpg)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on May 29, 2010, 03:06:37 PM
St Matthews 1979 (http://i46.tinypic.com/302uu05.jpg)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: anamcara01 on May 29, 2010, 03:10:52 PM
DO YOU HAVE ANY OF THE LISA CLUB  at all ????? and any of white street if thats possible please
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on May 29, 2010, 03:13:45 PM
Rep 1, heres that pic i promised u a while ago, Hunt and Hinds 1968              (http://i46.tinypic.com/2ym9id3.jpg)
Marie Leonard, Rita Brady, Una Thompson and unknown.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on May 29, 2010, 03:16:59 PM
DO YOU HAVE ANY OF THE LISA CLUB  at all :scratch_ones_head: ?? and any of white street if thats possible please
sorry i dont have, but if u look back on old short strand threads there have been old pics posted of most of the strand.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: anamcara01 on May 29, 2010, 03:24:44 PM
do you know how i can contact frankie quinn , always run inot him when in a rush and never get oppportunity to ask him, he gave me his mumber a few times but as always im forever in a rush , also a guy called sean mckernan from belfast exposed if any one can help just pm me please i would appreciate your help
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: close on May 29, 2010, 06:51:56 PM
Rep 1, heres that pic i promised u a while ago, Hunt and Hinds 1968              (http://i46.tinypic.com/2ym9id3.jpg)
Marie Leonard, Rita Brady, Una Thompson and unknown.
Micky the one you dont know is Rita Brady's sister sue. the pictures are great. many thanks I have saved them. JImmy Brady is my mothers brother, and my uncle. He was a good boxer in his day.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on May 29, 2010, 07:11:43 PM
Micky the one you dont know is Rita Brady's sister sue. the pictures are great. many thanks I have saved them. JImmy Brady is my mothers brother, and my uncle. He was a good boxer in his day.
Thanks 4 identifing the other person, just wrote down the names and details on the back of the picture,always rem my dad saying jimmy was a good boxer, did he win titles in his day?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: close on May 29, 2010, 07:30:10 PM
Micky I don't know what titles he won but I will ask Pat his son.
I know he did some pro fights.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: teragram on June 08, 2010, 09:55:48 AM
Does anybody know if there's a photo book of the Short Strand similar to the Falls one called Changing times?, where  we have all the old black and white photos, and if so, where can I buy a copy?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Alaun on June 08, 2010, 10:06:35 AM
I know there is a 2010 calendar out with both people and streets round the Strand, I seen it when I was back in January. I have quite a few calendars from over the years all taken round there. If I knew how to put them on the computer I would gladly do it
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: teragram on June 08, 2010, 10:12:29 AM
Thanks for that Alaun, hopefully someone will tell me where I could get one.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Alaun on June 08, 2010, 10:15:27 AM
You should try Frankie Quinn's photo gallery off Rosemary Street, that's if you live in Belfast. It would be quite a trip if you dont
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: artibell on June 08, 2010, 11:02:47 AM
I know there is a 2010 calendar out with both people and streets round the Strand, I seen it when I was back in January. I have quite a few calendars from over the years all taken round there. If I knew how to put them on the computer I would gladly do it

http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,26595.0.html

This will show you how to post photos on the site
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Alaun on June 10, 2010, 10:41:14 AM
The Thomas McGuigan in the photos is my cousin. I keep in touch with him regularly. I last saw him in January when I was back for an old aunt's funeral. he is one of the best people you could meet
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: anamcara01 on June 10, 2010, 11:45:43 AM
The Thomas McGuigan in the photos is my cousin. I keep in touch with him regularly. I last saw him in January when I was back for an old aunt's funeral. he is one of the best people you could meet
tell him mairtin was asking about him , he used to teach me irish many many years ago the best teacher of our language i have ever come across and a wonderful human being.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: celticflower28 on June 10, 2010, 09:31:41 PM
Wow Uncle Mickybo! Da said there was some pics on here of Auntie Marie, Granny and Granda Hugh! They are so cool! How glam was Auntie Marie?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on June 10, 2010, 10:02:33 PM
Wow Uncle Mickybo! Da said there was some pics on here of Auntie Marie, Granny and Granda Hugh! They are so cool! How glam was Auntie Marie?
hi ya and welome 2 the forum! yeah some great pics and hope 2 post some more if i can find who nicked them from winnie's!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: celticflower28 on June 10, 2010, 10:09:33 PM
Cool! I always wondered where those pics went! They were fab! I used to love going back to Lough Lea and looking at them with Winnie when she was alive! Funny reading about some things u got up to as a child!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on June 10, 2010, 10:26:09 PM
Cool! I always wondered where those pics went! They were fab! I used to love going back to Lough Lea and looking at them with Winnie when she was alive! Funny reading about some things u got up to as a child!
have asked around 4 pics but everyone denies having any!?  there were loads so some one has them!!!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Alaun on June 11, 2010, 03:40:19 AM
I will certainly tell Thomas you were asking about him Mairtin. I will be sending him a birthday card next week ( 70th) and I will put a wee note in it. I am here in Australia, but go back a lot, I will be back for christmas this year, and will see him then as well, :smile:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: anamcara01 on June 11, 2010, 08:39:18 AM
I will certainly tell Thomas you were asking about him Mairtin. I will be sending him a birthday card next week ( 70th) and I will put a wee note in it. I am here in Australia, but go back a lot, I will be back for christmas this year, and will see him then as well, :smile:
say to "Tomás lá breith shona duit a Sean Chara" a wonderful human being who left an imprint on many a persons lives and also gave the love of the Irish language to a new generation, also he drove the bus to portlaoise so that many a family could visit their loved ones held prisoners of war in gaols in the north and in the south, Beir Bua Máirtín 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Alaun on June 12, 2010, 12:19:56 AM
I will print this off and put it in his card when I send it next week
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frankieleonard on June 18, 2010, 02:17:06 PM
aluan that frankie quinn u were talking about didnt from kilmood st did he have a bro called pat
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Alaun on June 19, 2010, 03:33:09 AM
I dont know if he did. I know his mother Alice very well, we share cousins. The Thomas McGuigan in my earlier post is her cousin on his fathers side and I'm his cousin on his mother's side
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: victor1 on July 06, 2010, 07:05:46 AM
Frankie Quinn is originally from Clyde Street.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: anamcara01 on July 06, 2010, 09:24:56 PM
Frankie Quinn is originally from Clyde Street.

a great photographer, if you ever see him ask him to tell you the story of barry kelly's car lol 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frankieleonard on July 13, 2010, 03:28:31 PM
victor 1 know frankie well been away to long
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frankieleonard on July 13, 2010, 03:33:37 PM
frank m sorry mate plans have changed cant make belfast this year if ur on facebook send me a friends request love to hear from u youve got the name just look out for the celtic badge
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Aidan on August 11, 2010, 05:52:37 PM
Hello everyone from the Strand, when I was a wee kid there we used to call it Ballymacarrett.  I left Belfast in 1968 and I had my first trip back last year. The place was different with the new houses etc, but the people were the same, good people.  I was in a bar in Castle Street with one of my cousins and she said to me, "there is a fella at the bar who knows you"   As you can expect I couldnt believe it, but sure enough there he was and he remembered me very well, Thanks Paddy,you cant imagine what its like to be away for 42 years and have someone in a bar see you and remember you. Now thats what the Strand/Ballymacarrett is all about.  I only wish I could have caught up with a lot of other people who lived there and I went to school with while I was there.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: ceili on August 17, 2010, 11:21:54 AM
Hello everyone, I just came across this forum (Short Strand) and I am presently reading through all the posts, time consuming but very interesting.
Does anyone remember a guy called Danny Lawlor (I hope I spelt his surname correctly) from the Strand? Or where he is or what happened to him since the late 70's. He would be around the 50 year old mark.
Buffaloburger; I can't view the photo's you posted, (maybe you removed them?) are you able to send them to me or post them back up the forum again?
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: ceili on August 17, 2010, 02:24:33 PM
Well, I finally read through all the posts and hopefully I am up to speed with what's going on here. lol
I have just a few comments on past posts, so forgive me if I go over old material.
victor1 you were talking about getting into a few stoushes with the Leckey's from Memel Street, you must remember the Ludlow's as well then?
olelad, I certainly remember the way the old Strand used to be. I lived in what was left of the original Lagan village at 77 Ravenhill Road from 1959 to 1964. I can remember my Dad taking me by the hand down the Ravenhill Road and across into the Short Strand and following the curve of the road around until it came out beside the Sirocco works. I can remember the posters on the side walls of the 'Talk of the Town' across from the Sirocco works promoting the upcoming showbands. I can also remember my Dad stopping in at the pub on the corner of Memel Street for a pint before dragging me the whole way into Corporation Street to sign on the brew.
I remember when it was still possible to walk into Cluan place from the Mountpottinger Road end. I also remember going to the Picturedrome with my Mum around 1966 to see 'The Green Berets'. I remember that my dad had friends in Mountpottinger that he used to visit (I often wonder who they were), he used to call in at a house on Mountpottinger Road and another on the Short Strand.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: ceili on August 17, 2010, 02:39:58 PM
Did you know that the Sirocco works had a world first when they developed an air-conditioning system for the Royal Victoria Hospital?
My father in-law told me this many a year ago. (he used to work there in the late 50's)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Aidan on August 18, 2010, 04:40:46 AM
HI, I dont know the Leckeys from memel St, but it brings back memories, I got my first "Kicking" at memel St,
I was walking to my Grannys at the Strand with a mate from Oxford St Christian Brothers, as we were walking past Memel ST he yelled out some comment about the Queen and took off running, he never told me and I was too slow and ended up with a kicking, ah well thats the learnin of Belfast hahahahaha
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on August 18, 2010, 02:54:52 PM
when it came to kicking you want to have tryed living up the woodstock in the early 70s. once your head went outside the door you was on the run and if caught a kicking awaited.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Aidan on August 19, 2010, 02:35:58 AM
Hey olelad, I knocked around the Strand, but I lived in the Braniel, I dont think too many days went by that you weren't in a stoush
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on August 20, 2010, 10:11:06 PM
Hey olelad, I knocked around the Strand, but I lived in the Braniel, I dont think too many days went by that you weren't in a stoush

 
indeed.  if you went aday or two without getting in a ruck you was in bed sick !  :smile:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on August 20, 2010, 11:18:43 PM
Hello everyone, I just came across this forum (Short Strand) and I am presently reading through all the posts, time consuming but very interesting.
Does anyone remember a guy called Danny Lawlor (I hope I spelt his surname correctly) from the Strand? Or where he is or what happened to him since the late 70's. He would be around the 50 year old mark.
Buffaloburger; I can't view the photo's youposted, (maybe you removed them?) are you able to send them to me or post them back up the forum again?
Hi celli, went to school with danny lawlor but i moved away from the strand in the early 80's and havent seen him in many years, will try 2 find out wat he at these days and gte back 2 u, u described the strand down 2 a tee, i lived in the shadow of the sirocco works, in fact it was in our back yard! also had a few run in with the leckys down around the bridge end.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: anamcara01 on August 21, 2010, 03:23:47 PM
Hello everyone, I just came across this forum (Short Strand) and I am presently reading through all the posts, time consuming but very interesting.
Does anyone remember a guy called Danny Lawlor (I hope I spelt his surname correctly) from the Strand? Or where he is or what happened to him since the late 70's. He would be around the 50 year old mark.
Buffaloburger; I can't view the photo's youposted, (maybe you removed them?) are you able to send them to me or post them back up the forum again?

danny lawlor is still in the strand as is his brother terry a great fellow both of them , and any one from the strand its self would only be too happy to put you in touch with him, i think he is a regular in the st matts club on a saturday
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on August 26, 2010, 04:54:42 PM
That picture of Sheriff street the Car on the left was mine, It was a Fiat 132 a great car. Parked outside Charley McDowells house.
      hi rep1 was home last week and received a cd called
no time to say goodbye i belived it was preformed by you
if so it is very-very good keep up the good work
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on August 26, 2010, 05:22:16 PM
Thanks Frank, its dedicated to the Firemen who went up the twin towers when everyone else was coming down. That's what I call hero's.
 
Hope you had a great time theres nothing like coming home.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Aidan on August 26, 2010, 05:46:25 PM
Rep1, can you send me your e mail address?  Frank M, I would love to see that Pic, Sherrif St has many a great memory and I  dreamed of owning a Fiat as a teenager.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Aidan on August 26, 2010, 05:47:36 PM
PS  I still cant spel LOL
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on August 26, 2010, 06:26:14 PM
Rep1, can you send me your e mail address?  Frank M, I would love to see that Pic, Sherrif St has many a great memory and I  dreamed of owning a Fiat as a teenager.
Aidan, when REP1 was buying it I told him not to, it was a Fiat worse than death
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on August 26, 2010, 07:44:07 PM
Rep1, can you send me your e mail address?  Frank M, I would love to see that Pic, Sherrif St has many a great memory and I  dreamed of owning a Fiat as a teenager.
(http://i37.tinypic.com/2621jrt.jpg)

Road hog the Volvo in the picture is mine as well
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: marketmade on August 26, 2010, 08:04:10 PM
Hello everyone, I just came across this forum (Short Strand) and I am presently reading through all the posts, time consuming but very interesting.
Does anyone remember a guy called Danny Lawlor (I hope I spelt his surname correctly) from the Strand? Or where he is or what happened to him since the late 70's. He would be around the 50 year old mark.
Buffaloburger; I can't view the photo's youposted, (maybe you removed them?) are you able to send them to me or post them back up the forum again?

hi,im from the market but go in to the strand daily, and  i no danny ,as far as i no he is still  in the strand living and doing well,i have seen him ragulary ;)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Aidan on August 27, 2010, 03:24:59 AM
Hi Rep1, what end of Sherrif st is that pic taken from, it looks to me that it is from the Seaforde St end, if it is then that station wagon is just about parked outside my grannys old house
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on August 27, 2010, 07:36:21 AM
Hi Rep1, what end of Sherrif st is that pic taken from, it looks to me that it is from the Seaforde St end, if it is then that station wagon is just about parked outside my grannys old house
You are right the photo was taken from Seaforde ST on the the left would have been Mary Harpers shop on the left corner. My guess going by the cars age at the time it must have been around 1983
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Aidan on August 27, 2010, 11:38:59 AM
Hey Rep member I said it brought back memories, the woman walking across the road could even be my auntie Sarahann or her daughter peggy.  Maybe I am wrong or just an oul dreamer these days but the friendship there was in them wee streets seems to be a thing of the past the world over these days
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on August 28, 2010, 03:55:36 PM
Thanks Frank, its dedicated to the Firemen who went up the twin towers when everyone else was coming down. That's what I call hero's.
 
Hope you had a great time theres nothing like coming home.
      rep1 if i ever get married again you will be the wedding singer
listened to my fab  the first of MAY  by the the bee-gees my sister told me
that you sang it on the cd i am playing in my car every day since i got back to toronto
keep in touch
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: roy231 on August 28, 2010, 05:44:18 PM
anyone know the donnallys from valcan street
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on August 28, 2010, 08:01:55 PM
Frank there is are friends of mine in Toronto Jimmy and Joan Greer. And another musician Sean Straney. maybe you know them.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on August 28, 2010, 10:53:39 PM
Frank there is are friends of mine in Toronto Jimmy and Joan Greer. And another musician Sean Straney. maybe you know them.
[/quoteh hi rep1 would sean straney be related to hugo straney
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: pq on August 28, 2010, 11:12:20 PM
my uncle paddy lavery lived in the short strand he was a marrket man but like many market men he married and moved to the strand i would love to know if anyone knew him .
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on August 29, 2010, 08:16:24 AM

Yes frank he is Hugos brother I havent met Hugo but he has been playing that CD you have on his Radio program in Toronto.
His Brother Sean is a brilliant singer and entertainer if you come across him tell him I was asking for him.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: irishtiger on September 02, 2010, 01:39:17 AM
Hi all just reading down through this post and find it great ;)
Do any of you people know the cranes and do ya have any photos ::)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: ceili on September 02, 2010, 07:22:28 AM
You mean Goliath Crane and his younger (but bigger) brother Sampson Crane? I knew them personally, I used to work under them, a couple of more decent big fellas ye cuddint hope to meet.
 :D
 
 
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: irishtiger on September 02, 2010, 10:25:08 AM
You mean Goliath Crane and his younger (but bigger) brother Sampson Crane? I knew them personally, I used to work under them, a couple of more decent big fellas ye cuddint hope to meet.
 :D
No Ray, george,brian and ned and their families and where did they go (not the yellow ones lol) :scratch_ones_head:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: irishtiger on September 02, 2010, 11:56:09 AM
Hithe wee girl 2nd from left, is that one of the cranes. 
(http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww226/marketmade/1b3b429cfb1b2ab637afd1db5a.jpg)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on September 02, 2010, 01:06:52 PM
No Ray, george,brian and ned and their families and where did they go (not the yellow ones lol) :scratch_ones_head:
hi irishtiger i beleive they moved to downpatrick may be around that area
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on September 02, 2010, 03:56:49 PM
Ned Crane now lives in Killough most of the family live in Downpatrick.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: irishtiger on September 02, 2010, 04:04:19 PM
Many thanks for that REP :smile:  Do you know what years he left ?? 70s/80s
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on September 02, 2010, 04:23:03 PM
Many thanks for that REP :smile:  Do you know what years he left ?? 70s/80s
Late seventies. Ned worked for Aiken Promotions as personal security for many of the big names that played Ireland.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: irishtiger on September 04, 2010, 12:54:44 AM
 :hi: New to this forum lads and trying to tress cousins down??
is there any cranes in the strand?? and who??
irish :hi:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on September 04, 2010, 01:05:33 AM
Neds son Jim has a garage on the Oldpark rd in the old cinima building.
 
or try
Cranes TyresCranes Tyress=5215473224947029541Place page (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?hl=en&rlz=1R2GPEA_en-GB&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=cranes+tyres+downpatrick&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=cranes+tyres&hnear=Downpatrick,+Down&cid=10166851281612487953)
40 Flying Horse Road
Downpatrick BT30 6QW
028 4461 2490
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: irishtiger on September 04, 2010, 01:21:40 AM
 :hi: Many thanks Rep, trying to work something out, anyone know off RILEYS Court and the Cranes that come from there in 1911.There was Patrick and his second wife who was 20years his younger, her name was Ethel. His first wife died and i am trying to find out what she died off and what happen to there children (3) sons John,Joseph
and Edward and were did they go???
irish :hi:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on September 04, 2010, 12:45:43 PM
:hi: Many thanks Rep, trying to work something out, anyone know off RILEYS Court and the Cranes that come from there in 1911.There was Patrick and his second wife who was 20years his younger, her name was Ethel. His first wife died and i am trying to find out what she died off and what happen to there children (3) sons John,Joseph
and Edward and were did they go???
irish :hi:
Try this thread for Riellys Court http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6297.0.html (http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6297.0.html)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on October 05, 2010, 07:15:30 PM
welcome to the forum
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: marketmade on October 06, 2010, 09:54:53 PM
RILEYS Court was in the Market m8  ;)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on October 31, 2010, 04:10:14 PM
I was in Belfast on sat, while the wife was shopping I took a dander over the bridge to the strand. I noticed one of the houses has a street name sign on it saying Chemical st,is the new st really called this, or was is just put there for as a reminder of the original Chemical st.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: noots123 on November 19, 2010, 10:45:55 PM
Yes it really is called Chemical Street the next street up to the left is Vulcan Street.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on November 20, 2010, 07:05:19 AM
thanks noots, I came from Chemical st, so they didnt keep sherriff st then,
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frankieleonard on November 26, 2010, 08:24:21 PM
frank m r u still alive and kicking hope u had a safe journey back keep in touch
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on November 26, 2010, 09:56:12 PM
frank m r u still alive and kicking hope u had a safe journey back keep in touch
hi frankie great to hear from you still alive and kicking i change my e/mail address and screwed every thing up anyway i hope you yours have a great christmas
I WILL KEEP IN TOUCH
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frankieleonard on November 28, 2010, 09:03:30 PM
hi frank m many thanks for the christmas greetings  hope you and your family have the same i will raise a glass in your honour xmas morning and may santa be good to u and bring u what u really want
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on November 30, 2010, 06:52:41 PM
come on all you strand people, this site is starting to die out, dont let it !!!!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Erincyprus on November 30, 2010, 06:59:08 PM
Anyone remember Judges Basket weaving Shop?  They made all the Baskets for bikes and so on.
 
