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Title: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: QS on October 01, 2009, 01:01:50 AM
Hi Everyone

I am trying to put together a list of Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers and their enlistment dates.

For example I have 3 relatives of mine:

Enlisted 03/01/1928 - 6976124 Fusilier John Patterson

Enlisted 17/10/1933 - 6977491 Fusilier Patrick Smith

Enlisted 20/10/1937 - 6978937 Fusilier Alexander Hegarty

If anyone could help add to my list it would be very much appreciated.

Regards

QS
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: scotmum on October 01, 2009, 09:11:41 PM
what end purpose do you have. .a searchable database or similar?
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Giannineo on October 01, 2009, 09:25:38 PM
JAMES COPELAND OF NEWRY.
 36TH, ULSTER DIVISION, BATTLE OF THE SOMME.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: QS on October 01, 2009, 11:44:03 PM
what end purpose do you have. .a searchable database or similar?

Yeah, something like a database/spreadsheet. As you can see I listed some relatives of mine. It would be nice to know how long their comrades served by looking at their numbers. This is not for profit or gain, just my own knowledge. Of course I would be happy to do look ups for others when complete.

Regards

Conor
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: scotmum on October 02, 2009, 09:17:16 AM
 .have you considered approaching the following (perhaps they would be happy for someone to take on such a task as putting together a database and be willing to work with you)? I have found them to be helpful in the past:

    RESEARCH ENQUIRIES SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO: 

    The Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers Regimental Museum
    The Castle
    Enniskillen
    Co. Fermanagh
    Northern Ireland
    BT74 7HL

    Tel: + 44 (0) 28 6632 3142   
    Fax: + 44 (0) 28 6632 0359
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: delane on October 07, 2009, 01:15:57 PM
hi,QS,... i did some research some time ago, there was 3,john mullan,s in this regiment in the 2nd boer war,1899-1901..2,died of there wounds,..there was one left,john mullan private 6496.. my ggfather with the same name served in the boer war,2nd..i did get in touch with,[Enniskillen castle museum] for info on this soldier,..all info will be at [KEW] london,...if at all you find some details could you please let me know,..nobody in our family circle, know,s any history of our grandfathers history, in the boer war,...thanks again,...regards,...delane...
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: irisharab on October 12, 2009, 05:04:02 PM
Hello QS
my father served in the skins from around 1946-1950 in malaya and singapore im in the process of sending of a SAR form to the MOD to get his service record my only stumbling block is i dont know his service number hope they can help .
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: QS on October 13, 2009, 08:52:27 PM
.have you considered approaching the following (perhaps they would be happy for someone to take on such a task as putting together a database and be willing to work with you)? I have found them to be helpful in the past:

    RESEARCH ENQUIRIES SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO: 

    The Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers Regimental Museum
    The Castle
    Enniskillen
    Co. Fermanagh
    Northern Ireland
    BT74 7HL

    Tel: + 44 (0) 28 6632 3142   
    Fax: + 44 (0) 28 6632 0359

Hi Scotmum, I have been in touch with the museum but they will not give out this information in bulk. They are very helpful with personal requests though and thats how I got the info on my relatives above.

Regards

Conor
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: QS on October 13, 2009, 08:55:38 PM
hi,QS,... i did some research some time ago, there was 3,john mullan,s in this regiment in the 2nd boer war,1899-1901..2,died of there wounds,..there was one left,john mullan private 6496.. my ggfather with the same name served in the boer war,2nd..i did get in touch with,[Enniskillen castle museum] for info on this soldier,..all info will be at [KEW] london,...if at all you find some details could you please let me know,..nobody in our family circle, know,s any history of our grandfathers history, in the boer war,...thanks again,...regards,...delane...

Hi Delene, Are you saying that your Great Grandfather is Private 6496 John Mullan of the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers? If you confirm this I know some people who I could ask for info, thats if you'd like? I dont know anthing myself as its not a period I have a great interest in.

Regards

Conor
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: QS on October 13, 2009, 09:00:30 PM
Hello QS
my father served in the skins from around 1946-1950 in malaya and singapore im in the process of sending of a SAR form to the MOD to get his service record my only stumbling block is i dont know his service number hope they can help .

Hi, If you contact the Museum at the following address they should be able to provide you with the number.

[email protected]

They have been very helpful to me in the past. The only thing I could add personally was that he was 1st Battalion.

Regards

Conor
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: charles w on October 15, 2009, 12:41:11 AM
If anyone is intending to visit Kew it is a short rail journey from Heathrow.  The archieves are a short walk from the railway station.  I went there, as my grandfather was in the skins.  On seeing his record I was sorry I did so. 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: delane on October 15, 2009, 03:23:26 PM
hello,QS,,...PLEASE ask your friends if they could find any info,...i have my ggfathers marriage cert,... i have tried many times for info..i did go to[kew] to look at the wo97,boxs, [discharge-papers, with no luck...if this is my ggfather who served in this regiment..john mullan private6496 1st battalion.....if you need any more info please give me a bell,ok...nice one...regards,...delane...
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Quigs on November 25, 2009, 11:58:35 PM
I'm sorry I don't know the regiment yet.  They were called the Skins or Skinners
My grandfather, Patrick Quigley of Derry

I would love to find out where he served.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: speedwobble on November 27, 2009, 08:14:29 PM
I would love to find out about my Great Grandfather who served in the regiment.  His name was James William Galbraith and as far as I know he was a soldier before the outbreak of WW1 and survived the war.  My mum says he suffered from shrapnel wounds for the rest of his life.

After the war he was a member of the RIC and served in Kilkeel but was also stationed at various other barracks ending up as a sergeant.

I would be very grateful if anyone could help me find out any more information.

Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: acheux_rifleman on November 27, 2009, 09:27:12 PM
I'm sorry I don't know the regiment yet.  They were called the Skins or Skinners
My grandfather, Patrick Quigley of Derry

I would love to find out where he served.

Hi Quigs...

Only two men of that name served with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers in the Great War.

20963, Pte Patrick Quigley, R Innisk Fus - later served as T/422317, Pte Patrick Quigley, Army Service Corps.

The other, 7/28605, Pte Patrick Quigley, 7th (Service) Battalion, Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers. He subsequently served with the Labour Corps as 383747, Pte P. Quigley and then as GS/108953, Pte P. Quigley, Royal Fusiliers.

There is a book called 'Three Cheers for the Derrys' - all about the 10th Inniskilling Fusiliers in the Great War. As the name indicates, they recruited for that Battalion from Derry. I have a copy, but not to hand, so will check and get back to you.

Personally I think the first one is your man - the 7th Battalion was raised in Omagh.

Will get back to you.

Best Wishes,

A.R.

Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maggiemay on November 29, 2009, 07:00:22 PM
Just found out recently that my Great grandfather.John McGuigan was in the Fusilers.He lived in 31  Bow Street.Apparantely his was the 1st military funeral to go up the Falls Road.My cousin got the information from the records and also an account of his funeral from the Irish News.All these years ago and we're only finding this out now!.Apparantely he was wounded and died in a Military in Derry.would anyone have any idea where,in Derry yhis hospital was?
Maggie
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: acheux_rifleman on November 29, 2009, 10:03:47 PM
Hi there Maggie.

There's a good chance that your Great Grandfather may have died as the result of an accident or during training. I see that he died in October 1915 whilst serving with the 3rd Battalion, Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers.

At that time, the 3rd Battalion, which was formed in August 1914 as a Reserve Battalion, had been moved to Derry from Lough Swilly. Up to that point, they hadn't seen any overseas service.

It may be an idea to check the date of his death in the Belfast Telegraph around that date - this can be accessed at the Newspaper Library at the back of the Central Library in Belfast. If you don't have access, I can have a look next time I'm down.

Lest We Forget.

A.R.

Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: speedwobble on November 30, 2009, 09:10:15 PM
Just wheedled a bit of information from my mum about my Great Grandfather.  I always though he had fought in France but it seems it was the Dardanelles.  My mum says he always talked about how cruel the Turks were.

Everyone knows the ANZACS fought at Gallipoli but I had no idea the Skins were in the Dardanelles as well.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maggiemay on November 30, 2009, 09:43:35 PM
Thanks,acheaux-rifleman,for your reply.
I find it strange that we're only finding this out now.My cousin got the newspaper report of the funeral.We didn't know anything about this.He's buried in Milltown with members ao the familt.My cousin had a man from the War Graves Commission out to the grave and they are going to put a plaque on the grave.I find this fascinating.
Maggie
 
 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maggiemay on November 30, 2009, 09:45:52 PM
By the way ,acheaux-rifleman
Johns son ,Henry was killed in the Dardinelles
Maggie
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Lucybella on December 03, 2009, 11:11:59 AM
I have found two (maybe three) relatives in the Iniskilling Fus.  James Rodgers No 10076 died in Gallipoli 1915.  I think he was a soldier before the war as it states that as occupation on his marriage cert to Catherine McGivern in 1912.
Also a brother Thomas, R Innis Fus 25010 who survived the war, and maybe a brother called William. There are many of that name so cannot sort out which may be a medal card for William. 
Lucy
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Rosemary Joan on December 03, 2009, 02:59:48 PM
Dear Achieux
I have this record - WWI
Bannister, David J.
R,Innis.Fus.  Reg. No. 32696
(medal card)
My Uncle.
Any other info??
RosemaryJoan
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: speedwobble on December 24, 2009, 10:08:47 AM
Have this for my Great Grandfather.
 
Galbraith, William James
3rd Btn Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
Regiment No 8400
Joined October 1905
Left 1917 after serving his 12 years
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: speedwobble on December 29, 2009, 12:41:00 AM
Sorry after research I need to ammend the details.

!st Batn Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
Join Date October 1903

He left after having served nearly 14 years.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maggiemay on December 29, 2009, 06:28:16 PM
Hi Acheux-Rifleman
Thanks for your reply regarding my great grandfather. Do you think that he was a soldier before the war broke out.He was51 when he died.I'm amazed by all of this .My Mother never mentioned this,
Maggie
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maggiemay on December 29, 2009, 07:51:47 PM
Just checking AR
my great grandfather was buried on 6/10/1915.Quite an impressive write up about him in the Irish News.Will check Tele and the other papers tomorrow.Do you think that he was a regular soldier ?
Maggie
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Elsa-Mary on February 12, 2010, 06:33:59 PM
Hello,from Jaen in Spain :smile:

I have recently discovered my grandfather Alexander Robinson is mentioned on the Tyrone Presbyterian Rolls,and was in the RIF.
Apart from that info , and later in Police Force little else apart from marriage / death  certs.
I see that there is a telephone no for Rif given in postings,would I be able to find any more info on him?????--BEARING in mind,I have been unable to pin down his correct birth year,it states 60 yrs old on death cert IN 1958 -BUTthere seems to be no Alexander Robinson born 1898 that is illegitamate,the only one I found born 1896. seems to have a married mother on the 1911 census.
Thanking You
Elsa-Mary
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: chevron on February 12, 2010, 09:05:52 PM
My G.Uncle William McNally Belfast served in the Royal Irish Rifles # 9870 Warrant Officer Class 2. Transfered to Royal Inniskilling Fusilliers 9th BN Feb.1918 # 42668 same rank awarded Millitary Medal 1919 France. Dischared after the war went to Wales to work and died there in 19th June 1979 at Hollwell Hospital.I got this information from the Royal Ulster Rifles Museum Library Waring Bfs. BT1 2EW also the battles he was in in France including Map's and discriptions.
chevron 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: sasha on February 12, 2010, 09:27:06 PM
MY LATE FATHER SERVED WITH THE SKINS  1938/1945. served in india.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Giannineo on February 12, 2010, 10:26:32 PM
my grand uncle John Copeland from Newry served with the Inniskillings at the Somme
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: jackryan on February 18, 2010, 04:04:47 PM
MY GREAT GRANDFATHER JOHN McCAFFREY FROM BROOKE TERRACE ENNISKILLEN JOINED UP IN SEPTEMBER 1914 WITH THE 11TH INNISKILLING FUSILIERS UNDER MAJOR SIR CHARLES FALLS HE SERVED UNTIL THE END OF THE WAR. JOHN WAS BORN IN 1864 AND IS BELIEVED TO HAVE SERVED IN THE UNITED STATES NAVY OR MARINES THEN ENLISTED IN THE INNISKILLINGS AT THE START OF THE WAR. HE DIED ON THE 11TH NOVEMBER 1931 WHILST LAYING A WREATH AT THE WAR MEMORIAL IN ENNISKILLEN. IS THERE ANY WAY SOMEONE COULD HELP ME FIND HIS MILITARY SERVICE I HAVE NOTICED SOMEPNE CALLED ACHEUX-RIFLEMAN ON HERE WHO SEEMS TO HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE IN RESERCH.

JACK
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: wpooh1962 on March 27, 2010, 08:37:37 PM
I believe my gg grandfather William Coulson served in the 2nd or 3rd Royal Innisklilling Fusiliers. If anyone has any information on William I would be very grateful. I think his regimment number was 27398 and died in 1916 in City & Co Infirmary Derry.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: bobdenn on March 27, 2010, 11:03:29 PM
I believe my gg grandfather William Coulson served in the 2nd or 3rd Royal Innisklilling Fusiliers. If anyone has any information on William I would be very grateful. I think his regimment number was 27398 and died in 1916 in City & Co Infirmary Derry.

wpooh1962,
 
I have sent you a message.
 
BD
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: delane on March 29, 2010, 01:08:47 PM
Hi Delene, Are you saying that your Great Grandfather is Private 6496 John Mullan of the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers? If you confirm this I know some people who I could ask for info, thats if you'd like? I dont know anthing myself as its not a period I have a great interest in.

Regards

Conor
hello,there,..QS..did you ask your mates,if they had info on this trooper,..from the 2nd boer war..1899-1902. i am at a lost to find info on john mullan.private 6494. this could be my ggfather, if you need any more info please let me know ..regards..delane..
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: geordy on April 07, 2010, 01:05:23 PM
My Grandfather George Magee served with the Inniskillings in Salonika,Dardenells etc he came from Francis St of Smithfield at the time according to the 1911 census.I contaced the Inniskilling  HQs in Fermanagh via the Castle looking for info on his war service etc I got nowhere.Can anyone help me find out about his army details,Thanks a lot
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: chevron on April 07, 2010, 02:52:59 PM
Hi Geordy. See my posting re R.I.F. I got a lot of help from warning street photogrphs and battles my uncle was involved in.  you can give them a try.
chevron
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: geordy on April 07, 2010, 03:23:53 PM
Hi CHevron I was in Waring St last year and asked the questions but more specificaly about my Grandfathers personal war details ie rank how long he served etc.They told me try the Castle, Enniskillen I did nothing.Im living in the US .I may get back this year agin but I thought there might be something I could do in the mean time.Thank you very much for your suggestions.Take care have a great day in Belfast
Hi Geordy. See my posting re R.I.F. I got a lot of help from warning street photogrphs and battles my uncle was involved in.  you can give them a try.
chevron
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: chevron on April 07, 2010, 03:31:19 PM
Hi Geody. thanks for the reply. actually i'm in Canada not Belfast.chevron
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: geordy on April 07, 2010, 07:04:29 PM
Good for you Chevron.Im in Syracuse NY a couple of hours away.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: loobyloo2 on April 13, 2010, 04:11:20 PM
Hi,
My Great Uncle William James Boal served in the 9th Battalion Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers, as a signaller in WW1, he was mentioned in despatches, and recieved a DCM for his contribution as a signaller whilst serving in St Quentin 1919. He was with the battalion since 1915.
He then signed up in WW2, but age was against him , so ended up as a pilot with the RNVR, Fleet Air Arm, Worthy Down, where he lost his life age 47 in 1942 in an air collision as a pilot instructor.
There is I believe a memorial to him at Draperstown-St Columba, Church of Ireland Churchyard, Londonderry.
 
I know he was married to a Margaret Sarah (a.k.a. Daisy) of Tobemore, and probably had children, would love to find this out, not in Ireland and had no joy searching online.
 
Am pretty sure the Boal side of the family came from Dromore, his father was Robert Boal, also army,served in Gibralter, Egypt, Malta, South Africa, WW1. Hah, tried to join up in WW2 but they wouldn't have him, far too old, but he eventually lived to the ripe old age of 95 and died in Belfast in 1961.
 
Anyone have any links?
Thanks
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: bobdenn on April 13, 2010, 08:40:56 PM
Hi,
My Great Uncle William James Boal served in the 9th Battalion Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers, as a signaller in WW1, he was mentioned in despatches, and recieved a DCM for his contribution as a signaller whilst serving in St Quentin 1919. He was with the battalion since 1915.
He then signed up in WW2, but age was against him , so ended up as a pilot with the RNVR, Fleet Air Arm, Worthy Down, where he lost his life age 47 in 1942 in an air collision as a pilot instructor.
There is I believe a memorial to him at Draperstown-St Columba, Church of Ireland Churchyard, Londonderry.
 
I know he was married to a Margaret Sarah (a.k.a. Daisy) of Tobemore, and probably had children, would love to find this out, not in Ireland and had no joy searching online.
 
Am pretty sure the Boal side of the family came from Dromore, his father was Robert Boal, also army,served in Gibralter, Egypt, Malta, South Africa, WW1. Hah, tried to join up in WW2 but they wouldn't have him, far too old, but he eventually lived to the ripe old age of 95 and died in Belfast in 1961.
 
Anyone have any links?
Thanks

 
Loobyloo,
 
Check this link. It would seem to confirm what you already know.  Check about half way down.
 
BD
 
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:V5MI_xW86dkJ:pipl.com/directory/name/Boal/William+%22boal%22+%22Draperstown%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:V5MI_xW86dkJ:pipl.com/directory/name/Boal/William+%22boal%22+%22Draperstown%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: loobyloo2 on April 13, 2010, 09:06:40 PM
Thanks BD
 
I am new to all of this searching for relatives, finding it quite difficult to trace any of them except those that served in the army!
So, anyone who has Robert Boal , William James Boal or Robert Victor Boal in their trees, give me a shout.
Know they lived in Lurgan in the 1911 census.
Thanks
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: bobdenn on April 13, 2010, 09:23:01 PM
Loobyloo,
 
This is St. Columba's (CoI) Draperstown...
 
(http://i42.tinypic.com/16k2xvk.jpg)
 
 
and he is also remembered here:
 
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:J9-wNIe29HwJ:www.unithistories.com/officers/RNVR_officersB2.html+Saint+columba+church+of+ireland+draperstown+%22boal%22&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:J9-wNIe29HwJ:www.unithistories.com/officers/RNVR_officersB2.html+Saint+columba+church+of+ireland+draperstown+%22boal%22&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: bobdenn on April 13, 2010, 09:34:03 PM
And here is a photo of his memorial stone.  A better photo can be purchased at this site:
 
http://www.twgpp.org/information.php?id=1046361 (http://www.twgpp.org/information.php?id=1046361)
 
 
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2iqg5fl.jpg)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: OTTO on April 13, 2010, 09:34:38 PM
Thanks BD
 
I am new to all of this searching for relatives, finding it quite difficult to trace any of them except those that served in the army!
So, anyone who has Robert Boal , William James Boal or Robert Victor Boal in their trees, give me a shout.
Know they lived in Lurgan in the 1911 census.
Thanks

Loobyloo,
You may already know this : Robert Victor Boal married Isabella Evelyn Hull in Waringstown Church of Ireland 8th August 1919. Robert Victor's father was Robert and Isabella Evelyn's was Thomas.
 
OTTO
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: loobyloo2 on April 13, 2010, 09:39:32 PM
OTTO
 
Thankyou sooooo much, NO, I didn't know that, I was just researching him, but know nothing except that he was born 1896 and was possibly a Manager at the @Labour Exchange' in Magherafelt (sp).
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: loobyloo2 on April 13, 2010, 09:44:33 PM
And here is a photo of his memorial stone.  A better photo can be purchased at this site:
 
http://www.twgpp.org/information.php?id=1046361 (http://www.twgpp.org/information.php?id=1046361)
 
 
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2iqg5fl.jpg)
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BD,
You are a STAR, thankyou.
I must plan to visit Belfast this year, was there last November(loved it, way exceeded my expectations)
 to meet with 3 Aunts, one sadly passed away just this Good Friday :(
They are the nieces of the above.
 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: wpooh1962 on April 14, 2010, 09:45:40 PM
I would like to say a heartfelt thank you to this forum particularly bobdenn who has helped me with my search for my ggrandfather.

Thank you

Marion
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: bobdenn on April 14, 2010, 10:00:04 PM
I would like to say a heartfelt thank you to this forum particularly bobdenn who has helped me with my search for my ggrandfather.

Thank you

Marion

 
 :hi:   ;)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: derb4u on April 14, 2010, 10:44:15 PM
(http://i41.tinypic.com/j9nbq8.jpg) can anyone help me with any info on my grandfather. he was called peter quinn and he served with the royal enniskilling fusilliers during the first world war. he was awarded medals  for gallentry. this is all i know about him .
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: wpooh1962 on April 16, 2010, 06:29:55 PM
Have you tried contacting The Inniskilling Museum, The Castle, Enniskillen, Co Fermangh, NI BT74 7HL.
Do you know where or when he was born?

Marion
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on April 16, 2010, 08:53:56 PM
derb4u (http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=6757) could this be him
 British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
about Peter Quinn
Name:Peter QuinnEstimated birth year:abt 1872Age at Enlistment:24Birth Parish:IrvinestownBirth County:Co FermanaghDocument Year:1896Regimental Number:1436Regiment Name:Bn Royal Inniskilling FusiliersNumber of Images:11
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: garmoyle on April 17, 2010, 08:10:02 AM
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My Grandfather
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: garmoyle on April 17, 2010, 08:13:51 AM
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This was taken in a field hospital.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: derb4u on April 17, 2010, 08:53:30 AM
Thank you for your help unfortunately i dont have any info at all on him as he had died long before i was born. All my relatives on my mothers side have all passed as she has. all i know is peter quinn married my granny (matilda mc collough nee noble, she was presbyterian from portadown) after they had both been widowed. i will follow up on monday to delve further into the info you gave me many thanks derb4u.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: bobdenn on April 17, 2010, 11:27:55 AM
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My Grandfather

Garmoyle,
 
Can you give details of your grandfather and did he survive the war?
 
BD
 
 :smile:
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: garmoyle on April 17, 2010, 12:19:06 PM

Garmoyle,
 
Can you give details of your grandfather and did he survive the war?
 
