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Belfast Genealogy / Re: John Joseph Lawlor
« Last post by Bread Basket on Yesterday at 06:52:49 PM »
Thank you so much for your response I greatly appreciate you taking the time. I am very thankful for all the help and advice I can get. Yep definitely round in circles and then you think I have got this but then no something you find makes you think this may not be right so then back to searching and ruling people out!!.  ?  I know that John's wife Rose died shortly after child birth he then went on to re marry.  I didn't know his father Bernard married twice can I ask how you fell upon that please. Was John from his second marriage then? I believe Bernard was married to Anne Magovern so I assumed this was John's Mother. Also other spelling variations of her name I have found. I have also found her name stated as Anne Smith on other children's birth certificates which totally scrambled my brain why this is?! Or is this another person entirely?? So many questions LOL. This is why I am trying to see where I can get access to church records as I believe this may also hold Mother's name and not just the Father's name and occupation so I can go back piece by piece to confirm the correct Friary line

With regards to Church Records.... on this occasion this is a Catholic Family therefore these are the best Online Records.
Iím not sure if PRONI better these!!!!

https://registers.nli.ie/

CMcG is one of the top researchers along with others and Iím sure they will be best to direct you.

Good luck
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Belfast Genealogy / Re: John Joseph Lawlor
« Last post by amck1 on Yesterday at 06:44:42 PM »
Thank you so much for your response I greatly appreciate you taking the time. I am very thankful for all the help and advice I can get. Yep definitely round in circles and then you think I have got this but then no something you find makes you think this may not be right so then back to searching and ruling people out!!.  ?  I know that John's wife Rose died shortly after child birth he then went on to re marry.  I didn't know his father Bernard married twice can I ask how you fell upon that please. Was John from his second marriage then? I believe Bernard was married to Anne Magovern so I assumed this was John's Mother. Also other spelling variations of her name I have found. I have also found her name stated as Anne Smith on other children's birth certificates which totally scrambled my brain why this is?! Or is this another person entirely?? So many questions LOL. This is why I am trying to see where I can get access to church records as I believe this may also hold Mother's name and not just the Father's name and occupation so I can go back piece by piece to confirm the correct Friary line
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Old Belfast Photos / Re: EVERY BLACK & WHITE PHOTO TELLS A STORY
« Last post by Jack The Kipper on Yesterday at 06:12:49 PM »
Don't think the one on the right is destined to see the pearly gates. More likely to encounter a bit of heat. If you believe in that sort of thing, that is.  :D

Look, we all know Gerry wasn't in the IRA and we all know big Ian had no connection whatsoever with loyalist terrorists, so they will be able to cry on each others shoulders down there about the lies that were broadcast about them while they were up here on this mortal earth.
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Belfast Genealogy / Re: John Joseph Lawlor
« Last post by Bread Basket on Yesterday at 03:59:01 PM »
If any of you want to be driven around in circles then the search for this family will send you wacky.

Looks like Johnís Father was Bernard ... a shoemaker ... and then his Grandfather, also a Bernard, a Brouge maker
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1876/11187/8099290.pdf

However, Johnís Father... Bernard as above , this was his second marriage.

Canít be 100% sure but I think this is the death of Bernard the Grandfather

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/23445f20994329?b=https%3A%2F%2Fcivilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie%2Fchurchrecords%2Fcivil-perform-search.jsp%3Fnamefm%3DBernard%26namel%3DFriary%26location%3D%26yyfrom%3D%26yyto%3D%26type%3DD%26submit%3DSearch%26sort%3D%26pageSize%3D100%26century%3D%26decade%3D%26exact%3D%26ddBfrom%3D%26ddMfrom%3D%26ddDfrom%3D%26ddPfrom%3D%26mmBfrom%3D%26mmMfrom%3D%26mmDfrom%3D%26mmPfrom%3D%26yyBfrom%3D%26yyMfrom%3D%26yyDfrom%3D%26yyPfrom%3D%26ddBto%3D%26ddMto%3D%26ddDto%3D%26ddPto%3D%26mmBto%3D%26mmMto%3D%26mmDto%3D%26mmPto%3D%26yyBto%3D%26yyMto%3D%26yyDto%3D%26yyPto%3D%26locationB%3D%26locationM%3D%26locationD%3D%26locationP%3D%26keywordb%3D%26keywordm%3D%26keywordd%3D%26keywordp%3D%26event%3D%26district%3DGranard
Reason for making the original statement in 1st line above.... there are other Friaryís in the same parish and YES YOU GOT MY DRIFT, there is also another  Bernard😳😳😳😳
Another shoemaker 😂😂😂