 
 
Erin
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on November 30, 2010, 07:37:16 PM
cant recall Eryn, where was it, and when did it close
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bridge ender on November 30, 2010, 08:55:21 PM
Bridge end  facing where the Old short strand, Mountpottinger rd and N'ards rd met. Nabney's fruit and veg shop and Mary O'Neills paper shop.Then the Gateway Bar. Then the area was Ballymacarrett and The Strand was just a street in the area.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on November 30, 2010, 09:13:49 PM
Does anyone know if the Barracks on the mountpottinger Rd is gone yet? No we won,t let this wee thread die. :air_kiss:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bridge ender on November 30, 2010, 09:20:38 PM
The barracks is still in place.It hasn't been demolished yet!!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on November 30, 2010, 09:22:09 PM
Well thats one landmark still standing otherwise I won,t know my way around. :D
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on November 30, 2010, 09:40:09 PM
Bridge ender,is it occupied, are the cops still using it
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bridge ender on November 30, 2010, 10:34:21 PM
Its empty at present but for sale signs on it.  Maybe St Matthews Hosing will convert it to flats
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bridge ender on November 30, 2010, 10:36:58 PM
Anyone out there from Middlepath st  foundry st or Khartoum st
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: girl from the block on December 01, 2010, 10:17:20 PM
Contractors are now in the barracks starting to gut it out
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bridge ender on December 01, 2010, 10:33:26 PM
Anyone Remember  The Sally Army Citadel on the Mountpottinger Road.Their Silver Band used to march from it around the area.Before the troubles of course
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: grannyspice on December 01, 2010, 10:36:59 PM
Anyone Remember  The Sally Army Citadel on the Mountpottinger Road.Their Silver Band used to march from it around the area.Before the troubles of course
Pleased to hear it. It is an absolute eyesore
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on December 01, 2010, 10:51:01 PM
Anyone Remember  The Sally Army Citadel on the Mountpottinger Road.Their Silver Band used to march from it around the area.Before the troubles of course

I remember it well on the corner of Carlton Street where I lived, They played there through the troubles until the late seventies.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bridge ender on December 01, 2010, 10:58:12 PM
I left Ballymacarrett in 1961 lived on bridge end at bottom of Short Strand.went to St.Matts.Area was wiped out for flyover at bottom of By pass.most families went to Turf Lodge
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on December 01, 2010, 11:02:24 PM
I left Ballymacarrett in 1961 lived on bridge end at bottom of Short Strand.went to St.Matts.Area was wiped out for flyover at bottom of By pass.most families went to Turf Lodge
That was before my time but I remember being brought to Foundry st as kid to visit people my mother knew.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Wendl on December 01, 2010, 11:07:56 PM
Anyone know if the new Calendar is out????
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Paige on December 02, 2010, 04:43:59 AM
Anyone got any memories of Anderson Street dance hall
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on December 02, 2010, 07:51:37 AM
Anyone got any memories of Anderson Street dance hall

Well before my time but my family lived in Anderson st, until the bomb destroyed the street in 1972. The dance hall was nick named the Hut, and was demolished about 1950 it was a waste ground where we played as kids until it was was fenced in, and used for a tyre store by Jimmy George. around the mid sixties.
from what I was told it was a very popular dance hall during the war years. As far as I know my uncle J B worked and danced in the hut.
In the photo below, the hut was on the left where the fence is.
 
(http://i53.tinypic.com/2wpjqyb.jpg)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on December 02, 2010, 08:38:05 AM
Anyone Remember  The Sally Army Citadel on the Mountpottinger Road.Their Silver Band used to march from it around the area.Before the troubles of course
yes bridge ender I do
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on December 02, 2010, 09:35:56 AM
REP 1 played the triangle with the sally ann, thats he got into music.lol. hes still learning it :D
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: doare. on December 02, 2010, 09:53:06 AM
rep1 i was at georges daughters wedding, when she married a friend of mine from the divis area, they went to canada after that.i used to deliver lemonade around there, and booze, in the sixties.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on December 02, 2010, 11:51:17 AM
REP 1, the hut you are taking about, I think, was also the first place where St Matthews had a boxing club, and I think your uncle, J B, was the trainer
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on December 02, 2010, 04:00:48 PM
REP 1, the hut you are taking about, I think, was also the first place where St Matthews had a boxing club, and I think your uncle, J B, was the trainer
You might be right about the boxing club there is something in the back of my mind tells me you are right. JB (Jimmy Brady) was a pro fighter.
There is more to the triangle than you think you have to know your ding from your dong. get it wrong and your are in the [censored]*.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on December 02, 2010, 04:08:43 PM
rep1 i was at georges daughters wedding, when she married a friend of mine from the divis area, they went to Canada after that.i used to deliver lemonade around there, and booze, in the sixties.
Doare most of George family moved to Killough. They have a famous film maker director in the family. (Terry George) also wrote the film. (IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on December 02, 2010, 07:36:53 PM
where does Terry live REP
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on December 02, 2010, 08:01:05 PM
where does Terry live REP
California
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on December 04, 2010, 07:15:47 AM
If you were standing in Seaforde St looking up Sherriff St towards the mountpottinger Rd, on the right side of Sherriff St, about half way up, there was a large gap between the houses, as if a building had once been there, can any one elaborate ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on December 04, 2010, 12:44:05 PM
If you were standing in Seaforde St looking up Sherriff St towards the mountpottinger Rd, on the right side of Sherriff St, about half way up, there was a large gap between the houses, as if a building had once been there, can any one elaborate ?
About 1971 there was a bobby trap (IED in today's language) bomb, set to go off in an empty house when the military raided one of the houses. Residents and army were both injured, lucky there was no one killed. The house and one on either side had to be demolished. leaving that gap in the street.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on December 04, 2010, 02:58:05 PM
Thanks REP 1
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: yarrummot on December 07, 2010, 01:14:37 PM
We used to go to Templemore Avenue baths on a Thursday night for Jim Mc Dermott's swimming club!!!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on December 07, 2010, 03:37:49 PM
We used to go to Templemore Avenue baths on a Thursday night for Jim Mc Dermott's swimming club!!!
Is that Jim Mermott that lived in Seaforde st.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Rosiejoe on December 07, 2010, 04:10:55 PM
We used to go to Templemore Avenue baths on a Thursday night for Jim Mc Dermott's swimming club!!!

I went to St Matthews school and we used to go to Templemore Ave baths on a Monday night to learn to swim, but I can't remember the name of the club, or the people who taught us.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on December 07, 2010, 07:16:15 PM
Is that Jim Mermott that lived in Seaforde st.
No REP, I think the Name was Mc Dermot, I went on thurs nites as well. He was a big man, his son could swim like a fish. If we have got his name wrong, someone on the forum will put us right.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on December 07, 2010, 08:03:48 PM
No REP, I think the Name was Mc Dermot, I went on thurs nites as well. He was a big man, his son could swim like a fish. If we have got his name wrong, someone on the forum will put us right.

I spelled the name wrongly it was McDermot I was talking about he was a big guy later years had beard and lived between Comber st and Kilmood st.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Paige on December 08, 2010, 10:50:03 AM
Thanks very much Rep1 for putting that photo of Anderson Street on, you made one old lady very happy. She was visiting me and I was showing her all the posts from people at home and she wanted to have a go at asking something.
If I know her she will be wanting to post the next time she visits.  :smile: :smile: :smile:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on December 08, 2010, 03:09:36 PM
Paige are you from the area?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on December 08, 2010, 04:51:54 PM
Rep 1, just jumping in here to wish you and yours a very Happy Christmas and the very best in the coming year.
Keep the music going. :air_kiss:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on December 08, 2010, 05:17:23 PM
keep the music going, agh betty, dont encourage him ::)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on December 08, 2010, 06:55:00 PM
Rep 1, just jumping in here to wish you and yours a very Happy Christmas and the very best in the coming year.
Keep the music going. :air_kiss:
Thanks a million Betty the same to you, and will pass on my best wishes to Joan and Jimmy Greer. Nevermind road hog, he is just depressed that he cant get out in the snow, he is getting used with daytime TV. Happy Christmas road hog to you and your family. :smile:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on December 08, 2010, 07:43:32 PM
same to you and yours big lad
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on December 08, 2010, 07:45:37 PM
RoadHog, Wishing you and all my homies a very Happy and Peaceful Christmas and contentment in the New Year. :air_kiss:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on December 08, 2010, 07:47:18 PM
Thanks betty, same to you as well :air_kiss:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frankieleonard on December 10, 2010, 02:51:55 PM
wishing all a very merry christmas please keep the news flowing havent been home for over 5 years rely on u to keep me up to date whats happening in the district strandie born and bred
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on December 10, 2010, 05:55:16 PM
Thanks a million Betty the same to you, and will pass on my best wishes to Joan and Jimmy Greer. Nevermind road hog, he is just depressed that he cant get out in the snow, he is getting used with daytime TV. Happy Christmas road hog to you and your family. :smile:
Im not allowed out, REP, minding the other grandkids while Fiona gets back on her feet, mustard, wouldnt be the word for it. Put the heating up full blast, they started to nod off,they slept like logs, you try and watch the disney channel from 8 in the morn till 6 at night, I know every nursery rhyme off by heart. :D 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on December 10, 2010, 07:28:00 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on December 11, 2010, 01:13:10 AM

I spelled the name wrongly it was McDermot I was talking about he was a big guy later years had beard and lived between Comber st and Kilmood st.

Would that have been Frankie McDermott?
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on December 11, 2010, 12:18:50 PM

Would that have been Frankie McDermott?
I think you are right Buffalo, Seasons greeting to you and Francie and all the family.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on December 11, 2010, 11:32:00 PM
I think you are right Buffalo, Seasons greeting to you and Francie and all the family.

Merry Christmas and a peaceful New Year to you Rep1 and your family.
 
Merry Christmas to all here on the forum
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: kraftcheese on December 12, 2010, 05:23:10 AM
Anyone Remember  The Sally Army Citadel on the Mountpottinger Road.Their Silver Band used to march from it around the area.Before the troubles of course

Remember it well.  Used to attend it regularly with my wee granny when I was a young girl.   :smile:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on December 12, 2010, 05:46:23 PM
REP. did you find out were that shop was
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on December 13, 2010, 04:08:17 PM
REP. did you find out were that shop was
Not as of yet, but the man in the photo has a likeness to the Smiths that ran Harper's shop.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on December 13, 2010, 04:42:40 PM
No REP, its definately not harpers,look at the street/ road out side, could it be the Albertbridge rd your looking at, or is it Murrays shop, on Woodstock st?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on January 06, 2011, 07:05:23 PM
where abouts exactly, was morrows chippie
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on January 06, 2011, 07:27:47 PM
where abouts exactly, was morrows chippie
There were two chippies in the Strand both named Morrow but they were not related in any way. one was Sam Morrows, salvation army member. both he and his wife were nice people, their shop was at the corner of Altcar street. The other was Tucker Morrows at the corner of Woodstock street. Tucker is now the Head chef in the Balmoral hotel.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on January 06, 2011, 07:57:07 PM
corner of woodstalk st and where REP
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on January 06, 2011, 09:12:38 PM
REP1, do you know who owns the Balmoral Hotel? :smile:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on January 06, 2011, 09:16:44 PM
REP1, do you know who owns the Balmoral Hotel? :smile:
The Balmoral is owned by a guy called Pat Walsh. 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on January 07, 2011, 12:54:51 AM
The Balmoral is owned by a guy called Pat Walsh.
Used to be owned by Danny Rice he also owned the intercontinental in Chichester street now owns the Crawfordsburn Inn.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on January 07, 2011, 12:57:17 AM
corner of woodstalk st and where REP
In the old shop that was Eddie Echles, on the corner of Thompson street.
 
By they we all enjoyed our session with you guys at the Woodville Arms.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Sheriff St on January 09, 2011, 01:35:46 AM
Lived right across from the sally ann at  88 Mountpottenger rd. emigrated to Canada in 1973
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on January 09, 2011, 04:09:34 PM
Lived right across from the sally ann at  88 Mountpottenger rd. emigrated to Canada in 1973
sheriff st were was the sally ann on mountpottinger rd i was born in sheriff st
i also emirgrated to canada 1964  :smile:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on January 09, 2011, 04:20:45 PM
sheriff st were was the sally ann on mountpottinger rd i was born in sheriff st
i also emirgrated to canada 1964  :smile:
Frank it was on the corer of Carlton st next to Perry st.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on January 10, 2011, 08:07:50 PM
sheriff st were was the sally ann on mountpottinger rd i was born in sheriff st
i also emirgrated to canada 1964  :smile:
[/quote
 
 

 
 
 
was talking to bloke this morning by the name of smith who said he was born in sheriff st. they moved up to twinbrook.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frankieleonard on January 10, 2011, 09:26:08 PM
hi frank m long time no hear happy new year to u and your family  hope u had a great christmas
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sky on January 12, 2011, 07:16:43 PM
I used to walk home from work with 2 guys, Jimmy Irving and Jimmy Erne,
We did Fraser St, Seaforde St, that's all I can remember. Jimmy Irving lived in Sheriff St, he went to Canada with Katha.  Jimmy Erne lived in Arran St or Clyde St., I don't know what became of him but he was a fun guy, all this happened about 1949/50. If you're still about lads; get in touch.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: justlookin on January 12, 2011, 09:34:55 PM
does anyone remember margaret dines who lived in sheriff street
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on January 13, 2011, 06:56:43 PM
hi frank m long time no hear happy new year to u and your family  hope u had a great christmas
hi frankieleonard  thanks we did have a really good new year and christmas
my computer was acting up over the holidays back to normal now hope you and the family had a great time over the holidays people from belfast know how to enjoy them self/s talk to you soon
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on January 13, 2011, 07:22:26 PM
does anyone remember margaret dines who lived in sheriff street
justlooking, I asked that question my self some time ago. I remember Margaret well, ginger hair. As far as I know she is living in Downpatrick with her husband, Jim Harland from the markets. How do you know her?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Harlo75 on January 14, 2011, 12:59:07 PM
justlooking, I asked that question my self some time ago. I remember Margaret well, ginger hair. As far as I know she is living in Downpatrick with her husband, Jim Harland from the markets. How do you know her?

They've been divorced for a long time, dunno where she is now though, Jim's my uncle
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Harlo75 on January 14, 2011, 01:50:02 PM
Any one remember the McLaughlin's from the Short Strand, moved out in the 60's & 70's?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on January 14, 2011, 03:11:13 PM
Any one remember the McLaughlin's from the Short Strand, moved out in the 60's & 70's?
Yes Harlo 75, I remember Sally and Matthew from Seaforde st, is that the Mc Laughlins your thinking of ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Harlo75 on January 14, 2011, 03:13:42 PM
Yes Harlo 75, I remember Sally and Matthew from Seaforde st, is that the Mc Laughlins your thinking of ?

Not sure about Matthew, Sally was my mum, sister of Peter, Paul and Patricia and Maura?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: apalachie on January 14, 2011, 04:21:49 PM
Hi folks, could anyone tell me if in 1901 St Matthews would have come under Urban No 12 regarding weddings etc or if there is another R/C chapel over that direction.

                                                                Thanks.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: justlookin on January 19, 2011, 07:28:08 PM
Margaret is living in Bangor I see her a lot
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on January 19, 2011, 08:13:01 PM
Justlookin I sent you a personal message, have a look at it
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: dogface on January 22, 2011, 12:01:44 AM
I used to walk home from work with 2 guys, Jimmy Irving and Jimmy Erne,
We did Fraser St, Seaforde St, that's all I can remember. Jimmy Irving lived in Sheriff St, he went to Canada with Katha.  Jimmy Erne lived in Arran St or Clyde St., I don't know what became of him but he was a fun guy, all this happened about 1949/50. If you're still about lads; get in touch.
JIMMY IRVING MARRIED MY SISTER (RIP)WAS WITH HIM BEFORE  XMAS NOW IN N.Z SINCE 1961 ...DONT KNOW WHAT  HAPPENED TO JIM ERNE  .IF U WISH SEND ME YOUR MESSAGE BY PM         AND I WILL SEND ADDRESS IN N .Z
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Erincyprus on January 23, 2011, 03:24:43 PM
Hi folks, could anyone tell me if in 1901 St Matthews would have come under Urban No 12 regarding weddings etc or if there is another R/C chapel over that direction.

                                                                Thanks.

Holy Rosary was the Closest or St. Anthony's at Willowfield, Cregagh Road I think apalachie I was Baptised in Holy Rosary Parents are from Vulcan Street close to St. Matthews.
 
Contact Theresa at St. Matthews via their email on the net she looked up all my stuff last year for me.
 
Erin 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Webby on February 12, 2011, 10:06:28 PM
 ;)  Hi I am new to your belfast forum, reading a lot of interesting facts about the Short Strand, I was born in Arran St, the old Arran Street.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Erincyprus on February 12, 2011, 10:32:44 PM
Welcome Webby my Family are from Vulcan Street.

Enjoy the Forum and the Craic.
 