BD
 
 :smile:

He fought with the Inniskillings and was wounded but survived.  Died 1969.
The photo in the hospital shows him and other wounded soldiers.  Found out recently that the tunics they are wearing were given to all wounded soldiers who were being sent home so people would understand and not hand them a white flower![/size]
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: garmoyle on April 17, 2010, 12:27:06 PM
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Quote

Another of him
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on April 17, 2010, 03:22:34 PM
Garmoyle what was your grandfather's name?
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: garmoyle on April 17, 2010, 03:33:56 PM
Garmoyle what was your grandfather's name?
Joseph Meehan
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on April 17, 2010, 04:14:42 PM
Garmoyle do you know when & where your grandfather was born, as I found 4 medal card index's for a Joseph Meehan in the Inniskilling Fusiler's
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: garmoyle on April 17, 2010, 06:41:48 PM
Garmoyle do you know when & where your grandfather was born, as I found 4 medal card index's for a Joseph Meehan in the Inniskilling Fusiler's
I'll get his birth address from my mother tomorrow.  I would like to get copies of his medals as the originals have gone missing. Thanks for all your help Maura.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Sean T Traynor on April 18, 2010, 06:01:12 AM
My grandfather Patrick Traynor of Greenfields, Portglenone served with The Skins from 1919 to 1924, saw overseas service in Iraq and India. De mobbed on reduction of establishment.
Re enlisted into Royal Pioneer Corps 1941 and was lost in Borneo, November 1942.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: garmoyle on April 19, 2010, 10:23:36 AM
Garmoyle do you know when & where your grandfather was born, as I found 4 medal card index's for a Joseph Meehan in the Inniskilling Fusiler's
Maura, do you have a Joseph Meehan from Strabane?
G
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on April 19, 2010, 11:54:14 AM
Sorry Garmoyle nothing coming up for a Joseph Meehan born in Co Tyrone.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: garmoyle on April 20, 2010, 09:32:05 AM
Sorry Garmoyle nothing coming up for a Joseph Meehan born in Co Tyrone.
You've been very good Maura and thanks.
I'm getting more information from distant relatives who remember that he was also with another regiment, possibly the the Rifles.  This could be when he earned his medals.
G
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: delane on April 20, 2010, 01:19:10 PM
hi,maura..is there any john mullan,s in this regiment.??..do you know of...the one i am looking for was born in dublin-city, & lived in belfast in 1898, in the dock-ward area..i keep searching & only this one comes to mind ..john mullan 6496,private..was in the 2nd boer war [1899-1902].. help needed badly...regards,...delane..
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on April 20, 2010, 04:37:03 PM
Sorry Delaney nothing coming up in any service records for a John Mullan born Dublin. The John Mullan 6497 was born in Dublin 1865 , but too early for your man.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: delane on April 20, 2010, 08:05:52 PM
thanks, maura, for your help..my john mullan was born in late 1870,s..it states on his marriage cert he was 22,in 1898.. on the 1911.census born [dublin-city].. i do have both his parents, names,...& his wifes. yet i cannot find any record of his service in the wars..2nd boer war..my father saw a foto of john mullan at the city-hall his cap on & his medals..from a news paper he carried in his coat... does, private 6496 1st battalion john mullan,.give any info of his next of kin.. if you find any info maura could you please let me know ,..many thanks....regards...delane..
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on April 21, 2010, 10:36:19 AM
Delane the one I found father's a John but his regiment was Commissarial transpt regiment number 6497, birth parish Werburgh Dublin, document year 1885 and he was 20 year's old when he enlisted, making his birth abt 1865. I can't even find my own grandfather's record's, alot of the records were destroyed in the Blitz's ww2. Some say 60% other say 40% of them were destroyed.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: delane on April 21, 2010, 07:05:47 PM
nice 1..maura for trying to help me..i did go to KEW in london to search for his service records in boxs. [WO97].. i do know he was in an irish regiment, one of 7,from n,ireland in the 2nd boer war.. maybe this is just a lost cause??...maybe in time we will see what the 1901,census says, where john mullan was in that time spell...my father did say he saw a foto, it could of been the 50th Aniversity of the boer war 2nd in 1952..in an irish paper..as my dad was only a kid then??..some thing will turn up some day of some news heres, wishing....thank you so much maura....all the best...delane..
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: rusty on April 24, 2010, 07:40:58 PM
my uncle was james humphrey private 19796 royal inniskilling fusiliers and served in france. he died on 31/7/1918 in france .i don't know if he died of his wounds or if he was killed in action. does anyone know how i could find this out , i know he is buried in mont noir military cemetery in st-jans cappell.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on April 25, 2010, 08:07:18 PM
Name James Humphrey
Birth place Whirehouse, Co. Tyronne
Resident Castlederg
Death date 31/7/1918
Rank private
Regiment royal irish fusilers
Battalion  9th Battalion
Number 19796
Type of casualty Killed in action
Threatre of war Aldershot
 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: rusty on April 25, 2010, 10:11:07 PM
Thank-you so much Maura, your help is really appreciated. Your a wee star.    :smile: :smile:
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: delane on April 26, 2010, 01:04:38 PM
hi maura, this may just be a shot in the dark, my ggfather john mullan, who served in an irish regiment some time in the 2nd boer war. on his marriage cert in 1898..his father profession was a captain?.[deseased] age approx 38-40...can you see were i am going maura..i cannot find any info on my ggfather were i may find info on his father also called [john mullan]  i keep trying!!...regards...delane..
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on April 27, 2010, 12:25:28 PM
Sorry Delane but there's far too many John Mullan's born in Ireland, and nothing for a captain.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: delane on April 27, 2010, 12:38:35 PM
thank you maura..for trying ...there are to many with the same name.. cheers,...delane.. ps [sea-captain]
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: billymac on May 28, 2010, 01:50:59 PM
A great- uncle of mine joined the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers and died of wounds in The Battle of Colenso near the Tugela River, Natal, Boer War, 1899.
For this war, he was called up from the reserve list, having previously served in the regiment.
Enlisted: 18th Mar. 1889; Service number: 2857; Name: Fusilier James McQuillan; Died 16th Dec. 1899.
Hope this is helpful.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: bobdenn on May 28, 2010, 02:20:30 PM
A great- uncle of mine joined the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers and died of wounds in The Battle of Colenso near the Tugela River, Natal, Boer War, 1899.
For this war, he was called up from the reserve list, having previously served in the regiment.
Enlisted: 18th Mar. 1889; Service number: 2857; Name: Fusilier James McQuillan; Died 16th Dec. 1899.
Hope this is helpful.

 
Hi Billymac and welcome to the Forum.
 
Your great uncle is listed in the S.A. Roll of Honour.
 
Link:- http://www.justdone.co.za/ROH/main.php?page=List_People&UnitAbv=Reg49 (http://www.justdone.co.za/ROH/main.php?page=List_People&UnitAbv=Reg49)
 
You need to scroll down.  You will notice that all the 'Skins deaths are down as the year 1900.
 
If you click on his name you will see what info they have on him.  They are keen to add information all the time.
 
Good Luck
 
Bob
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: billymac on May 29, 2010, 10:59:47 AM

 
Hi Billymac and welcome to the Forum.
 
Your great uncle is listed in the S.A. Roll of Honour.
 
Link:- http://www.justdone.co.za/ROH/main.php?page=List_People&UnitAbv=Reg49 (http://www.justdone.co.za/ROH/main.php?page=List_People&UnitAbv=Reg49)
 
You need to scroll down.  You will notice that all the 'Skins deaths are down as the year 1900.
 
If you click on his name you will see what info they have on him.  They are keen to add information all the time.
 
Good Luck
 
Bob

Greetings Bobdenn,
 
Thanks a lot for your help there.
 
Billy
 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: anamcara01 on May 29, 2010, 11:22:50 AM
hi i am looking for a cap badge for the royal inniskilling fusiliers for a ww1 and ww2 display to commerate fallen soldiers would appreciate help in this
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Mikeg on July 22, 2010, 04:06:57 PM
My Grandfather served with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers and is buried in Chatby Military Cemetery in Alexandria.  He was Private Edward Greenan Service number 18431 and died 31 August 1915.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on July 22, 2010, 07:17:49 PM
Name:  Edward Greenan
Birth place: Milltown Co Monaghan
Death date: 31st August 1915
Death location: Gallipoli
Enlistment location: Edinburgh
Rank: Private
Regiment: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
Battalion: 1st Battallion
Number: 18431
Type of casualty: Died from wounds
Theatre of war: Balkan Theatre
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Mikeg on July 22, 2010, 07:52:24 PM
Thank you Maura. I have written to the RIF Museum to see if I can find any more details but I really do appreciate this information. My late father visited Edward's grave during WW2. It was the first my Mother knew of where he was as he said in a letter telegram, which was all they were allowed, that he had been to see "Ned". I will go to Milltown next year and try to find out more about him. He is commemorated on a brass plate in St Patrick's RC church in Edinburgh. His sons all except Jack, who went to America all fought in WW2. My father was commissioned in the Royal Engineers and later I served with the Royal Scots Greys.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: bobdenn on July 22, 2010, 11:02:00 PM
My Grandfather served with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers and is buried in Chatby Military Cemetery in Alexandria.  He was Private Edward Greenan Service number 18431 and died 31 August 1915.

Mikeg,
 
You can leave some flowers and a note for him at this website.
 
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=greenan&GSbyrel=in&GSdy=1915&GSdyrel=in&GSob=n&GRid=12073668 (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=greenan&GSbyrel=in&GSdy=1915&GSdyrel=in&GSob=n&GRid=12073668)&
 
 
and he is remembered here on the Commonwealth War Graves Site:-
 
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=108900 (http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=108900)
 
 
 
And here is information about the cemetery from the same site:-
 
http://www.cwgc.org/search/cemetery_details.aspx?cemetery=10702&mode=1 (http://www.cwgc.org/search/cemetery_details.aspx?cemetery=10702&mode=1)
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Post by: Mikeg on July 23, 2010, 09:50:09 AM
Thanks Bobden. regards, Mikeg.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: geordy on August 10, 2010, 02:56:05 AM
My Grandfather George Magee served with the Inniskilling in World War 1.He served in Salonkia,the Dardenelles and India.At the time his home was Francis St ,Belfast.He had a wife and two children.His wifes name was Margaret and the children were Hanna and Margaret.He had a war pension.Can anyone please tell me how to go about getting his war records and details.Thank you
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: paddyg001 on September 12, 2010, 12:45:27 PM
Hi i am trying to find out information about my Grandfather who served with the Inniskillings during WW2. He never really spoke of it much but from speaking to other relatives i know he served in Burma. He was born in Dungannon but lied about his age to join up so not sure of his "dob". He survived the War and worked as a postman in Omagh until he retired.
I would be greatful for any info or anything that will help me find out more about him.
Thanks
Paddy.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: ontheboats on September 12, 2010, 04:15:39 PM
I think my Mom had a first or second cousin , called John Carling who served in the Inniskillings . She told me he was wounded during the retreat from Dunkirk . He probaly came from around the Dungiven area. She also had a cousin who went down on HMS  Hood.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: geordy on September 12, 2010, 04:21:35 PM
Sorry Delane but there's far too many John Mullan's born in Ireland, and nothing for a captain.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Kerry44 on October 08, 2010, 12:51:35 PM
A grand uncle - James Pritchard - served in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers during WW1.  His regimental number was 3525 and he evidently reached the rank of Sergeant.  I am told that he was gassed while in the trenches and suffered ill-health thereafter.  I have been unable to trace his service records to date, and would like to find out more about his army service. Any hints as to where to look?
 
Thanks,
 
Kerry
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: parker on October 11, 2010, 07:48:58 PM
hi all.looking any extra info on a great uncle who served wiyh the royal inniskillen fusiliers,
 
 Casualty Details
Name: HEWITT, JOHN
Initials: John. r
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lance Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Service No: 12760
Unit Text: 6th Bn.
Age: 26
Date of Death: 08/11/1918
Service No: 12760
Additional information: Son of Alfred V. and Margaret Hewitt (nee Kidd), of Moira, Co. Down. Also served at Gallipoli, Salonika, Egypt and Palestine.  before he DoW in France on the 8.11.18 age 26. Buried in Premont British Cemetery, Aisne, France, plot 2, row C, grave 17,
 
thank you.parker
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Skinsgrandson on November 27, 2010, 02:50:00 PM
Hey I'm looking for more information on my great grandfather who served with the skins.

Robert Bogle Born Castlederg, Co Tyrone 18/6/1897

Royal Inniskilling Regiment 12Btn. This is all the information I have on him. Cannot get any medal cards etc.

Also his brother in law Pte William George Porter. Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers. Joined 1917. Number 21752. Wounded. Prisoner of War, released in 1919. After transferring to the Royal Engineers he was demob'd in 1920.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: rusty on November 29, 2010, 09:03:21 PM
HI SKINS GRANDSON, MY DAD'S FROM CASTLEDERG THO NOT RELATED IM SORRY TO SAY ,BUT THERE R STILL A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVIN IN CASTLEDERG NAMED BOGLE. IF U LOOK UP CASTLEDERG NEW CEMETERY U WILL GET A LIST OF PEOPLE BURED THERE N THERE R A FEW BOGLE'S . IT ALSO GIVES THEIR DATE OF BURIAL .
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Skinsgrandson on December 07, 2010, 08:18:29 PM
Thank you! I have his burial date. He is buried in a paupers grave there. There were two Robert Bogle who lived in the same townland! I have a picture of Robert in an army service corps uniform circa 1920's but i'm afraid I cant get any proof he served during WW1.
Thanks again!
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: lelebells on March 21, 2011, 11:59:38 AM
   Fusilier Thomas Kerr          Son of Hugh and Ellen Kerr; of Belfast, Northern Ireland; husband of Margaret Kerr, of Belfast. Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers Death Jun. 1, 1940

     
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: rusty on March 21, 2011, 04:21:43 PM
  Fusilier Thomas Kerr          Son of Hugh and Ellen Kerr; of Belfast, Northern Ireland; husband of Margaret Kerr, of Belfast. Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers Death Jun. 1, 1940   

     
  HI SKINS GRANDSON IF U LOOK UP FACEBOOK  THERES A NED BOGLE IN CASTLEDERG HE MAY B ABLE TO HELP
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: BBJ on March 23, 2011, 10:03:05 AM
My great-uncle Michael McPoland was a serjeant (that's how it was spelt) in the RIF during WW1 and died during a gas attack in May 1916. He is buried in Vermelles Military Cemetery in northern France. We've been there and it was an extremely moving experience.
My avatar is actually a picture of Michael. 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: bobdenn on March 23, 2011, 10:32:02 AM
My great-uncle Michael McPoland was a serjeant (that's how it was spelt) in the RIF during WW1 and died during a gas attack in May 1916. He is buried in Vermelles Military Cemetery in northern France. We've been there and it was an extremely moving experience.
My avatar is actually a picture of Michael.

Remembered here:-
 
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=McPoland&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSob=n&GRid=56589626 (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=McPoland&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSob=n&GRid=56589626)&
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: BBJ on March 23, 2011, 12:21:12 PM

Remembered here:-
 
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=McPoland&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSob=n&GRid=56589626 (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=McPoland&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSob=n&GRid=56589626)&

 
Thanks for that! I've visited the site and have added a family picture (which I'd do here if I knew how to!).
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: jk on March 25, 2011, 10:41:30 PM
My uncle John Kelly was in the royal irish fusiliers.He died in 1944 and is buried in Sangro river cemetery italy.He came from the falls rd Getty st.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: bobdenn on March 26, 2011, 01:07:43 AM
My uncle John Kelly was in the royal irish fusiliers.He died in 1944 and is buried in Sangro river cemetery italy.He came from the falls rd Getty st.

jk,
 
Welcome to the Forum.

I wonder if this is your uncle?
 
There is a Corporal John Kelly remembered here but his year of death is 1943.
 
Link:-
 
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=kelly&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GScntry=9&GSob=n&GSsr=1&GRid=55914860&df=all (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=kelly&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GScntry=9&GSob=n&GSsr=1&GRid=55914860&df=all)&
 
 
Are you sure of the year?  A check with the CWGC will tell you?
 
 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: ms on March 30, 2011, 08:14:33 PM
hi
eward shannon no 24968 killed wwi 1916  he was from belfast
R.I.F
 i think like so many to put a year or two on to jion up
ms
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: bobdenn on March 30, 2011, 09:20:22 PM
hi
eward shannon no 24968 killed wwi 1916  he was from belfast
R.I.F
 i think like so many to put a year or two on to jion up
ms

ms.
 
He is remembered here on the CWGC site.
 
They only have an initial for him which has always struck me as rather impersonal. If you can prove his first name was Edward, then why not contact them and ask them to change it.  There is a "Contact Us" button at the top of the link.
 
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=158947 (http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=158947)

He is also remembered here - again only the initial for the Christian name.

http://www.titanicsdock.com/uploads/documents/Workman%20Memorial%20Listing.pdf (http://www.titanicsdock.com/uploads/documents/Workman%20Memorial%20Listing.pdf)

There is a picture of his headstone here.  Click on photo to enlarge it.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=shannon&GSbyrel=in&GSdy=1916&GSdyrel=in&GScntry=19&GSob=n&GRid=12113405&df=all& (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=shannon&GSbyrel=in&GSdy=1916&GSdyrel=in&GScntry=19&GSob=n&GRid=12113405&df=all&)

Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: ms on March 30, 2011, 10:53:33 PM
hello  bobdenn
may i say a very big thank you for all that information  my dad would never  seen that nor any member of the family
 
i have sent them all the information i have to them so they can place his full name on the web,  he was born in hillview st and  when he join up he was in hillview st
many thanks
ms
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: bobdenn on March 30, 2011, 11:01:19 PM
hello  bobdenn
may i say a very big thank you for all that information  my dad would never  seen that nor any member of the family
 
i have sent them all the information i have to them so they can place his full name on the web,  he was born in hillview st and  when he join up he was in hillview st
many thanks
ms

ms,
 
I am here to please.
 
 :hi:
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: SHORERDSI on March 31, 2011, 12:12:13 PM
My Grandfather RSM Charles Campbell Cyprus 1954. (http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x388/simonm7/SKINS1954CYPRUS.jpg)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: sonnyboy on April 01, 2011, 07:33:56 PM
My grand-Father John Nesbitt served in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers i have a a faded certificate of discharge dated 28th Nov 1924 after serving 4yrs 107 days He must never have spoken about it because it came as a bit of a shock when i showed it to my uncle It was the first he knew about it
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: ardscore on April 03, 2011, 07:11:10 PM
Myself and my mother were looking through some old family documents today and discovered a Discharge Certificate for a Private Frederick McNeil (Number 2030) who served with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers between 1886 and 1898. My paternal grandmother's maiden name was Neill so we are trying to find out if Frederick was a relative of hers.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: julesn on April 05, 2011, 06:25:21 PM
My Great Grandfather served with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers His Name was Samuel Nesbitt His Rank:Private Unit: 1st Bn Service No: 13151 He Died in ww1  in 1916 dont no when he joined up though
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Davie Gilfillan on June 12, 2011, 04:22:29 PM
I'm posting this in the hope that you are able to give us information about our great grandfather's service in The Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers and perhaps solve a couple of family mysteries.
 His name was David Darling, Regimental Number 20191. We also have the numbers P399978 and Class z 28/3/19 but don't know what these mean.
We know he was at Gallipoli and later became a POW in France but that's about all we know.
Two things are a mystery to us. Firstly how did a miner from just outside Edinburgh end up in an Irish Regiment when, to our knowledge, there is no family connection to Ireland. Secondly is the 7Th of June a relevant date in the regiments history? Our tea total great grandfather used to go out on the 7Th every year and get blind drunk but would never tell us why.
Many thanks,
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: delane on June 16, 2011, 04:59:20 PM
hello,there,..QS..did you ask your mates,if they had info on this trooper,..from the 2nd boer war..1899-1902. i am at a lost to find info on john mullan.private 6494. this could be my ggfather, if you need any more info please let me know ..regards..delane. .hi,guys..no 6496. was a joseph..not a john..so this trooper is not my ggfather.from the 2nd boer war...does anyone know from the medal-rolls, how many john mullans, were listed, so i can tick off, one by one,..from the regiments or militia.in 1899-1902..sorry if this is a BIG ask..or a visited to KEW..is a most...regards,...delane..
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: bobdenn on June 16, 2011, 08:45:55 PM
I'm posting this in the hope that you are able to give us information about our great grandfather's service in The Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers and perhaps solve a couple of family mysteries.
 His name was David Darling, Regimental Number 20191. We also have the numbers P399978 and Class z 28/3/19 but don't know what these mean.
We know he was at Gallipoli and later became a POW in France but that's about all we know.
Two things are a mystery to us. Firstly how did a miner from just outside Edinburgh end up in an Irish Regiment when, to our knowledge, there is no family connection to Ireland. Secondly is the 7Th of June a relevant date in the regiments history? Our tea total great grandfather used to go out on the 7Th every year and get blind drunk but would never tell us why.
Many thanks,

Davie,

Go to this Forum, join up (it's free) and in the "Soldiers Board" post a new thread giving as much detail as possible and I think your questions will be answered.

I think they have a POW section as well.

Link:- http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?s=955a380ec9c72e702b2ecb85af32d31f&act=idx (http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?s=955a380ec9c72e702b2ecb85af32d31f&act=idx)

 :smile:

Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: bobdenn on June 16, 2011, 08:54:35 PM
I'm posting this in the hope that you are able to give us information about our great grandfather's service in The Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers and perhaps solve a couple of family mysteries.
 His name was David Darling, Regimental Number 20191. We also have the numbers P399978 and Class z 28/3/19 but don't know what these mean.
We know he was at Gallipoli and later became a POW in France but that's about all we know.
Two things are a mystery to us. Firstly how did a miner from just outside Edinburgh end up in an Irish Regiment when, to our knowledge, there is no family connection to Ireland. Secondly is the 7Th of June a relevant date in the regiments history? Our tea total great grandfather used to go out on the 7Th every year and get blind drunk but would never tell us why.
Many thanks,

Davie,

June 7th 1917 was the first day of the Battle of Messines Ridge. There was many Irish lives lost.

See here for the cemetery where many of them are buried - probably including many friends and comrades of your Great Grandfather.

This was almost exclusively used for burying some of those who fell on the first day of the Battle of Messines, June the 7th, 1917 (three graves are from June the 8th). All except one grave are those of men of the 36th Ulster Division (the Royal Irish Rifles and the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers), and this cemetery was actually lost in later fighting, and only rediscovered after the Armistice. This small cemetery has no register on the site, and consists of just five rows of graves, comprising 58 burials. Of these, 52 are identified, and there are also special memorials at the front of the cemetery for six soldiers known to be buried in the cemetery. All six are from the Royal Irish Rifles, as are many of the other graves here.
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This small "comrades" cemetery, located in the middle of ploughed fields reminded me of Luke Copse cemetery on the Somme. The comrades of the fallen buried these men here in June 1917, after the fighting that raged across this now peaceful landscape, and they lie there still, in peace. This lonely aspect and the small size of the cemetery somehow brings the massive conflict down to a human level.
As you walk back from the cemetery towards the road, a cluster of trees and bushes can be seen on the horizon about 200 metres beyond the road. A track leads west to this, which encircles another mine-crater, Spanbroekmolen.

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Link:- http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:5p-tsVTneFoJ:www.ww1battlefields.co.uk/flanders/messines.html+%22royal+inniskilling+fusiliers%22+june+7th+1917+wytschaete&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&source=www.google.co.uk (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:5p-tsVTneFoJ:www.ww1battlefields.co.uk/flanders/messines.html+%22royal+inniskilling+fusiliers%22+june+7th+1917+wytschaete&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&source=www.google.co.uk)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Davie Gilfillan on June 18, 2011, 01:44:49 PM
Thank you very much for all your help.
 
Now you've got me wondering if being a miner got him posted to digging the tunnels at Messines Ridge.
 
Again thank you.
 
Davie.
 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: delane on June 20, 2011, 07:27:32 PM
 sorry guys, is there any way you guys could check this trooper for me,, pte.6496. j.mullan royal Inniskilling fusilers.[2nd boer/war].please..to see if the J is for a john or joseph..how will i find his discharge papers,..for next of kin & his address..i did not think this trooper was my relation, but some are saying it is..can you help at all,  many thanks delane.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Rose.Johnstone on July 22, 2011, 09:46:28 PM
My father served with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers.  His name was Charles Smyth - he joined up in April 1930 and in 1943 was transferred to the RASC and he was discharged from the army in March 1945 (I think).  He was very proud of being in the Skins and belonged to the Old Comrades Association and I remember when the Skins were disbanded in 1966 (I think).  He didn't want to move to RASC but it appears to have been done without his agreement. 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: sandg on August 14, 2011, 12:16:59 PM
I am trying to trace James Craig who i believe is my father in law. I have his service number, and his rank was sgt in 1955. He was "married"? to joan Lomax from Bury in Lancashire and had a son graham in 1952. I would like anyone with infomation to contact me.
 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: m. on August 14, 2011, 02:14:39 PM
Myself and my mother were looking through some old family documents today and discovered a Discharge Certificate for a Private Frederick McNeil (Number 2030) who served with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers between 1886 and 1898. My paternal grandmother's maiden name was Neill so we are trying to find out if Frederick was a relative of hers.