Anyway, happy searching and I hope the above helps.
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Belfast Genealogy / Re: John Joseph Lawlor
« Last post by Bread Basket on Yesterday at 03:40:27 PM »
I have managed to find a birth certificate for Ellen but the surname is slightly different that being Friary that's why it has taken me a while it states father John a shoemaker and mother as Rose McKeon.  I started off with the name being Friery then Frieary and now to Friary oh the joys of family tree research!! Does anyone know where I can view church transcripts online please or should I contact someone like PRONI for this?  Appreciate any advice  :)

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1883/10951/8002462a.pdf
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Exiles / Oral history project with people who left NI
« Last post by FearghusBrighton on Yesterday at 03:19:51 PM »
Hi everyone,

I'm a researcher at the University of Brighton. I'm currently working on an oral history project being run between the University of Brighton and the University of Manchester, interviewing people who left Northern Ireland for Britain over the last 50 years or so. We're concentrating particularly on people who moved to London, Manchester and Glasgow, although this isn't being adhered to too rigidly.

You should be able to find the project's website if you Google 'Conflict, Memory, Migration', which is what it's called. If you're interested in taking part or know anyone who would be, please send me a message, and I'll forward you the project email address so you can get in touch with someone and arrange an interview.

Finally, I'm happy to try to answer any questions people have about the project on here. Thanks,

Fearghus
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Belfast Genealogy / Re: John Joseph Lawlor
« Last post by amck1 on Yesterday at 02:00:27 PM »
I have managed to find a birth certificate for Ellen but the surname is slightly different that being Friary that's why it has taken me a while it states father John a shoemaker and mother as Rose McKeon.  I started off with the name being Friery then Frieary and now to Friary oh the joys of family tree research!! Does anyone know where I can view church transcripts online please or should I contact someone like PRONI for this?  Appreciate any advice  :)
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Belfast Chat / Re: GAA DEMAND £100M FOR REBUILDING OF CASEMENT PARK
« Last post by jillyfred on Yesterday at 01:00:12 PM »
Ravenhill,Windsor Park etcetera and now Casement Park.

What about Horseracing?

For many years the two Racecourses in Northern Ireland have had meetings with Government asking for assistance -but never a penny.
This is an absolute disgrace IMHO.

Furthermore,on one occasion the local South Down M.P. Chris Hazzard was due to attend a Meeting at Downpatrick Racecourse and ten minutes before the Meeting was due to start an Office Girl phoned to say he would not be attending.

The Racecourse Board -who are all voluntary people-who had made time from their own commitments to be present were to say the least awarded an insult from this person.
He never contacted them to apologise nor to arrange a future date.
Says it all really.

Horseracing and Point to Points are non-divisive-the one sport that embraces a sporting public the length and breadth of Ireland.

Why no money for this?

IMHO as always.

jilly

PS If these Racecourses have to do it all alone-then to my mind-so should football,rugby and the GAA and all other sports.

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Hi, would you look for these three people, I cannot find where these, my gt grandparents are buried !. thank you for your generosity .
Joseph Hamilton 10th January 1926
Joseph Mc Cloud around November 1923
Theressa Mc Cloud about 1906 .
Again thanks in anticipation Regards Hilary
https://dof.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=8019.9593

Still searching for the other 2
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Belfast Chat / Re: Rising violence and demonic activity.
« Last post by TS77 on Yesterday at 12:03:22 PM »
I happened to be in the Crumlin Rd 24 hour garage an hour ago, beside the Crumlin Road Jail.
I encourage anyone to park outside or go in, and simply observe late at night, to get an understanding of the serious depth to which society is falling.
A dark dark hole.
Off the at least 20 people within, I came to the conclusion at least 50% where on heavy drugs. 20% intoxicated with alcohol, and 30% sheepishly quiet and wanting to make a purchase and get out as quick as possible.
This a Monday night too....
Lots of cursing, loud voices, and people not caring much for their appearance.
Especially young women.
So so sad.
Its as if they have lost their souls, an emptiness, and a non care attitude to their health are well being.
Something like from a zombie movie.
So so sad.
There is a sickness in society.. and im not sure the Police or Stormont is in a position to cure it.
Its actually scary.
Its simply demonic, without God we are lost.
This is the same kind of lost world I see in and around London all the time - but the point is well made.
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