 
Erin
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Webby on February 12, 2011, 11:14:37 PM
Thanks Erin
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bridge ender on February 13, 2011, 01:00:58 PM
Whats going to happen to the new Short Strand now that the development company has gone bust .Maybe the people should ask for a riverside park in the mean time rather than a vacant building site
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Alaun on February 14, 2011, 10:44:28 AM
Hi Webby, I was born in Prim Street, but we lived in 19 Arran Street, for 6 years. My granny lived in 33 Arran street, she was there  until she died in 1967, so that would have been about 60 years
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Alaun on February 14, 2011, 10:50:08 AM
Hello Skye, in reply to your query about Jimmy Erne, from Arran Street, I'm nearly sure he went to Australia in the early 50's, and was best man for my cousin Joe McGuigan, from Clyde street, who went out there in 1952
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Webby on February 14, 2011, 02:21:02 PM
Hi Alaun
 I was born in No 10 Arran street, was no 19 Mrs Quinn?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Webby on February 14, 2011, 03:20:06 PM
Hi Erin
 
My Aunt and Uncle lived in Vulcan Street, Jane & Harry O'Neil
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Alaun on February 15, 2011, 04:25:54 AM
Yes you're right Maisie Quinn moved in when we went to England. When we came back we lived in Lisbon street, then we got a house up at Dundonald
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: smith19 on February 18, 2011, 01:52:53 PM
Anyone remember Jimmy Scott from Thompson Street. He used to be a horse trader.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Webby on February 18, 2011, 02:54:20 PM
Hi Smith 19
 
Welcome, I'me a newcomer myself, lived in Arran Street
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: chink on February 23, 2011, 01:34:41 PM
would anyone have or know anyone who would have any old photos of the o'neill family  who lived in anderson st  barney and sadie o'neill were the parents   would be gratefully appreciated  they are to make up an album  thanks
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: boxer1949 on February 24, 2011, 04:59:10 PM
Any photos of Laverys pub
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bridge ender on February 26, 2011, 11:34:22 AM
a local publication by St Matthew's group  Long Before your Time  had photos in it and I think Lavery's was in it.It used to be known as the Glentoran Lounge
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on February 26, 2011, 07:17:43 PM
Bridge ender, your not far away, there was the Glentoran lounge, and the oval bar in the same pub
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: justlookin on February 27, 2011, 12:08:12 PM
Would anyone out there have a dvd or video of old short strand say 60s and 70s i would be very interested in getting a copy
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on February 27, 2011, 06:30:06 PM
Bridge ender, your not far away, there was the Glentoran lounge, and the oval bar in the same pub
[/quote
 
 
was it called after the football team ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bridge ender on February 27, 2011, 07:30:25 PM
before the troubles a lot of local Ballymacarrett and short strand people followed Glentoran.Lavery's bar had a supporters club .
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on February 27, 2011, 08:31:50 PM
Just jumping in to say HELLO to all the Short Strand crowd. :air_kiss:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: boxer1949 on February 28, 2011, 10:10:47 AM
before the troubles a lot of local Ballymacarrett and short strand people followed Glentoran.Lavery's bar had a supporters club .
ANY PHOTO'S
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: gan chota on March 02, 2011, 09:14:54 PM
Does anyone remember goojin jones from sheriff st
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 02, 2011, 09:35:25 PM
Welcome to the forum. i remember Goodian well he was one of the characters that made the area. I went to school with his son Paul, and knew his other son Joesph RIP (jokey) who always had a smile on his face even though he was ill.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 02, 2011, 09:36:03 PM
Welcome to the forum. i remember Googian well he was one of the characters that made the area. I went to school with his son Paul, and knew his other son Joesph RIP (jokey) who always had a smile on his face even though he was ill.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Erincyprus on March 02, 2011, 10:32:37 PM
Does anyone remember goojin jones from sheriff st

My Uncle John and Nethie's Mate married to Josie.  My Aunt has some stories of Goojin....lol..lol
 
Eugene actually...
 
 
Erin
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: gan chota on March 02, 2011, 11:19:03 PM
There was a brother who lived in Killough, i cant remember his name but he was married to Geoff o neill's sister from the Market. Is he still alive.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Erincyprus on March 02, 2011, 11:36:14 PM
My Mum says maybe Goojin's Son gan chota
 
 
 
Erin
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 03, 2011, 07:27:09 AM
There was a brother who lived in Killough, i cant remember his name but he was married to Geoff o neill's sister from the Market. Is he still alive.
Joesph lived in around that area of Downpatrick and Killough.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on March 03, 2011, 10:36:16 AM
I knew the Joneses well, especially Paul and Joseph, they had older brothers, Henry, Thomas and I think there were two more. they had at least one older sister, good guys as I can remember
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 03, 2011, 01:37:22 PM
I knew the Joneses well, especially Paul and Joseph, they had older brothers, Henry, Thomas and I think there were two more. they had at least one older sister, good guys as I can remember
the sisters name was jean they lived faceing us in sherrif st
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 03, 2011, 05:39:34 PM
the sisters name was jean they lived faceing us in sherrif st
there was john  jim  joseph  paul  thomas   henry and also goodeng name was henry
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 03, 2011, 06:32:46 PM
there was john  jim  joseph  paul  thomas   henry and also goodeng name was henry
(there is a little story i must share)a long time ago i asked my dad where did goodeng jones got his nick name from according to my dad when they were kids playing in the streets of shortstrand they would play cowboys and indians and goodeng would always want to be the good guy i dont know how true that was but i beleived my dad
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: janice donnelly on March 07, 2011, 09:05:42 PM
 :smile: Hi, I'm new to the forum, I'm a writer originally from Belfast, my first novel set in Belfast Buying Time is due for publication this month, here's the link to read the opening chapters,

http://nightreading.ning.com/profiles/blogs/buying-time (http://nightreading.ning.com/profiles/blogs/buying-time)

if you like it, I'll post again with further detail on publication date etc. Thanks J.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Sheriff St on March 08, 2011, 12:28:22 AM
I think it was John Jones who married the O'Neill from the market
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: janice donnelly on March 16, 2011, 11:52:25 PM
 :smile: Many thanks for all the hits on my blog Buying Time, the novel is now in the final stages of editing and will be available very soon, I'll post all the details when finalised! To preview the cover on the Night Publishing site here's the link to the Eire/Ulaid season, a collection of books by Irish writers, just scroll down, Buying Time is the last one featured, the graphics may change slightly but the image will remain the same. The photograph is by Belfast photographer Gerry McNally, what do you think of it?

http://relaxatnight.weebly.com/eire--ulaid.html (http://relaxatnight.weebly.com/eire--ulaid.html)

Happy Saint Patrick's Day! And thanks for the support, it's much appreciated!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 17, 2011, 06:15:49 PM
HAPPY ST PATRICKS DAY TO ALL MY FRIENDS IN THE SHORT STRAND AREA
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 17, 2011, 10:24:27 PM
Same to you Frank dont take too much drink ;) all the best mate.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: gan chota on March 18, 2011, 04:09:27 PM
Nelly Tabb - Ronnie King's wife passed away. R.I.P. formerly of Sheriff St
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Erincyprus on March 18, 2011, 04:24:11 PM
gan chota picked it up in the Irish News my Mother's Family from Vulcan Street grew up with Nelli RIP.  Sad News.
 
 
Erin   
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Erincyprus on March 18, 2011, 04:33:56 PM
Anyone remember these four Ballymacarret lookers...lol..lol
 
My Uncles John Griffin and Nethie Smyth with Tommy Dodd's, Sammy Kelly.  Erin
 
 (http://i56.tinypic.com/2mz9z0w.jpg)       
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: GrittyKit on March 19, 2011, 03:32:01 PM
My mum's family were from the short strand. She was born in Sheriff Street - surname Smyth, her mother (my Gran) was Lucy Rooney. Lucy and her sister Maggie (married name Cooper) lived in Sheriff Street.
I have very distant memories of being in a house in Sheriff St.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 19, 2011, 06:40:56 PM
My mum's family were from the short strand. She was born in Sheriff Street - surname Smyth, her mother (my Gran) was Lucy Rooney. Lucy and her sister Maggie (married name Cooper) lived in Sheriff Street.
I have very distant memories of being in a house in Sheriff St.
  hi grittykit i remember your gran and also the coopers i went to school with james cooper (rip ) he had 3 sisters alice joan etta james was my buddy until i left for canada
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: GrittyKit on March 19, 2011, 07:06:45 PM
  hi grittykit i remember your gran and also the coopers i went to school with james cooper (rip ) he had 3 sisters alice joan etta james was my buddy until i left for canada

Oh wow! Thanks for responding Frank. Etta is in England, Alice in Eire and Joan still in Belfast. My mum was also called Joan, still in Belfast. I remember James though he died a long time ago. Do you remember my Gran when she was living there with her husband Ned??

Sorry - don't want to invade you with questions, but so great you've replied!

L.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: celticfrankie on March 19, 2011, 09:09:23 PM
hi frank  m nice to know ur well and kicking  hope all is well with u and ur family best wishes

Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 19, 2011, 11:14:56 PM
Oh wow! Thanks for responding Frank. Etta is in England, Alice in Eire and Joan still in Belfast. My mum was also called Joan, still in Belfast. I remember James though he died a long time ago. Do you remember my Gran when she was living there with her husband Ned??

Sorry - don't want to invade you with questions, but so great you've replied!
hi grittykit i do remember your gran and ned if you happen to see joan cooper tell her that i was asking about her my name is francie may i have been in canada for 47 years
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 19, 2011, 11:17:37 PM
hi frank  m nice to know ur well and kicking  hope all is well with u and ur family best wishes
hi frankie how is every thing with you and the family see you change your name (ha ha)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: GrittyKit on March 20, 2011, 06:54:30 AM
hi grittykit i do remember your gran and ned if you happen to see joan cooper tell her that i was asking about her my name is francie may i have been in canada for 47 years

Hi Francie I will tell her via my Mum! I'm in England now. Thanks for the mention of my Gran and Granpop both now gone of course though Lucy lived to be 92yrs!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: janice donnelly on March 21, 2011, 02:15:43 PM

Hello again, I just heard from my publisher my book Buying Time will be out within ten days! Here's the new version of the paperback cover, the original will be on the e-book cover. The gold lettering works really well with the tones in the photo, here's the link
http://relaxatnight.weebly.com/new-this-month.html (http://relaxatnight.weebly.com/new-this-month.html)

and the link to my profile and opening chapters on the NR site

http://nightreading.ning.com/profiles/blogs/buying-time (http://nightreading.ning.com/profiles/blogs/buying-time)

I've a topic Buying Time on The Lounge thread if you want more information on the content of the book. I'll post again when it's out. Thanks again for the interest.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Martin M on March 22, 2011, 11:12:10 PM
Is Brendan Mulhulls mother from Slate Street (Mervyn family) still around. I am a Mervyn originally from Beechmount. I do not think we are related to the Slate Street Mervyn's. Who knows where we all originally came from. My grandfather was from Dublin. We are trying to establish a link. Is there anyone that could point me to those Mervyn's. Martin M
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: celticfrankie on March 23, 2011, 06:59:49 PM
hi frank m always had that name  green n white flows thro my blood hows everything good i hopeare u heading to belfast this summer
catch u soon
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Martin M on March 23, 2011, 07:09:45 PM
Frank M where u from Slate Street family. Martin M
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Erincyprus on March 26, 2011, 09:09:56 PM
Hello again, I just heard from my publisher my book Buying Time will be out within ten days! Here's the new version of the paperback cover, the original will be on the e-book cover. The gold lettering works really well with the tones in the photo, here's the link
http://relaxatnight.weebly.com/new-this-month.html (http://relaxatnight.weebly.com/new-this-month.html)

and the link to my profile and opening chapters on the NR site

http://nightreading.ning.com/profiles/blogs/buying-time (http://nightreading.ning.com/profiles/blogs/buying-time)

I've a topic Buying Time on The Lounge thread if you want more information on the content of the book. I'll post again when it's out. Thanks again for the interest.

Thanks for info Janice,
 
Erin
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Keith Heath on March 29, 2011, 01:56:30 AM
(http://i54.tinypic.com/ou605d.jpg)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Keith Heath on March 29, 2011, 01:57:53 AM
Does anybody know who this woman is getting her money of the gasman. I copied it from the market thread but she's from the Strand
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Keith Heath on March 29, 2011, 02:00:09 AM
(http://i52.tinypic.com/2wpm0qg.jpg)

Here's the gasman getting escorted round the Strand - Looks like Clyde st
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Keith Heath on March 29, 2011, 02:02:10 AM
(http://i54.tinypic.com/n6okk0.jpg)

Everybody from the Strand will know this man
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on March 29, 2011, 08:02:26 PM
(http://i52.tinypic.com/2wpm0qg.jpg)

Here's the gasman getting escorted round the Strand - Looks like Clyde st
top of clyde st, bookies on the corner, maybe hes just cames from the bookies after having a flutter with all the shillings hes collected! lol
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 31, 2011, 12:25:06 AM
Frank M where u from Slate Street family. Martin M
  hi martin m no martin i was born in sheriff st short strand area welcome to the belfast forum
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on March 31, 2011, 12:28:46 AM
hi frank m always had that name  green n white flows thro my blood hows everything good i hopeare u heading to belfast this summer
catch u soon  hi celticfrankie i will be heading home in september i am looking forward to it
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sundance on April 09, 2011, 11:08:57 PM
I am trying to contact Bronco Downey, he lived in the shortstrand and was married to a girl called Marie.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on April 10, 2011, 09:00:50 AM
  hi grittykit i remember your gran and also the coopers i went to school with james cooper (rip ) he had 3 sisters alice joan etta james was my buddy until i left for canada
Frank I remember James Cooper, he died at an early age, was he married to Rita Cooper and they had a son called Roy. they also had a daughter cant remember her name may have been Caroline. They were good people.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: frank.m on April 10, 2011, 06:37:32 PM
Frank I remember James Cooper, he died at an early age, was he married to Rita Cooper and they had a son called Roy. they also had a daughter cant remember her name may have been Caroline. They were good people.
hi rep1 you were right they were good people i remember when james(rip) was going out with rita.what agreat couple they were just thinking off them brings back old memories hope to see you john when i get home in sept
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: gan chota on April 12, 2011, 10:19:41 PM
Does anybody remember Junior Kelly who lived in Sheriff St or what became of him.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on April 13, 2011, 07:08:25 AM
Does anybody remember Junior Kelly who lived in Sheriff St or what became of him.
What was Junior Kelly's first name, if it was Sammy there is picture posted by Erincyprus on this thread.(#806)
Sammy Kelly died about fifteen years ago. his son pat still lives in the area.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: gan chota on April 15, 2011, 08:27:57 PM
What was Junior Kelly's first name, if it was Sammy there is picture posted by Erincyprus on this thread.(#806)
Sammy Kelly died about fifteen years ago. his son pat still lives in the area.

Wrong Kelly REP1 - Junior was a bricklayer he would be about 53/54 years old. He lived a the top end facing the Doyle or down a few doors. I think his brother lived at the other end facing Mary Harpers shop
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Mitcher on April 15, 2011, 08:41:00 PM
I am trying to contact Bronco Downey, he lived in the shortstrand and was married to a girl called Marie.
Bronco is living down in Bray now.  I was talking to his older brother yesterday.  He is out of the Strand a long time now
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BoBo on April 15, 2011, 09:26:29 PM
Bronco is living down in Bray now.  I was talking to his older brother yesterday.  He is out of the Strand a long time now

Was he put out by the RA
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: The King on April 15, 2011, 09:36:46 PM
Was he put out by the RA
No he wasn't put out, he re-married  and lives in Bray with his wife and kids. He has nothing to do with his ex in the strand and only bothers with his daughter there. Met him last year, he is doing well for himself and has a lovely family. Remember that one he was married to in the strand tortured him.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BoBo on April 15, 2011, 09:56:05 PM
No he wasn't put out, he re-married  and lives in Bray with his wife and kids. He has nothing to do with his ex in the strand and only bothers with his daughter there. Met him last year, he is doing well for himself and has a lovely family. Remember that one he was married to in the strand tortured him.

Are you sure about that, i could have swore he was put out cos he was a bit of a no good
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: The King on April 15, 2011, 10:17:33 PM
Are you sure about that, i could have swore he was put out cos he was a bit of a no good
100% he wasn't put out. Bit of an eegit when he used to get drunk but he never did anything dodgey or dirty. His wife was a friend of my missus, they went to St Dominics together. He lived about the university area for a couple years with her, sure everybody knew that, his ex used to bitch about it to everybody.  Then they moved south about a year or two after me. Met him last year, he hasn't changed a bit where as I am now bald.lol.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sundance on April 16, 2011, 09:08:34 AM
I would like to thank everyone who helped me locate Stephen'Bronco'Downey. To The King a very big thankyou, after speaking to Bronco I feel relieved for our family problem. While I do not wish to discuss my family's problem I feel it is suffice to say his name was used as a threat by some-one in his former family and that the man himself knew absolutely nothing of the 'problem' or the threat, it was made up to protect a grave deception done to him and my late brother many many years ago.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: The King on April 16, 2011, 08:25:28 PM
I would like to thank everyone who helped me locate Stephen'Bronco'Downey. To The King a very big thankyou, after speaking to Bronco I feel relieved for our family problem. While I do not wish to discuss my family's problem I feel it is suffice to say his name was used as a threat by some-one in his former family and that the man himself knew absolutely nothing of the 'problem' or the threat, it was made up to protect a grave deception done to him and my late brother many many years ago.
Thanks for that sundance, was talking to him myself and will see him soon. Many lies have been told on him in the past wafflers like BoBo don't surprise me.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BoBo on April 17, 2011, 06:28:03 PM
Thanks for that sundance, was talking to him myself and will see him soon. Many lies have been told on him in the past wafflers like BoBo don't surprise me.

Aye right dead on.   Baldy conscience
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: apalachie on April 22, 2011, 10:10:44 PM

(http://img852.imageshack.us/img852/7356/lesaclubshortstrand.jpg) (http://)

(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/2686/lesaclub.jpg) (http://)

(http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/9479/lesa.jpg) (http://)
LESA club  79
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: apalachie on April 22, 2011, 10:13:26 PM

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(http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/5319/seaforde.jpg) (http://)
Seaforde st
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: apalachie on April 22, 2011, 10:19:05 PM

(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2612/shortstrandss.jpg) (http://)

(http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/9994/shortstrand1980.jpg) (http://)

(http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/8329/31767832.jpg) (http://)

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Short Strand folks
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: apalachie on April 22, 2011, 10:30:50 PM

(http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/7069/stmatts1.jpg) (http://)

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7382/stmatthewssocial.jpg) (http://)

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(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2046/stmatts3.jpg) (http://)

(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3452/stmatts79.jpg) (http://)

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(http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/9724/stmattsdec80.jpg) (http://)

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(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1987/stmatts2.jpg) (http://)
All of the above taken between 79 and 80 in St Matthews
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: apalachie on April 22, 2011, 10:46:35 PM

(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4820/rosebudclubseafordest.jpg) (http://)
Sorry folks I nearly missed this one, Seaforde St.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: apalachie on April 22, 2011, 10:50:44 PM

(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/2759/eastercross.gif) (http://)
Happy Easter folks hope you know some of the faces and I expect some are no longer with us.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: chink on April 23, 2011, 01:36:51 AM
thankyou for the photos  i was looking for my father in law  rip    any photos of old anderson st
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on April 23, 2011, 09:08:19 AM
Apalachie, #840, the first photois from left to right,lizie Rainey, Annie Mulligan, Mary Mc Kinney and Diedre Mulligan
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: apalachie on April 23, 2011, 11:54:13 AM

(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4791/062604d1df00be1edc37569.jpg) (http://)

Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: smith19 on April 25, 2011, 12:43:51 PM
Here again, I posted an enqury on 17th Feb and it was  no. 777 so I thought it would bring me luck. Does anyone remember the Scott family of Thompson Street, he - James was once a horse trader and did a bit of bookmaking. Son Pat and two daughters Irene and Maureen, who married my brother Gerard.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: william bickerstaffe on April 25, 2011, 08:05:28 PM
did anyone know the murdock family (susan) lived in vulgan st in the fifies
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Erincyprus on April 25, 2011, 09:07:49 PM
did anyone know the murdock family (susan) lived in vulgan st in the fifies

Yes my Mother does Murdocks lived in number 18 my Mothers Family lived in number 8.
 