I have looked in emerald and there are no Frederick's, but there is 2 Francis McNeil marriages.

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Record TypeCivil MarriageDate of Marriage24 Aug 1860Groom Namefrancis MCNEILBride Nameelizabeth HESLIPChurchSaint Marys Church of IrelandParishNewryCivil DistrictNewryCountyDown

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Record TypeCivil MarriageDate of Marriage24 Dec 1881Groom Namefrancis MCNEILBride Namemargaret PATTERSONChurchSaint Patricks Ballymacarrett Church of IrelandParishKnockbredaCivil DistrictBelfastCountyDown

There is a Neil McNeil, age 60, and a Grace McNeil, age 58, in Ballygally 1851 census
1 McNeil for Antrim in the wills section, Hector McNeil, 1889.
There is also a couple of Frederick's for Co. Antrim on the LDS site,

https://www.familysearch.org/search/records#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Afrederick~%20%2Bsurname%3Amcneil~%20%2Bany_place%3A%22antrim%20n.%20ireland%22~&collection_id=1584963

Hope this helps.
m.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: m. on August 14, 2011, 02:15:57 PM
My Grandfather RSM Charles Campbell Cyprus 1954. (http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x388/simonm7/SKINS1954CYPRUS.jpg)

That's a brilliant photo
Title: Looking for any info on both my Grandads who served in the Royal Inniskillens
Post by: Patrick Strain on August 19, 2011, 12:50:58 AM
This is a great forum and the people are so helpful, I'm really glad I have found it. Both my grandads were in the RIF, John Henderson, born 1883? served in WW1, rank of Sgt, born Co.Tyrone, I think Aughnacloy. Married to Mary Slavin 1912 in Scotland. died Gilford 1965. Also Patrick Strain, born 1902/3, served in WW2, was Sgt Major, married Mary Ellen Brady, served 27yrs? any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks from Patrick Strain
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on August 20, 2011, 02:43:02 PM
British Army Service Records 1760-1915
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(http://www.findmypast.co.uk/images/spacer.gif)Attestation soldier number:1647(http://www.findmypast.co.uk/images/spacer.gif)Discharge rank:(http://www.findmypast.co.uk/images/spacer.gif)Discharge corps:Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers - 27th & 108th Foot(http://www.findmypast.co.uk/images/spacer.gif)Discharge soldier number:(http://www.findmypast.co.uk/images/spacer.gif)The National Archives reference:WO96 / 508 / 5(http://www.findmypast.co.uk/images/spacer.gif)There are 4 images (http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/javascript:showImage(960508005)) available for this soldier

You'll have to by credits to view the full records on findmypast
 
WW2 records are not online, you have to apply to Kew in London for Patrick Strain
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: kingskerswell on August 20, 2011, 04:16:42 PM
Patrick,
          I have sent a Personnal Message. Please read it before taking any further action.
 
Regards
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Hutchie on August 27, 2011, 10:13:49 AM
My Great Grandfather served with the Royal Inniskilling Fusileers,
Pte James Hutchinson,11824, 6th Bn.
He died from wounds recieved at Gallipoli, and is buried in Pieta Military Cemetary Malta.
I have been out to his Grave in March this year for the first time.
He died on September 4th 1915.
Anything more would be great.
His story and photos can be viewed on Armagh War Memorial Project. under a search of his name.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Jimmy Joe on September 04, 2011, 08:59:01 PM
My Great Grandfather, Samuel Frazer, DOB possibly 06/12/1869, Londonderry. Served in 1st Batt. 1901 Census return shows him as holding the rank of Sergeant and on furlough pending discharge. Can anyone provide any info on his service? It has taken over two years to find him but there is nothing further on him.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Hutchie on September 05, 2011, 12:30:49 PM
Hi JJ ,
Have u tried the Museum at Inniskilling, or the CWGC, it was through the Common Wealth War Graves Commission,that I found my great Grandfather..
 
 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Jimmy Joe on September 05, 2011, 03:08:30 PM
Thanks Hutchie, but I have other info which suggests he was employed on the railway in 1897 and 1901. The 1911 Census lists my Great Grandmother as a widow. My Grandfather, who was born December 1901, never spoke of him. I have info on four uncles who were also in the Skins so I'm trying to get as much info together as possible before approaching the Museum
 
Regards,
 
J.J.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Davehoneyford on September 08, 2011, 04:17:40 PM
Hello, my great,great grandfather fought with the royal inniskilling fusilers, his name was George madden, he was in the 10th battalion, sadly he died on august 10, 1917. I have his army and death records on my pc, also photos of the fusilers plaque on the mennin gate, beligium, it included George madden. His army number was 24675, I hope this info is of help to you, thanks
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: bobdenn on September 08, 2011, 08:43:26 PM
Hello, my great,great grandfather fought with the royal inniskilling fusilers, his name was George madden, he was in the 10th battalion, sadly he died on august 10, 1917. I have his army and death records on my pc, also photos of the fusilers plaque on the mennin gate, beligium, it included George madden. His army number was 24675, I hope this info is of help to you, thanks

Hi Dave and welcome to the Forum.
Your GG grandfather is remembered here on the Diamond War Memorial, but there is very little information about him.
You may wish to contact them to fill in the blank spaces.

 http://diamondwarmemorial.com/soldiers/view/853 (http://diamondwarmemorial.com/soldiers/view/853)

also remembered here:-

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=madden&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GScntry=19&GSob=n&GRid=12037613&df=all& (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=madden&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GScntry=19&GSob=n&GRid=12037613&df=all&)

BD
 :)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Davehoneyford on September 08, 2011, 09:10:57 PM
Thanks alot for the links, I'm currently reseaching my Irish relitives, but it's not easy as I can't find birth records for George any where or where he lived, I think 10th batt was formed mainly of Derry volunteers, so I'm looking for birth records around there.

Thanks again,dave
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: bobdenn on September 08, 2011, 09:25:51 PM
Thanks alot for the links, I'm currently reseaching my Irish relitives, but it's not easy as I can't find birth records for George any where or where he lived, I think 10th batt was formed mainly of Derry volunteers, so I'm looking for birth records around there.

Thanks again,dave

You are quite right. They were mainly Derry volunteers, but there were some from Donegal.

If you e-mail the Diamond Project, Trevor Temple will be able to help you.

If you are looking for more info on the MADDEN family, post a new thread on the Genealogy board with as much info as possible - names, dates, places and someone may be able to help.

 ;)

Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: bobdenn on September 08, 2011, 09:31:18 PM


This is the only George MADDEN near Derry in the 1911 census. Bannbrook is just west of Coleraine. Might that be him?

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Bannbrook/Pottagh/588225/ (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Bannbrook/Pottagh/588225/)

Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Davehoneyford on September 08, 2011, 09:44:54 PM
Thanks so much, I,ll search again with this info, I've emailed Trevor temple maddens qualification date so I hope that helps, again thanks so much for all your help, it's been really useful to me, I'll try and find his birth records now.

Kind regards Dave

 :)

Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: colin3110 on September 25, 2011, 02:30:12 PM
Hi QS, wonder if you can help!
My grandfather served with 2nd Battalion Royal Fusiliers, we have a group photo taken in Catterick in 1939, possibly a passing our parade. Name of William McKenzie Scott Robertson, was known as Robbie. Tried 'Trace a relative' through museum, they referred me to office in Glasgow as they hold records from 1920s onwards, didnt go any further. We know he served in far east & have a medal he received in Singapore for running-came 2nd!
Appreciate any further info you can provide.
Thanks
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Lord George on September 26, 2011, 08:41:34 PM
I would appreciate any advice on how i could find any information about my father, John, Henry, Murray. He was a fusilier at the battle of Monty Casino. He never spoke much at all about those days, but i have always wanted to no how to get his service medals. Many thanks for any ideas.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: rob elliott on October 09, 2011, 11:16:41 PM
Dave,
 
George Madden is listed as coming from Articlave so the Bannbrook man on the 1901/11census is him.
Why he is listed on Londonderry War memorial is not clear, however there are a set of records held in the harbour museum which give details of who put his name forward to go on the memorial.
As the memorial was not constructed until the late 1920s' it may be that his wife moved there to her family after he died. But the war memorial committee were very strict and you had to prove a connection to the City to be included.
Bes t to look for a memorial at Articlave too to se if he's on that.
He will be listed in the book, 'Three Cheers for the Derrys' a history of the 10th Btn Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers.
 
He did not join this Btn whn they were formed as he would have had a number beginning 15..., so he would have joined up sometime in 1915.
 
Rob
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: dilemma16 on October 13, 2011, 02:18:18 PM
hi, im new to tis but have read quite a few post n see that there is a lot of info about!
My grandfather served with the skins his name was John devenny ... he was born in nov 1898 in londonderry but lived in Eglington ... i have been told he signed up for the great was and lied about his age as he was too young to go! i have no number for him but hav been told he served with 9th battalion in the royal inniskilling fusiliers! any help anyone can give id be most greatful!!
thanks
x
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Davehoneyford on October 13, 2011, 07:45:21 PM
Rob,

I have George's qualification certificate, you were right, he qualified on the 12th of December, 1915. I also have his death certificate, but other than a few army records I know very little about his life, e.g birth and marriage, do you know any good websites to search for birth and marriage records? Also what exactly do you mean by the banbrook man?also,do you know where I can get a copy of three cheers for the derrys?

Dave
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: bobdenn on October 13, 2011, 07:51:18 PM


If you live near Derry, Eason's in the Foyleside Shopping centre had it a few weeks ago.  Or:-

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Three-Cheers-Derrys-Inniskilling-Recollections/dp/1873832346 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Three-Cheers-Derrys-Inniskilling-Recollections/dp/1873832346)

Details of the Harbour Museum (and phone number) here:-

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?hl=en&rlz=1G1SVEE_ENUK450&gs_upl=1088l9039l0l9285l26l26l0l13l13l0l242l2187l1.10.2l13l0&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=harbour+museum+londonderry&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=harbour+museum (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?hl=en&rlz=1G1SVEE_ENUK450&gs_upl=1088l9039l0l9285l26l26l0l13l13l0l242l2187l1.10.2l13l0&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=harbour+museum+londonderry&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=harbour+museum&hnear=0x485fdde434d09363:0xbd21fa2ac755f32f,Londonderry,+Derry&cid=11368039852051506764&ei=ZTOXTpCzEcuw8QPm6bzxBQ&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=placepage-link&resnum=4&ved=0CDkQ4gkwAw)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: bobdenn on October 13, 2011, 08:01:48 PM


Dave,

I assume you are aware of this site?

G. MADDEN: Private George Madden, 24675,10th Battalion Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers. He was a son of Andrew Madden, Articlave. On the 8th August 1907 he married Martha McCallion, Pottagh in St. Paul’s Parish Church. They had two children, Andrew and Annie.

http://www.ulsterwarmemorials.net/html/county_londonderry_church_of_i.html (http://www.ulsterwarmemorials.net/html/county_londonderry_church_of_i.html)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Davehoneyford on October 13, 2011, 08:06:05 PM
Rob,

Just searched Articlave war memorial and have found the name of his father and his wife, the date of his marriage and the name of his other child( I knew one already). Thanks for suggesting it, it's been a real help.

Dave :D
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: bobdenn on October 13, 2011, 08:11:00 PM


George Madden is also remembered here:-

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=madden&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=all&GScntry=19&GSob=n&GRid=12037613&df=all& (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=madden&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=all&GScntry=19&GSob=n&GRid=12037613&df=all&)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: rob elliott on October 14, 2011, 10:13:11 PM
Dave,
 
There is something else, i think i have found the rest of George's family.
 
He was living in Bannbrook near Articlave with his wife in the 1911 census. Also in Bannbrook was another Madden family. A widow with some of her children. I believe this is George's mother.
 
It looks like he had 7 brothers and sisters. Only 5 were at home with the mother.
 
They were, like him, Church of Ireland, there are no more Maddens anywhere near and in addition there was a boy living with the widow named Andrew, the same name as George's father and the name he gave his son.
This Andrew Madden joined the 10th Inniskillings. His service number was 24954, close to George's number, but Andrew joined 21/7/1915, which would explain his lower number.
 
Andrew was in 'A' Company, number 3 platoon [this was Londonderry City men].
Did he end up living in the City after the war and have his brother, George's, name put on the war memorial?
 
From the census it would be possible to check Andrew birth certificate to see if his father was Andrew or to check Andrew snr death certificate.
 
Rob
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: rob elliott on October 14, 2011, 10:16:06 PM
Dave,
 
Looks like another brother, James, also served.
Number 144495, gunner, Royal Garrison Artillary. Unfortunately they are not my field of research so can tell you nothing of them.
 
Rob
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: mickf on January 20, 2012, 12:22:38 PM
My father Stanley Faulkner b. 1922, was in the 'Skins' during the Second World War but I do not know his date of elistment, his service number was 14015757.   He died some years ago and we have very little information of his service life.  He lived in south east London and a village outside Banbury, Oxfordshire.  I would like to know how, given where he lived, he came to join the 'Skins', our family has no connection with Northern Ireland.  I would be grateful for any help or information.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: CMcG on January 20, 2012, 02:13:52 PM
Hi there, have you determined that there is no Faulkner link back to Northern Ireland in terms of his parents or grandparents?
There is a Thomas Faulkner of Belfast was in the Skins Royal Corps of Signals during WW2 and died in 1942...
 
 
 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: mickf on January 20, 2012, 03:35:39 PM
Thanks CMcG for your reply.  My grandfather, and a couple of generations  back (1700s) were all from the same village and never strayed to N. Ireland.  I have since learned that Stanley Faulkner joined the RAF as soon as he was able (around 1940 at the age of 18yrs)  At some point he was drafted in to the IFs and saw war service in Austria and Italy guarding prisoners of war.  Thanks again.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: dilemma16 on January 23, 2012, 02:31:03 PM
My grandfather served witht the skins , his name was John Devenney but on his medal card he is called Private John McIlroy 25510.  He changed his surname so his war money went to the family who took him in as a child. I dont know the dates of his service but he fought and survived both wars.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: [email protected] on January 26, 2012, 10:38:22 PM
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSvcid=149287&GRid=50441469&lease (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSvcid=149287&GRid=50441469&lease) feel free to visit my granda Patrick Neeson who served with them.
also his bother Charles who died during world war one.  http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSvcid=149287&GRid=12115115 (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSvcid=149287&GRid=12115115)  another brother John also served and returned from the war. 
 
John was the youngest Sgt. Major and was under age when he enlisted.  Took the name of an older brother also John who died as an infant.  Later served with Lawrence of Arabia.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: margaret045 on February 02, 2012, 05:15:05 PM
My g,g grandfather, James Loughridge, served with the 27th foot regiment of Inniskilling Fusiliers. He won a medal award in the 1857 Indian Mutiny, married Margaret Booth there in 1861 and had a daughter Sarah Jane, born in India around 1867. Can anyone tell me where to find out more info about his work in India or does anyone recognize any of these names?
Thanks
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: rob elliott on February 03, 2012, 04:50:48 PM
Cadetsmum,
 
The medal cards on the link you provided are not the ones belonging to your family. You have two cards for Patrick, one correct and one nothing to do with him and for Charles the medal card and the grave belong to two different people.
 
Margaret,
 
For the dates you are interested in it would be best to contact the Inniskillings museum at Enniskillen.
You can google for their details and send them an e-mail.
 
Rob
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Post by: margaret045 on February 05, 2012, 02:49:09 PM
Thanks for the information Robbie. I will email the museum and see what turns up.
Margaret
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Joshua Breslin on March 29, 2012, 03:30:31 PM
Hello guys,

My great grand father who came from Donegal served in this regiment.
His name was Patrick Breslin he served under the fusiliers in the Somme and the third battle of Ypres at Passchanedale i am curious what he did and if there is a memorial for his regiment but all i know is that he fought in the Somme and in Passcheandale and before he worked in Belfast as a bartender on a ship which did the New York to Belfast crossing i hope this helps.

Joshua.

PS: I'm only thirteen so don't expect much.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on March 29, 2012, 03:50:56 PM
Joshua, do you know the year of Patrick's birth, or who his wife or parents where ?
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Joshua Breslin on March 30, 2012, 10:02:28 AM
Joshua, do you know the year of Patrick's birth, or who his wife or parents where ?

Well he was Born i think in 1889 and his wife was something kavanagh.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: speedwobble on March 30, 2012, 02:05:34 PM
This may be him Joshua.
 
Taken from medal card.
Private, Patrick Breslin army number 17937
 
Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
 
He was awarded the Victory Medal the British Medal and the 1915 Star and he was wounded because he had been given a Silver War Badge.  It also states that he joinred the army on 29th May 1915.  I'll send you a copy of the medal card when I get a chance.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on March 30, 2012, 04:32:23 PM
There's also this one
 
 
Name:Patrick BreslinRegiment or Corps:Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers, Labour CorpsRegimental Number:31006, 649683
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: jimbothematlow on March 30, 2012, 07:53:04 PM
Hello,
 
Thats a brilliant picture, of the WO & Sgts Mess - are the names on it? because I`d like to know if Sergeant Harry McKinley is in it?
 
I`m trying to find out about 2nd Battalion the Skins in Cyprus 1954-56
 
Can anybody please help?
 
Thanks,
Jim
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Joshua Breslin on March 31, 2012, 08:14:28 AM
I forgot to say that he also had to be sent home because he got mustard gassed and when he arrived home the local priest knew something that might help he told him to eat a whole fresh egg every moring to restore the mucus membrane he died in 1966
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: speedwobble on March 31, 2012, 11:19:33 AM
OK Joshua.  I reckon he is the soldier I listed as the second soldier wasn't recorded as being injured.

Soldiers who where injured where given a Silver War Badge to wear on their civilian clothes.  This was to show everyone that they had been been in the army and were not cowards.  I'll send you a P.M. and email you a copy of the medal card.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: ellydr on April 16, 2012, 01:44:33 PM
my two great grandfather was in the fusiliers
hugh robinson 23325 was his no i think from 1923-1924 ww1
and joseph drumgoole in 1913 based in africa for boar war as my grandfather was born there
these wer both hard to find espeically the drumgoole as they weren't around for the 1911 census also he re-enlisted in ww1 at the age of 47 any info you find out would be great as all of that generation and most of the next gone
 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on April 16, 2012, 01:50:45 PM
my two great grandfather was in the fusiliers
hugh robinson 23325 was his no i think from 1923-1924 ww1
and joseph drumgoole in 1913 based in africa for boar war as my grandfather was born there
these wer both hard to find espeically the drumgoole as they weren't around for the 1911 census also he re-enlisted in ww1 at the age of 47 any info you find out would be great as all of that generation and most of the next gone

WW1 was between 1914-1919
1st Boer war 1880-81
2nd Boer war 1899-1902
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on April 16, 2012, 01:57:15 PM
Could this be him
  British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
about Joseph Drumgoole   
Name:Joseph DrumgooleEstimated Birth Year:abt 1868Age at enlistment:47Document Year:1915Regimental Number:4720416Regiment Name:Labour CorpsNumber of images:22
Wife Elizabeth Campbell
Children Joseph, Elena Elizabeth, Annie & Charles all born in India
 
Address 21 Glenwhirry street Belfast
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on April 16, 2012, 01:59:34 PM
 1911 England Census
about Joseph Drumgoole   
Name:Joseph DrumgooleAge in 1911:38Estimated Birth Year:abt 1873Birth Place:Drumgrove, Cavan, IrelandCounty/Island:MilitaryCountry:EnglandMarital Status:MarriedOccupation:NilRegistration District Number:641ED, institution, or vessel:IndiaPiece:34991Household Members:
 
Name
Age Joseph Drumgoole (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1911England&indiv=try&h=32800424)
38

oversea military Royal Irish Fusillers, his wife & children are with him in India
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on April 16, 2012, 02:15:55 PM
     British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
about Joseph Drumgool   
Name:Joseph DrumgoolEstimated Birth Year:abt 1872Age at enlistment:18Birth Parish:DrumgownaBirth County:CasunDocument Year:1890Regimental Number:3769Regiment Name:Royal Irish FusiliersNumber of images:11

 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on April 16, 2012, 02:18:02 PM
Sorry can't find anything on Hugh Robinson other than his medal card
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Joshua Breslin on April 16, 2012, 03:32:32 PM
You guys have beem a great help thanks.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: ellydr on April 16, 2012, 04:44:26 PM
Sorry can't find anything on Hugh Robinson other than his medal card
thanks for trying have a copy of his medical card
 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: ellydr on April 16, 2012, 05:03:10 PM
     British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
about Joseph Drumgool   
Name:Joseph DrumgoolEstimated Birth Year:abt 1872Age at enlistment:18Birth Parish:DrumgownaBirth County:CasunDocument Year:1890Regimental Number:3769Regiment Name:Royal Irish FusiliersNumber of images:11
oh thats great info on great grandda drumgoole had managed to get his wifes name and traced marriage records and thought cavan is where he started from so just confirmed it as i only had the info for second time he was in india very hard to get info as i never met any of my grandda's family so have given me loads to go on really apprieciate it
Elly
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on April 16, 2012, 05:05:38 PM
If you want the full records pm me your email address and I'll send them to you.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: BigAgiesMan on April 16, 2012, 06:02:46 PM
I am looking for information please about William S Hamilton, born 1888. from Ballyrobin, Stranocum. I know he survived the war, unlike his brother John who died 01/07/16
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on April 16, 2012, 07:13:19 PM
I am looking for information please about William S Hamilton, born 1888. from Ballyrobin, Stranocum. I know he survived the war, unlike his brother John who died 01/07/16

There no records coming up for a William S Hamilton born ballyrobin, Stranocum. Did he live  anywhere else?
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: BigAgiesMan on April 16, 2012, 07:35:32 PM

There no records coming up for a William S Hamilton born ballyrobin, Stranocum. Did he live  anywhere else?

No that's where the family lived. Thanks for trying. Maybe I am wrong in assuming that he joined the same regiment as his brother
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: mad4pyro on April 23, 2012, 07:51:50 PM
Hi, I'm trying to find information regarding my Grandfather, Thomas Kerr born in Castlederg, who I'm told served with  the R.E.F. prior to the outbreak of the Second World War and indeed was evacuated shell - shocked from Dunkirk. I'm afraid you are my first port of call and any information you have I'd be grateful for. before getting in touch with the Military museum in Enniskillen which I see from previous posts you highly reccomend.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Tischris on April 24, 2012, 12:53:55 AM
Hi mad4pyro, You didn't say if your Grandfather died during the war  - if so, this may be him?
Chris
Name:Thomas KerrGiven Initials:T DRank:FusilierDeath Date:14 Nov 1943Number:6976531Birth Place:TyroneResidence:TyroneRegiment at Enlistment:Royal Irish Fusiliers (Princess Victoria’s)Branch at Enlistment:InfantryTheatre of War:Middle EastRegiment at Death:Royal Irish Fusiliers (Princess Victoria’s)Branch at Death:Infantry

 
Hi, I'm trying to find information regarding my Grandfather, Thomas Kerr born in Castlederg, who I'm told served with  the R.E.F. prior to the outbreak of the Second World War and indeed was evacuated shell - shocked from Dunkirk. I'm afraid you are my first port of call and any information you have I'd be grateful for. before getting in touch with the Military museum in Enniskillen which I see from previous posts you highly reccomend.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: mad4pyro on April 24, 2012, 09:08:35 AM
Hi Tischris, many thanks for answering my initial inquiry so promptly, no my granfather survived the war and afterwards served as a member of the special police constabulary. He died in the late 60's. As I say I'm really only at the formative stages here,and I guess I should speak more with family members regarding birth date and when he passed away, all I have to go on is little snippets which are confirmed as having served in India and being evacuated from Dunkirk. I'm also lead to believe he was regarded somewhat of a distinguished athlete and won many regimental titles in sport. He also was a sparring partner for Spider Kelly the successful boxer from Londonderry, confusingly though there is two Spider Kelly's but I'm assuming it was the one who was around from the twenties onwards.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Rose.Johnstone on April 25, 2012, 12:30:00 PM
I contacted the Museum re: my father who was in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers and they were able to give me the date he enlisted and his army number and where he served.  Also he moved to the RASC which I knew but they gave me the date.  This has been very useful to me so I would certainly recommend them.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: mad4pyro on April 26, 2012, 09:18:10 AM
Thanks Rose, the museum will be my next port of call, I take it that all they will require is his date of birth, name and place of birth. Will I have to pay a fee?
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Rose.Johnstone on April 26, 2012, 07:00:00 PM
Yes, I think I paid about £8. but they replied very promptly.  Rose
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: easydoesit on May 08, 2012, 07:26:52 PM
hi everyone just found this forum. my grandad Hamilton Jamieson fought at the Somme with the skins where I believe he lost his leg. He was born in Belfast around 1895 and survived to marry Annie Young. He farmed at Dunalong Bready Strabane until his death around 1958.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on May 08, 2012, 07:42:31 PM
hi everyone just found this forum. my grandad Hamilton Jamieson fought at the Somme with the skins where I believe he lost his leg. He was born in Belfast around 1895 and survived to marry Annie Young. He farmed at Dunalong Bready Strabane until his death around 1958.