Erin
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: william bickerstaffe on April 25, 2011, 09:10:07 PM
are they still around ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Erincyprus on April 25, 2011, 09:20:08 PM
Sent you a pm William.
 
 
Erin
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: william bickerstaffe on April 25, 2011, 09:26:35 PM
thank you erin  give susan my regards  if you are talking to her cheers billy
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Erincyprus on April 25, 2011, 09:33:39 PM
I will pass the message on so her Daughter can give her the message WB I don't know her personally and I will advise them you are on the Forum.  :smile:
 
Erin
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: belfastjohnny on May 11, 2011, 05:41:59 PM
bikerstaffe where is it u wer from i think iv heard my mum mention that name. was reared there it was a great we place loved it then the troubles started and spoiled everything
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Erincyprus on May 11, 2011, 07:54:33 PM
Right now belfastJonny WB is in Canada send him a pm.
 
 
 
Erin       
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on May 11, 2011, 08:17:28 PM
Just have to post a wee "Hello" on here to all my peeps in the or from the Strand. :air_kiss:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: belfastjohnny on May 11, 2011, 08:22:50 PM
Hi Betty just new to all this but seem to be enjoying it so far . so wer u from the strand urself
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on May 11, 2011, 08:39:50 PM
BJ, I was born in Altcar Street but the rest of the family all grew up there and my Mother before them and my Grandparents before that. A bit of my heart will always be there. Welcome to the Forum and where did you hail from? :air_kiss:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: belfastjohnny on May 11, 2011, 09:58:47 PM
Will Betty we hail from Beechfield St and my mothers family hailed from Sheriff st loved that wee street, saying that loved the wee distict ,,,
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Erincyprus on May 11, 2011, 09:59:25 PM
bj it was my Mum  :smile:
 
Have sent you an email addy
 
Erin
 
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: belfastjohnny on May 11, 2011, 10:10:27 PM
Erin you said u sent me an email how do i see it im new to all this and i cant see it on my emails , did u no my email address , as i said im new to all this im a bit thick on it lol
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Erincyprus on May 11, 2011, 10:18:00 PM
bj I have sent you a pm via the Forum with my email address.
 
You can only send six messages per hour via the Forum and I have exceeded the limit..Well for an hour anyway..You should get the message soon if you havn't got it now.
 
My Mum Margaret is delighted to hear from you.
 
Erin
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Erincyprus on May 11, 2011, 10:37:14 PM
Isn't it just BJ Mum says Congratulations to you all.  She says if your in her neck of the woods call for a cuppa.
 
Send me an email when you get the message with my private email address and I will give you her number.
 
Your Mum would have known Billy.
 
Erin 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on May 12, 2011, 12:56:10 AM
BelfastJohnny, you mentioned Harry Thompson. I knew two Harry Thompsons, one from Sheriff Street and one from the street that ran across the top of Beechfield Street, the name of the street has slipped my mind. Are you related to either one.? :smile:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on May 12, 2011, 01:07:01 AM
BJ. just remembered the street....Bryson Street. :smile:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: celticfrankie on June 11, 2011, 06:21:01 PM
hi you all living in the strand lets get this thread up and running again been away many a year now only way i get some news
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on June 14, 2011, 11:35:05 PM
Here's a couple of old Strand photos!
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/MpottingerRdfromAltcartoBend.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/bipe791.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/1957.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/SteeleBellMageeDorrian.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/mountpottingerrd1970s.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/006-1.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/007-1-1.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/albertbridge1957.jpg)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: smith19 on June 15, 2011, 11:52:12 AM
Here's a couple of old Strand photos!
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/MpottingerRdfromAltcartoBend.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/bipe791.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/1957.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/SteeleBellMageeDorrian.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/mountpottingerrd1970s.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/006-1.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/007-1-1.jpg)
 
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz100/BUFFALOBURGER/albertbridge1957.jpg)
Are you sure these photos are of Short Strand??
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BUFFALOBURGER on June 15, 2011, 01:19:17 PM
Are you sure these photos are of Short Strand??

Hiya Smith19, yeah all this pics were taken in or around the Strand from the 1960's through to the 80's.
 
The bus is travelling up the Mountpottinger road and about to pass Beechfield St, that's Mrs Murray's shop on the right. The photo was taken from the corner of Altcar St looking down the road towards Belfast lough (circa 1983). The faded colour ones were taken in the 60's on the Albertbridge Rd, (in the one with the bar- name escapes me!) Lisbon St would be on the right just out of view. In the other colour pic it is looking up to the junction of Castlereagh St, Mountpottinger Rd and Albertbridge Rd. There are a couple of the same area in B&W. In the photo of the bombed house that was taken on the Mountpottinger Rd just opposite Vulcan St/ Sheriff St a few doors down from Lizzy Grahams Shop (exact date escapes me but I think it might have been 1970 or 71. The funeral photo to my knowledge wouldn't have been published on this site or many others before was taken of the funeral cortege of 4 local IRA men Steele, Bell, Magee & Dorrian in Feb 1972 as it was leaving the Short Strand Rd and about to cross the Albert Bridge.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on June 15, 2011, 03:50:54 PM
The faded colour ones were taken in the 60's on the Albertbridge Rd, (in the one with the bar- name escapes me!)
 
The Bar 40 corner of the Mountpottinger and Clanceys Castlereagh street.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: grannyspice on June 16, 2011, 11:41:28 PM

Hiya Smith19, yeah all this pics were taken in or around the Strand from the 1960's through to the 80's.
 
The bus is travelling up the Mountpottinger road and about to pass Beechfield St, that's Mrs Murray's shop on the right. The photo was taken from the corner of Altcar St looking down the road towards Belfast lough (circa 1983). The faded colour ones were taken in the 60's on the Albertbridge Rd, (in the one with the bar- name escapes me!) Lisbon St would be on the right just out of view. In the other colour pic it is looking up to the junction of Castlereagh St, Mountpottinger Rd and Albertbridge Rd. There are a couple of the same area in B&W. In the photo of the bombed house that was taken on the Mountpottinger Rd just opposite Vulcan St/ Sheriff St a few doors down from Lizzy Grahams Shop (exact date escapes me but I think it might have been 1970 or 71. The funeral photo to my knowledge wouldn't have been published on this site or many others before was taken of the funeral cortege of 4 local IRA men Steele, Bell, Magee & Dorrian in Feb 1972 as it was leaving the Short Strand Rd and about to cross the Albert Bridge.

This is taken on "The Albert" just close to the junctiion of Mount Street and Albertbriudge Road. Just at what we would have known as "outside Fuscos and Prices in the "olden days"
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Kraffy on June 20, 2011, 04:35:23 PM
G'day Granny. The faded colour photos were taken by me in April, 1966, just prior to leaving for Australia. I recall that this was a 'cheap' 35mm slide roll which I think was Ansco color. I do remember that I was disappointed with the results. I have never been back to 're-take' them. But have seen photos of the 'devastation' since.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: rocko55 on June 24, 2011, 03:51:59 PM
There were people called McMillan that lived in Moria Street. (Dickie McMillan) Maybe connected.
Dickie McMillan was Hughies father, He was married to Mary McGivern. They lived in No20 Moira St. They had a large family Hughie, Jim, Richard, Geraldine, Pat, Mairead and Marie.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: trez on June 26, 2011, 12:49:44 AM
hello Kaz,a good bet for Short Strand photos would be Short Strander Frankie Quinn who has a photographic exhibition in Conway Mill all next week.

If I cant get to Belfast right now, how would I get some pix from around 1973? This is the time I lived there, and yes times where hard but  a Ghetto is too extereme.  It was the people who ensured it was not a ghetto, decent hard working, honest,neighbours and friends
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on June 26, 2011, 10:25:39 PM

If I cant get to Belfast right now, how would I get some pix from around 1973? This is the time I lived there, and yes times where hard but  a Ghetto is too extereme.  It was the people who ensured it was not a ghetto, decent hard working, honest,neighbours and friends
hi trez and welcome to the forum, where did u live in the short strand in 73? and wat were ur memories from then?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: trez on June 26, 2011, 11:04:39 PM
Hi Mickybo,
My Grand parents where from Mountpottinger Road, We spend alot of time visiting from Dublin.  At one stage we lived there for a couple of years 1973. They where tough years for everyone.  I have good memoires of my family,friends and neighbours at that time.
 
 
hi trez and welcome to the forum, where did u live in the short strand in 73? and wat were ur memories from then?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on June 29, 2011, 04:24:48 PM
Frank m, Just to say ole bean that I am proud to say my life began on the Strand. A wee bit of my heart will always be there. :air_kiss:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on June 29, 2011, 11:25:42 PM
Hi Mickybo,
My Grand parents where from Mountpottinger Road, We spend alot of time visiting from Dublin.  At one stage we lived there for a couple of years 1973. They where tough years for everyone.  I have good memoires of my family,friends and neighbours at that time.
hi trez, yeah a lot of tough years as you say, i wud have been 12 in 1973 and prob at secondary school,lived just off the short strand but wud have frequented the mountpottenger in search of at riot at the barracks and well out of sight of my  ma and da lol, u rem any names from that time?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: trez on June 29, 2011, 11:38:43 PM
Hi Mickybo,
 
NAMES! Never, But yes I was about 10 and remember a lot of riots, we lived on a very busy street, just at the crossroads, alot of buses and cars burned outside our door.  The next day you could burst the bubbles of paint on our green front door. My poor old gran spent alot of money repainting that front door LOL
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on June 29, 2011, 11:46:39 PM
hi trez,when u r 10 and 12 it seem like fun, tho looking back it was pretty scary and dangerous, no wonder my da wud clip me round the ear if he caught me rioting lol,  do u visit belfast much? a lot has changed, tho the rioting in the strand has recently returned?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: JEANJEANNIE on June 30, 2011, 12:41:53 AM
(http://i56.tinypic.com/29j51w.jpg)
Rep1, You can get some improvement on your pics with a few tweaks. A lot of the photos I took in the 70,s were the same, with colour castes.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: trez on June 30, 2011, 04:27:31 PM
Yes it was scary at times and dangerous, Sadly no I don't visit much. My Grandparents,Mum Uncles and Aunt all from there long before the troubles began. It will always hold a special place in my heart.
 
hi trez,when u r 10 and 12 it seem like fun, tho looking back it was pretty scary and dangerous, no wonder my da wud clip me round the ear if he caught me rioting lol,  do u visit belfast much? a lot has changed, tho the rioting in the strand has recently returned?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on June 30, 2011, 09:23:00 PM
Yes it was scary at times and dangerous, Sadly no I don't visit much. My Grandparents,Mum Uncles and Aunt all from there long before the troubles began. It will always hold a special place in my heart.
hi trez, sadly i have moved on many years ago, tho not that far to pay it a visit now and again, im sure u wudnt recognize it anymore, so hold on to those memories, im sure it all seems like last week lol.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on July 17, 2011, 11:20:17 PM
Just moving this wee thread up to the front. :air_kiss:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jackiehillis on July 19, 2011, 12:14:45 AM
Just moving this wee thread up to the front. :air_kiss:
        Way to go Betty. Just waiting to hear from somebody from Josephine St.   :air_kiss: :air_kiss:
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jackiehillis on July 19, 2011, 12:32:20 AM
                                                      Interesting

                                                http://joegrahambook.rushlightmagazine.com/index.html
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jackiehillis on July 19, 2011, 12:36:50 AM
                                                          Also Interesting

                                           http://www.rushlightmagazine.com/
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: barry on July 19, 2011, 01:46:00 AM
                                                        Also Interesting

                                           http://www.rushlightmagazine.com/ (http://www.rushlightmagazine.com/)

Aye  Jackie,  some  very  interesting  stories  in  the  RushLight Mag's,  my  Father  in-law (R.I.P.)
used  to  send  me  over  a  copy  every  month, is  it  still  going ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: celticfrankie on September 13, 2011, 09:09:51 PM
hi has all the people in the strand disappeared or have u all got ur computers stolen lets get this thread going again its the only way i keep in touch with whats happening
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bridge ender on September 13, 2011, 10:26:15 PM
hi Frankie 
 
good to keep the Strand in everyones mind but not much happening
 
               BE
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on September 14, 2011, 12:58:52 AM
I am so happy the pictures in the previous posts are there as that is how I remember the old street (Altcar Street). So many happy memories for me. :)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: celticfrankie on September 15, 2011, 07:30:40 PM
many thanks bridge ender  normally i get is births marriages or deaths  it would be nice to hear a bit of craic
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bridge ender on September 15, 2011, 10:27:01 PM
no problem celticfrankie isn't it great things are nice and peaceful now
 
                                BE
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: JEANJEANNIE on September 15, 2011, 11:35:22 PM
(http://i51.tinypic.com/16a33uc.jpg)
S19..I've tried to bring the picture into focus. (added a Ballymacarret sky)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on March 07, 2012, 10:26:27 PM
heres afew names of people from the strand  i remember when i moved to craigavon early 70s.  john higgins, jimmy robinson. pat bates, francie ohara, pauline oreilly,  donna devlin, harry lagan. tommy gargan. theres afew for start maybe yous remember them ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: artibell on March 08, 2012, 10:25:32 AM
heres afew names of people from the strand  i remember when i moved to craigavon early 70s.  john higgins, jimmy robinson. pat bates, francie ohara, pauline oreilly,  donna devlin, harry lagan. tommy gargan. theres afew for start maybe yous remember them ?

I think they all moved to Craigavon early 70s Harry Lagan was from the Murf
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on March 09, 2012, 08:48:07 AM


ta m8. wasnt sure if harry was from the strand or markets but never thought he was a murf man.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on March 16, 2012, 03:10:11 PM
Bump up. :)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on March 16, 2012, 04:09:52 PM


duggans short strand ? one of them was in the same class as me at lismore. if memory serves me right i think they moved down from creagh estate ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Bronco on June 14, 2012, 12:08:07 PM
Without being offensive, can I ask people not to offer me condolences on the death of my ex-wife Marie McMahon from Madrid Street. I have had no contact with her for the best part of 20 years and I want to leave it that way. We were divorced a long time ago and that was the end of things and my connection to the Strand. Bronco
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: kilmoodgirl on June 16, 2012, 05:24:42 AM
Hi All, Just found this forum bring back great memories thanks to all.
 Does anyone remember the O'neills from 22 Kilmood St I am Rosaleen.
 I went to St Matthews and St monica's. I have some old pics I will post when I scan them.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: kate.o on June 16, 2012, 12:24:04 PM
dose anyone remember Laim and John Lawler from the Strand :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on June 17, 2012, 09:12:05 AM
Due to the location of the factories in the area, I can understand why Vulcan and Chemical streets were so called. Can any one shed any light on why Sherriff St was called Sherriff St ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: danso on June 17, 2012, 06:46:45 PM
Was it because sheriff burns lived there. Lol
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on June 18, 2012, 07:18:35 AM
All the streets in the markets are called after peoples names, but the strand is a puzzle. Some are names, Thompson, Moira, AAron; others cities, Lisbon, Madrid. Then it just changes to jibberish, Kilmood, sherriff, were did they think them up.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Denis Patterson on June 28, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
I know you Rosaleen  went to school with you and Jean wee were in the same class in ST Monica, I come from altcar street ,
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Jack The Kipper on July 13, 2012, 07:34:59 AM
A couple of times every week for the last few years I  pass on the train waste ground of what I believe is the old Sorocco works, now it is my understanding that there is a cronic shortage of social housing in the Short Strand, that being the case why are there no houses being built on that site, surely it cant be the shortage of money, because just a half mile away there is an area that they threw money at it as if it were confetti, namely the Titanic Quarter....Can some of you good people of the Short Strand enlighten me to what the reason of this situation is?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: kilmoodgirl on July 16, 2012, 05:50:57 AM
I know you Rosaleen  went to school with you and Jean wee were in the same class in ST Monica, I come from altcar street ,

Did you to the plaza with us Mary McCarthy, Lilian Herdman and did you know Geraldine Patterson ?  
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Denis Patterson on July 16, 2012, 08:30:36 PM
 :) Geraldine patterson lived in altcar beside me .  Alice Munster Marie Daragh  and you were in the same class as me .
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: kilmoodgirl on July 20, 2012, 07:08:32 AM
:) Geraldine patterson lived in altcar beside me .  Alice Munster Marie Daragh  and you were in the same class as me .
(http://i46.tinypic.com/w6p2s4.jpg)
This is Alice
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Denis Patterson on July 20, 2012, 12:08:13 PM
yes thats Alice . got any more  photos of all the girls would love to see them many thanks.

Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on July 20, 2012, 07:49:44 PM
craigyroo:thats a very groundless hurtful remark, i was born and raised in ballymacarret & i can assure you it was not in any shape or form a ghetto.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jackiehillis on July 20, 2012, 08:37:19 PM
craigyroo:thats a very groundless hurtful remark, i was born and raised in ballymacarret & i can assure you it was not in any shape or form a ghetto.

            (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111/mrloki1/thumbsup.gif)(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111/mrloki1/thumbsup.gif) Josephine Street. Born and reared. Many happy memories. Greatest people you could find.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: craigyroo on July 21, 2012, 10:24:42 PM
craigyroo:thats a very groundless hurtful remark, i was born and raised in ballymacarret & i can assure you it was not in any shape or form a ghetto.

I grew up between the Albertbridge , lord street and beersbridge , compared to where I live now those areas are [censored]
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: PaulineRooney on July 24, 2012, 08:15:47 AM
REP 1, so sorry to hear Danny has passed away. Was one of my wee pals way back when. I know Pauline and
Denis. Denis was my nephew Mal. Fegan,s best friend. Did you know the Thompsons from Bryson Street?

Hi just wondered if this is the same Pauline O'Neill that went to st monicas 1977 (approximate date) ? My mum Mary rocks (known as molly rocks) went to school with a girl called Pauline ONeill from either the strand or markets area. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks x
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: kilmoodgirl on July 26, 2012, 04:00:39 AM
yes thats Alice . got any more  photos of all the girls would love to see them many thanks.
(http://thumbnails55.imagebam.com/20264/ee224d202631671.jpg) (http://)
St Monicas girls..Seaforde St May 1962 .That is me with X on back age13.
from the left Hazel Halfpenny 3rd Moira Mc mahon  That is all I remember anyone help.
Double Click on pic for larger image
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Denis Patterson on July 27, 2012, 02:32:14 PM
Emily Devlin at the back. I remember that day well.  many thanks.  Marie Devlin.

Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on July 30, 2012, 08:58:46 PM
pauline rooney: (nee oneill right) i went to school with dennis i knew you were both living in co. down somewhere, what about your brother eddie,?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: PaulineRooney on July 31, 2012, 08:01:15 AM
lol its not me, im looking for a Pauline O'Neill from the strand/markets that went to school with my mum molly rocks. Can anyone help please. X
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on July 31, 2012, 03:03:48 PM
lol its not me, im looking for a Pauline O'Neill from the strand/markets that went to school with my mum molly rocks. Can anyone help please. X
Pauline O,Neill, married to Dennis Rooney now lives in Downpatrick. Hope this helps. :)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: PaulineRooney on July 31, 2012, 03:28:19 PM
Pauline O,Neill, married to Dennis Rooney now lives in Downpatrick. Hope this helps. :)

Thank you for the info, do you know of any members on here that may know her personally or can contact her? Thanks again for your help. My mum Molly Rocks went to school with a girl called Pauline O'neill from the stand, she had a brother called danny. My mum called me after her and my name is Pauline Rooney too lol
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on July 31, 2012, 05:08:29 PM
Pauline, that is the same girl as I knew her brother Danny very well. Heard lately that Danny has passed away. My nephew that lives here in Canada was best friends with Dennis Rooney and I will try and get the address for you. Stay tuned. :)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: PaulineRooney on July 31, 2012, 05:23:31 PM
Thank you so much. XX :)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on July 31, 2012, 08:50:49 PM
was a pauline o,neill who lived on the short strand, wud be about 50 by now?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: PaulineRooney on August 01, 2012, 08:09:34 AM
yes mickybo around that age group as my mum will be 50 next year.  :)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on August 01, 2012, 09:36:23 PM
yes mickybo around that age group as my mum will be 50 next year.  :)
had an older sister, carol and younger brother, philip if ur mum wud kno?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: PaulineRooney on August 02, 2012, 11:01:57 AM
hey mickybo im not sure about the other names, she defo had a brother danny, if they were older my mum prob wouldnt remember. do you know her? x
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: philfluter on August 02, 2012, 05:35:32 PM
i've spotted one connection from a poster to the forrester family - are there any other who remember the forresters/connected to family
they had relatives in the lower falls also
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on August 03, 2012, 10:13:44 AM
hey mickybo im not sure about the other names, she defo had a brother danny, if they were older my mum prob wouldnt remember. do you know her? x
hi pauline,im sure the pauline o'neill i knew only had one brother and his name was phillip,must'nt b the same person, sorry x
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: p.george on August 08, 2012, 05:48:45 AM
who is the crzy ppl in the short strand now off days
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: geraldinerice on August 08, 2012, 04:48:26 PM
my mother is looking for her friend roseleen o'neil from the short strand she has been on her looking for her but im so useless at this stuff my mother is called geraldine patterson rice so if ur out there please contact me
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: PaulineRooney on August 08, 2012, 05:33:05 PM
thanks mickybo, i think i may have found the person im looking for, i have her contact details now so just a case of writing to her to find out. Thanks to everyone for your help and posts in the forum all pointed me in the right direction.  :)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on August 10, 2012, 08:54:14 PM
denis patterson: i think the girl at the back is alice munster.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Denis Patterson on August 11, 2012, 01:04:49 PM
jonjoe it is Emily Devlin,
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: kilmoodgirl on August 12, 2012, 04:27:34 AM
my mother is looking for her friend roseleen o'neil from the short strand she has been on her looking for her but im so useless at this stuff my mother is called geraldine patterson rice so if ur out there please contact me
Hi Rosaleen O' Neill Mc Laughlin here .I think your mother was with me when this picture was taken.I also sent you a private message. We had some great times together

(http://thumbnails54.imagebam.com/20554/9fcae7205538966.jpg) (http://) and this is now 4 weeks ago with my 2 year old Great Grandson little Brendan at The Venitian Las Vegas.
(http://thumbnails82.imagebam.com/20554/ab7191205538968.jpg) (http://) If you double click on pics it will show larger image and if you put kilmoodgirl in the search box it will show all my posts.We had some great times together
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jackiehillis on August 12, 2012, 05:09:53 AM
Hi Rosaleen O' Neill Mc Laughlin here .I think your mother was with me when this picture was taken.I also sent you a private message. We had some great times together

(http://thumbnails54.imagebam.com/20554/9fcae7205538966.jpg) (http://) and this is now 4 weeks ago with my 2 year old Great Grandson little Brendan at The Venitian Las Vegas.
(http://thumbnails82.imagebam.com/20554/ab7191205538968.jpg) (http://) If you double click on pics it will show larger image and if you put kilmoodgirl in the search box it will show all my posts.We had some great times together
Killmoodgirl, snap. here is the same area.

(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111/mrloki1/me2.jpg)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: kilmoodgirl on August 12, 2012, 05:43:53 AM
John you are looking good there...This is the pic I meant to post...Brendan with a Margurita from Casino Royale...ask for the funbook 2 Marguritas or 2 beers for a dollar. We stayed at the Imperial palace this time we didnt know it was under new construction ...it was a mess so we moved to downtown Freemont St ...great fun much better than the Strip
(http://thumbnails51.imagebam.com/20555/50a45b205545312.jpg) (http://)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: kilmoodgirl on August 12, 2012, 05:51:47 AM
jonjoe it is Emily Devlin,
denis patterson: i think the girl at the back is alice munster.
jonjoe it is Emily Devlin,
Marie do you have any pics from wayback then
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: kilmoodgirl on August 12, 2012, 06:09:44 AM
Hi Jackie nice to hear from you we lived on Kennedy Rd, Scarborough Ont for 6 yrs before moving to Calif then New Mexico. My youngesrt daughter moved back to Toronto lives in a high rise of Lakeshore.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jackiehillis on August 12, 2012, 04:56:19 PM
Hi Jackie nice to hear from you we lived on Kennedy Rd, Scarborough Ont for 6 yrs before moving to Calif then New Mexico. My youngesrt daughter moved back to Toronto lives in a high rise of Lakeshore.
       Hi kilmoodgirl. Nice talking to you. We live up in Newmarket now. Worked downtown Toronto all my life on the high rises. Try to get to Vegas as often as we can.   
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Denis Patterson on August 13, 2012, 05:59:22 PM
Hi Rosaleen lovely photos yes i do have some  photos when wee were at  school. Alice  you and me and a few other girls.Are you living in Belfast. Nice to hear from you.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: kilmoodgirl on August 14, 2012, 03:39:06 AM
Hi Rosaleen lovely photos yes i do have some  photos when wee were at  school. Alice  you and me and a few other girls.Are you living in Belfast. Nice to hear from you.
Hi Marie , Is there anyway you could either post the pics or e-mail them.
My e-mail is [email protected]. Hey if anyone else wants to e mail I would love to hear from you.
I have just made contact with Geraldine Patterson from Alcar St on the board .
We moved to Toronto early 70's then California near San Francisco and we now live in Roswell New Mexico (the place where the UFO crashed in 1947 LOL)
going on 30 yrs
This is great making contact
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jackiehillis on August 14, 2012, 03:45:26 AM
Hi Marie , Is there anyway you could either post the pics or e-mail them.
My e-mail is [email protected]. Hey if anyone else wants to e mail I would love to hear from you.
I have just made contact with Geraldine Patterson from Alcar St on the board .
We moved to Toronto early 70's then California near San Francisco and we now live in Roswell New Mexico (the place where the UFO crashed in 1947 LOL)
going on 30 yrs
This is great making contact
                Wow, Rosewell. I love the history there. The So called UFO crash. Wonder how true it was. Supposed to be a weather baloon.  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: kilmoodgirl on August 14, 2012, 05:27:42 AM
                Wow, Rosewell. I love the history there. The So called UFO crash. Wonder how true it was. Supposed to be a weather baloon.  ??? ??? ???
Of course it was a UFO and here is a pic to prove it
(http://thumbnails22.imagebam.com/20587/d3e006205867576.jpg) (http://)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Denis Patterson on August 14, 2012, 11:39:12 AM
Rosaleen when i get round to it  i will send them to you.Are you still working have you been home to Belfast. See Alica now and again the rest of the girls no. :-*
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: geraldinerice on August 14, 2012, 12:22:50 PM
this is my mum i think ur talkin about she has got me searchin for her  friends from she was younger she is geraldine patterson rice i see u were talkin with rosaleen and that her friend she would like to get in touch with everyone r u a relation to her
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Denis Patterson on August 14, 2012, 04:53:18 PM
Not a relation  went to school with her lived in the same street .Marie Devlin.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: p.george on August 16, 2012, 05:07:09 PM
does anybody know if jerry troop is still alive from the short strand  :)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on August 20, 2012, 07:47:50 PM
p.george: gerry passed away some time ago. his brother john also passed away in new york a few years back.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: waldo on August 20, 2012, 10:03:10 PM
jonjoe
did Jerry and John Troop have two sisters think one was called Peggy and a another  brother.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on August 21, 2012, 07:34:05 AM
jonjoe
did Jerry and John Troop have two sisters think one was called Peggy and a another  brother.
The other brother was named Geordie
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on August 21, 2012, 07:01:35 PM
waldo:sally.&peggy + george is right.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Denis Patterson on September 17, 2012, 02:04:56 PM
Hi Gerldine how are you . Are you living in Belfast. I live in Lisburn it would be nice to hear from you. :-* Marie.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on September 17, 2012, 03:25:22 PM
Hi Marie, what about ye? :-*
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Denis Patterson on September 18, 2012, 01:17:43 PM
Betty all good with me. Hope you are well .Seen lovely photos of your patio and that lovely little dog. weather still good over there it has been a very bad summer here. :-*
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on September 18, 2012, 02:02:27 PM
Our summer went by all too fast Marie and at times was way too hot. We are approaching Fall now with the mornings darker and cooler. Delighted that you got to see into my wee world. Like you there is not a day goes by when I don,t think of the great people I enjoyed growing up especially Altcar Street where my family began. It was always fun to go down there and go from house to house. Take care love. :-*
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Denis Patterson on September 18, 2012, 04:41:27 PM
Betty i think i was in every house  in Altcar street lol. The best one was lilly shields you always got a good laugh there. my kids  loved jimmy shields they called  him grandad he love  to see them calling in to get there wee bag of sweets. Mrs Boyle  Kathleen and Winnie  dont know if you remember them they lived next door to the Fagans lovely people.x
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Denis Patterson on September 18, 2012, 05:58:43 PM
Betty another for you do you remember Dublin Murphy  her real name was Bridie Murry. she lived next door to big Maggie mc Cabe. lUKE mc Cabe went to live in canada years ago. When he came home for a holiday wee all throught he was a film star lol. Maggie would walk up and down Altcar street with him in and out of all the houses .x
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Denis Patterson on September 18, 2012, 06:28:28 PM
BETTY another one for you do you remember Dublin Murphy. Her real name was Bridie Murry she lived next door to big Maggie mc Cabe  her son luke went to canada years ago. when he came home for a holiday wee throught he was a film star lol. Maggie would walk up and  down Altcar street with him in and out of all the houses.x
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: spacetinker on September 20, 2012, 02:56:52 PM
Hi Denis. .
Had some "Lagan Village" school chums called Patterson from Altcar St. 1950's... Jimmy and  younger bro Tommy.
Did you know them?....would love to know how they are doing. ...Cheers.....Tink
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: celticfrankie on September 20, 2012, 09:22:30 PM
just to let u all know martin leonard formerly of anderson st died last monday funeral tomorrow at saint agnews andy town rip cousin
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on September 20, 2012, 09:28:31 PM
Marie, yes remember them all. I am glad your kids loved my Uncle Jimmy and Aunt Lily as I did. Bridget was definitely a character and loved my Mom. She told me one time that she would have gone hungry many a time if it was,nt for my Mom but then everyone shared what they had in those days. I remember the Boyles as well. Hope all is well with you and yours. :-*
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on September 21, 2012, 07:16:38 AM
just to let u all know martin leonard formerly of anderson st died last monday funeral tomorrow at saint agnews andy town rip cousin
Frankie so sorry to hear about Martin, I knew him and the family really well they were old friends and neighbours he was always full of fun. RIP Martin.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Denis Patterson on September 21, 2012, 05:50:05 PM
sorry have not seen  any of them. if i here any thing will let you know keep posted.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Denis Patterson on September 21, 2012, 05:53:44 PM
sorry to here about Martin RIP.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: grannyspice on September 23, 2012, 04:26:02 PM
these are photos of my wedding in 1963 taken at Albertbridge Congregational Church. Anyone know the lads looking on? Folk always came out to wish the newlyweds all the best in those days.
(http://i49.tinypic.com/w2c277.jpg)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/10o19xs.jpg)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on September 23, 2012, 06:48:13 PM
these are photos of my wedding in 1963 taken at Albertbridge Congregational Church. Anyone know the lads looking on? Folk always came out to wish the newlyweds all the best in those days.

That is the church in Thompson Street if I am correct. the second photo at the bottom left the young lad looks like Jakie McElhone from Clyde st. RIP

(http://i49.tinypic.com/w2c277.jpg)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/10o19xs.jpg)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: grannyspice on September 23, 2012, 07:16:23 PM
Ach Rep you are right about the Church. I am so sorry about the wee lad in the picture. I have often wondered if anyone would know these lads but have only learned how to post pictures. Thank you for the info. GS
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: kraftcheese on September 24, 2012, 03:21:47 AM
Grannyspice, you were a beautiful bride.  Congratulations on learning how to post pictures.  Well done! 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Marie1A on September 24, 2012, 11:16:07 PM
evening all, rep1 I remember that church and that lad in the picture :) too  brings back memories.   
Can anyone tell me where to get the Calender by Frankie Quinn. Id love to get it for my sisters here in England. Thanks
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on September 25, 2012, 09:51:03 AM
evening all, rep1 I remember that church and that lad in the picture :) too  brings back memories.   
Can anyone tell me where to get the Calender by Frankie Quinn. Id love to get it for my sisters here in England. Thanks
Frankie has a shop off lower North street.  or go to www.frankiequinn.com
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: grannyspice on September 26, 2012, 08:48:20 AM
Grannyspice, you were a beautiful bride.  Congratulations on learning how to post pictures.  Well done!
Ach thank you Kraffy. Sure we are never too old to learn xxxx
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: celticfrankie on September 26, 2012, 05:58:13 PM
has frankie quinn anything to do with the quinns in kilmood st does anybody got any contact with pat quinn the last place known was down patrick  i think it was the white horse estate if anybody has an adress or phone number id be grateful
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Jack The Kipper on September 26, 2012, 07:03:52 PM
A couple of times every week for the last few years I  pass on the train waste ground of what I believe is the old Sorocco works, now it is my understanding that there is a cronic shortage of social housing in the Short Strand, that being the case why are there no houses being built on that site, surely it cant be the shortage of money, because just a half mile away there is an area that they threw money at it as if it were confetti, namely the Titanic Quarter....Can some of you good people of the Short Strand enlighten me to what the reason of this situation is?

Bump.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on September 27, 2012, 05:56:37 PM
grannyspice:the saddest thing about looking at an old wedding album,ours is from 1967 is that most of the people in the photos have passed away.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Denis Patterson on October 04, 2012, 03:56:13 PM
Hi Betty hows  things with you hope all is well. Winter is on its way  and wee had no summer lol. :-* .
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on October 04, 2012, 05:02:35 PM
Hi Marie, everything good at this end. Our weather is lovely today. Sun is shining and of course the trees have started to change colours but the nights are chilly. We have closed up the back yard and stored away the furniture for another year. The flowers in my hanging baskets are starting to die so I guess I will have to put some Autumn ones out. Hope you and yours are well. :-*
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: grannyspice on October 04, 2012, 06:33:18 PM
grannyspice:the saddest thing about looking at an old wedding album,ours is from 1967 is that most of the people in the photos have passed away.
You are right jonjoe. I think in our group photo there is only one or two of the wedding guests still alive :-(
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Denis Patterson on October 08, 2012, 12:47:05 PM
Hi Rosaleen whats new with you,  Any  more info from  ST Monicas girls  as i said  last time have not seen any of them. Every one must be living away from Belfast lol :) .
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: e.rainey on October 09, 2012, 03:48:04 PM
Love seeing the posts about the Short Strand...My Dad was born and raised in the area being born Short Strand St..My Dad left Belfast to  seek work in Birmingham then Manchester...I love to hear all the stories about the people from the area.As a child Summer Holidays were spent at My Grandmothers 102 Bryson St running around all the streets going to the Baths around the corner.The Cinema walking into Town.So many happy memories so many friends Boy's and Girl's...It fills me with great emotion whenever I think of them...I returned the other year to see Bryson St relatives still live on it...Felt so sad to see the peacewall...Where the house used to be..I suppose I can be grateful for the Fabulous memories I have something which no one can take away from me .Even when I arrive by flight and come into Belfast City Airport...I look for the landmark of St Matthews and my heart skips a beat.   
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: artibell on October 16, 2012, 08:28:13 PM
(http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j426/artibell/Loughrans001_zpscdd1c745.jpg)

The Loughrans 22 Clyde Street
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on October 16, 2012, 09:22:45 PM
(http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j426/artibell/Loughrans001_zpscdd1c745.jpg)

The Loughrans 22 Clyde Street
Artie did one of the brothers work as a coalman.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: artibell on October 17, 2012, 10:43:48 AM
Hi rep1 Anthony was a coalman
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on October 17, 2012, 08:47:19 PM
Hi rep1 Anthony was a coalman
Is he in the photo Artie?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: artibell on October 18, 2012, 09:12:41 AM
Is he in the photo Artie?
front right
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on November 28, 2012, 08:04:06 AM
anyone remember Sean Donaldson from Anderson St
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on December 03, 2012, 01:43:58 PM
 i was in the same class as tony loughran in st.matthews have,nt a clue where he is now but celticfrankie might know. the name sean donaldson is very familer to me but i can,t put a face to the name.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Denis Patterson on December 03, 2012, 06:58:43 PM
Rosleen Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year  to you and your family  . Marie..
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: ec on December 06, 2012, 10:23:33 PM
I remember Sean Donaldson, he lived in 31 Anderson Street
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on December 07, 2012, 07:54:23 AM
Any idea where Sean is now, ec
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: ec on December 07, 2012, 01:27:19 PM
No idea Road Hog, haven't seen him in over thirty years, his brother used to have a shop on the Falls Road. Sorry I cant help you further.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on December 07, 2012, 07:01:36 PM
Any idea where Sean is now, ec
Sean lives in west Belfast. Has an outside catering business going, is always around Saint Gaul’s club. He was on talkback radio a few months ago, seems his great uncle was in the photograph of the Ulster Covenant taken with Lord Carson.
 
 
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on December 08, 2012, 08:09:52 AM
Thanks REP, if your talking to him, ask him to send me an email
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Chaddie on December 22, 2012, 11:38:21 AM
religion wasnt at fault m8. it was people using religion as a scap goat for to go to war.
one god, 10 commandments. hardly an excuse for war !!!!

Stalin and pol Pot were not exactly religious. They helped a few people to an early grave.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on December 22, 2012, 07:13:37 PM

Stalin and pol Pot were not exactly religious. They helped a few people to an early grave.
chaddie,you quote stalin and pol pot as irreligious. Be careful that you dont misunderstand your own statement.
Religion is the name given to a system of believes pertaining to a transcendant realm, with its social structures, practices and moral teachings. Stalin and pol pot, only believed in " themselves"
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on December 22, 2012, 10:03:51 PM
chaddie,you quote stalin and pol pot as irreligious. Be careful that you dont misunderstand your own statement.
Religion is the name given to a system of believes pertaining to a transcendant realm, with its social structures, practices and moral teachings. Stalin and pol pot, only believed in " themselves"

interesting he named those two, quite afew others in history could be added to the list. well said rh.

Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast Seaforde St., Sheriff and Lowry St.
Post by: Mary K. Rossi on January 20, 2013, 03:30:32 PM
My grandparents lived at 41 Sheriff St.  I lived at 59 Seaforde St. across Kilmood St., and hung out at 15 Lowry St.  My friends were Betty and Maire Burns.  Marion  and Agnes O'Neill.  Maura Stratton, Dorothy Mc Ginty, Ann Burns, Madeline Lundy, Ann Mc Glade.  The area was a slum, ghetto, but we didn't know it.  We were all in the same boat.  I left for the USA in 1957 and still cherish the fun we had especially in the summer and Sundays going out to Stormount, Ormeau Rd Park, the Pop, the Hippadrome and the Winkie.  Going the the Market on Fridays, getting a piece of ice from the fish market.  Sneaking on the bus because we had no money.  Long walks out to the country and rolling down the Mount.  If any of my old friends are still out there, I remember all of you fondly.  All the best.
Mary Kinsella 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on January 20, 2013, 03:51:43 PM
Mary check out (seadog) on this forum he is the son of Agnes O'Neill now (Logue)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Alaun on January 23, 2013, 12:16:08 PM
(http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j426/artibell/Loughrans001_zpscdd1c745.jpg)

The Loughrans 22 Clyde Street
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Alaun on January 23, 2013, 12:19:33 PM
These Loughrans lived next door to my cousins in Clyde street. They were called McGuigan, and they lived in 24 Clyde st.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sagirl on February 04, 2013, 01:08:51 AM
Hi new to the forum

My dad was born in chemical street (willie kelly) and my mum from Clyde Steet (Mary Gargan) just seen pics of my uncle Sammy kelly and then someone chatting about my aunt Geraldine Gargan

My dad is now 80 and mum late seventies and they are delighted with all the connections I tell them about as they do not have any connection to the internet and think it is amazing

Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on February 04, 2013, 11:24:11 AM
gw: i knew all the boyles very well i think my mother (cassie carew) was godmother to one of the older girls. i think i am the same age as ann, i,ll not say what that is to save her blushes.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: ec on February 04, 2013, 01:19:02 PM
Hi sagirl, just read ur blog, I am your cousin, my daddy was ur daddy's brother, his name was Felix and I am Eileen Cullen nee Kelly.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sagirl on February 04, 2013, 03:31:49 PM
Hi Eileen

Your cousin Trish here - crazy one post and you reply so soon!! Hope you are keeping well. I will tell Dad we were in touch
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: ec on February 05, 2013, 01:43:56 PM
Hi Trish, hope u and ur family are doing well.  Tell ur mum and dad I was asking about them.  Last seen ur dad at Aunt Maureen's funeral, he was looking good. xx
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on February 05, 2013, 07:40:00 PM
sagirl: i remember your dad from way back. i think there were a lot of familys related but we were never sure how. the kellys,mc canns,kings, fitzsimmons, mcauley (my lot) glenholmes i,m sure iv,e forgotten some you can ask your dad. we were not so much a big family circle more a small tribe.!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sagirl on February 06, 2013, 12:49:47 AM
Hi jonjoe

Yes I know Dad talks about the (tribe) and you are right there was quite a mix with all family and although he has told me how it came about I am still not sure as a verrry long story as we know!!
He has told me all the surnames and you have mentioned them all if I remember correctly!!

He would be delighted to hear that I was in touch with anyone from the (tribe) even though he still goes (home) as often as he can to see his sisters

Thanks for getting in touch
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sagirl on February 06, 2013, 12:52:43 AM
Jonjoe

I think the one we are missing is Armour
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on February 08, 2013, 07:52:57 PM
sagirl : thats the ones they all started out in keenan st. same street as my dad was born in.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: belfastbilly on February 08, 2013, 09:49:46 PM
the bible is a book of hate.its filled with stories  of rape murder incest and genocides.if you were foolish enough to believe and follow every word in the bible you would either end up in jail or the mad house.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: scully500 on February 09, 2013, 02:35:10 AM
Hi Eileen ,Susan McGreevy here, how is everyone doing?

Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on February 09, 2013, 06:52:52 PM
the bible is a book of hate.its filled with stories  of rape murder incest and genocides.if you were foolish enough to believe and follow every word in the bible you would either end up in jail or the mad house.
hI Billy, I think you are referring to the old testament when you say these things. Jesus changed all that. Try reading the new testament, and I feel your opinion may change.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on February 09, 2013, 06:53:42 PM
Hi Eileen ,Susan McGreevy here, how is everyone doing?
Susan, did you live in Chemical St
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: ec on February 09, 2013, 10:18:45 PM
Well Susan, how are you, hope all is well.  Cant say how many years its been from I last spoke to you.  Everybody is doing great.  Any chance of you coming home for a visit.  Was just telling our Patricia today that you had got in touch through this forum.  Are you on facebook, if yes I am under Cullen and Patricia is under Braniff.

Last seen your mum at Maureens funeral, must say her, mary and teasie doing great, hope I am good at their age.

Must tell our Thomas u have been in touch.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: ec on February 09, 2013, 10:23:43 PM
jonjoe - as far as I can remember, the glenholmes and kings were cousins of the  kellys.  My aunt Becky Kelly's married name was mccann and aunt maggie kelly's married name was fitzsimmons. the armours were also cousins of the kellys.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sagirl on February 10, 2013, 10:00:17 PM
Hi Eileen

Dad was asking about you, Patricia and Thomas. Thinks its hysterical we connecting on here!!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: ec on February 10, 2013, 11:35:39 PM
Hi Trish, tell ur dad we're all okay.  Hope everything good with u.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Rooney on February 18, 2013, 12:25:10 AM
You must have know my brother Alex Ferris? Lisbon street
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on February 18, 2013, 09:46:51 AM
I remember Alex he was a brother inlaw of a man that worked with me, Gerry Gourley, how is Gerry theses days.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: [email protected] on February 23, 2013, 09:03:46 PM
Mr and Mrs Kelly were my first call in Short Strand
May
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: LisaMorgan23 on February 26, 2013, 04:58:49 PM
To Gerard McG, Just to let you know that both Gerald Morgan and Nelly Morgan have passed away. Gerald Morgan's my daddy and Nelly was my great aunt.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Denis Patterson on February 27, 2013, 07:13:58 PM
Sorry to hear  about Nelly RIP new her years ago when she had us for net ball and swiming I left  the short strand in 1968....

Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Alaun on February 28, 2013, 05:17:11 AM
Hi Lisa, your aunt Nellie was bridesmaid to my cousin Marie McGuigan. They were great friends, and lived a few doors from each other in Clyde street.
Sorry to hear  about Nelly RIP new her years ago when she had us for net ball and swiming I left  the short strand in 1968....
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: celticfrankie on February 28, 2013, 03:51:04 PM
alaun went to school with georgie  mc guigan went to school in st matts in the 50s to 1960 he had a big bro named lorno r u the same family
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Alaun on March 01, 2013, 12:04:21 AM
I think you mean Lawrence ( Lorno) McGuigan, he was Geordie Mc Guigan's cousin on his fathers side.  Geordie was my cousin on HIS mother's side. Geordie died a few years ago, I think he would have been 76 this year. My brother Joe Bell went to St.Matthews in the early 50's. I am down here in Australia, but go back quite often and visit Geordie's three younger brothers, Thomas, Sean, and Bobby.
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jimmyo on March 01, 2013, 10:28:00 AM
Didn't lorno have a brother named George
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: celticfrankie on March 01, 2013, 08:12:05 PM
yes jimmyo george was the same age as me he went to london he would have been about 66
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Alaun on March 02, 2013, 04:02:26 AM
You could both be right, because Lorno's father was named Geordie. I know his mother was Maggie and one of his sisters is Alice. So my cousin Geordie could well have been called after Lorno's father (his uncle)
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on March 02, 2013, 05:15:02 AM
To Gerard McG, Just to let you know that both Gerald Morgan and Nelly Morgan have passed away. Gerald Morgan's my daddy and Nelly was my great aunt.

Thank you for that,Lisa.I have sent you a PM.

2 lovely people gone.                         Sad.....As always.
I am sure that you miss him,dreadfully.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sagirl on March 03, 2013, 12:29:34 AM
Hi Lisa

My Mum and Nelly were best  friends and both my parents were very close to all the family
Mum is Mary Gargan and Dad Billy or as is known in the short strand as Willie Kelly

Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: LisaMorgan23 on March 04, 2013, 04:29:40 PM
Gerard Mc G,

Yes we miss him terribly, it was quite a shock when it happened. Suppose thats the result of a terrible accident.

I hear Nelly was a very popular character around the Short Strand, it's nice to hear some history about the family :)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on March 06, 2013, 01:30:31 AM
Nelly was,indeed,very popular.Always rushing here and there doing something for the chapel.
Let's not forget your granda(Patsy). The Greatest Celtic supporter Belfast ever knew.When they won the European Cup his smile lasted forever.Great man for giving naughty boys a good kick up the [censored].LOL.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: LisaMorgan23 on March 06, 2013, 12:28:08 PM
Well now I know where my daddy got his football enthusiasm from, although he was a Man U supporter through and through!! As a father of 3 girls, he had no one to pass that on to so I got the short straw and he passed his enthusiasm onto me :) (I am now a regular watcher of Utd matches)
As you probably know, my grandad passed away when Daddy was quite young so none of us were fortunate to meet him but I'm very glad to hear what a great character he was!
Title: Donaldsons of Seafords St
Post by: Lindel on March 11, 2013, 03:00:36 PM
Does anyone know if Denis Donaldson, who was from Seaforde St (I believe), any relation of Robert Denis Donaldson from 62 Anderson Street, who was found guilty in 1940 of membership of the RIA and in possession of a rifle and a Mills bomb and so on? Or is it just coincidence? What was the name of the Seaforde St man's father and mother?
Title: Donaldsons of Seafords St
Post by: Lindel on March 11, 2013, 03:01:19 PM
Member of IRA not RIA!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on March 13, 2013, 02:01:36 PM
Could any of you strand people answer this question for me please. Are the following people still alive and well. Joe Cooper, Madrid st, Stewarty Murray, Chemical st, Paul, Dessie, Raymond and Thomas Bateson, Joe Price, all from Beechfield st.
John and Eamon Mc Cusker, Mountpottinger rd. They were all Sean Martin GAA stalwarts, Id love to know how they are all doing
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Moondog40 on March 13, 2013, 03:42:31 PM
Think. All alive. Bar  john ( chips) mccusker, Eamon does well in hospitality business
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: boxer1949 on March 13, 2013, 04:14:25 PM
(http://i48.tinypic.com/29xw7zm.jpg)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on March 13, 2013, 04:19:43 PM
Can anyone put names to these faces. A couple look very familiar. :)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 13, 2013, 05:08:20 PM
Think. All alive. Bar  john ( chips) mccusker, Eamon does well in hospitality business
Stewarty Murray has passed  on a few years ago as far as I know.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 13, 2013, 05:31:38 PM
Can anyone put names to these faces. A couple look very familiar. :)
The top right four are John Bannon, George Crane, ----- Cooley, and Eddie Gowdy.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on March 13, 2013, 06:45:41 PM
Jimmy Holmes RIP, this I think is the Brit bar darts team
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 13, 2013, 11:24:03 PM
Can anyone put names to these faces. A couple look very familiar. :)
One of the guys on the left looks like Elvis to me.
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Mary K. Rossi on March 26, 2013, 01:46:05 PM
I think the guy who looks like Elvis is Dickie Smith from Beechfield St.?????
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: GandT on March 26, 2013, 03:12:50 PM
Quote
I think the guy who looks like Elvis is Dickie Smith from Beechfield St.
To me as well but I knew him as Ricky Smith.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Mary K. Rossi on March 26, 2013, 08:28:10 PM
Is he still around?  I knew him when I was a kid.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: kate.o on March 27, 2013, 12:27:03 AM
one in the back about the middle white shirt , a young Tony Morelly R.I.P. if it is.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Denis Patterson on April 04, 2013, 04:39:26 PM
Hi Rosaleen hows things with you. See you have not been on the forum welcome back . Did you have a nice Easter . Wee are having very bad  weather here lots of snow and very cold. Roll on summer wee could with some sun  
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: scully500 on April 08, 2013, 04:16:23 PM
Hi Rinty,
Do you still live in the Short Strand? Wanted to know if you knew the Farrelly family of Seaforde Street? My granmother was Sarah Farrelly and my uncle Jimmy Farrelly who was well known in the area. Sadly both are deceased now, but my mothers cousins lived in Kilmood St.
My name is Susan mc Greevy i lived in Chemical street, i used to play with Mrs Farrellys grand kids  she was a lovely woman always so nice ,did u live in England and come visit?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on May 24, 2013, 07:27:08 PM
the guy who looks like elvis is dickie smyth a cousin of george cranes. i think the guy to the left of eddie gowdy is jimmy holmes.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: cannon on May 25, 2013, 11:09:36 AM
one in the back about the middle white shirt , a young Tony Morelly R.I.P. if it is.
Sorry kat.o, he isn't Tony Morelli.     cannon.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on June 08, 2013, 01:13:48 PM
one in the back about the middle white shirt , a young Tony Morelly R.I.P. if it is.
That man is John Bannon from Carlton Street.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on June 12, 2013, 07:24:04 PM
i dont think raymond bateson is still alive but i could well be wrong.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: shortstrandRED on September 26, 2013, 10:25:34 PM
Bottom right... Thomas McCrory,brother of Francie and Rita(irvine)

Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: shortstrandRED on September 26, 2013, 10:39:12 PM
Sheriff st.

Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: shortstrandRED on September 26, 2013, 10:47:11 PM
Sheriff st.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: shortstrandRED on September 26, 2013, 10:48:17 PM
Sheriff st.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: shortstrandRED on September 26, 2013, 10:49:48 PM
Bottom right... Thomas McCrory,brother of Francie and Rita(irvine)
sry,tryn wrk ths out
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on October 10, 2013, 07:23:20 PM
sad news about the passing of michael bennett r.i.p. a neighbour and friend to all my family for many,many years. our thoughts and prayers are with his family.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: JuneElaine on October 13, 2013, 01:43:49 AM
I am trying to find out who lived at 23 Short Strand in 1910. Would anyone know how I could find out this information. Thank you. June
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Alaun on October 13, 2013, 07:40:11 AM
Michael Bennett was married to my cousin, who was killed in the 'troubles'. I went to see Michael when I was back home in July. So pleased that I did.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: artibell on October 13, 2013, 01:58:34 PM
I am trying to find out who lived at 23 Short Strand in 1910. Would anyone know how I could find out this information. Thank you. June

23 Clyde Street Halfpenny Patk. Labourer
  1910 Street Directory

http://www.lenBelf\ast onwylie.co.uk/ (http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/)

I got it from this site it has a lot of Belfast Street Directories
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: artibell on October 14, 2013, 08:35:28 PM
I am trying to find out who lived at 23 Short Strand in 1910. Would anyone know how I could find out this information. Thank you. June

23 Short Strand  Bell, Mrs Sarah

1964 Street Directory
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Denis Patterson on October 17, 2013, 03:27:33 PM
Sorry to hear that news about Michael.. Jonjo  do you every see are hear of Joe Thompson who   lived in the strand .. Marie..
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: julie gartland on October 22, 2013, 02:21:49 PM
Hi Julie Turley here'josie turleys. Daughter..we lived at 28 Vulcan street next door to Mrs Donnelly anyone with any info please email [email protected] thank you.or get me on Facebook.."Julie gartland Turley----thank you
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: julie gartland on October 22, 2013, 02:39:42 PM
dose anyone remember Laim and John Lawler from the Strand :-\ :-\
..I remember terry he used to hand bout with r liam.....liam turley
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: julie gartland on October 22, 2013, 02:56:25 PM
Hi I'm Julie Turley,,,,,josies daughter we lived n 28 Vulcan st. There was 5 of us..liam,Annemarie,Susan,myself,Norman...any info most welcome...email [email protected] or Facebook --julie  gartland Turley, thank you
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: julie gartland on October 22, 2013, 03:51:34 PM
Hi I'm Julie Turley,,,,,josies daughter we lived n 28 Vulcan st. There was 5 of us..liam,Annemarie,Susan,myself,Norman...any info most welcome...email [email protected] or Facebook --julie  gartland Turley, thank you
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on October 25, 2013, 07:22:46 PM
artiebell: if i,m not mistaken 23 short strand was the first house in the strand beside the boneyard. if so the family who i knew very well was sarah bell & husband johnny,sons paddy, bobby, john, i think there were two daughters their married names were kayes & sheridan.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on October 25, 2013, 07:28:35 PM
julie gartland:i think you also lived near hamiltons, murdocks & oneills & facing lottery winner peter laverys parents if i,m not mistaken. p.s. i thought you were brilliant in the wizard of oz.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on October 25, 2013, 07:32:51 PM
denis patterson aka marie havn,t seen or heard of joe for a while but i seen one of his older brothers at michael bennetts furneral.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: julie gartland on October 25, 2013, 07:40:50 PM
jo's been dead for years ..its other info i need...
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickybo on October 27, 2013, 12:29:07 PM
I am trying to find out who lived at 23 Short Strand in 1910. Would anyone know how I could find out this information. Thank you. June
1911 cencus ,this would be the closest most accurite record,you can do it online and check belfast pottenger ward.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Denis Patterson on October 27, 2013, 12:33:50 PM
Jonjoe  did Harry die ..Hows  Catherine keeping hope all is going  well for her....M..
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: artibell on October 27, 2013, 02:42:16 PM
artiebell: if i,m not mistaken 23 short strand was the first house in the strand beside the boneyard. if so the family who i knew very well was sarah bell & husband johnny,sons paddy, bobby, john, i think there were two daughters their married names were kayes & sheridan.

You are right  23 Short Strand Mrs. Sarah Bell
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickydiddle on November 02, 2013, 07:49:10 AM
denis patterson aka marie havn,t seen or heard of joe for a while but i seen one of his older brothers at michael bennetts furneral.
Hello Jonjoe, sorry for hijacking your thread but I wondered since you know the families of the short strand would you know my dads family . Edward the father was a teamster, Margaret the mother was a seamstress I believe there were daughters Sadie,Masie, and Bridie
A son Eddie and my dad Harry/Henry. I think they may have lived at number 10, I believe it was close to the end of the row possibly next to a corner shop situated on Short Strand and a road leading to the backs of Scirrocco works. Thanks,
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bridge ender on November 02, 2013, 11:33:25 PM
HI All   welcome to BF   mickeydiddle 
 
          what is the surname?   you seem to describe Quinn St which is off Short strand   
 
                                                         BE
 
                                                     
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on November 03, 2013, 07:22:23 AM
jo's been dead for years ..its other info i need...
Julie, did you used to live in Huddlesons place
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: mickydiddle on November 03, 2013, 09:00:37 AM
Hello Bridgender, I can't seem to reply directly to your message insofar as clicking on a quote button, there's just a logged symbol there so I'll try this. The surname was O'Neill but I believe there were two families with the same name within a couple of doors of each other. I'll dig out some more info and get back to you. Thanks, Mickydiddle.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: julie gartland on November 03, 2013, 02:19:29 PM
yes when i was  very houng...i dont remember it....i just remember vulcan st
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on November 04, 2013, 07:31:32 PM
julie gartland: when you say josie do you mean wee jo jo who was involved in a terrible accident.? i remember john turley & his wife they were great singers, we would go on bus runs to omeath & the day was one long singsong.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: MargaretS on November 18, 2013, 12:25:44 PM
Anyone know the wereabouts of some one who was on the belfast forum sometime ago
Under the name of GOLDEN  said was from sheriff street  shortstrand
I think he is or was in australia
Please let me know
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on November 22, 2013, 07:36:07 PM
aidan:i just noticed your old post as i was looking for something else my granny was margaret prince.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on November 22, 2013, 07:41:06 PM
oledad: i remember his father jim who worked in the cattle pens (maysfield) i think his mother was a rainey.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on November 22, 2013, 07:46:05 PM
olelad:if you knew martin power you must have known some of my brothers, maurice,edward & jim carew.& maybe peter stratton.?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on November 22, 2013, 07:49:39 PM
shaz:it was vulcan st. the mc dowells lived in i went to school with your uncle bobby.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: julie gartland on November 22, 2013, 07:54:30 PM
Jonjoe...jojo is one of my uncles havent seen him in years. .my uncle john n aunt ellien  r from strand elieen died while bk...so did my uncle joe...my brothers r liam .norman turley.sistersr susan n annmarie...im youngest girl..
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: olelad on November 25, 2013, 08:20:11 AM
olelad:if you knew martin power you must have known some of my brothers, maurice,edward & jim carew.& maybe peter stratton.?

jon i didnt know martin rip when living in belfast. i meet him when we moved to craigavon. theres a chance i did know some of your brothers as i went to gusties and knocked about the strand afew times but cant really place the names.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: walsh1940 on December 05, 2013, 08:02:49 PM
Hi, does anyone remember the Walsh family from Clyde Street?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: GandT on December 06, 2013, 12:44:01 AM
I am looking to trace the whereabouts of a woman whose own name is Ellen Maginniss -from Beechfield Street originally, I think. Her late father's name would have been Lawrence Maginniss. She may be married and I would not know her married name. This is to try to put in touch with a cousin who lives in England and who would like to speak / write to her. If anyone knows her or her address, I would appreciate any information. Please send it by PM if you do as I do not want to publish anything more than her name without her go-ahead. Thanks
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: eirefan on December 06, 2013, 01:35:48 AM
olelad his father Jim did indeed work in the cattle pens at Maysfield, he worked with my dad there. I met him and Paul many times when ever my dad would collect me from St Augustines if he was short handed at the pens.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Mary K. Rossi on December 06, 2013, 03:16:54 PM
 I remember Peter Stratton.  I heard from Jim Stratton about a year ago.  He's in England.  We are all cousins on the Bradley side of the family.   The Strattons lived on Seaforde St. upstairs from the two brothers whose name I can't remember (Edgar?) and across from them lived the Powers next door to the Kilties.  Maura Stratton and I used to hang out together.  I lived at 59 Seaforde St.  My brother, George Walsh, lived on Vulcan St. with his wife Una (RIP) for many years.  Maura lived on Lowry St and took care of her aunt Bella Bradley.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Smickair on December 14, 2013, 07:10:41 PM
Sheriff st.

It seams most of the people from short strand lived in sheriff street
How many house s. Were in this street
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: GandT on December 15, 2013, 05:21:05 PM
Quote
I lived at 59 Seaforde St.  My brother, George Walsh, lived on Vulcan St. with his wife Una (RIP) for many years.
We lived at 79 Seaforde Street [last house - beside Bell's and opposite Bobby McCartney's yard] until the family moved when I was aged 10 or 11. I still continued into all my teenage years [and even slightly later] going back over to aunts and friends every weekend. I seem to remember George Walsh [vaguely] in that street and I also seem to recall Phyllis[?] as being one of the family. But unsure - perhaps the memory goes haywire after a certain point.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Mary K. Rossi on December 16, 2013, 12:10:27 AM
I remember the Bells.  They had a lot of little kids.  George was my brother and Phyllis my sister.  George, sadly, is in nursing care with dementia.  What is your name?  Do you remember Ann McGlade?  She lived next door to your house on the corner on Beechfield St.  Did you know the McMullens and the Burns.  The O'Neills?  I heard from Marion and Agnus recently.  Mr. O'Neill used to give us a ride on the back of his truck.  Do you remember the Gormans?  Mickie (Akie) Curren?  He called me recently too.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: GandT on December 16, 2013, 08:38:27 AM
I remember a man whose nickname was 'Bubbles' McGlade and I do remember Ackie Curran but he, I think, would have been older than I am. I was actually best friends with Gerard Gorman and knew his brothers, Jimmy and tommy and his sister, Kathleen? Mrs Gorman was a lovely wee woman and would supply us liberally with jam sandwiches when we were playing in their yard or the seemingly wide expanses of Noble's field.
I was at a funeral in St Matthew's about a year ago and was speaking to Gerard Gorman [who looks almost as young and as well as he did when he was a kid]. Other people I remember would include - Jim Bell [RIP], Geordie and Marie Bell, Jim and Harry Elliot [lived with Faloonas, I think], May Young's shop, McConvery's shop etc.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on December 16, 2013, 03:30:48 PM
gandt: if i,m not mistaken bennetts lived in 79,they were no relation to the bennetts at 47.I just remember michael & maura ,i bump into maura now & again, she lives in the west now.(belfast). i lived next door to michael walsh (ackey curran).they were 43 we were 45. you,r right about gerald gorman i keep telling him he must have a painting in the attic like dorrian grey.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on December 16, 2013, 03:34:50 PM
smickair: it wasn,t the number of houses in the street it was the number of people in the houses. God bless the man who invented bunk beds.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: GandT on December 16, 2013, 05:29:28 PM
Hi jonjoe
have sent you a PM
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Smickair on December 16, 2013, 05:32:01 PM
smickair: it wasn,t the number of houses in the street it was the number of people in the houses. God bless the man who invented bunk beds.

It was same were I lived
Was there a Jim or John  Bennett lived in sheriff  street 
Would be in late sixties now
Did he go to australia
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: GandT on December 16, 2013, 05:38:30 PM
Quote
It was same were I lived
Was there a Jim or John  Bennett lived in sheriff  street 
Would be in late sixties now
Did he go to australia
Could have but the only Bennetts I knew lived in 79 and another family further down Seaforde Street at no 47, jonjoe says. There were Bennetts in Thompson Place and Harry Bennett lived in Moira Street [I think?]
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bridge ender on December 20, 2013, 12:11:53 AM
Hi All
 
since when did Seaforde St belong on the Short Strand .The bus depot and Richardsons fertillisers and a few houses .Ballymacarrett is the proper area
 name.
 
                                      BE 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: yakkiebush on December 20, 2013, 12:29:08 AM
East endear is there a boundary in short strand,Iwas born in perry st,and went to beech field primary school,
Now I'm led to believe that the street and school were in short strand,
Any official maps dividing streets or rds floating about to confirm this.
Cheers
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: GandT on December 20, 2013, 12:20:24 PM
Quote
Hi All
 
since when did Seaforde St belong on the Short Strand .The bus depot and Richardsons fertillisers and a few houses .Ballymacarrett is the proper area
 name.
 

So what? Who cares?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on December 20, 2013, 07:42:32 PM
smickair:the bennett family that lived in 47 seaforde st. were father & mother john ( punter) & mary sons george, michael, francie, john,(junior) jim & sister lily sometimes called lizzie. john senior (punter) francie, john (junior) & jim were always away at sea on the cruise liners. mrs. bennett passed away and the boys rarely came home to belfast, john did leave the boats and married a widow called ann holmes and settled in sheriff st. george &michael never left belfast. michael married a lovely girl marie (mcguigan)who perished in the strand bar bomb. francie& jim settled in southhamton when they retired from the boats.sadly jim now bearing the nickname punter is the only member of the original family still alive. they were a lovely family not remembered by many because they spent so long away at sea.i will always remember them because they treated me with great kindness when i was a child.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on December 20, 2013, 07:57:55 PM
bridgeender:i would like once & for all try to sort this seaforde st./ short strand thing out.the problem is that strand people thought they were the bees knees, we on the other hand in seaforde st. knew we were the bees knees. but dont get me wrong we didn,t hate them or anything we just wouldn,t let our sons or daughters marry one of them.in fact i would go as far as to say when we were playing football in nobles field we loved to see strand people there because they kept the flies of our candy apples. i expect there will now be a fatwa put on me.but i dont care because it is the season to be jolly.lol. merry christmas everyone( except th strandmen)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: celticfrankie on December 20, 2013, 08:05:49 PM
thanks  mate at least we got rid of the flies u lot attracted them
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Mary K. Rossi on December 30, 2013, 02:17:48 PM
Here is a street directory from 1943.  It includes all the homes in the Short Strand and the names and occupations of the people who lived there. 
 
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/scomplete1910.htm (http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/scomplete1910.htm)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: zazooooo on January 01, 2014, 10:37:20 PM
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/scomplete1943.htm  :)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: dopeydavy on January 03, 2014, 04:43:04 AM
many thanks for the post,took me back a bit, ;)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on January 03, 2014, 07:23:17 PM
mary k: i found that directory really interesting a lot of my family are not living at the addresses i knew them to be.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on January 17, 2014, 07:40:06 PM
webby: just noticed your comment i went to school with frankie webb.
Title: Re: Nobel's Field
Post by: Mary K. Rossi on January 23, 2014, 04:13:47 PM
 Nobel’s field backed up to our house at 59 Seaforde St. It was the playground for the neighborhood kids who lived in the district known as the Short Strand. The neighborhood was a ghetto, we had no playgrounds, so Nobel’s field was ours. The only thing we had plenty of was imagination.
In the “field” we could become anything we wanted. We could dig trenches and pretend we were soldiers in the war. We could build sheds, play cowboys and Indians. Pretend we were in a show or reenact the picture we just saw at the Pop or the Drome. We would sing at the top of lungs, the songs we learned from one another.
Kids would play marlies, and on Sunday after mass the men would congregate in the field and gamble. Tossing coins in the air and calling “heads or tails” Sunday always brought the sound of bagpipes from St. Matthews club. The old hut was falling down, but the boys still went there to practice.
On the rare occasion it snowed, we would ride down the little hill on the bin lids and scream with joy. Often, in cold weather we would throw a bucket of water on the ground so that it would freeze and we would make it a slide.
The girls would use a brush to create the walls of pretend houses in the dirt by packing the dirt and making it into mounds. Glass was collected in all colors and put into jam jars to pretend it was sweets in our wee shop. Pieces of aluminum from cigarettes packages wrapped around stones was used as chocolate bars. We would play fish and chip shop and cut up potatoes and put them in a pot of salty water and eat them raw. The boys would play cricket with old socks rolled up for a ball. If anyone had a football it was treasured and guarded.
We dug holes in the walls and climbed into the property behind the field and were often chased away and threatened by the police to keep out. We would scale the walls, at least 15 feet high, using missing brick holes and juts in the bricks as grips. The broken glass embedded in the cement on top of the wall did not deter us. It was our Mount Everest. We were mountain climbers.
In the summer we collected old wooden crates, planks and old tires or anything that would burn and store it in the Field until August 15 and on that night in the street in front of May Young’s, screams of delight. It was the best event of the year. If we were lucky we might get kissed by a boy. We would go home smelling of smoke with our eyes black from the soot.
When they finally walled in the field, we were outraged. How could they do that? We still tried to climb the walls, but it was not the same. The old bricks had grips, the new one did not, so it made it more difficult to get up the wall. The end of an era had come. Our Nobel’s field was gone.
 
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Jim B on January 24, 2014, 12:03:21 AM
Hi Mary I just read one of your earlier post regarding old school friends. Madeline Lundy from Lowry street is my first cousin. She is doing well and lives in Glengormley. Her mother ( My Aunt) just passed away Aug 2013 at the grand old age of 97.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Mary K. Rossi on January 24, 2014, 01:41:24 PM
Please give Madeline my regards when you see her.  I think often of the Lowry St. girls and all the fun we had together.  I'd like to hear from more of them.  I'm sorry to hear about her mother. 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Mary K. Rossi on January 24, 2014, 02:36:13 PM
I forgot to mention that my maiden name was Kinsella and my aunts, Jinnie and Mary, lived across from the Lundys on Lowry St.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jonjoe on January 31, 2014, 07:49:59 PM
mary kinsella: i really enjoyed reading your memories of "the field" i remember everything being just as you describe.you may find this interesting,on a short visit to the district a few weeks ago i was walking around trying to imagine where everything used to be when i realised what was different although the place is full of lovely houses now there are no "corners"now. when we were younger the place had "corners" everywhere here you went to meet up with your mates, there was may youngs shop(to close to our house for me) the shop across from the shack on beechfield st. both corners of beechfield st./mountpotting rd. kevin currans shop altcar st. my favourite was "scoop mc guinnesses" shop corner of thompson st,/miora st. there were loads of corners all over the place hughes shop corner of  vulcan st./saul st. cullens shop seaforde st.converys shop at the school to name but a few. when i ask my nephews did they still meet their mates at "corners" they laughed fit to burst. "unc" they said we all have mobile phones now we dont need corners! me i think it,s sad they dont know what their missing.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Mary K. Rossi on February 01, 2014, 04:42:57 PM
I remember all those corners well and very fondly.  Those were the best of times.  We just didn't know it.  I left Seaforde St. when I was 14 and all I had to take with me was the memories of the people and places I'd left behind.  Those memories kept me going when times got tough.  The sights and sound of the district are etched in my mind forever.  I'll never forget the good people and their kindness.  I'll never forget my chums and the great fun we had together.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: opsey on February 17, 2014, 07:09:23 PM
My mum grew up in sheriff street,Christina Walsh.....anyone remember her? She lived in no.49
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: sydenhambetty on February 17, 2014, 07:46:52 PM
I remember all those corners well and very fondly.  Those were the best of times.  We just didn't know it.  I left Seaforde St. when I was 14 and all I had to take with me was the memories of the people and places I'd left behind.  Those memories kept me going when times got tough.  The sights and sound of the district are etched in my mind forever.  I'll never forget the good people and their kindness.  I'll never forget my chums and the great fun we had together.
.    Mary even though I grew up in Sydenham like you I will always the good times and friends I had around your neighbourhood. My family all lived in altar street but had many friends at your end. The best of people. :-*
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BellaBella on February 23, 2014, 10:05:31 AM
Mary and Jinny Kinsella, lived opposite Martha and Bella Bradley, remember they use to sell chocolates for charity, I am Bella Bradleys granddaughter Isobel  Ria Lundy  and Susan Lundy lived a few doors from us.  Maura Stratton is my cousin. 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: jackiehillis on February 23, 2014, 05:37:38 PM
Mary and Jinny Kinsella, lived opposite Martha and Bella Bradley, remember they use to sell chocolates for charity, I am Bella Bradleys granddaughter Isobel  Ria Lundy  and Susan Lundy lived a few doors from us.  Maura Stratton is my cousin.
   BellaBella. My sister is married to a John Stratton from Severn Street. Her name is Marie ( Hillis ) Stratton.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BellaBella on February 24, 2014, 04:59:32 AM
Mary I have tried to reply to you, no avail, Maura came to visit me a few years ago , Jim last year he is the spitting image of his father Hughie Stratton, John and Peter still in N I  willie passed a couple of years ago, I have lived in Australia for the last 43 years have gone back a few times but I couldn't live there its nice to see all the relatives again though. Lily Watson died last year whom I stead with when I went over.  Tommy Bradley is still in the uk get a Christmas card every year as far as I know he is ok.   Isobel   
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Mary K. Rossi on February 24, 2014, 01:20:49 PM
Isobel:  So nice to hear from you.  I was surprised to hear you live in Australia.  How did you end up there.  Are you married, have kids?  What about your father?  I found another cousin, Maureen Bell living there too.  I found her on the Belfast Forum too.  I had lost touch with most of the people I knew, except for the family.  Please give Maura my regards when you hear from her again.  She and I used to hang out together and go to the movies on a Friday night up the Castlerea road.  I have lived in the US since 1957.  It was a big adjustment for me because I came here alone and lived with my sister, Betty.  I missed everyone at home for the longest time, and still have moments when that feeling comes back.  My brother Patrick Kinsella and George Walsh as well as my sisters Joan and Phyllis are still living in Belfast.  I don't know how they survived all the trouble there for so long.  My oldest brother, Michael, will be 90 in May.  The last time I went home was in 1979 after my mother died and I was terrified.  I have adjusted to the life here.  I have two kids, John and Jeannine and five grandkids.  The grandkids are ranging in age from 16 to 22.  4 boys 1 girl.  They are all very good to me.  Thank goodness.  My husband Richard, died in 2004.  Give my love to all.  Write back if you can.  I'm still searching for my old chums from Seafore and Lowry St. Slante,  Mary
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Moondog40 on February 24, 2014, 04:52:31 PM
I knew  marie  stitt. From  Lowry street.    Jimmy irving. Also
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BellaBella on February 24, 2014, 11:56:59 PM
Moondog I knew Marie stitt. She moved to New Zealand I think don't know jimmy irvine
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BellaBella on February 25, 2014, 12:05:33 AM
Good u got my message. We moved to oz in 1970 troubles were on at that time I married a chap from the falls rd we have two daughters both interstate no grandkids they r too career minded  .belfast is a great place to visit may go to there in a few years we have a wedding to go to in May or June in New York . Australia is a very big country most folk go to Melbourne or Sydney  where is your friend ? Mary I don't know where the time has flown all the years I have been here I haven't lost my accent . My father remarried I have two half sisters and a half brother he is in New Zealand one sister in France and one in South of Ireland. Seamus passed away a few years back he married a wonderful London lady whom I am still in touch with.  Isobel. 
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Mary K. Rossi on February 25, 2014, 01:12:47 AM
My sister Phyllis wants to know what about Thomas?  Also, I see someone remembers Marie Stitt from Lowry St.,  I heard from Madeline Lundy's cousin also from Agnes and Marion O'Neill and Mickey (Akie) Curren recently and some others from Seaforde St.  I have been trying to find Ann Wright for years.  No one has contacted me yet about her.  I hear she went to England.  If you are in New York, you should give me a call.  Maybe we can get together.  Where is the wedding?  You mentioned that my aunts, Jinny and Mary used to sell chocolate for charity.  When I was a kid, until I left home, they had me running all over the neighborhood collecting money for Mater Hospital and also for Nazareth Lodge.  They also went on pilgrimages to Knock Shrine.  I think Aunt Mary organized the trips.  Anyway, they always kept me busy with their charity work.
 