 
  UK, Silver War Badge Records, 1914-1920
about Hamilton Jamieson   
Name:Hamilton JamiesonDischarge Unit:Royal Inniskilling FusiliersRegiment Number:13646Rank:Pte.Badge Number:319040Unit:Infantry (Dublin)Piece:3012List Number:B 0601-0900Record Group:WORecord Class:329
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: easydoesit on May 08, 2012, 10:02:42 PM
thanks maura,how did you get soo much info so quickly. the silver badge i guess he received on his discharge due to his injury.How do i find out what other medals he might have received and when he enlisted. Also like to know if he fought in any other battles.My father who served in ww11 with the 8th army in the desert campaign had a great respect for 'Hammie'. Said he was a 'soldier'.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on May 09, 2012, 01:30:44 PM
thanks maura,how did you get soo much info so quickly. the silver badge i guess he received on his discharge due to his injury.How do i find out what other medals he might have received and when he enlisted. Also like to know if he fought in any other battles.My father who served in ww11 with the 8th army in the desert campaign had a great respect for 'Hammie'. Said he was a 'soldier'.

I've sent you a p.m.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: smcconkey on May 09, 2012, 06:10:45 PM
20431 - Private John McConkey, served in the Inskilling's 7th Batt. Killed in Action in April 1916.
Does anyone have an enlistment date for him and where he did?
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on May 09, 2012, 06:21:25 PM
20431 - Private John McConkey, served in the Inskilling's 7th Batt. Killed in Action in April 1916.
Does anyone have an enlistment date for him and where he did?
  UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about John Mcconkey   
Name:John McconkeyBirth Place:St. Ann's, Co. AntrimResidence:BelfastDeath Date:6 Apr 1916Death Location:France & FlandersEnlistment Location:EnniskillenRank:PrivateRegiment:Royal Inniskilling FusiliersBattalion:7th BattalionNumber:20431Type of Casualty:Killed in actionTheatre of War:Western European Theatre
 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: smcconkey on May 09, 2012, 06:24:10 PM
Confirmed as Enniskilling then, interesting. Wonder why as he lived in South Belfast?
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: easydoesit on May 10, 2012, 04:22:43 PM

I've sent you a p.m.
thankyou soo much. I have learned so much about my grandad and am indebted to you for that -- it all helps to ensure that people like him are remembered. many many thanks
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: crazy1965 on May 12, 2012, 03:33:59 PM
private william john nelson, service number 7493  12th battalion RIF.Taken as a prisoner of war by the germans in 1918.
Andrew logan 10th battalion RIF. volunteered for active service in september 1914 aged 19 Taken as a prisoner of war by the germans in 1918
 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on May 12, 2012, 03:56:18 PM
 British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
about William J Nelson   
Name:William J NelsonRegiment or Corps:Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers, To 1st Lab Bn R Ir Regt, Labour CorpsRegimental Number:7493, L/521, 108961
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on May 12, 2012, 04:01:21 PM
 British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
about Andrew Logan   
Name:Andrew LoganRegiment or Corps:Royal Inniskilling FusiliersRegimental Number:11557
 
 
Name:Andrew LoganRegiment or Corps:Royal Inniskilling FusiliersRegimental Number:12649

 
Name:Andrew LoganRegiment or Corps:Royal Inniskilling FusiliersRegimental Number:15707
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Duke C on May 27, 2012, 09:34:14 PM
I have a newspaper cutting saying that my uncle died of his wounds in Burma
 the details on this cutting say that he Cpl.David Millar died of his wounds in Burma on April 4th 1943
after 10 years service. I was looking for details of where he would have been buried I tried C.G.C.but had no luck,can you sugest anywhere else I can look
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: prairiehobbit on May 28, 2012, 05:44:43 AM
I am doing some research for a friend whose father was in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers 1915-19.  He was Lance Corporal James Steen #19342.  On a small chain with a uniform button and his Fusiliers tag, he had a cross.  On inspection the cross was engraved with what looks like a heart with possibly a crown or flame and a nail piercing it?  I wondered if it was regiment related.  It has words on one side that look like E Poiruys and the date 30 (Mei?) 1886.  He was born in 1896 so it's not his birthday.  Any help would be appreciated.  I will see if this inserts the photos.
Thanks, Keith
(http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/c:\mydocuments\irish\steen\JSteenFusilierside1v2)
(http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/C:\MyDocuments\Irish\Steen\JSteenFusilierside2v2)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: bobmcc on June 14, 2012, 02:55:52 PM
Hi. My uncle Samuel Britton McConnell served in the 1st Skins enlisted 1916 and as CO,(A/Lt Col) KIA in Yenang Yaung, Burma 2200hrs 18th April 1942. My father also served with the 1st Skins and enlisted at the same time but transferred to the York and Lancasters in 1923. He got the MC in 1917.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: jimlen on June 24, 2012, 10:58:16 AM
Hi
My grandfather was enlisted in RIF 1916[after boer War with Liverpool Kings]awarded the Belgian Croix de Guerre,his number was 18816 1st.Battalion.[Sergeant]his name was James Thompson.jimlen
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Brianmccloskey on June 26, 2012, 09:53:33 AM
My Grandfather William McFadden served with the 10 batt from 1914 to 1918 when he was transferred to the 1st batt.  He was wounded by sharpnel at Ypres in 1918 but survived the war.
After a long recovery he made it home in 1919. 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on June 26, 2012, 12:02:28 PM
 UK, Silver War Badge Records, 1914-1920
about Wm. McFadden   
Name:Wm. McFaddenDischarge Unit:Royal Inniskilling FusiliersRegiment Number:15826Rank:Cpl.Badge Number:B295975Unit:Infantry (Dublin)Piece:3014List Number:B 1201-1450Record Group:WORecord Class:329

enlisted 21/9/1914
disharged 1/9/1919
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Brianmccloskey on June 26, 2012, 04:28:31 PM
That's him maura. He was one of the lucky ones. Went on to work as a postman until his death at home in Aghadowey in 1963.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Thyme4h on July 15, 2012, 06:45:58 PM
Hi, I have just discovered this site.  My Grandfather was William George Porter who married Catherine Bogle sister of Robert.  There are still family members living in Castlederg.   Robert had another sister Jeannie and brother Tommy. If you want more information please do not hesitate to contact me.  I have details of his war record and other information.

Kind regards
Rebecca Burrough (nee Porter)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Poppy1916 on July 20, 2012, 12:57:34 AM
My great uncle Thomas Morrison joined the 1st Inniskilling Fusiliers in 1910. He served in India before the Great War. His no was 10215. He was from 4 Dufferin Street which is East Belfast (just off the Albertbridge Road). He was killed at Gallipoli on 22nd May 1915 and has a special memorial at Twelve Tree Copse. He was 22.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: stangfordman on August 05, 2012, 05:06:42 AM
 
my great uncle served with the skins.  l/cp j. p. mctaggart 19629. he was killed  on the first day of the somme 1/7/1916. would you have any further information on  him, i`d love to know more.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on August 05, 2012, 03:23:14 PM
 UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about John Patrick Mctaggart   
Name:John Patrick MctaggartBirth Place:Gateshead, DurhamResidence:GatesheadDeath Date:1 Jul 1916Death Location:France & FlandersEnlistment Location:Newcastle-on-tyneRank:L/CorporalRegiment:Royal Inniskilling FusiliersBattalion:2nd BattalionNumber:19629Type of Casualty:Killed in actionTheatre of War:Western European Theatre
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: stangfordman on August 06, 2012, 07:30:06 PM
thanks for your kind reply maura.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: crazeee14 on August 17, 2012, 12:33:37 AM
Hello there, I was wondering if someone could help me. I have scarce information on my Great-grandfather who served in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers. His name was Jonas Gray, he apparently was a sergeant, and he was born in Nottinghamshire. I think he died in 1960 if that helps. Any information would be of great help!
Thanks.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on August 18, 2012, 05:37:49 PM
Hello there, I was wondering if someone could help me. I have scarce information on my Great-grandfather who served in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers. His name was Jonas Gray, he apparently was a sergeant, and he was born in Nottinghamshire. I think he died in 1960 if that helps. Any information would be of great help!
Thanks.

Was he in WW1 or WW2, as there only 1 Jonas Gray coming up on the ww1 medal card index and he wasn't in the R.I.F
 
  British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
about Jonas Gray   
Name:Jonas GrayRegiment or Corps:Leicestershire Regiment, Leicestershire RegimentRegimental Number:5551, 40260
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: LaraK on August 30, 2012, 12:14:46 PM
Hello,
I don't know if anyone would be able to give me any additional information on my late grandfather?  His name was Joseph Dunne and his army number was 6976193 (or 6976195 - writing on discharge form is very faded!).  It appears from his discharge form he may have had multiple periods of service as it indicates he either rejoined or was mobilized in September 1939 and was discharged in May 1940 - although it indicates that his total service was some 12+ years.  It states his rank at discharge was Corporal.  I have no further information about his service or where he may have been stationed.  He passed away in 1962.
I'm new to researching military records/information and don't really know where to start to get information on my late grandfather's service with the RIF.
Thanks you.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on August 30, 2012, 03:06:46 PM
WW2 records are not online, to my knowledge Kew Archives in London hold theses records.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: LaraK on August 30, 2012, 07:02:38 PM
Thanks Maura.  Any idea about where information would be held for any service he undertook before the outbreak of WW2? 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: beresford on September 03, 2012, 02:15:48 PM
my father was Thomas Alexander Beresford born 1902 on his arm was a tatoo of a harp with a crown on the top - he told us this was his army badge- on his wedding certifiacate in 1925 he is down as being a sadler - don't know where to find any info -- can anyone help please ---
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: TenNumberSix on September 03, 2012, 02:57:32 PM
Hi QS, I dont know if this will be of interest to you or anyone else here but there is a famous song, known as (No mans land), (The green fields of France) or (Willie McBride)  Eric Bogle wrote the song in 1976 and it is supposed to be about a 19 year old Private W. McBride of the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers.  He died in either France or Belguim in 1916.
There is a wikipadea link about it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Man's_Land_(Eric_Bogle_song)#Who_was_.22Willie_McBride.3F.22 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Man's_Land_(Eric_Bogle_song)#Who_was_.22Willie_McBride.3F.22) 
There's also a youtube video of the song with a picture of the Private W.Mcbride's gravestone saying he was a Royal Inniskilling Fusilier. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=iKYG2_OlNTQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=iKYG2_OlNTQ)   There is a bit of controversy over who the song is actually about but someone on here might know more, or maybe someone was actually related to a W.McBride of the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: iusedtobe16 on September 15, 2012, 01:12:04 PM
i had a great uncle james liddy he was 18 when he was killed at gillipoli.he was from the new lodge rd.
 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on September 15, 2012, 01:41:26 PM
Is this him
 
 LIDDY, JAMES  Rank: Private Service No: 3418 Date of Death: 29/08/1915 Age: 20 Regiment/Service: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers   1st Bn.  Panel Reference Panel 97 to 101. Memorial HELLES MEMORIAL Additional Information: Son of Hugh and Susanah Liddy, of 16, Pinkerton St., Belfast.
 
 
  UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about James Liddy   
Name:James LiddyBirth Place:Shankhill, Co. AntrimDeath Date:29 Aug 1915Death Location:At SeaEnlistment Location:BelfastRank:PrivateRegiment:Royal Inniskilling FusiliersBattalion:1st BattalionNumber:3418Type of Casualty:Died of woundsTheatre of War:At Sea
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on September 15, 2012, 02:00:20 PM
This is the same person, give his father Hugh as his next of kin and the same address
 
  British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
about James Liddy   
Name:James LiddyEstimated Birth Year:abt 1895Age at enlistment:18Birth Parish:ShankillBirth County:AntrimDocument Year:1913Regimental Number:2926Regiment Name:Bn R Innis FusNumber of images:9
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Post by: kingskerswell on September 15, 2012, 03:03:48 PM
Hi,
    In the 1911 census the family is listed in Pinkerton St, but the spelling is LEADY. In his Service Documents James gives his father, Hugh, as his next-of-kin but also lists his brothers, Hugh and Joseph.
Regards
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Post by: IrishInNJ on September 18, 2012, 03:54:31 PM
I know a fair bit about my great-grand uncle Thomas James Meehan...as follows:

Thomas James Meehan of Randalshough, Monea joined the 8th Battalion of the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers in 1915. The battalion formed part of the 16th (Irish) Division of the British Army. Following months of training in Mallow, Fermoy, Tipperary town and Finner Camp, the Division moved in Sept. 1915 to Woking, England. On 18th Dec. 1915, they arrived in northern France. The week of the Easter Rising in Ireland, the men of the 16th were near the German-held village of Hulluch, a mile north of Loos. A chlorine gas attack on the Irish trenches on the night of 27th April caused devastation: about 1,590 injured, 538 dead. It is likely that Lance Corporal Thomas J. Meehan (Service No. 25131) suffered from the effects of gas poisoning, dying two days after the attack. His Commonwealth War Graves Commission record states that he was 20 years old, but the census records for 1901 and 1911 suggest that he was only 18.

What I would love is to try and source photos of, at the very least, the 8th regiment or the "Gas attack at Hulluch" etc. Individual photos Of TJ Meehan seem impossible to source.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Tischris on September 19, 2012, 12:25:57 AM
Hi Beresford, Try the Royal Irish Rifles they have a museum in Waring St., Belfast. Your Granddad's tattoo was most likely from that regiment.
Chris
my father was Thomas Alexander Beresford born 1902 on his arm was a tatoo of a harp with a crown on the top - he told us this was his army badge- on his wedding certifiacate in 1925 he is down as being a sadler - don't know where to find any info -- can anyone help please ---
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Thebrother on September 20, 2012, 11:22:02 PM
Looking for info on my fathers uncle William James Craig  service number 18097, 11th Bn, died 06/07/1917

I think he had reached the rank of Lance Corp before his death and died of injuries received on an earlier date.

I think he was also in the Royal Berkshire reg ragtl no 39566 as well as the Royal Inniskilling Fus Ragtl no: 14452.

Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on September 21, 2012, 10:28:09 AM
 UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about William Craig   
Name:William CraigBirth Place:Culmore, Co. DerryResidence:LondonderryDeath Date:6 Jul 1917Death Location:France & FlandersEnlistment Location:EnniskillenRank:PrivateRegiment:Royal Inniskilling FusiliersBattalion:11th BattalionNumber:18097Type of Casualty:Died of woundsTheatre of War:Western European Theatre
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Tirconnell on September 23, 2012, 07:10:54 PM
Hi, my Great Uncle James Diver was a Private in the 1st Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers - Unit: Infantry (Dublin), Regimental No:18399.
He enlisted 29/12/1914 and was discharged 22/10/1915, after he lost his right arm in the Dardanelles. On his WW1 Medal Rolls Index Card, it states that his Theatre of War first served was (2B) Balkans on 17/03/1915.
All this military information does not  'trip off the end of my tongue', so apologies if there are some mistakes.
I do not know what happened to him after this or even where he lived, a pity. I'm trying to find out which authority/group is the best to write to for more/any information on him - any suggestions?
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Tischris on September 23, 2012, 09:31:31 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/torquay0/Forum%20uploads/JamesDiver_zpsad92590c.png)
 
Hi, Here's your Uncle's medal card which has his address in Limavady.
 
Hi, my Great Uncle James Diver was a Private in the 1st Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers - Unit: Infantry (Dublin), Regimental No:18399.
He enlisted 29/12/1914 and was discharged 22/10/1915, after he lost his right arm in the Dardanelles. On his WW1 Medal Rolls Index Card, it states that his Theatre of War first served was (2B) Balkans on 17/03/1915.
All this military information does not  'trip off the end of my tongue', so apologies if there are some mistakes.
I do not know what happened to him after this or even where he lived, a pity. I'm trying to find out which authority/group is the best to write to for more/any information on him - any suggestions?
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: chaynes on September 29, 2012, 12:31:11 PM
Grandfather - Albert John Haynes. Service number is 5000496. Born 1926, Died 1963. Any further information would be great
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on September 29, 2012, 07:39:56 PM
Grandfather - Albert John Haynes. Service number is 5000496. Born 1926, Died 1963. Any further information would be great

Only ww1 and earlier records are online.
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Post by: hollyhenry on October 02, 2012, 02:07:38 AM
Hi,

I have a question which may or may not be relevant. Are the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers related to the 6th Inniskilling Dragoons? I know the time frame is different but I am interested in learning more about the 6th Inniskilling Dragoons.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: familymystery on October 02, 2012, 02:14:17 PM
Hi there, i have just discovered this forum.  I am currently looking for info on my ancestor, a Daniel Little, 9th battalion Royal inniskilling fusiliers.  He was from leckpatrick in county tyrone and died in france in 1917.  I believe he was a lance-corporal at the time of his death...  If any one has any information on him that would be smashing.  Apparently his medical card is online, however, i cannot find it.
 
 ::)
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Post by: maura on October 02, 2012, 02:39:48 PM
Hi there, i have just discovered this forum.  I am currently looking for info on my ancestor, a Daniel Little, 9th battalion Royal inniskilling fusiliers.  He was from leckpatrick in county tyrone and died in france in 1917.  I believe he was a lance-corporal at the time of his death...  If any one has any information on him that would be smashing.  Apparently his medical card is online, however, i cannot find it.
 
 ::)
  UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about Daniel Little   
Name:Daniel LittleBirth Place:Leckpatrick, Co. TyroneResidence:LeckpatrickDeath Date:20 Nov 1917Death Location:France & FlandersEnlistment Location:StrabaneRank:SergeantRegiment:Royal Inniskilling FusiliersBattalion:9th BattalionNumber:13654Type of Casualty:Killed in actionTheatre of War:Western European TheatreComments:M.M.
 
 
 
 
 LITTLE, DANIEL  Rank: Serjeant Service No: 13654 Date of Death: 20/11/1917 Age: 26 Regiment/Service: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers   9th Bn.  Awards: M M Panel Reference Panel 5 and 6. Memorial CAMBRAI MEMORIAL, LOUVERVAL Additional Information: Bronze Medal for Valour, 3rd Cl. (Italy). Son of the late George and Jane Little, of Leckpatrick, Ballymajorry, Strabane, Co. Tyrone.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Tipperdarby on October 03, 2012, 05:23:14 AM
I am new to this site and am very excited to see this thread. My paternal grandfather apparently was in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers. I have a picture of him in uniform taken in Lahore India around 1902.
If someone tells me how to do it I'll post the picture. His name was John O'Neill from the Dock area of Belfast. Any info would be greatly appreciated. I also have a brass cigarette box of his that was given to the troops Christmas 1914. I have found him and my Granny and 3 kids in the 1911 census but not in the 1901 census,perhaps he was in India? My Dad was the youngest and was orphaned at the age of 7 so he knew very little about his parents. I do have proof of his interment in Milltown on March 24 1931 at the age of 55.
Also Delane, my Dad's sister Elizabeth was married to a Johnny Mullan from the Dock area. She died after being burned in a fire and was buried Mar 6 1937 at the age of only 22. They had 2 children, my cousins Lily and John who still live in Belfast. I'm wondering if your ggranda and their granda is the same person?
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on October 03, 2012, 10:33:50 AM
I am new to this site and am very excited to see this thread. My paternal grandfather apparently was in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers. I have a picture of him in uniform taken in Lahore India around 1902.
If someone tells me how to do it I'll post the picture. His name was John O'Neill from the Dock area of Belfast. Any info would be greatly appreciated. I also have a brass cigarette box of his that was given to the troops Christmas 1914. I have found him and my Granny and 3 kids in the 1911 census but not in the 1901 census,perhaps he was in India? My Dad was the youngest and was orphaned at the age of 7 so he knew very little about his parents. I do have proof of his interment in Milltown on March 24 1931 at the age of 55.
Also Delane, my Dad's sister Elizabeth was married to a Johnny Mullan from the Dock area. She died after being burned in a fire and was buried Mar 6 1937 at the age of only 22. They had 2 children, my cousins Lily and John who still live in Belfast. I'm wondering if your ggranda and their granda is the same person?

Could you give a little bit more info, where was he born and who was his parents or wife to narrow the search, there alot of John O'Neill's
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Tipperdarby on October 05, 2012, 08:45:19 PM

Could you give a little bit more info, where was he born and who was his parents or wife to narrow the search, there alot of John O'Neill's
Thank you Maura, I called 2 of my older cousins in Belfast and they do not know the names of his parents. His wife was Elizabeth Ramsey born in 1880. I tried a Roots Ireland website and found 2 entries that could have been her but the payment page doesn't appear to be working?? Do you have any recommendations of a good site for me to try? John O'Neill was born in 1876 in Belfast and I assume it was in the Docks area. In the 1911 census they lived at #6 Sidney Street (Court, Antrim) Do you have any idea where that was?
Thank you so much for any help you can give me.
 
Eileen
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Post by: maura on October 06, 2012, 01:12:16 PM
This is his marriage
 
Date Of Marriage 23/04/1908 ST. BRIGID'S R.C. BELFAST
Husband JOHN ONEILL
Address UNION WORK HOUSE
Occupation LABOURER
Age FA
Marital Status Bachelor
Father HUGH CAMPBELL
Father Occupation BUTCHER
Wife ELIZABETH RAMSEY
Address UNION WORK HOUSE
Age FA
Marital Status Spinster
Father JOHN RAMSEY
Father Occupation BLACKSMITH
Witnesses WILLIAM BROUNE & MARY MULLAN
HUSBAND'S FATHER DECEASED.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on October 06, 2012, 01:40:53 PM
 British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
about John Oneill   
Name:John OneillEstimated Birth Year:abt 1876Age at enlistment:43Birth Parish:ShankillBirth County:AntrimDocument Year:1919Regimental Number:205716Regiment Name:Royal army medical corpsNumber of images:4
Wife Elizabeth Ramsey
4 Bradford sq, off Tomb street Belfast
Children
John, Arthur, Elizabeth
 
If you want the 4 images pm me your email address
 
 
I'm not 100% sure where Sidney street was, but probably around Carrickhill or lower Shankill
 
Found 5 childrens births for this couple
John 1909
Francis 1911
Arthur 1912
Elizabeth 1915
Gerald 1917
 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on October 06, 2012, 01:49:16 PM
This is him too using an alas
 
  British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
about John O'neill   
Name:John O'neill
[John Kennedy] Estimated Birth Year:abt 1877Age at enlistment:32Birth Parish:ShankillBirth County:AntrimDocument Year:1909Regimental Number:1144Regiment Name:R A M B Spec ReserveNumber of images:9
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Tipperdarby on October 06, 2012, 08:35:57 PM
This is him too using an alas
 
 Thank you so much Maura. We have a mystery on our hands re the 2 older children. If I get their DOB would you be able to find their birth certificates?
 