Mary
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Mary K. Rossi on February 25, 2014, 01:13:39 AM
Forgot to mention that Phyllis' late husband, Hugh Mc Gratten was related to the Strattons.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BellaBella on February 25, 2014, 05:53:13 AM
Thomas lives in uk haven't seen him in about 25 years hear he is ok get the odd Christmas card.  Don't know date for the wedding when I do will let know .you know our Thomas was a full cousin on the Bradley's side and full cousin on the Stratton s side his father was a Stratton  Marie stitt lived near the convent side a few doors from the Kelly s next door to the troops remember them.  Margaret Crosby she moved to New York I think.  Isobel
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Mary K. Rossi on February 25, 2014, 08:12:26 PM
I tried to send you this personal message but it seems not to have gone out to you.
 
I do remember all who lived on Lowry St.  A great bunch of people.  Do you know anything about Dorothy Mc Guinty?   I heard Ann Burns died recently.  She was a beautiful girl.  Do you do any ancestry research?  I would love to know more about my grandmother.  She was Mary Bradley-Kinsella.  I don't know where in Donegal she came from, but only that the family moved to the Market from there.  I have been doing family research on my mother's side, but don't know much about the Bradleys. 
I live in Holbrook, Long Island, New York.  My phone number here is 631 471-5100.  You can use my email address to get in touch with me if you like. [email protected]   ([email protected])  I am retired now.  Lots of time on my hands.
 
Mary
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Moondog40 on February 28, 2014, 12:51:44 AM
Moondog I knew Marie stitt. She moved to New Zealand I think don't know jimmy irvine
jimmy as married to my late sister and they both.      Marie and jimmy lived in the house in  lowrey st  I was in  nz ast year thin she is now  in oz.  He would be gone  50  odd yrs
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: kptz on April 23, 2014, 10:12:28 PM
Hello,

I am hoping this is the right place to post. 

Are the streets Vulcan, Mountpottiger Rd, Seaforde Street, and Bryson Street in the Short Strand?  I am looking for photos of St. Matthews, inside and out, on Bryson Street.  My great-grandparents and grandparents were baptized and married there.  My grandparent's children were all baptized there. 

Would there be photos of Mountpottinger Rd, Seaforde St, Vulcan around before all the redevelopment?

Thanks in advance.
kptz
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: bhelena on April 24, 2014, 01:54:49 AM
when i look at the short strand it reminds me of that Elvis song. .. in the ghetto!!!!!!!
Its all of east Belfast that's the ghetto  or maybe just people like you  >:D
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: barry on April 24, 2014, 02:11:45 AM
Its all of east Belfast that's the ghetto  or maybe just people like you  >:D

  Hello  Helena ,  how's  things  going,  good  I  hope    *
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: chi on April 24, 2014, 02:33:06 AM
Its all of east Belfast that's the ghetto  or maybe just people like you  >:D

My parents were married in St Mathews
My older brothers & sisters went to
school there. I always loved visiting
my aunt who lived on Mountpottinger
across from Vulcan St. :-*
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: kptz on April 24, 2014, 05:28:13 AM
Its all of east Belfast that's the ghetto  or maybe just people like you  >:D

I don't understand your response
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gerard Mcg on April 24, 2014, 11:09:46 PM
(http://www.stmatthewsparish.org/final-all/images/2chapels.jpg)

Here's a great link:http://www.armatilearchitectural.com/Projects/ProjectSpecific/11/CHU/st-matthews-church-belfast.aspx

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/70993000/jpg/_70993218_church1.jpg)
 (http://www.armatilearchitectural.com/Projects/ProjectSpecific/11/CHU/st-matthews-church-belfast.aspx)
Title: Re: Pope John 23
Post by: Mary K. Rossi on April 28, 2014, 09:34:14 PM
Does anyone have a copy of the drawing my uncle, Willie Mc Namara, did of the Pope.  He made it in the 50s or 60s.  I would love to have a copy for my family now that the good man is a Saint.  Willie Mc Namara (aka Liam Mc Namara) lived on Sherrif St.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: kptz on April 30, 2014, 09:26:03 PM
(http://www.stmatthewsparish.org/final-all/images/2chapels.jpg)

Here's a great link:http://www.armatilearchitectural.com/Projects/ProjectSpecific/11/CHU/st-matthews-church-belfast.aspx

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/70993000/jpg/_70993218_church1.jpg)
 (http://www.armatilearchitectural.com/Projects/ProjectSpecific/11/CHU/st-matthews-church-belfast.aspx)

Thanks for the website and for posting the pictures!

kptz
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: rathlin on May 08, 2014, 12:41:51 PM
 
 
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z258/jdblf/woodstockst1_zpsb621e92b.jpg) (http://)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: ceili on May 19, 2014, 12:10:47 PM
Can anyone put me in touch with Danny Lawlor?
Title: Re: Willie Mc Namara - Pope John 23
Post by: Mary K. Rossi on May 29, 2014, 10:59:46 PM
 Does anyone have a copy of the drawing my uncle, Willie Mc Namara, did of the Pope.  He made it in the 50s or 60s.  I would love to have a copy for my family now that the good man is a Saint.  Willie Mc Namara (aka Liam Mc Namara) lived on Sherrif St.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Margana on June 10, 2014, 05:53:03 PM
All the streets in the markets are called after peoples names, but the strand is a puzzle. Some are names, Thompson, Moira, AAron; others cities, Lisbon, Madrid. Then it just changes to jibberish, Kilmood, sherriff, were did they think them up.

There was meaning to some of the other names.
Seaforde and Comber are towns in County Down.
Saul is a townland near Downpatrick and Kilmood is a townland between Killinchy and Lisbane (near Comber)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Margana on June 10, 2014, 05:56:27 PM
Hi Rosaleen whats new with you,  Any  more info from  ST Monicas girls  as i said  last time have not seen any of them. Every one must be living away from Belfast lol :) .

I was speaking to my sister today and I think that she was at St Monica's at the same time - Jean Monaghan from Kilmood St? She still lives in the Strand in a development which is at the back of Cluan Place just behind the old Picturedrome.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on June 11, 2014, 07:29:05 AM
There was meaning to some of the other names.
Seaforde and Comber are towns in County Down.
Saul is a townland near Downpatrick and Kilmood is a townland between Killinchy and Lisbane (near Comber)
Thank you for that Margana, are you any relation to Francie Monaghan
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Margana on June 11, 2014, 01:27:43 PM
Thank you for that Margana, are you any relation to Francie Monaghan

I'm his brother, Robert, living in Downpatrick.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: e.rainey on June 25, 2014, 09:35:00 AM
Just love the Pics of St Matthews.Happy memories of going to Mass there and running through the grounds with My Cousins .My Dad  moved to the mainland and married here.He'd bring us all over for 3 weeks in the July/Aug.My dad was born at 74 Short Strand St .My Grandmother lived on Bryson Street although she lived on quite a few streets in that area over time.I went back to the Church just before it had finished being renovated the other year.Brought a lump to my throat when I stood outside and took Photo's.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: gen_bug on July 05, 2014, 02:58:30 AM
Hi Erin
 
My Aunt and Uncle lived in Vulcan Street, Jane & Harry O'Neil

Would love to chat about your family!!  Harry O'Neil was married to Jane Dempsey,sister to my husbands grandfather James Dempsey :)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast - Seaforde St/Lowry St. Kids photos 1950/1940s
Post by: Mary K. Rossi on September 10, 2014, 06:25:39 PM
Does anyone have any photos of the kids who lived on Seaforde St., or Lowry St., in the 1940s or 1950s?  If you do please share.  Burns, O'Neill, Lowry, Mc Glade, Powers, Kiltie, Henderson, Kelly, Mc Guinty.  Baker, Harper, Stratton, Curren. Troupe, Kinsella, Walsh, Harvey, Gorman. Mc Quade.  Young.  Nolan. Thanks!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: artibell on December 09, 2014, 04:36:29 PM
(http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j426/artibell/marieandann_zps1dc9e743.jpg) (http://)

Clyde Street Short Strand 1960s

Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Mary K. Rossi on December 31, 2014, 11:56:58 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlbZ0cb_5tE
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Goodoldtimes on March 26, 2015, 12:55:10 AM

Micky she sold them from her house I don't think she sold anthing else. But there were loads of people selling different things from there homes, another women in Anderson Street was Lizzie Carson who sold lemonade from her house, She was killed in the Strand bar she was really nice person.
Lizzie Carson was my Grandads sister
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 26, 2015, 06:44:24 AM
I have many happy memories when as a kid going to Lizzies her husband willie was a gentleman as well.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Goodoldtimes on March 26, 2015, 09:57:17 PM
She sold   (Wee  willie winkie  ) is her son Willie still alive ?
And are you still a member of THRUSH  :)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on March 27, 2015, 07:31:56 AM
I was talking to guy just last week who told me that Willie junior is still alive. Was that the name of the lemonade?
I am still a member of U.N.C.L.E. But don't tell anyone undercover😉
Is that Illya Kuryakin?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Goodoldtimes on March 27, 2015, 10:49:22 AM
Hi John
Yes  Illya here and Napoleon solo (Gerry) says hello and that was the nane of the  wee bottle of pop she sold.
Good to hear from you  :)
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Mary K. Rossi on May 25, 2015, 02:18:32 PM
Check out Friends of the Short Strand Past and Present on Facebook.  Lots of great photos.  Great memories.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on May 30, 2015, 08:44:18 AM
Anyone remember the name of the potatoe crisps that came with the wee blue paper salt pouch to shake over the crisps.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: citybloke on May 30, 2015, 04:17:36 PM
Were they called Smiths Crisps
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on May 30, 2015, 05:31:13 PM
Were they not Tudor Crisps? you could be right though.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Margana on May 31, 2015, 10:58:19 AM
I thought they were Tayto. In the early 60's the crisps were plain and you could add the salt if you preferred them that way. Later, Cheese and Onion flavour appeared.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: REP1 on May 31, 2015, 01:20:18 PM
Maybe there was more than brand doing the same thing?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Alaun on May 31, 2015, 02:00:51 PM
The crisps I bought were Smiths. Many a time I was at the pictures, and bit into the packet of salt by mistake.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Poll on July 13, 2015, 06:37:43 PM
Anyone remember O Neills  from Seaforde Street?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Mary K. Rossi on July 15, 2015, 01:50:35 AM
Poll:  I knew the O'Neills.  I sent you a personal message.  I have been in touch with them through Belfast Forum
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Poll on July 17, 2015, 06:47:18 PM
Hi Mary, just read your reply to my post, I have not been able to find your pm reply. Where  can I find it? I am new to this forum and find it a bit difficult to navigate.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Mary K. Rossi on July 17, 2015, 09:06:30 PM
You have to login and you will be able to read your messages.  This is what I wrote to you, just in case.

  I recently hear from Agnes O'Neill and her sister Marion through Belfast forum.  Agnes' son goes under the name of Seadog.  You might be able to find him there.  I am Mary Kinsella-Rossi.  I lived at 59 Seaforde St. until I left for the US in 1957.  Marion and Agnes were friends of mine when we were girls.  Their Dad used to give us kids a ride on his lorrie from his house to the corner of Seaforde St. when he was going back to work after he ate lunch.  I have very fond memories of them and also of the Burns' family who lived next door to them.  Did you live on Seaforde?

Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: boxer1949 on March 30, 2016, 05:01:06 PM
https://click.email.vimeo.com/?qs=c7e1b2f0eeef7ba387465904dd8b75ee9bdaf94cd35449d7887ab26ec575c1c211b089afbbee1086c83cde46aa596dff PHOTOS
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BelfastProject on April 03, 2016, 05:25:25 PM
Anyone have recollection of any McConville's from the Short Strand ?
Large family from Hornidge Street.

Thanks,
Jim
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Margana on April 03, 2016, 08:28:31 PM
Anyone have recollection of any McConville's from the Short Strand ?
Large family from Hornidge Street.

Thanks,
Jim

I was born in the Short strand in 1953 and there was no Hornidge Street when I was growing up although I do know where it was located from looking at old maps. Do you remember this street or are you tracing relations from old records?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: BelfastProject on April 03, 2016, 09:58:17 PM
Thank you Margana.
I got the address from old records...census 1901, 1910. Birth certificate 1898.
It was my grandfathers family. He immigrated to the USA in 1920.
I believe Hornidge Street was where the Translink Bus Depot is located.
Is the bus depot still operating ?
Any information you can share would be greatly appreciated.
I'd like to find out when Hornidge Street was abandoned . And then I'll begin my search for relatives.  My grandfather was baptized at St. Matthews .
I was born in 1952. Live in NJ.
Thanks again 😊
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Ollie028 on April 29, 2016, 12:21:55 PM
Anyone any knowledge of Margaret OReilly from Sheriff Street or Pauline ONeill from Seaforde Street .going back to the early 60s
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Margana on April 29, 2016, 01:08:15 PM
Anyone any knowledge of Margaret OReilly from Sheriff Street or Pauline ONeill from Seaforde Street .going back to the early 60s

I knew O'Neills from Seaforde Street (I think Bridie was the mother and I'm guessing that Pauline was a daughter) but my sister would have a better knowledge than me as she's older. I'll be speaking to her in a couple of weeks and I'll ask about Pauline.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Ollie028 on April 30, 2016, 01:39:30 PM
Thank you. Much appreciated
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Margana on May 10, 2016, 06:40:49 PM
I knew O'Neills from Seaforde Street (I think Bridie was the mother and I'm guessing that Pauline was a daughter) but my sister would have a better knowledge than me as she's older. I'll be speaking to her in a couple of weeks and I'll ask about Pauline.

I was speaking to my sister today and she said that there were 3 O'Neill families in Seaforde Street. The one I mentioned above was not the one that you are interested in.
Pauline had a sister Cathy and a brother Eddie. Pauline currently lives in the Downpatrick area.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: ferguspug12 on July 29, 2016, 12:15:48 AM
I lived in the strand back in the 60's until 73 or 74 School was St Matthews on Seaforte St our house was on Vulcan St then we move all the way to sheriff St to my granny  house.I loved it there the people were great was a bit rough but it had to be as we where surrounded on 3 side by 60.000 protestants and the Lagan.So i am very proud of coming from the Short Strand.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Mary K Rossi on July 29, 2016, 02:06:16 PM
My Granny, Florence Mc Namara (Ma Mac) lived at 41 Sheriff St.   Did you know my sister Florence and my cousin, Nora Mc Namara?  Check out Facebook, Friends of the Short Strand Past and Present.  We lived on Seaforde St.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: road hog on October 02, 2016, 08:04:18 PM
Has anyone got a photo of Tommy Sloans filling station that was on the Mountpottinger Rd
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Alaun on October 16, 2016, 04:57:10 AM
Were they called Smiths Crisps
Yes they were Smiths crisps, they were the original crisps. So many times in the pictures I bit into the wee packets of salt.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Jack The Kipper on October 16, 2016, 07:39:40 AM
A couple of times every week for the last few years I  pass on the train waste ground of what I believe is the old Sorocco works, now it is my understanding that there is a cronic shortage of social housing in the Short Strand, that being the case why are there no houses being built on that site, surely it cant be the shortage of money, because just a half mile away there is an area that they threw money at it as if it were confetti, namely the Titanic Quarter....Can some of you good people of the Short Strand enlighten me to what the reason of this situation is?

Bump.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Mary K Rossi on June 02, 2017, 04:24:53 PM
Jim Bell from Seaforde St., please send me an email.  Molly Harper wants to get in touch with you.

Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: A.T on June 04, 2017, 10:44:19 PM
frankie, I totally forgot about Anthony Thompson, there were other Thompsons on the mountpottinger rd as well, Dessie, lived in 99
...

I think that's my uncle

Did Dessie have brothers called Arthur and James ..and sisters called Mary ,Pauline , Brenda , Bernadette ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: A.T on June 04, 2017, 11:04:40 PM
I have traced my family (Keegan) back to the Short Strand in the 1900's and beyond.  My Grt Aunt was Margaret Keegan married to William O'Hara and was living in Vulcan Street in 1911.  My Grt Grandfather (Thomas Keegan) was living with her after she was married.  My Grt Uncle James Keegan lived in Altcar Street, James was Thomas brother.

As I have always seen myself as an Ulster Scot, I am really chuffed to see my background is not what I always thought.  If anyone can help me add to the family history I would be very grteful.

Did your great uncle James marry a Rose lynch by chance ?
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Mary K Rossi on September 01, 2017, 03:02:40 PM
All - Check out "Friends of Short Strand, Past and Present on Facebook.  Lots of memories there.  Also, Belfast Forum has a page on Facebook too.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gilmet on July 15, 2018, 11:58:32 AM
rep1 khartoum st was at the end off middlepath st  and the start off foundry st
at the end of the st there was a large wall keeping people from the railway tracks
.   Hello frank .my name is Gilbert , my grandparents lived in number 9 Khartoum street ,would have any knowledge of this family ( James Carling was my grandfather,I would like to no more about him,I would appreciate any information , thanks Gilbert.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Margana on July 15, 2018, 12:40:30 PM
Gilbert, your grandfather is listed in the 1901 Census at 30 Foundry Street - John, Wife Jane Ann and children Elizabeth, James, Jane Ann, Michael, Thomas, Charles and 5 boarders!
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gilmet on July 15, 2018, 02:37:04 PM
Gilbert, your grandfather is listed in the 1901 Census at 30 Foundry Street - John, Wife Jane Ann and children Elizabeth, James, Jane Ann, Michael, Thomas, Charles and 5 boarders!
.  Margana. Thank you , I can now go a little further .🤔😄
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Gilmet on July 15, 2018, 03:50:19 PM
.  Margana. Thank you , I can now go a little further .
Margana, could you please help me again I can't find the link, Gilbert
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Margana on July 15, 2018, 05:01:17 PM

Go to www.census.nationalarchives.ie and at the top select Search Census
There is a box into which information can be inserted.
Select year as 1901.
Type Carling as Surname.
A list of names will appear. Click on any of the names living at Foundry Street.
A list of the people will appear but not all of the information is here.
Move down the page and you will see Household Return Form A
Click on that and it will show you the original census form.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: Paula2 on April 09, 2019, 11:31:44 AM
:hi: Many thanks Rep, trying to work something out, anyone know off RILEYS Court and the Cranes that come from there in 1911.There was Patrick and his second wife who was 20years his younger, her name was Ethel. His first wife died and i am trying to find out what she died off and what happen to there children (3) sons John,Joseph
and Edward and were did they go???
irish :hi:
Hello, I came across your post (I know it is old) but I know about the woman you're asking about. Her name was Mary McVeigh. She died in June 1899 26 years old. Her husband remarried in 1903 to Ethel Smyth. It seems their son John Crane married and had three children. They had a daughter who died. Hope this is useful.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: MJMAC80 on April 23, 2021, 10:11:03 PM
Dickie McMillan was Hughies father, He was married to Mary McGivern. They lived in No20 Moira St. They had a large family Hughie, Jim, Richard, Geraldine, Pat, Mairead and Marie.
Title: Re: Short Strand. East Belfast
Post by: MJMAC80 on April 23, 2021, 10:16:44 PM
My grandad was Hugh McMillan son of Dickie McMillan my Great grand father and Mary McGivern my great grand mother they lived in ClandeBoyle when my Great granny Mac died in 1983 I think