 Also what's with the alias I wonder?
The only info on those papers of his time with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers is where his service number is quoted 5586 and that he was discharged on termination of engagement 16 ?9 1909. There is no date of birth on any of those papers
Again, thank you. My sisters and I are all agog today!!
Eileen
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Post by: maura on October 07, 2012, 12:55:57 PM
There's only 2 births for a Winfired Oneill coming up on ancestryireland and neither has a father John. 1897 father Daniel & 1906 father Hugh. There is birth registration for a Winifred Oneill, but you would have to view them in GRONI
 
 
 
Winifred O'Neill
Apr-May-Jun 1905
Belfast
 
Winifred O'Neill
Apr-May-Jun 1906
Belfast
 
Winifred O'Neill
Jul-Aug-Sep 1904
Downpatrick
 
Winifred O'Neill
Apr-May-Jun 1908
Downpatrick
 
Winnie O'Neill
Apr-May-Jun 1902
Belfast
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Tipperdarby on October 07, 2012, 04:05:02 PM
Thanks Maura, I had an email from my cousin in Australia and her Mother was born at the Jubilee Maternity Hospital July 10 1904 and Baptized at St Brigid's Catholic Church July 15 1904. She died Oct 20 1986 in Perth W.Australia.
 
What is GRONI?
Thanks for all your help.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on October 07, 2012, 04:14:05 PM
The Jubilee hospital didn't open until 1935, it was built on the old infirmary of the workhouse. GRONI is the general registry office N. Ireland
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Post by: maura on October 07, 2012, 04:26:24 PM
There registered under Ramsey, mother lizzie, no father listed
 
Joseph Arthur 1902
Winifred 1904
 
There 2 other possible children to Elizabeth
David 1905
James 1907
 
No sure about this 1 unknown born 1913, mother Lizzie Ramsey
 
You have to pay to view these full records, either on rootsireland.ie or ancestryireland.com  both have the same information,
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Tipperdarby on October 07, 2012, 04:40:47 PM
Oh thanks Maura. My Dad's oldest siblings are Joseph and Wiinnifred so that has to be them. I'm happy to pay but I tried on Roots Ireland a few days ago and the payment page didn't appear to be working.I'll try again.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: delane on October 07, 2012, 06:17:48 PM
I am new to this site and am very excited to see this thread. My paternal grandfather apparently was in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers. I have a picture of him in uniform taken in Lahore India around 1902.
If someone tells me how to do it I'll post the picture. His name was John O'Neill from the Dock area of Belfast. Any info would be greatly appreciated. I also have a brass cigarette box of his that was given to the troops Christmas 1914. I have found him and my Granny and 3 kids in the 1911 census but not in the 1901 census,perhaps he was in India? My Dad was the youngest and was orphaned at the age of 7 so he knew very little about his parents. I do have proof of his interment in Milltown on March 24 1931 at the age of 55.
Also Delane, my Dad's sister Elizabeth was married to a Johnny Mullan from the Dock area. She died after being burned in a fire and was buried Mar 6 1937 at the age of only 22. They had 2 children, my cousins Lily and John who still live in Belfast. I'm wondering if your ggranda and their granda is the same person?
..
,,hello,Tipperdarby,..my ggfather was old soldier mullan..john & lilys,gfather.. there father john, had a sister called julia mullan,my granny..i have tried for many years,to find info, of old soldier mullan,being in the [boer war 1899-1902]..i am wondering now did he join up in 1st ww..1914-18.. its possible,?...keep in touch..delane.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: iusedtobe16 on October 08, 2012, 03:55:40 PM
IM looking for a malachy morgan born about 1893 from Belfast .i would like   to know when  he joined the fusiliers where and when he died,he was my grandfathers brother i don't know much about him.thanks.  ::)
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Post by: maura on October 08, 2012, 04:01:27 PM
 UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about Malachy Morgan   
Name:Malachy MorganBirth Place:Shankhill, Co. AntrimDeath Date:10 Mar 1916Death Location:France & FlandersEnlistment Location:BelfastRank:PrivateRegiment:Royal Inniskilling FusiliersBattalion:7th BattalionNumber:13746Type of Casualty:Died of woundsTheatre of War:Western European Theatre

 
MORGAN, M  Rank: Private Service No: 13746 Date of Death: 10/03/1916 Regiment/Service: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers   7th Bn.  Grave Reference I. B. 11. Cemetery PHILOSOPHE BRITISH CEMETERY, MAZINGARBE Additional Information: 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Tipperdarby on October 10, 2012, 12:33:56 AM
This is my paternal grandfather John O'Neill. The picture was taken in Lahoare India around 1901/2. His service number was 5586.I'm not sure how to find any other info.
(http://i48.tinypic.com/29usjo3.jpg)
 
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Post by: maura on October 10, 2012, 12:58:29 PM
Around 60% of ww1 records where destroyed, any army records before this date are on findmypast, I have lookup all John O'neill's plus Kennedy & Campbell and there no record for him with the number 5586, I also check incase he give the  wrong number, but still nothing that fits your man.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: camshi on October 11, 2012, 11:12:44 AM
while working on family tree I found  a Prvt Robert Thomas Taylor  3718
                                                         1st Btln 23 Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
                                                         Killed  at the Somme 3rd July 1916
whom I think was my grt Uncle .
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on October 11, 2012, 11:21:14 AM
Name:Robert TaylorBirth Place:Drumglass, Co. TyroneDeath Date:3 Jul 1916Death Location:France & FlandersEnlistment Location:DungannonRank:PrivateRegiment:Royal Inniskilling FusiliersBattalion:1st BattalionNumber:3718Type of Casualty:Died of woundsTheatre of War:Western European Theatre
 
 
 TAYLOR, ROBERT THOMAS  Rank: Private Service No: 3718 Date of Death: 03/07/1916 Age: 23 Regiment/Service: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers   1st Bn.  Grave Reference I. F. 1. Cemetery GEZAINCOURT COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION Additional Information: Son of William and Rachel Taylor, of Dungannon, Co. Tyrone.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Rollem on October 13, 2012, 10:02:39 PM
My grandfather William John Sterling enlisted with the Fusiliers on 7/8/15. His number was 25236.
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Post by: maura on October 14, 2012, 03:31:55 PM
 British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
about Wm John Sterling   
Name:Wm John SterlingRegiment or Corps:Royal Irish Rifles, Royal Inniskilling FusiliersRegimental Number:13644, 25236

address 102 Wigram Road, Forrest Lodge, Sidney NSW, applied for his silver badge 1928
 
  UK, Silver War Badge Records, 1914-1920
about Wm. John Sterling   
Name:Wm. John SterlingDischarge Unit:Royal Inniskilling FusiliersRegiment Number:25236Rank:Pte.Badge Number:104323Unit:Infantry (Dublin)Piece:3010List Number:B 0001-0300Record Group:WORecord Class:329
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Post by: debvent on October 15, 2012, 03:51:09 PM
ive found this info on my great grandad ANDERS, JOSEPHRank:PrivateService No:18717Date of Death:01/07/1916Regiment/Service:Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers 11th Bn.Panel ReferencePier and Face 4 D and 5 B.MemorialTHIEPVAL MEMORIAL
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Post by: maura on October 15, 2012, 03:58:14 PM
ive found this info on my great grandad ANDERS, JOSEPHRank:PrivateService No:18717Date of Death:01/07/1916Regiment/Service:Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers11th Bn.Panel ReferencePier and Face 4 D and 5 B.MemorialTHIEPVAL MEMORIAL

  UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about Joseph Anders   
Name:Joseph AndersBirth Place:Newcastle-on-tyne, DurhamDeath Date:1 Jul 1916Death Location:France & FlandersEnlistment Location:Newcastle-on-tyneRank:PrivateRegiment:Royal Inniskilling FusiliersBattalion:11th BattalionNumber:18717Type of Casualty:Killed in actionTheatre of War:Western European Theatre
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Tipperdarby on October 16, 2012, 03:28:41 AM
Around 60% of ww1 records where destroyed, any army records before this date are on findmypast, I have lookup all John O'neill's plus Kennedy & Campbell and there no record for him with the number 5586, I also check incase he give the  wrong number, but still nothing that fits your man.
Thanks Maura, you really have been incredibly helpful. I got that number from his Army records that you were kind enough to send. Do you have any idea why someone would use an alias?
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on October 16, 2012, 11:14:46 AM
Thanks Maura, you really have been incredibly helpful. I got that number from his Army records that you were kind enough to send. Do you have any idea why someone would use an alias?

Sorry I've no idea why he would of  used an alias.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: MaryMc on October 20, 2012, 09:31:02 PM
Hi all,

My Grandad served with the Skins in WW1.
I have photos of him in uniform after the war in India and Egypt.
I believe he left the Army around 1926 or so.
From 1932 - 1940 he was a B Special.

How do I find what battalion his was in, in WW1? or anything else about his war service?

His name was

Robert McCorkell.
Born Nov 21st 1897 (although I believe that, as so many did, he added a year or 2 to his age when signing up) in Ballymagowan, Londonderry.
He was the son of Robert and Ellen McCorkell and in 1911 they lived in New St, Londonderry.
Thanks!

MaryMc
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: city hall on October 22, 2012, 01:21:22 PM
LARGEY, J Rank:PrivateService No:23826Date of Death:01/07/1916Regiment/Service:Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers 1st Bn.  Hi all, can anyone supply any additional information regarding the above soldier?
Thanks.Paul.

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Post by: maura on October 22, 2012, 01:29:01 PM
LARGEY, J  Rank: Private Service No: 23826 Date of Death: 01/07/1916 Regiment/Service: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers   1st Bn.  Grave Reference C. 42. Cemetery Y RAVINE CEMETERY, BEAUMONT-HAMEL Additional Information: 
 
  UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about John Largey   
Name:John LargeyDeath Date:1 Jul 1916Death Location:France & FlandersEnlistment Location:Newcastle-on-tyneRank:PrivateRegiment:Royal Inniskilling FusiliersBattalion:1st BattalionNumber:23826Type of Casualty:Killed in actionTheatre of War:Western European Theatre
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: city hall on October 22, 2012, 02:39:19 PM
Hi Maura, as always, thanks for the prompt reply.

Paul.
Title: Re: J. Largey 23826 Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: merseyperson on October 27, 2012, 02:39:11 AM
LARGEY, J Rank:PrivateService No:23826Date of Death:01/07/1916Regiment/Service:Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers 1st Bn.  Hi all, can anyone supply any additional information regarding the above soldier?
Thanks.Paul.

Registration event: Death

Name: LARGEY, John
Unit: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
Rank: Private
Number: 23826
Year: 1916
Volume : I.74
Page: 33 
Record source: GRO War Death Army Other Ranks (1914 to 1921)

You can get a copy of his death certificate from the UK GRO = General Register Office

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Was he born in England or in Ulster. ?

There are only 3 possible candidates in Ulster, 2 in Belfast and 1 in Armagh, and only  1 in England, in Cheshire.

 Nec Aspera Terrant

Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: merseyperson on October 27, 2012, 03:37:20 AM
Hi all,

My Grandad served with the Skins in WW1.
I have photos of him in uniform after the war in India and Egypt.
I believe he left the Army around 1926 or so.
From 1932 - 1940 he was a B Special.

How do I find what battalion his was in, in WW1? or anything else about his war service?

His name was

Robert McCorkell.
Born Nov 21st 1897 (although I believe that, as so many did, he added a year or 2 to his age when signing up) in Ballymagowan, Londonderry.
He was the son of Robert and Ellen McCorkell and in 1911 they lived in New St, Londonderry.
Thanks!

MaryMc

He is not showing up on the lists of WW1 campaign medal awardees, but about one third of WW1 military records were destroyed in a fire in London.

However, are you sure that your details are correct and that you have the correct person. ?

Because, there is a very similar record for a person who was killed in WW1.

McCORKELL, ROBERT
Rank: Lance Corporal
Service No: 9667
Date of Death: 26/08/1914
Regiment/Service: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
2nd Bn.
Additional Information: None
Memorial Panel Reference - none listed
Memorial LA FERTE-SOUS-JOUARRE MEMORIAL
Country: France
Locality: Seine-et-Marne

Your best bet would probably be to follow this up with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers Regimental Museum.

http://www.inniskillingsmuseum.com/ (http://www.inniskillingsmuseum.com/)

 Nec Aspera Terrant
Title: Re: John O'Neill - Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers - Lahore
Post by: merseyperson on October 27, 2012, 05:25:55 AM
This is my paternal grandfather John O'Neill. The picture was taken in Lahoare India around 1901/2. His service number was 5586.I'm not sure how to find any other info.
(http://i48.tinypic.com/29usjo3.jpg)

If he was in India at that date,1901/1902 then he was in the 2nd Battalion.

The 1st battalion were in Ireland until they went to South Africa after the start of the Second Boer War in October 1899, after the end of that war they went back to Ireland, they didn't go to India until 1913.

The 2nd battalion was in India from 1888, where they fought in a border war campaign in 1897, they also served in Burma during that posting.

They did not leave the far east until they were posted South Africa to serve in the Second Boer War which ended in May 1902 but they weren't sent there until late in the war, after which they were posted to Egypt from 1902 until 1907.

He's wearing a chevron on his right sleeve indicating a rank of lance corporal.
He's wearing an inverted chevron = good conduct , on his left sleeve indicating 2 years of good conduct.

Have you any idea how many John O'neills there were in that and in other regiments. ?

You need to beef that up a bit with a date  and place of birth, or even death, or a marriage name and or year.

Or else follow it up at the Regimental Museum.

http://www.inniskillingsmuseum.com/

Nec Aspera Terrant
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: merseyperson on October 27, 2012, 05:44:35 AM
Thanks Maura, you really have been incredibly helpful. I got that number from his Army records that you were kind enough to send. Do you have any idea why someone would use an alias?

I don't know what all this business of supposed aliases and service numbers was about, but perhaps it might be relevant to that situation, whatever it was, to bear in mind that until after the end of WW1 British Army service numbers were not unique to any single individual or unit.

So for example, 6 different soldiers in six different regiments could simultaneously have the same service number.

In addition to which, if he was transferred to a different unit, he would be given a new service number, and he might move between several units.

For example, if he was wounded, he might serve in a support or training unit until he was fit enough to return to his old combat unit.

Which is partly why I said to you elsewhere that you need to make this more specific with a date and or place of birth, especially so with a name that is not only common in general, but is common even within his own regiment.

An enlistment record for a man born in Armagh cannot be the enlistment record for a man born in Belfast.
Title: Re: John O'Neill - Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers - Lahore
Post by: Tipperdarby on October 27, 2012, 06:38:57 AM

John O'Neill married Elizabeth Ramsey on April 23 1908 at St Brigid's Church in Belfast.I have been unable to find a birth for him yet. I have details of his interment at Milltown Cemetery on Mar 24 1931.I am making the assumption that he died a day or two prior.
Maura very kindly sent me copies of his Army records and on some pages the name was John Kennedy,stroked out and alias John O'Neill written in. Very confusing.....He was in the Royal Army Medical Corps from Sept 1909 until Aug 1920 from what I can understand from these records.
My Dad was orphaned when he was 7 so he did not know much about his parents.
I really appreciate your interest and input Merseyside.Thank you so much.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: welder01 on October 27, 2012, 09:21:21 AM


My Grand Father Samuel Irvine husband of Sarah Irvine nee McLarnon was in the Great War.
My Father told me he died of gas.

I don't know where or when.
Samuel Irvine was the son of Francis Irvine.
Samuel Irvine was a docker.

Based on this flimsily details can any forum member tell me when and where he died?

Samuel lived in Belfast in Osborne Street

Thank you
Title: Re: Samuel Irvine 13314 - Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: merseyperson on October 27, 2012, 09:47:30 AM

My Grand Father Samuel Irvine husband of Sarah Irvine nee McLarnon was in the Great War.
My Father told me he died of gas.

I don't know where or when.
Samuel Irvine was the son of Francis Irvine.
Samuel Irvine was a docker.

Based on this flimsily details can any forum member tell me when and where he died?

Samuel lived in Belfast in Osborne Street

Thank you
IRVINE, S
Rank: Private
Service No: 13314
Date of Death: 01/07/1916
Regiment/Service: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers 11th Bn = Battalion
Grave Reference II. A. 10.
Cemetery CONNAUGHT CEMETERY, THIEPVAL
Country: France
Locality:  Somme

Additional Information: None

Also got a death cert with similar details but a different service number of 13451

I think it's the same person, he may have served in two units hence two service numbers.
If it is him then he was born in  Shankhill, Co. Antrim and enlisted in Banbridge.
I'll check that out later.
Title: Re: John O'Neill - Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers - Lahore
Post by: merseyperson on October 27, 2012, 10:07:34 AM
John O'Neill married Elizabeth Ramsey on April 23 1908 at St Brigid's Church in Belfast.I have been unable to find a birth for him yet. I have details of his interment at Milltown Cemetery on Mar 24 1931.I am making the assumption that he died a day or two prior.
Maura very kindly sent me copies of his Army records and on some pages the name was John Kennedy,stroked out and alias John O'Neill written in. Very confusing.....He was in the Royal Army Medical Corps from Sept 1909 until Aug 1920 from what I can understand from these records.
My Dad was orphaned when he was 7 so he did not know much about his parents.
I really appreciate your interest and input Merseyside.Thank you so much.

Apply to...

http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/index/do-it-online/government-citizens-and-rights-online.htm
For his death and marriage certs, that will get his age, and other details which will get his birth cert, and that will get you his parents.

Also check the 1901 and 1908 censuses see if they are listed, be advised, census dates and ages are often approximations.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

In England the GRO = general register Office has a register of orphans which only the government can access, ask the Ulster GRO if they have a similar register.

Contact Milltown Cemetery and get the grave plot number.
http://www.milltowncemetery.com/contactus

See if anyone on here can view the headstone for you or ask the cemetery to give you the details.

I saw a recent post on here that said that Milltown cemetery records were about to be put online for free.

I have to go out now, I will check the military stuff later today.

Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: welder01 on October 27, 2012, 10:14:08 AM


thank you for your prompt reply.
I have a problem with it.
My Father Samuel Galway Irvine was born 15/10/1918
So it can't be the same one  ???
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: welder01 on October 27, 2012, 12:57:14 PM


Samuel G Irvine born 1874 was the son of Francis Irvine if this helps
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: MaryMc on October 28, 2012, 12:42:06 AM
Hi there,
Thanks for taking the time to treply, it's appreciated.

Yes, I'm sure I have the right person - definatley not the one you mentioned who died in WW1.

My Robert died in the mid 1970's and I remember him.

I do know that he got the British and Victory medals, I saw them many times, as they were in the possesion of my Dad (until the mid 1990's, when he divorced his second wife and she biffed the medals in the bin behind his back)

I will do as you suggested and follow up with the museum. -thanks for the link.

Cheers
MaryMc


He is not showing up on the lists of WW1 campaign medal awardees, but about one third of WW1 military records were destroyed in a fire in London.

However, are you sure that your details are correct and that you have the correct person. ?

Because, there is a very similar record for a person who was killed in WW1.

McCORKELL, ROBERT
Rank: Lance Corporal
Service No: 9667
Date of Death: 26/08/1914
Regiment/Service: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
2nd Bn.
Additional Information: None
Memorial Panel Reference - none listed
Memorial LA FERTE-SOUS-JOUARRE MEMORIAL
Country: France
Locality: Seine-et-Marne

Your best bet would probably be to follow this up with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers Regimental Museum.

 Nec Aspera Terrant
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on October 28, 2012, 12:28:15 PM

My Grand Father Samuel Irvine husband of Sarah Irvine nee McLarnon was in the Great War.
My Father told me he died of gas.

I don't know where or when.
Samuel Irvine was the son of Francis Irvine.
Samuel Irvine was a docker.

Based on this flimsily details can any forum member tell me when and where he died?

Samuel lived in Belfast in Osborne Street

Thank you

   
Name of deceased Samuel Irvine  Last place of residence Purdysburn Mental Hosp 21 Arosa Pde  Age65 Years Sex  Date of death1 March 1940 Date of burial5 March 1940 Cemetery
City Cemetery - Glenalina Extension (http://www.belfastcity.gov.uk/citycemetery/index.asp)
Grave section and number
S1 468 (https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/BurialSearch/(S(fotr1ael23c24o45aiwngy45))/BurialSearch.aspx?GraveSection=S1&GraveNumber=468&CemeteryName=City Cemetery - Glenalina Extension)
Burial TypeEarth Burial

   
Name of deceased Sarah Margaret Irvine  Last place of residence 21 Arosa Parade  Age56 Years Sex  Date of death13 January 1941 Date of burial15 January 1941 Cemetery
City Cemetery - Glenalina Extension (http://www.belfastcity.gov.uk/citycemetery/index.asp)
Grave section and number
S1 468 (https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/BurialSearch/(S(fotr1ael23c24o45aiwngy45))/BurialSearch.aspx?GraveSection=S1&GraveNumber=468&CemeteryName=City Cemetery - Glenalina Extension)
Burial TypeEarth Burial
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: welder01 on October 28, 2012, 05:22:00 PM


Thank you Maura.
Those dates are about the time Father left NI and joined Wimpey working on the mainland.

If I owe you any monies to cover the cost of your search let me know and I will cover it.

Thank you sincerely
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on October 28, 2012, 05:24:03 PM

Thank you Maura.
Those dates are about the time Father left NI and joined Wimpey working on the mainland.

If I owe you any monies to cover the cost of your search let me know and I will cover it.

Thank you sincerely

The records are free on http://www.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialrecords/ (http://www.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialrecords/)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: city hall on October 28, 2012, 05:39:17 PM
Hi Merseyperson, thanks for taking the time to reply and thanks very much for supplying me with the details required to order John Largey's death cert. I really appreciate that. Going ever so slightly off-topic, is there any chance you could do the same for a James Liddy, who was killed in WW1 in 1916. Not the one who served in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers and was from Pinkerton Street, Belfast, but the one who was born in Belfast and enlisted in Dublin in the Royal Dublin Fusiliers. He also may be a relative but I can't find any additional information to that supplied on the CWGC website.

Thanks again,
Paul.
Title: Re: James Liddy - WW1 casualty
Post by: merseyperson on October 29, 2012, 01:07:35 PM
Hi Merseyperson, thanks for taking the time to reply and thanks very much for supplying me with the details required to order John Largey's death cert. I really appreciate that. Going ever so slightly off-topic, is there any chance you could do the same for a James Liddy, who was killed in WW1 in 1916. Not the one who served in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers and was from Pinkerton Street, Belfast, but the one who was born in Belfast and enlisted in Dublin in the Royal Dublin Fusiliers. He also may be a relative but I can't find any additional information to that supplied on the CWGC website.

Thanks again, Paul.
To user city hall - in reply to message number 267
Since this thread is about the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers, and, as you correctly say there are 2 casualties listed for James Liddy, one in the Inniskilling Regiment and one in the Royal Dublin Fusiliers.
So I will list the details for both of them, both to avoid any future confusion, and to provide the info for anyone who may later look on here for the James Liddy who served in the Inniskillings.
         
From the Commonwealth War Graves Commission - www.cwgc.org

Private LIDDY, JAMES       Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers - Service number 3418
died  29/08/1915   aged  20    Panel 97 to 101. HELLES MEMORIAL - Turkey (including Gallipoli)

Additional Information:  Son of Hugh and Susanah Liddy, of 16, Pinkerton St., Belfast.

Further information from a different source - Born Shankhill County Antrim - Enlisted in Belfast
Served in the 1st Battalion. - Died of wounds - Theatre of war: At Sea - which probably means that he was buried at sea, as were many of the soldiers who were killed on land in Gallipoli, it may also mean that he died at sea on board a hospital ship after having been wounded on land.
   
Registration event: Death
Name: LIDDY, James  - Unit: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers - Rank: Private - Number: 3418
Year: 1915 - Volume : I.74 - Page: 26 
Record source: GRO War Death Army Other Ranks (1914 to 1921)
Death Certificate obtainable from UK General Registration Office www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
                   
From the Commonwealth War Graves Commission - www.cwgc.org
 Private LIDDY, JAMES    Royal Dublin Fusiliers   Service number 24726
died 06/09/1916  age unlisted
THIEPVAL MEMORIAL Country: France Locality: Somme Pier and Face 16 C.
Additional Information: None listed
Further information from a different source - Born Belfast - Enlisted in Dublin
Served in the 9th Battalion - Killed in action - Theatre of war: France & Flanders
     
Registration event: Death
Name: LIDDY, James - Unit: Royal Dublin Fusiliers - Rank: Private - Number: 24726 - Year: 1916
Volume : I.76 - Page: 468
Record source: GRO War Death Army Other Ranks (1914 to 1921)
Death Certificate obtainable from UK General Registration Office www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
                   
Regarding birth/death/marriage certificates for BMD events in Northern Ireland, and in what is now the Republic of Ireland, but which was a part of Britain up to 1921 when  Home Rule was established, and Northern Ireland was also created in 1921.
For Northern Ireland...
Birth certs   http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/how-to-order-birth-certificates
Death certs
http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/index/do-it-online/government-citizens-and-rights-online/order-a-death-certificate.htm
Marriage certs
http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/index/do-it-online/government-citizens-and-rights-online/order-a-marriage-certificate.htm
For the Republic of Ireland   http://www.groireland.ie/
Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers Regimental Museum - http://www.inniskillingsmuseum.com/
See also for both regiments and related topics...http://royalirishrangers.co.uk/links.html
For the Dublin Fusiliers see...
http://www.royaldublinfusiliers.com/
http://www.northeastmedals.co.uk/british_regiment/irish/royal_dublin_fusiliers.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Dublin_Fusiliers
http://www.1914-1918.net/dubs.htm
There are 22 James Liddy names on the 1911 Irish census, he's almost certainly one of those.
About 12 of those can be excluded because they were either too old, or too young, to have served in WW1, so that leaves about 10 possibles.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
You " THINK " that the Dublin Fusilier " MAY " be a relative !, what you need to be doing is starting from  certain, known and proveable information, and working forwards/backwards via the various BMD certs, and connecting up the dots as you go, and somewhere along the line your cert info should collide with some known people on the 1901/1911 censuses.
BTW - Treat census dates/ages as approximations, they were often arrived at by estimation by the census enumerators, and they can be out by a year or two.
Anyway, if you do find, i.e. PROVE that he is your relative, email me, I have his medal record card.
The Officer Commanding Records requested permission to dispose of Pte. Liddy's ( RDF ) campaign medals on 7th December 1922, which suggests that they may not have been claimed by the soldier's next of kin.
They won't issue replacements for medals awarded before 1920, but perhaps they will still issue medals that were never claimed, and if you can prove kinship, you might be able to claim them.
Ask the people below about that matter.
Write to the Armed Services Medal Office at Ministry of Defence Medal Office, AFPAA (JPAC), Building 250, RAF Innsworth, GL3 1HW. Tel: =44 (0)800 085 3600
Title: Re: John O'Neill - Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers - Lahore
Post by: merseyperson on October 29, 2012, 09:16:56 PM
John O'Neill married Elizabeth Ramsey on April 23 1908 at St Brigid's Church in Belfast.I have been unable to find a birth for him yet. I have details of his interment at Milltown Cemetery on Mar 24 1931.I am making the assumption that he died a day or two prior.
Maura very kindly sent me copies of his Army records and on some pages the name was John Kennedy,stroked out and alias John O'Neill written in. Very confusing.....He was in the Royal Army Medical Corps from Sept 1909 until Aug 1920 from what I can understand from these records.
My Dad was orphaned when he was 7 so he did not know much about his parents.I really appreciate your interest and input Merseyside.Thank you so much.
To user Tipperdarby - or should I perhaps say...to poster Tipperdarby...user makes it sound as if I'm addressing a dope fiend. :):)
Re message numbers 255...256...257
Re, and further to, my comments about the 2 Battalions of the Inniskillings in India and in the Boer War in South Africa...take a shufti at the following website...it may interest and perhaps inform you, and you might even get some pics if you're lucky, I haven't had time to study it in detail, but it has a lot of info, BTW, if you do spot a pic that interests you, click on it and it will enlarge, then right click on it and you can download and save it.
http://www.angloboerwar.com/unit-information/imperial-units
http://www.angloboerwar.com/unit-information/imperial-units/563-royal-inniskilling-fusiliers
BTW - For that information above, you can indirectly thank a guy called Marty in New Jersey who right about now is probably getting his head blown off by the American Hurricane !, and I believe that we're in for a much much milder version of that tomorrow, but anyway, it's always rainy and windy over this side, especially in the summer, which we don't seem to get anymore. :):)
In case you happen to see a mention of a J. O'Neill in the Inniskillings who was wounded at Colenso in 1899, that's not your guy, he was a sergeant number 663 in the 1st Battalion.
BTW - British army units serving abroad were listed on the England census, at least they were on the 1911 census, I'll take a look when I have time, he might be on the 1901 England census in Egypt, I'll also check on the Medical Corps stuff, a pity he wasn't a medical officer, I could give you chapter and verse on all of them from the mid 19th century up to the early 20th century.
Speaking of censuses and finding his age/date of birth etcetera, I have very briefly seen some earlier posts of yours on this topic, haven't had time to view them in detail,but didn't you say something about finding him on an Irish census. ?
If so, that is a good clue to his age/DOB, although census ages and dates were often estimated and can often be out by a year or two, nevertheless, it narrows it down, and if you have mention of his parents, that should be enough to get his birth cert from the N.I. GRO, and that can be used to cross check any of his military records.
I'm finding it really difficult to keep track of, and to navigate amongst,  even a few topics on this thread, with so many messages about even a few people and quotes and re-quotes, and messages spread across several pages, and interspersed with other people's messages, and the thread is so  longggggggg.
It's taking me all my time and effort even just to keep track of my own posts. !
I wish that the forum owners could or would make the forum sub threaded, it would be so much easier to separate and follow individual sub topics within the main message thread.

Title: Re: John O'Neill - Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers - Lahore
Post by: Tipperdarby on October 29, 2012, 09:48:02 PM
To user Tipperdarby - or should I perhaps say...to poster Tipperdarby...user makes it sound as if I'm addressing a dope fiend. :) :)
Re message numbers 255...256...257
Merseyside, thank you for everything. I am very new to genealogy. (Today we are in Oregon, on our way from Vancouver Island to Phoenix Arizona for the winter. We will arrive on Nov 1 so I will have more time next week to delve into this stuff some more )
I think John O'Neill was born in 1876/77. The 1911 census has him as being 35 and he was 55 according to the record I have of his interment on Mar 24 1931.I do have the plot number in Milltown Cemetery it is 66A and was issued Sept 1929. His wife Elizabeth was interred on Oct 8 1929. I can not find him in the 1901 census.
He married my grandmother Elizabeth Ramsey on April 23 1908 at St Brigid's Church Maura found this info for me. His Father is listed as Hugh Campbell (deceased) I was unable to find this record myself on ancestryireland.ie  Another piece of interesting info (sad to me though)is that the address at that time for both of my grandparents is the Workhouse on the Lisburn Road.
Thanks to Marty in NJ and I hope he is ok. Thanks to you of course and to Maura who has been a wonderful resource.
 
Eileen
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: city hall on October 30, 2012, 12:18:11 PM
Reply to Post 268
Hi Merseyperson.
Thank you for your reply to my off-topic request for information concerning James Liddy of the Royal Dublin Fusiliers.At the risk of repeating myself, I appreciate you taking the time to investigate and reply. To avoid submitting another off-topic post on this Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers thread, I propose starting a new thread on this genealogy forum requesting information on how much detail appears on a death cert issued for a soldier who died in WW1. I would appreciate you reading it and seeing if you can help.
Thanks again,
Paul.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: welder01 on October 30, 2012, 03:59:01 PM


Thank you again Merseyperson and Maura for your help.

My Father Samuel Galway Irvine had told me his Father,my GF ,Samuel Irvine had died as a result of gas in the Great War WW1 Whereas it seems he survived  the war by 22 years and died in hospital in unknown circumstances.

Whatever the cause he was no less my Grand Father.

Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: delane on November 11, 2012, 03:36:55 PM
hi,guys, looking for info of Private JOSEPH DARCY..[SERVED AS DAWSON].royal irish fusiliers. who died 6th feb 1918. service no 21051..is there any info in any news papers.plz. Also, is there any Records of injuried soldiers, being taken to [DUDLEY RD HOSPITAL IN BIRMINGHAM] in WW1.. many thanks..delane.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Egsyblfc on November 12, 2012, 10:32:15 PM
HI
 
 My late father served with this regiment Crawford Graham born 13 11 1927 in Carrick I know he went to India around 1945 but I dont know much else I would love some information on him if anyone could help.

 Many thanks
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on November 13, 2012, 10:39:13 AM
hi,guys, looking for info of Private JOSEPH DARCY..[SERVED AS DAWSON].royal irish fusiliers. who died 6th feb 1918. service no 21051..is there any info in any news papers.plz. Also, is there any Records of injuried soldiers, being taken to [DUDLEY RD HOSPITAL IN BIRMINGHAM] in WW1.. many thanks..delane.

Are you sure his name was Joseph, as there a John Dawson coming up with that reg, & numberIreland, Casualties of World War I, 1914-1918 (http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1633&enc=1)
about John Dawson
Name:John DawsonRegiment:Royal Irish Fusiliers, 2nd BattRegiment Number:See ImageRank:See ImageDeath Date:6 Feb 1918Death Place:HomeBirth Place:Belfast, Northern Ireland
UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 (http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1543&enc=1)
about John Dawson
Name:John DawsonBirth Place:BelfastDeath Date:6 Feb 1918Death Location:HomeEnlistment (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=UKsoldiersGreatWar&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-d&gsfn=john&gsln=dawson&msddy=1918&dbOnly=_F00027E3%7c_F00027E3_x%2c_F00046D2%7c_F00046D2_x%2c_F00046D8%7c_F00046D8_x%2c_F00046D9%7c_F0#) Location:BelfastRank:PrivateRegiment:Princess Victoria's (Royal Irish Fusiliers)Battalion:2nd BattalionNumber:21051Type of Casualty:Died of woundsTheatre of War:HomeComments:Formerly 2598, Conn, Rangers.
 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on November 13, 2012, 10:42:37 AM
HI
 
 My late father served with this regiment Crawford Graham born 13 11 1927 in Carrick I know he went to India around 1945 but I dont know much else I would love some information on him if anyone could help.

 Many thanks
Only  ww1 & earlier army records are online, you will have to apply to Kew in London for your father records.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Murpheus on November 14, 2012, 09:33:17 AM
Hi everyone. I've happily stumbled across this forum while doing some online research into my Great Grandfather Francis Murphy of Tartaraghan, Portadown. I've already found more than I expected through the online census' & have found his signature on the Ulster Covenant.
 He originally served with the Faughs, we believe he was in South Africa. Service no. 1975, but know nothing more about this stage of his military career. The Census of 1911 has him living in Portadown & listed as retired army. The handed down story then goes that on the outbreak of WW1 he re-enlisted, but due to his age was not sent to the front & instead was sent to be a recruiting/training Sergeant with the Skins. Service no. 25247.
 Sadly the next information we can find is with the war graves commission who have him listed as serving with the 12th Bn. Died in Belfast on 04/01/1917 & buried in Milltown Cemetary. We know that the 12th were sent to help quell the Easter rising in Dublin & think perhaps he made have been wounded there & evacuated to Belfast where he later died of his wounds, but have no hard evidence of this.
I'd really very much appreciate any further information that anyone could find on Francis.

Many Thanks

Murph
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on November 14, 2012, 10:12:08 AM
Hi everyone. I've happily stumbled across this forum while doing some online research into my Great Grandfather Francis Murphy of Tartaraghan, Portadown. I've already found more than I expected through the online census' & have found his signature on the Ulster Covenant.
 He originally served with the Faughs, we believe he was in South Africa. Service no. 1975, but know nothing more about this stage of his military career. The Census of 1911 has him living in Portadown & listed as retired army. The handed down story then goes that on the outbreak of WW1 he re-enlisted, but due to his age was not sent to the front & instead was sent to be a recruiting/training Sergeant with the Skins. Service no. 25247.
 Sadly the next information we can find is with the war graves commission who have him listed as serving with the 12th Bn. Died in Belfast on 04/01/1917 & buried in Milltown Cemetary. We know that the 12th were sent to help quell the Easter rising in Dublin & think perhaps he made have been wounded there & evacuated to Belfast where he later died of his wounds, but have no hard evidence of this.
I'd really very much appreciate any further information that anyone could find on Francis.

Many Thanks

Murph

There's 3 sets of records for Francis Murphy, British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 (http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1114&enc=1)
about Francis Murphy
Name:Francis MurphyEstimated Birth Year:abt 1868Age at enlistment (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-c&gsfn=francis&gsln=murphy&msbpn__ftp=armagh&msddy=1917&uidh=235&msddd=4&msddm=1&pcat=39&h=672624&db=BritishArmy&indiv=1&hovR=1#):18Birth Parish:TartaraghanBirth County:ArmaghDocument Year:1886Regimental Number:1975Regiment Name:Royal Irish FusiliersNumber of images:10
British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 (http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1114&enc=1)
about Francis Murphy
Name:Francis MurphyEstimated Birth Year:abt 1868Age at enlistment (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-c&gsfn=francis&gsln=murphy&msbpn__ftp=armagh&msddy=1917&uidh=235&msddd=4&msddm=1&pcat=39&h=672626&db=BritishArmy&indiv=1#):35Birth Parish:TartaraghanBirth County:ArmaghDocument Year:1903Regimental Number:1975Regiment Name:Royal Irish FusiliersNumber of images:5
British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 (http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1114&enc=1)
about Francis Murphy
Name:Francis MurphyEstimated Birth Year:abt 1871Age at enlistment:43Birth Parish:TartaraghanBirth County:ArmaghDocument Year:1914Regimental Number:11270Regiment Name:R Inns Killing FusiliersNumber of images:4
His wife a Minnie Lewis,
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on November 14, 2012, 10:40:47 AM
MURPHY, FRANCIS
Rank:Lance SerjeantService No:25247Date of Death:04/01/1917Age:52Regiment/Service:Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers 12th Bn. Grave ReferenceScreen Wall. H. 535.CemeteryBELFAST CITY CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of James Murphy, of Tartaraghan, Portadown, Co. Armagh; husband of Minnie Murphy, of Lislasley, Moy, Co. Armagh.

There's doesn't seem to be a medal card for this number, but there is 1 for 11270
He's buried in the City not Milltown, you can pay £1.50 to view the burial record, sometimes it gives the cause of death
Name of deceased Francis Murphy
Last place of residence Military Barracks Belfast
Age 52 Years
Sex
 Date of death 7 January 1917
Date of burial 11 January 1917
Cemetery City Cemetery - Public Ground
 Grave section and number
 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: delane on November 14, 2012, 05:37:12 PM

Are you sure his name was Joseph, as there a John Dawson coming up with that reg, & numberIreland, Casualties of World War I, 1914-1918 (http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1633&enc=1)
about John Dawson
Name:John DawsonRegiment:Royal Irish Fusiliers, 2nd BattRegiment Number:See ImageRank:See ImageDeath Date:6 Feb 1918Death Place:HomeBirth Place:Belfast, Northern Ireland
UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 (http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1543&enc=1)
about John Dawson
Name:John DawsonBirth Place:BelfastDeath Date:6 Feb 1918Death Location:HomeEnlistment (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=UKsoldiersGreatWar&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-d&gsfn=john&gsln=dawson&msddy=1918&dbOnly=_F00027E3%7c_F00027E3_x%2c_F00046D2%7c_F00046D2_x%2c_F00046D8%7c_F00046D8_x%2c_F00046D9%7c_F0#) Location:BelfastRank:PrivateRegiment:Princess Victoria's (Royal Irish Fusiliers)Battalion:2nd BattalionNumber:21051Type of Casualty:Died of woundsTheatre of War:HomeComments:Formerly 2598, Conn, Rangers.

hello,maura,.i don,t know if its the same man,..he served as j dawson,.buried at [brookwood cemtery]..is this the info as your man,.then it could be the same person,??
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on November 15, 2012, 10:09:17 AM
delane do you ever have one thats easy LOL. ancestry could of mistranscribed his name, as the reg. & number match. Now I can't find any Darcy or Dawson in the connaught rangers to match that number, but heres another twist, I did find a Joseph Darcy born c1889 in the parish of St. Peter's Belfast. There 2 sets of records, 1 for the miltia giving his father a Patrick Darcy and mother Eliza, living in George St Newtonard 1906. Chelsea pension Royal Irish Rifles 1907, giving his father Patrick and younger sister Eliza living in 15 Barrack street, according to the street directory 1918 its a Patrick Darcy a dealer living at 3 Park street. 1901 census has the family living in Stanhope street.
 
 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on November 15, 2012, 10:37:43 AM
Even on Ireland's casualties its coming up John DawsonIreland, Casualties of World War I, 1914-1918 (http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1633&enc=1)
about John Dawson
Name:John DawsonRegiment:Royal Irish Fusiliers, 2nd BattRegiment Number:See ImageRank:See ImageDeath Date:6 Feb 1918Death Place:HomeBirth Place:Belfast, Northern Ireland

 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on November 15, 2012, 10:48:47 AM
This Joseph Darcy in the 1911 english census
Person:D ARCY, Joseph
Institution:                 Forts Brockhurst And Elson, FORTS BROCKHURST & ELSON
Military details:Private 1st Roy Irish Rifles Awaiting Discharge At The Di
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on November 15, 2012, 11:13:43 AM
Even on Ireland's casualties its coming up John DawsonIreland, Casualties of World War I, 1914-1918 (http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1633&enc=1)
about John Dawson
Name:John DawsonRegiment:Royal Irish Fusiliers, 2nd BattRegiment Number:See ImageRank:See ImageDeath Date:6 Feb 1918Death Place:HomeBirth Place:Belfast, Northern Ireland

medal card coming up as John Dawson too.British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 (http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1262&enc=1)
about John Dawson
Name:John DawsonRegiment or Corps:Royal Irish FusiliersRegimental Number:21051
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: bigjulies on November 15, 2012, 04:44:22 PM


  my grandfather              Joseph Greenfield served in the 2nd batt royal inniskilling fusiliers old army number 3659 he came from Monkstown but i think he lived at 16 Bann Street Oldpark Road Belfast at time of enlistment he had an Uncle James Greenfield also same address i think he served with the skins as well. Joseph Greenfield medals 1915 Star- British War Medal - Victory Medal - MM LG 12.06.18 Don't Know what that means. I think he was wounded a few times first was 14/12/1915 second time 14/12/1915 Gun Shot Wound To Right Arm to field ambulance 15/12/1915 to england 21/12/1915 no 8 General hospital ship st george promoted  to Cpl 25/07/1916
                                                                                 Isabel
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: hen190782 on November 18, 2012, 08:51:32 PM
Isabel

"MM LG 21/12/1915" means Military Medal listed in London Gazette on 21/12/1915

I have two picture of this man that appeared in the Belfast Evening Telegraph ... one shows him with his left arm in a sling.

PM your email address to me if you want a copy of the pictures.

Regards

Nigel
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: hen190782 on November 18, 2012, 08:55:18 PM
CORRECTION

I have three pictures for men called Greenfield where 16 Bann Street appears in the caption:
Greenfield, James, Private, RInF, 16 Bann Street Belfast, Wounded
Greenfield MM, J, Private, RInF, 16 Bann Street Belfast, Award
Greenfield, J, Private, RInF, Monkstown and 16 Bann Street Belfast, Wounded

The third picture (not great quality) is, I think, the same man as the man in the first picture.

Nigel
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: hen190782 on November 18, 2012, 09:00:43 PM
By the way, I have 1460 pictures of RInF servicemen from the First World War - have a look at the lists using the link in my signature.

Nigel
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: fayemagee on January 17, 2013, 04:21:45 PM
Hello, my father was with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers from 1919 until 1926. I still have his red booklet about the Certificate of Service. Wondered if you are still interested in this information.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: debs1408 on January 24, 2013, 12:57:29 PM
Hi im looking into a relative of mine Ralph Driffill,born 1886,Glanford Brigg,Lincolnshire,England
he joined the Royal Inneskillen Fusilliers in 1907.I think his reg number was 9106,unfortunatly i have no other info on his time with them,so if anyone can help me with this id be most grateful,also does anyone have any idea why he would have joined this regiment,instead of a local regiment to us in Lincolnshire
Am i able to locate his service record,medals,deployments,to have a look at them,
Many thanks
Debbie
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: ms on January 24, 2013, 01:38:05 PM
hello debs1408
 
 here you go very helpfull give them all the information you have they will do there best to give you information
 
ms
 
http://www.inniskillingsmuseum.com/
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on January 24, 2013, 04:05:31 PM
Hi im looking into a relative of mine Ralph Driffill,born 1886,Glanford Brigg,Lincolnshire,England
he joined the Royal Inneskillen Fusilliers in 1907.I think his reg number was 9106,unfortunatly i have no other info on his time with them,so if anyone can help me with this id be most grateful,also does anyone have any idea why he would have joined this regiment,instead of a local regiment to us in Lincolnshire
Am i able to locate his service record,medals,deployments,to have a look at them,
Many thanks
Debbie

I have already put information on this person on the thread you started yesterday
http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,50180.0.html (http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,50180.0.html)
 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: old3wheeler on January 24, 2013, 06:26:29 PM
anyone looking war record info should try alan greveson, s war record site, if he dont know no one will, he give me so much info about my grandfather and his brother who were members of the 14th batt rir (ycv) and also my other grandfather joseph who was with the second batt rir, he is really a wealth of info and  should be able to help, although having no service no,s will make things a bit more difficult for him, its worth a try, regards ken
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: old3wheeler on January 24, 2013, 06:40:22 PM
at 9:25 PM
Dear Ken,
No service records appear to have survived for matthew or John snowden. Their Medal Rolls Index cards showed they were awarded the British War and Victory Medals with no qualification for the 1915 Star which indicated they did not enter a theatre of war until after January 1st 1916. They both served in the 14th (Service) Battalion Royal Irish Rifles which was raised in Belfast in September 1914 from the Ulster Volunteers. "Service" stood for "war service". The battalion had the secondary title of "Young Citizen Volunteers of Belfast". On September 4th 1914, men of the UVF from the East, South and West Belfast battalions and the Young Citizens Volunteers began enlisting having been assured they would serve as part of an Ulster Division. The 14th Battalion served in the 109th Brigade alongside the 9th Battalion Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers (Tyrone Volunteers); 10th Battalion Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers (Derry Volunteers); 11th Battalion Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers (Donegal and Fermanagh Volunteers). The 109th Brigade served in the 36th (Ulster) Division.
This brigade landed in France in October 1915. matthew and John did not go to France until 1916.
In the Census of Ireland taken in April 1911, matthew and John were living with their parents and siblings at 14 Carleton Street, "Pottinger (part of Down)". matthew was a pawnbroker's assistant aged 14 and John was a drapery shopman aged 17. In April 1914, matthew would have been aged 17 and John 20. So it is possible they joined-up in September 1914 when the minimum age was 18. They may have joined in 1915, or matthew, the youngest could have followed his brother. There was no conscription in Ireland and volunteering declined in 1916. It therefore seems likely the two young men volunteered in 1915, joined a reserve battalion of the Royal Irish Rifles in which they would have done their basic training, and were then posted to the 14th Battalion in France when required. Some reserve battalions of the RIR trained in Ireland; others at Larkhill on Salisbury Plain, England.
In 1916, the Ulster Division was on the Somme. The 109th Brigade took over the sector south of the River Ancre, known by the name of Thiepval Wood which had yet to gain its reputation as a battleground. On the first day of the Battle of the Somme, July 1st 1916, the Division attacked the Schwaben Redoubt near Thiepval. The Ulster Division suffered 5104 casualties of whom 2069 died. The Division was relieved the next day and came out of the line.
Whether matthew and John fought on the Somme or whether they were drafted to France as a result of its casulaties is not clear. A nominal roll of the 14th Royal Irish Rifles who were at the Somme is held by The Somme Association, Craigavon House, Circular Road, Belfast BT4 2NA, telephone 01232 761600.
The war diary of the 14 RIR has not been published online. However the following information has been gleaned from the diary of their sister battalion, the 11th Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers which occasionally refers to the 14th RIR by name.
In August 1916 the Ulster Division moved from the Somme to a comparatively quiet area at the time – Ploegsteert Wood ("Plug Street") which was just to the North of Armentieres on the road to Ypres.
http://www.ww1battlefields.co.uk/flanders/plugstreet.html
For some time the 14th Royal Irish Rifles went into "trench routine" in this area, spending a few days in the trenches alternating with a few days in billets a mile or two to the rear of the front line. The routine involved many working parties which carried stores to the front at night-time and there were daily casualties from snipers, shelling and gas. In September, the 14th RIR were in trenches near Dranoutre. October to December was spent in trench routine at Spanbroek and December until Spring 1917 was spent at Ploegsteert Wood in the Douve sector and Hyde Park Corner. On the first day of Spring, March 21st 1917, it snowed heavily. At the end of March the men were in a rear area where they were able to relax and on March 31st 1917 the 109th Brigade held a brigade sports day. April saw the men back in the trenches in the Spanbroek sector and Kemmel Hill, just South of Ypres. On May 5th 1917 they were in the Spanbroek sector when John snowden was killed. There appears to have been no major engagement on this day, so it is probable he died as a result of day-to-day fighting and shelling in the trenches.
Corporal John snowden was killed in action on May 5th 1917, aged 22, and is commemorated at Pond Farm Cemetery at Wulverghem. He was awarded the British War and Victory Medals.
On June 7th 1917 his younger brother would have taken part in the fighting on the Messines – Wytschaete Ridge in this area before the 109th Brigade moved to a quiet area in the rear for rest and training at Alquines in July 1917. On July 22nd 1917 the 14th Royal Irish Rifles won the brigade football cup final beating the 11th Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers 1 – 0. On the 28th July the men were addressed by General Sir Hubert Gough. After a period in some wet trenches at Wieltje they spent the first two weeks of August preparing for an attack on August 16th which became known as The Battle of Langemarck, North-east of Ypres. The 14th RIR captured Schuler Farm. The Brigade then moved back into France to Winnizelle before moving to Barastre, and then Bertincourt to the East of Bapaume in September. They remained in that area until their next major engagement which involved the taking of Velu Wood on the Bapaume to Cambrai Road. This phase became known as the Cambrai Operations 20 November - 30 December 1917. The 109th Brigade then moved to the area around Lucheux where they spent Christmas 1917. The New Year was spent in trench routine at Selente and St Simon before the battalion received news on February 1st 1918 that it was to be disbanded as part of a general re-organisation of the Army. They were in the area of Cugny, South of St Quentin and on February 28th the 14th (Service) Battalion Royal Irish Rifles ceased to exist. Its war service had come to an end. The men who remained were joined with the remaining men of the 11th Bn Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers and were re-styled as the 23rd Entrenching Battalion under Lt Col the Honourable Odo Richard Vivian lately of the 14th RIR.
These entrenching battalions were created in 1918 after the break-up of many infantry battalions. The men were supposed to be available to act as replacements at any time. The 23rd came under the command of 2 Corps but its surviving war diary indicates it existed between February and March 1918.
The information above is the best I can do without any surviving documentary evidence. To get the best evidence you would need to see the war diary of the 14th Bn Royal Irish Rifles which is kept at the National Archives at Kew, London, England. It is piece no WO95/2511- 14 Battalion Royal Irish Rifles Covering dates 1915 Oct. - 1918 Feb.
The war diary of the 23rd Entrenching Battalion is in WO 95/664 under 2 Corps; 23 Entrenching Battalion 1918 Feb – Mar. The National Archives is changing the way that its documents can be ordered online from April 19th 2010 so check with their website for news on how you can get copies of the diaries.
matthew snowden was awarded the British War Medal and the Victory Medal when he was aged 21 or 22.
Kind regards,
Alan       this is the reply i got from alan ,regards ken
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Bungy1948 on February 12, 2013, 01:59:55 PM
Hi Everyone

I am trying to put together a list of Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers and their enlistment dates.

For example I have 3 relatives of mine:

Enlisted 03/01/1928 - 6976124 Fusilier John Patterson

Enlisted 17/10/1933 - 6977491 Fusilier Patrick Smith

Enlisted 20/10/1937 - 6978937 Fusilier Alexander Hegarty

If anyone could help add to my list it would be very much appreciated.

Regards

QS
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Bungy1948 on February 12, 2013, 02:08:57 PM
My father Frank (Bill) Williams served from 20 January 1935 to 19.6.45. Service Number 6978141. He enlisted at Newcastle upon Tyne age 15 years and 11 months. He served in Singapore, Malaya, India and Burma from 21.2.36 to 17.6.45. He was a P.o.W. of the Japanese from19.4.42 - 17.6.45, a total of 3 years and 60 days.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Wickedfairy on February 27, 2013, 05:33:08 PM
Hi, my grandfather served with 2nd battalion Royal Inniskilling Fusilliers. His name was Mark Lynas and 2872731 was his service number.  I know he was killed in 1940 and is buried in Halle, Belgium. I am keen to find out more as I am visiting his grave next week with my mother (his daughter who was 2 yrs old when he died) and my son who is called for him.  He was from Ballymena, County Antrim.  I would appreciate any information you may have.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: old3wheeler on February 27, 2013, 06:15:51 PM
Hi, my grandfather served with 2nd battalion Royal Inniskilling Fusilliers. His name was Mark Lynas and 2872731 was his service number.  I know he was killed in 1940 and is buried in Halle, Belgium. I am keen to find out more as I am visiting his grave next week with my mother (his daughter who was 2 yrs old when he died) and my son who is called for him.  He was from Ballymena, County Antrim.  I would appreciate any information you may have.
hi wicked , try alan graveson,s war record site, the information i put on here about my familys war record was given to me by alan,
  regards ken
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Jamie Poetker on March 02, 2013, 07:32:28 AM
My great great great grandfather Micheal J Byrnes born Nov 15 1792 in Derry His father was a school master
andwe have been told the he was a bugle boy at the Battle of Waterloo
Any information on him would be great help
Thanks Jamie
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: merseyperson on March 02, 2013, 04:06:02 PM
My great great great grandfather Micheal J Byrnes born Nov 15 1792 in Derry His father was a school master
andwe have been told the he was a bugle boy at the Battle of WaterlooAny information on him would be great help Thanks Jamie
A bugler perhaps, but not a bugle boy, the Battle of Waterloo was in 1815.
He isn't listed on the Waterloo Medal Roll, and the only record that I can see for that name and era, is for a guy in the 30th ( Cambridgeshire ) Regiment of Foot, he was awarded the Peninsular Medal aka Military General Service Medal (MGSM) with a clasp for Badajoz ( 1812 ), and in the remarks column of the award ledger it says,...Waterloo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_General_Service_Medal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_General_Service_Medal)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on March 02, 2013, 04:14:31 PM
possible
  Waterloo Medal Roll 1815 - soldier details
Name Michl Byrns
Rank Private
Regiment 44th Regiment of foot
Sub unit Captain T.A. Dudie's Company
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Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: merseyperson on March 02, 2013, 05:25:54 PM
possible
  Waterloo Medal Roll 1815 - soldier details
Name Michl Byrns
Rank Private
Regiment 44th Regiment of foot
Sub unit Captain T.A. Dudie's Company
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Re...
http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,24371.msg1323455.html#msg1323455 (http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,24371.msg1323455.html#msg1323455)

http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,24371.msg1323559.html#msg1323559 (http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,24371.msg1323559.html#msg1323559)
Well spotted, and yes indeed it's possible, the question is though, was he for certain in the Inniskillings. ?
Back then the Inniskillings were the 27th (Inniskilling) Regiment of Foot.
Your guys at that time were the 44th (East Essex) Regiment of Foot, which in 1881 amalgamated with the 56th (West Essex) Regiment of Foot to become the Essex Regiment which in 1958 amalgamated with the Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire Regiment to become the 3rd East Anglian Regiment which in 1964 became the Royal Anglian Regiment.
How though could one prove if someone at Waterloo was,...whomever. ?
Probaably, if at all, via records in a Regimental Museum, I would guess.
The Royal Anglians have a museum, as do the Essex regiment, and of course, the Innislillings.
http://www.royalanglianmuseum.org.uk/index.html (http://www.royalanglianmuseum.org.uk/index.html)
http://www.chelmsford.gov.uk/essexregimentmuseum (http://www.chelmsford.gov.uk/essexregimentmuseum)
http://www.inniskillingsmuseum.com/ (http://www.inniskillingsmuseum.com/)
In 1881 the 30th (Cambridgeshire) Regiment of Foot amalgamated with the 59th (2nd Nottinghamshire) Regiment of Foot to form the  East Lancashire Regiment which in 1958 amalgamated with the South Lancashire Regiment to form the Lancashire Regiment (Prince of Wales's Volunteers) which in 1970 amalgamated with the Loyal North Lancashire Regiment to form the The Queen's Lancashire Regiment which in 2006 amalgamated with the King's Own Royal Border Regiment and The King's Regiment to form the Duke of Lancaster's Regiment.
Goodness knows how many regimental museums there are connected with that lot,  :) , but the King's Own Royal Regiment Museum probably covers a few of them.
http://www.kingsownmuseum.plus.com/regthistory.htm
Curiously enough, your guys, the 44th Regiment of foot, also fought at Badajoz and Waterloo.
I did find one record for Michael Byrne in the Innislillings, but it was for 1882, so way too late, possibly a descendant though. ?
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: kerrywez on March 04, 2013, 11:58:23 PM
Hi All just registered, found the site whilst researching my great uncle. I paid for his medical records, but what I got was somewhat confusing, but there is only the one person with his name with a regiment Royal Inniskillen Fusiliers, so for what it is worth I can give you that little bit and also the 1911 census record for him too. His name was John Barton and he was from Newtownstewart, Co. Tyrone. The number I have for him is 11234 and he was a private. I know that he was killed in action, but not where or when. We did have his 1914 1918 medal it had no ribbon. His address on signing up was 20 Dublin Street and he was 16 when the census was taken, so he would have been 19 or 20 when the war started. The medal was given to a closer relative than me, I lived with his sister, on her death I gave the medal to a grand nephew who is a Barton.
I hope that some body will be able to help me and for any help and even for any research done on my behalf, I would like to thank that/those person/people.

Good luck and best wishes Wez
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: merseyperson on March 05, 2013, 06:27:40 AM
Hi All just registered, found the site whilst researching my great uncle. I paid for his medical records, but what I got was somewhat confusing, but there is only the one person with his name with a regiment Royal Inniskillen Fusiliers, so for what it is worth I can give you that little bit and also the 1911 census record for him too. His name was John Barton and he was from Newtownstewart, Co. Tyrone. The number I have for him is 11234 and he was a private. I know that he was killed in action, but not where or when. We did have his 1914 1918 medal it had no ribbon. His address on signing up was 20 Dublin Street and he was 16 when the census was taken, so he would have been 19 or 20 when the war started. The medal was given to a closer relative than me, I lived with his sister, on her death I gave the medal to a grand nephew who is a Barton.
I hope that some body will be able to help me and for any help and even for any research done on my behalf, I would like to thank that/those person/people. Good luck and best wishes Wez
This is him...
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/874316/BARTON,%20JOHN
He enlisted in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers in Omagh in 1914, aged 18, service number 11234 and was promoted within months to Lance Corporal.
He was posted to France in 1915 where he served with the regiment until 1918.
Later in 1918 he was transferred to the Royal Irish Regiment, and given the new regimental service number of 3441 and in September 1918 he was posted as missing, assumed killed.
I will give you some dates and details on this later.
This is his death registration, you can get his death certificate from the UK General Register Office.
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Registration event: Death
Name: BARTON, John
Unit: Irish R.
Rank: Lance Corporal
Number: 3441
Year:  1918
 Volume :  I.77
Page:  146 
Record source:  GRO War Death Army Other Ranks (1914 to 1921)

Title: Re: John Barton Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers & Royal Irish Regiment
Post by: merseyperson on March 05, 2013, 07:17:25 AM
Re message 303, the reply button for that message appears to have disappeared so I'll pop this in here for Kerrywez, John Barton's Medal Card can be downloaded from the following link.
http://www.filedropper.com/johnbarton
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: kerrywez on March 06, 2013, 09:47:35 PM
Hi Merseyperson, your a real star, I have been looking for ages for what happened and where and not I know and it is all thanks to you. I own you big time and cannot begin to tell you how much it means to me, it is just a great pity that my old great aunt did not know this before she did in 2000, aged 86, they were all long livers in that branch of the family, my great-grandmother was 96 when she died.
If it were not too much trouble to you, would it be possible to trace my dads records from the Second World War. His mane was James Allen Scott, he was attached to, or was in a tank regiment, I know he was in Europe, but he would not talk about the war and he died when I was just 11 so I never was able to have a grown up talk with him. He was originally from Londonderry and was married to my mum before the war started, but I am not sure where they were married. We were from the village of Sion Mills, Co Tyrone and that is where he would have been demobbed to I would imagine. For the records of whichever his regiment was, my dad died from lung cancer on 29th August 1959, in St Column's Hospital, Londonderry.
The following is the 1911 census of my dads home, hope it might be of some help to you and with any luck it will allow you to find out something about my dads army career. I am not sure what regiment he was in, but I am sure it had to be a home regiment.
Residents of a house 15 in Albert Street (Londonderry No. 3 Urban, Londonderry)
Show all informationSurname   Forename   Age   Sex   Relation to head   Religion   Birthplace   Occupation   Literacy   Irish Language   Marital Status   Specified Illnesses   Years Married   Children Born   Children Living
Scott   James   38   Male   Head of Family   Methodist   City Londonderry   Fireman in Shirt Factory   Read and write   -   Married   -   -   -   -
Scott   Matilda   31   Female   Wife   Methodist   Co Londonderry   -   Read and write   -   Married   -   8   6   5
Scott   Ellen   7   Female   Daughter   Methodist   City Londonderry   Scholar   Read and write   -   Single   -   -   -   -
Scott   James   6   Male   Son   Methodist   City Londonderry   Scholar   Read Only   -   Single   -   -   -   -
Scott   Precilla   5   Female   Daughter   Methodist   City Londonderry   -   -   -   Single   -   -   -   -
Scott   Matilda   4   Female   Daughter   Methodist   City Londonderry   -   -   -   Single   -   -   -   -
Scott   Margaret   2   Female   Daughter   Methodist   City Londonderry   -   -   -
Many thanks again and good lcuk and very best wishes Wez
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Hughes1987 on March 20, 2013, 09:57:16 AM
Hi every one, just registered as I'm trying to find the military record of my late grandfather, he passed when I was 4 and I would like to know his service records etc, I know he was in the Inniskilling fusiliers in ww2 and went to North Africa, Sicily and Italy where he got wounded. His medals where stolen some years ago so I would like to try and get replacements for my Dad,

Any one know where I should start?

Many thanks 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: merseyperson on March 20, 2013, 10:56:06 AM
Re message 307, immediately above.

 :) Yes, I do.

Re the medals, start here, on the first link, and read FAQ frequently asked questions section.
https://www.gov.uk/the-ministry-of-defence-medal-office (https://www.gov.uk/the-ministry-of-defence-medal-office)

https://www.gov.uk/medals-campaigns-descriptions-and-eligibility (https://www.gov.uk/medals-campaigns-descriptions-and-eligibility)

For his service record, go here...

https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/ministry-of-defence/about/publication-scheme#apply-for-service-personnel-service-records (https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/ministry-of-defence/about/publication-scheme#apply-for-service-personnel-service-records)

You will need his date of birth, his service number would also be a help, if you know it.

The Inniskillings regimental Museum is here...

http://www.inniskillingsmuseum.com/ (http://www.inniskillingsmuseum.com/)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Inniskilling_Fusiliers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Inniskilling_Fusiliers)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/32/a8759532.shtml (http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/32/a8759532.shtml)

Nec Aspera Terrant
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: jamesharbinson on March 22, 2013, 01:00:10 PM
My grandfather served.

I have a framed certificate on my wall that reads:

36th Ulster Division
British Expeditionary Force

This Certificate is awarded to No:19117 Private Robert Harbinson 10th Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers for great devotion to duty in the Spanbroek Sector as Stretcher Bearer on the night of 4th October 1916. During enemy bombardment he rendered first aid to several men and dug out 3 men who were buried, being exposed to machine gun fire all the time.

Any further information you could supply would be greatly appreciated.

James Harbinson
Ottawa, Canada
Title: Re: Private Robert Harbinson 10th Battalion Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
Post by: merseyperson on March 22, 2013, 02:33:08 PM
My grandfather served. I have a framed certificate on my wall that reads: 36th Ulster Division
British Expeditionary Force This Certificate is awarded to No:19117 Private Robert Harbinson 10th Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers for great devotion to duty in the Spanbroek Sector as Stretcher Bearer on the night of 4th October 1916. During enemy bombardment he rendered first aid to several men and dug out 3 men who were buried, being exposed to machine gun fire all the time.
Any further information you could supply would be greatly appreciated. ames HarbinsonOttawa, Canada

Surprising, that sounds like there might be a gallantry medal involved, but his Medal Card only lists the 3 standard Campaign Medals.

It also says, Class Z, =...Class Z Army Reserve. In December 1918 soldiers being demobilised were first posted to Class Z.

They could return to civilian life but they knew that they were obliged to return if necessary.
The Z Reserve was abolished on 31st March 1920.

What else does that certificate say ?,...who issued it. ?

I have uploaded his Medal Card, go to the link below and click the grey download button.
http://www.filedropper.com/pterobertharbison19117 (http://www.filedropper.com/pterobertharbison19117)

You might get some more information from the Regimental Museum.

http://www.inniskillingsmuseum.com/ (http://www.inniskillingsmuseum.com/)

Nec Aspera Terrent
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: jamesharbinson on March 22, 2013, 02:48:11 PM
I do have photos of the certificate, but it won't allow me to post the urls.

Can I email you them?

It was issued by the "Major General" but I can't read his signature.

I also know that he served (along with three of my uncles) in the Second World War, but I'm not sure with which regiment. I'll look into it a bit more. I'm the youngest son of the youngest son, from a family of seven.

Five of my aunts and uncles were born in Ireland but my father was born in Canada after they emigrated here.
Title: Re: 310 & Private Robert Harbinson 10th Battalion Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
Post by: merseyperson on March 22, 2013, 03:39:33 PM
I do have photos of the certificate, but it won't allow me to post the urls. Can I email you them?It was issued by the "Major General" but I can't read his signature. I also know that he served (along with three of my uncles) in the Second World War, but I'm not sure with which regiment. I'll look into it a bit more. I'm the youngest son of the youngest son, from a family of seven.  Five of my aunts and uncles were born in Ireland but my father was born in Canada after they emigrated here.
 
Try to upload the picture file to http://www.filedropper.com/ (http://www.filedropper.com/) and then post the download URL here, don't fiddle about with any of those obscure looking, ( to me anyway ), symbols at the top of the message window, just post it as a normal line of text.

If that doesn't work, I will private message you an email address, I can't recall, but there might be one of those weirdy rules on here which doesn't allow you to post an URL until you have made  a certain number of posts, that sort of thing always baffles me.

So your dad was a 7th son, or more likely a 7th child, and I don't suppose that he had 7 sons, if you were the 7th son of a 7th son, that is considered in Ireland to be hugely lucky.

I think that in Ireland they might make you a deity or something, or at least give you a free pint of Guinness.

What you are though, is a citizen of the Republic of Ireland, because you have a grandparent who was born in Ireland, north or south of the present Irish border doesn't matter, if you have a parent or a grandparent who was born in any part of Ireland, then the Government of the Irish Republic regards you as an Irish citizen.

So you have dual nationality, which Canadian law also permits, and you can have an Irish driving licence and passport, and a free university eduction in Scotland, because you are also a citizen of the European Union, and Scotland doesn't charge Scottish people university tuition fees, and the E.U. doesn't allow Scotland to charge members of other E.U. countries fees, because they regard that as discriminatory.

You also have the right to live and work in any E.U. member country.

If you know the dates of birth, of your dad and your uncles, then you might be able to get their service records from the link below.

If you don't know the dates of birth, they may well be listed on ships passenger manifests.

https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/ministry-of-defence/about/publication-scheme#apply-for-service-personnel-service-records (https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/ministry-of-defence/about/publication-scheme#apply-for-service-personnel-service-records)

Erin go bragh.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: jamesharbinson on March 22, 2013, 03:57:47 PM
Actually, I looked into the dual citizenship, but I think they've changed the rules.

I was MARRIED in Scotland 5 years ago, but my wife is also Canadian (but I married a redhead, so I could probably fool everyone)... lol

Alas, I've tried using filedropper and it still won't let me attach a url.

Orrrrr... try putting in filedropper followed by this: /p3211973

Working on dates etc. but I have a photo of my grandparents standing in front of a sign that says: Anchor Donaldson Line, Belfast to Canada...

email my "spam account" ([email protected] dot com) and I'll give you the url. You can also email me any [censored] offers or Nigerian fortune offers, as I don't care about that account at all (hence posting it in public)... lol

(oh and I'm the second son of the seventh son... dammit... and there were only five boys).

Typical... not luck at all!!
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Dommo on March 22, 2013, 04:31:42 PM
Hi Everyone

I am trying to put together a list of Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers and their enlistment dates.

For example I have 3 relatives of mine:

Enlisted 03/01/1928 - 6976124 Fusilier John Patterson

Enlisted 17/10/1933 - 6977491 Fusilier Patrick Smith

Enlisted 20/10/1937 - 6978937 Fusilier Alexander Hegarty

If anyone could help add to my list it would be very much appreciated.

Regards

QS
No dates I am afraid but my friend Michael Callagahan. La Salle Gardens Falls Road had a maternal granfather who lived with him in the 1960's and 70's, he was McCarthy and had served in the Royal Fusiliers in India, in Nagpur, probably in the30's or 40's. He was a sergeant.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: jamesharbinson on March 22, 2013, 04:40:34 PM
Getting some more information on Robert Harbinson.

He emigrated to Canada aboard the HMS Athenia in 1928

Title: Re: Harbinson - message 309
Post by: merseyperson on March 22, 2013, 05:09:11 PM
My grandfather served. I have a framed certificate on my wall that reads: 36th Ulster Division British Expeditionary Force This Certificate is awarded to No:19117 Private Robert Harbinson 10th Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers for great devotion to duty in the Spanbroek Sector as Stretcher Bearer on the night of 4th October 1916. During enemy bombardment he rendered first aid to several men and dug out 3 men who were buried, being exposed to machine gun fire all the time. Any further information you could supply would be greatly appreciated. James Harbinson Ottawa, Canada
 

Heck, all that and only a certificate. ! What did they have to do to get a medal. ?! Well at least they said thanks.

10th Bn, the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers (Derry), properly styled 10th (Service) Battalion (Derry), was in the 109th Brigade, of the 36th (Ulster) Division.

In January 1918, the 10th Bn, the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers (Derry) disbanded in France and most of the 10th Battalion's Officers and men were transferred to the 2nd battalion.

On 3rd February 1918 : the 2nd Battalion transferred from the 96th Brigade in the 32nd Division, to 109th Brigade in 36th (Ulster) Division.

Your filedropper URL worked O.K., and I hope that there were no Nigerian nasties attached to it.!

Your Certificate was signed by, Sir Oliver Stewart Wood Nugent KCB DSO (1860–1929, General Commanding the 36th Ulster Division.

http://www.freewebs.com/denbob/ulsterdivinspection.htm (http://www.freewebs.com/denbob/ulsterdivinspection.htm)

I believe that he was from County Cavan, Kitchener was from County Kerry.

Your picture of your certificate was a bit incomplete, this is what such a full certificate should look like...
http://www.filedropper.com/36thulsterdivisiongallantrycertificate
That can be downloaded by clicking the grey download button.
Title: Re: Harbinson - message 309
Post by: jamesharbinson on March 22, 2013, 06:08:48 PM

Heck, all that and only a certificate. ! What did they have to do to get a medal. ?! Well at least they said thanks.


Well <em>of course</em> the story that we got, was that as he was bringing the wounded back, another man help carried them to the infirmary and took credit for the act and was awarded some kind of medal (over the years it turned into the VC). My grandfather didn't say anything and when the rest of the regiment found out, they refused to talk to the other soldier for the rest of the war.

I have no doubt that this story is probably completely false, but you know how families are, eh?

Nonetheless, my grandfather had a pair on him that must have clanked when he walked, as did everyone else who fought in that terrible war.

Thanks so much for your effort!

I have since learned that once he came to Canada he fought with the Van Doos.

Quite a guy.

I only have one memory of him (he passed away in 1973) but I'm still very proud of him.

Jamie
Title: Re: Harbinson - message 309
Post by: jamesharbinson on March 22, 2013, 06:11:50 PM
 
Your picture of your certificate was a bit incomplete, this is what such a full certificate should look like...
http://www.filedropper.com/36thulsterdivisiongallantrycertificate (http://www.filedropper.com/36thulsterdivisiongallantrycertificate)
That can be downloaded by clicking the grey download button.

That's exactly what the certificate I have looks like.

How many were issued?
Title: Re: Harbinson - message 309
Post by: merseyperson on March 22, 2013, 08:39:58 PM
That's exactly what the certificate I have looks like.  How many were issued?

I knew there was something not right about that information, I have sen a very similar account for such an action in the same regiment in the middle east for which  a V.C. was awarded, and your g g/f was involved in a situation such as his was, and he only apparently got a pat on the back.

That just didn't sound right to me, and it wasn't.

I'll give you the details on this tomorrow probably, and also the documentation.

For now though I'll cut to the chase.

His Medal Card was wrong.

I've got news for you, your great grandfather was awarded the Military Medal, and probably for the action described on your scroll.

His award was published at the beginning of December 1916 and the action described on your certificate took place on 4th October 1916 and the certificate was issued on 23rd July 1917.
I have only seen one Military Medal Citation Document, and it's quite a plain looking thing.

If you mean how many of your certificates were issued, I don't know, but there were if I recall correctly, about 115 thousand Military Medals awarded during WW1.

I'm guessing that your document was the Ulster Divisions own in house form of post medal award recognition, and I'm also guessing that it may well be very rare in terms of the number of such documents that may have survived.

I'm sure that you would never sell it, but I'm also guessing that it may well be quite valuable.

If I was you, I would take it to an authority on medals or military documents, and have it appraised, and get some advice about how best to preserve it.

if you were in England I would suggest taking it to the Imperial War Museum in London and asking them to take a look at it, but in Canada you might take it to the Canadian war museum in Ottawa...http://www.warmuseum.ca/home/ (http://www.warmuseum.ca/home/)  or to the Canadian National Archives

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Pages/home.aspx (http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Pages/home.aspx)

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/index-e.html (http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/index-e.html)

Harbison R., (19117) Private Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers, Drumcroon, Coleraine, County Londonderry.

I'll be in touch.
Title: Re: Harbinson - message 309
Post by: jamesharbinson on March 22, 2013, 09:45:04 PM

I knew there was something not right about that information, I have sen a very similar account for such an action in the same regiment in the middle east for which  a V.C. was awarded, and your g g/f was involved in a situation such as his was, and he only apparently got a pat on the back.

That just didn't sound right to me, and it wasn't.

I'll give you the details on this tomorrow probably, and also the documentation.

For now though I'll cut to the chase.

His Medal Card was wrong.

I've got news for you, your great grandfather was awarded the Military Medal, and probably for the action described on your scroll.

His award was published at the beginning of December 1916 and the action described on your certificate took place on 4th October 1916 and the certificate was issued on 23rd July 1917.
I have only seen one Military Medal Citation Document, and it's quite a plain looking thing.

If you mean how many of your certificates were issued, I don't know, but there were if I recall correctly, about 115 thousand Military Medals awarded during WW1.

I'm guessing that your document was the Ulster Divisions own in house form of post medal award recognition, and I'm also guessing that it may well be very rare in terms of the number of such documents that may have survived.

I'm sure that you would never sell it, but I'm also guessing that it may well be quite valuable.

If I was you, I would take it to an authority on medals or military documents, and have it appraised, and get some advice about how best to preserve it.

if you were in England I would suggest taking it to the Imperial War Museum in London and asking them to take a look at it, but in Canada you might take it to the Canadian war museum in Ottawa...http://www.warmuseum.ca/home/ (http://www.warmuseum.ca/home/)  or to the Canadian National Archives

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Pages/home.aspx (http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Pages/home.aspx)

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/index-e.html (http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/index-e.html)

Harbison R., (19117) Private Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers, Drumcroon, Coleraine, County Londonderry.

I'll be in touch.

Wow, I really don't know how to express how much your knowledge means to me. I wish I had stumbled across this thread two years ago, we spent three weeks in Ireland (a week in Belfast, a week in Dublin and another week driving around the both coasts). I would have loved to have met you and bought you a pint or two (perhaps even three).

It was a great way to connect with my roots. I loved every second of it.

Jamie
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: CBare52 on March 25, 2013, 02:20:59 AM
Hi, I'm new to genealogy research, and have been given the task by my cousin to find his maternal grandfather.  He served with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers during WWI, and his service number was 18867.  Is this any help in finding any information on him.  His name was Thomas Patrick Burke.  He was also in the Machine Gun Corp with a Service # 28987, and was awarded a Silver War badge for being injured.  The number there is 517744. 

I have no idea if any of this information is of any use, but it's all my cousin has.

Sandy
Title: Re: Pte. Thomas P.Burke Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: merseyperson on March 25, 2013, 03:37:06 AM
Hi, I'm new to genealogy research, and have been given the task by my cousin to find his maternal grandfather.  He served with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers during WWI, and his service number was 18867.  Is this any help in finding any information on him.  His name was Thomas Patrick Burke.  He was also in the Machine Gun Corp with a Service # 28987, and was awarded a Silver War badge for being injured.  The number there is 517744.  I have no idea if any of this information is of any use, but it's all my cousin has. Sandy
 

I LOVE it when somebody says, maternal grandfather, instead of just grandfather, it's just so much more comprehensible.

Is it of any use ?!  :) , are you kidding, most people don't know more than a regiment, if that. !

I'll bet that you've even got his medals, another rare occurrence if you do.

All the info is exactly as you say, Thomas P. Burke, rank Pte. = Private.

The first theatre of war that he served in was Gallipoli in Turkey, after which his unit probably went to France and served in the battle of the Somme, and or other battles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallipoli_Campaign#August_offensive

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Somme

He landed in Gallipoli on the 7th August 1915.

He has the 3 standard Campaign Medals, the British Victory medal, the British War Medal, and the 1914-1915  Star, plus of course, the Silver War Badge, which you named correctly, it is also sometimes unofficially called the Silver Wound Badge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_campaign_medals

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_War_Badge

From the, units, and 1914-1915 medal and campaign dates, I may be able to tell you what battalion he served in, and where and when, I can certainly narrow it down a bit when I have time.

Of course if you do have his Campaign Medals, that information will be stamped on them.

Many WW1 Army Service Records were destroyed in the WW2 German Blitz on London.

State in two short sentences why Cinema Paradiso is a superb film  and I may take a look for them.   :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEFugVbzsSo

Go to the link below and click the grey download button.

That is his Medal Record Card.

http://www.filedropper.com/thomaspburkebritisharmywwimedalcard

Nec Aspera Terrant
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: CBare52 on March 25, 2013, 05:29:03 AM
I can't thank you enough for this information.  You are AMAZING!!   I will pass this on to my cousin and I will tell him where I got the information. 
btw I'm in Canada and he is in England.  I love the internet and technology.  :)

Thanks again.
Sandy
Title: Private Robert Harbinson M.M. 19117 10th Battalion R.I.F.
Post by: merseyperson on March 25, 2013, 06:16:04 AM
To jamesharbinson re message 309

I could manage a couple of beers for sure.

Pooped and playing catch up at the moment, so more background on this later, and I will tell you why your g g/f and his mates broke a collection box in a church in England and what kind of table cloths they had in the cookhouse of their barracks in England and how many rounds of ammunition they carried when they went into action at the Somme at 7.30 a.m. on 1st July 1916.

I will also mention a puzzle about why your g g/f was apparently earning the Military Medal near Ypres in Belgium 75 miles away from where the rest of his Battalion was going into action at Thiepval in France.

The document that you have is a Divisional Gallantry Certificate.

Your g g/f was in C Company and his Commanding Officer was Major Trench.

Spanbrock  is Spanbroekmolen which is near Ypres and Messines in Belgium.

He was probably also involved in the tail end of the battle of Messines in June 1917 and the start of the third battle of Ypres aka the battle of Passchendaele at the end of June 1917.

On 1st July 1917 his Company and Brigade went into action at thiepval Wood for 4 days at the start of the Battle of the Somme but on the 4th July he was 75 miles north at Spanbroekmolen.

BTW - Both as a soldier and also as a civilian, your g g/f was entitled to the use of post nominal letters, in other words, he was entitled to style himself as, Robert Harbinson M.M. and he is also entitled to have that inscribed on his headstone, but that is your department.

Here is the publication of his Military Medal award in the London Gazette Newspaper which is the official British Government newspaper in which they make official announcements.

Also his passenger list for his journey to Canada which was on the S.S. Athena, and not on H.M.S. Athena which never existed and which would have been His or Her Majestys Ship i.e. a British
Royal Naval warship, which tended not to carry civilian passengers.  :)

http://www.filedropper.com/12045supplementtothelondongazette9december1916 (http://www.filedropper.com/12045supplementtothelondongazette9december1916)

http://www.filedropper.com/page12045supplementtothelondongazette9december1916 (http://www.filedropper.com/page12045supplementtothelondongazette9december1916)

http://www.filedropper.com/page6_1 (http://www.filedropper.com/page6_1)

http://www.filedropper.com/page16 (http://www.filedropper.com/page16)

http://www.filedropper.com/ssathenia (http://www.filedropper.com/ssathenia)

http://www.filedropper.com/ssathenia31stmarch1928headerpage (http://www.filedropper.com/ssathenia31stmarch1928headerpage)

http://www.filedropper.com/ssathenia1928harbinsonfamily (http://www.filedropper.com/ssathenia1928harbinsonfamily)

http://www.filedropper.com/ssathenia-anchordonaldsonltd-montrealharbour-1933 (http://www.filedropper.com/ssathenia-anchordonaldsonltd-montrealharbour-1933)

Catch you later
Title: Re: Private Robert Harbinson M.M. 19117 10th Battalion R.I.F.
Post by: jamesharbinson on March 25, 2013, 06:42:47 AM
To jamesharbinson re message 309

I could manage a couple of beers for sure.

Pooped and playing catch up at the moment, so more background on this later, and I will tell you why your g g/f and his mates broke a collection box in a church in England and what kind of table cloths they had in the cookhouse of their barracks in England and how many rounds of ammunition they carried when they went into action at the Somme at 7.30 a.m. on 1st July 1916.

I will also mention a puzzle about why your g g/f was apparently earning the Military Medal near Ypres in Belgium 75 miles away from where the rest of his Battalion was going into action at Thiepval in France.

The document that you have is a Divisional Gallantry Certificate.

Your g g/f was in C Company and his Commanding Officer was Major Trench.

Spanbrock  is Spanbroekmolen which is near Ypres and Messines in Belgium.

He was probably also involved in the tail end of the battle of Messines in June 1917 and the start of the third battle of Ypres aka the battle of Passchendaele at the end of June 1917.

On 1st July 1917 his Company and Brigade went into action at thiepval Wood for 4 days at the start of the Battle of the Somme but on the 4th July he was 75 miles north at Spanbroekmolen.

BTW - Both as a soldier and also as a civilian, your g g/f was entitled to the use of post nominal letters, in other words, he was entitled to style himself as, Robert Harbinson M.M. and he is also entitled to have that inscribed on his headstone, but that is your department.

Here is the publication of his Military Medal award in the London Gazette Newspaper which is the official British Government newspaper in which they make official announcements.

Also his passenger list for his journey to Canada which was on the S.S. Athena, and not on H.M.S. Athena which never existed and which would have been His or Her Majestys Ship i.e. a British
Royal Naval warship, which tended not to carry civilian passengers.  :)

http://www.filedropper.com/12045supplementtothelondongazette9december1916 (http://www.filedropper.com/12045supplementtothelondongazette9december1916)

http://www.filedropper.com/page12045supplementtothelondongazette9december1916 (http://www.filedropper.com/page12045supplementtothelondongazette9december1916)

http://www.filedropper.com/page6_1 (http://www.filedropper.com/page6_1)

http://www.filedropper.com/page16 (http://www.filedropper.com/page16)

http://www.filedropper.com/ssathenia (http://www.filedropper.com/ssathenia)

http://www.filedropper.com/ssathenia31stmarch1928headerpage (http://www.filedropper.com/ssathenia31stmarch1928headerpage)

http://www.filedropper.com/ssathenia1928harbinsonfamily (http://www.filedropper.com/ssathenia1928harbinsonfamily)

http://www.filedropper.com/ssathenia-anchordonaldsonltd-montrealharbour-1933 (http://www.filedropper.com/ssathenia-anchordonaldsonltd-montrealharbour-1933)

Catch you later

I'm astounded that there is this much information on my grandfather. Oh, yes... I know that it seems like he'd be my great grandfather, but believe it or not, being the youngest child of his youngest child means that many of my cousins are old enough be be my parents.

I was actually seven years old when he passed away in 1973 and I do have memories of my grandfather (although not many).

Also interesting, is that the more we dig into his past (getting all of the cousins involved at this point), we're coming up with his birth certificate, wedding license, etc.

It seems that he was born Robert Harbison (no N in the last name) and so, as near as we can figure, it must have been altered by accident in his military record. For whatever reason, he kept his name as HarbiNson when he came to Canada and we're all stuck with it now. lol

I also found out that his wife's parents (Mary Conley) were driven out of Scotland when their crofter-land was taken over by sheep farmers. Probably one of the few occasions that people emigrated TO Ireland!

Well, it seems like I might just have to head back to Ireland for a visit, this time to see the church where they were married and much more!.

Keep it coming. I don't know where you're getting it, but it's amazing.

Jamie
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: CBare52 on March 31, 2013, 04:36:30 AM
Yes, you are right, my cousin DOES have his grandfathers medals. Now we're searching for his birth records.  I we found his marriage certificate record from 1944
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: newphone on April 03, 2013, 11:20:16 AM
My grandfather was James Mullin No 621307      Reg No 29217     Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers.   Labour Corp.  I have his discharge certificate dated August 1919 and viewed his medal card, any other military info would be great.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: old3wheeler on April 03, 2013, 04:34:18 PM
(http://i48.tinypic.com/5mk61h.jpg)                                        (http://i48.tinypic.com/xawbkm.jpg)
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         (http://i47.tinypic.com/2dcij4o.jpg)        my grandfather was transferred from the 14th batt rir  (ycv ) to the 11th batt inniskilling fusiliers in 1918 , this was known as an entrenching batt , ive put pics of his medals on and also his brothers medals , john his brother was killed in belguim in may 1917, also pics of his death penny and the cigarette case he had on him when he was killed by shrapnel, as you can see its kind off twisted , it was given to my grandfather the day john was killed, family story is they had passed each other as john went on duty, my grandfather told him to be carefull as there was a lot of shelling on the positon to which he was going,  regards ken                               
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: rinty on May 07, 2013, 11:40:35 AM
could anyone give me any information on my uncle Robert Monaghan 2nd batt RIF service no 7014323 killed in action 21st April 1945 aged 25yrs lance corporal buried in Argenta Gap war cemetary Italy is he mentioned on any war memorials
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Bigali on May 07, 2013, 05:31:28 PM
could anyone give me any information on my uncle Robert Monaghan 2nd batt RIF service no 7014323 killed in action 21st April 1945 aged 25yrs lance corporal buried in Argenta Gap war cemetary Italy is he mentioned on any war memorials

Rinty, I had a quick look on the website of the Commonwealth War Graves Commission and he is listed as being buried in the Argenta Gap cemetery as you say, perhaps you could have a look at that website and start from there. There are also various regimental associations on line as well. Hope this may be a wee bit of help

Bigali.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: rinty on May 07, 2013, 06:30:29 PM
Thanks i keep comming up blank except for the cwg site i have even been to Enniskillen castle but drew a blank
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: jinks64 on May 12, 2013, 07:03:44 PM
My grandfather served with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers in both world wars. John Curry from Derry, any information would be greatfull folks.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: LaraHigginson on May 14, 2013, 12:17:18 AM
My husbands great grandfather served, and died, in the RIF:
First Name: John Initials:J Surname Higginson Age:20 Nationality:British Date of Death:11/09/1920 Rank:Private Service Number:6972890 Campaign Medals: Victory Medal British War Medal  Service:British Army Regiment: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers Battalion:1s

Any information would be most welcome, his son Isaac Higginson followed his fathers footsteps and is a highly decorated veteran, even has a suite in the British Legion in Ballyclare named after him. Isaac is alive and well and I'd love to be ale to give him some info on his dad.

Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: LaraHigginson on May 14, 2013, 09:03:48 AM
My husbands great grandfather served, and died, in the RIF:
First Name: John Initials:J Surname Higginson Age:20 Nationality:British Date of Death:11/09/1920 Rank:Private Service Number:6972890 Campaign Medals: Victory Medal British War Medal  Service:British Army Regiment: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers Battalion:1s

Any information would be most welcome, his son Isaac Higginson followed his fathers footsteps and is a highly decorated veteran, even has a suite in the British Legion in Ballyclare named after him. Isaac is alive and well and I'd love to be ale to give him some info on his dad.

Isaac served in the Royal Navy not the RIF. 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: 10alwyn on May 14, 2013, 03:04:22 PM
My late father served in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers from 1939 until 1951. Like many others, he did not speak about what happened in those times but recently I have found a number of his papers and one is his discharge Certificate and I would like to know know about his time in the Army. His name was Albert Potts, Army number 14307749. Many thanks
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on May 14, 2013, 05:47:25 PM
My late father served in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers from 1939 until 1951. Like many others, he did not speak about what happened in those times but recently I have found a number of his papers and one is his discharge Certificate and I would like to know know about his time in the Army. His name was Albert Potts, Army number 14307749. Many thanks

WW2 records are not online,  Kew in London hold these records
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: AliB on May 22, 2013, 06:52:03 PM

Isaac served in the Royal Navy not the RIF.

My grandmother Henrietta Higginson was John's cousin - I have a 1920 photo of his grave in what was India (now Pakistan)  - PM me and I will get a copy to you.
 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: LaraHigginson on May 23, 2013, 03:30:57 PM

My grandmother Henrietta Higginson was John's cousin - I have a 1920 photo of his grave in what was India (now Pakistan)  - PM me and I will get a copy to you.

I PMed you, thank you!
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: SandraE on June 05, 2013, 12:18:04 AM
My grandfather William James Calderbank (#8137) enlisted in the RIF on November 11, 1904. He said he was 18.5 yrs old when in actual fact he was 16.5. He served in Malta, China and Crete and then was on reserve from 1912 (worked as a crane driver for Harland and Wolf in Belfast) until he was recalled for the BEF in August 1914. He eventually made the rank of Lance Corporal (after multiple times being busted back to private for drunkenness!) and was in the Mounted Infantry. I believe they were known as the "donkey wallopers". He was in the retreat from Mons and was wounded in the Somme in July 1916 when he was injured by one of those donkeys! Because he received a permanent disability of his hand and arm, he faced a Court of Inquiry which cleared the incident as he continued to serve and was honourably discharged, described as "exemplary" in February 1919. He had a disability pension. He ended up marrying the young lady who nursed him for his injury!

I would be very interested in getting more information about which hospital he was sent for treatment and his Court of Inquiry records. Family lore says a hospital in Tipperary but I can't find any records for one there. My grandmother was a nurse in the Ulster Voluntary Medical and Nursing Corps.

I have a copy of his military records from Ancestry but I don't know if they are complete
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: mwright on June 12, 2013, 03:17:52 PM
Hello there!  Have some names for your collection, but only limited detail.  Have taken this from a short history written by their nephew:

 
Thomas Joseph Wright RIF 1914-1918 France, survived but suffered permanent total hair loss from gas poisoning
Francis Robert Wright RIF 1914-1918 Dardanelles, survived, no further details
Bernard Deighan Wright (possibly 7/27028) RIF 1914-1918 France, survived, no further details
Henry Wright (16433) RIF 6th, B company, date of enlistment not known, discharged after mother wrote and sent baptismal certificate which showed him born in 1900.  Three weeks after that discharge, on 26/06/1916, he enlisted with RIR (3/9316) 3rd (Reserve) battalion (Active), falsely denied having served previously, and again lied about his age.  He is shown to be in Dardanelles July 1915, Salonica Oct 1915, Egypt 1916, and England April 1916.  Mother again wrote and sent baptismal certificate and I believe he was discharged home as records show him awarded a pension, but his nephew seemed to think he died of gas poisoning while on active duty.  Whatever the case, he died in 1916 at the tender age of 16.   

All brothers from West Belfast but there is a small chance some may have been working outside of Ireland when they enlisted.

Hope this helps!

cjm
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: LaraHigginson on June 12, 2013, 03:52:21 PM
Henry Wright (16433) RIF 6th, B company, date of enlistment not known, discharged after mother wrote and sent baptismal certificate which showed him born in 1900.  Three weeks after that discharge, on 26/06/1916, he enlisted with RIR (3/9316) 3rd (Reserve) battalion (Active), falsely denied having served previously, and again lied about his age.  He is shown to be in Dardanelles July 1915, Salonica Oct 1915, Egypt 1916, and England April 1916.  Mother again wrote and sent baptismal certificate and I believe he was discharged home as records show him awarded a pension, but his nephew seemed to think he died of gas poisoning while on active duty.  Whatever the case, he died in 1916 at the tender age of 16.   

All brothers from West Belfast but there is a small chance some may have been working outside of Ireland when they enlisted

That's determination to serve!
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Sachs on June 13, 2013, 03:50:16 AM
My Grandfather, his brother(s) and possibly his father served with the "Skins" .
His eldest brother started as a boy solider and during WW2 was quarter Master of the regiment at the fall of Singapore. He survived the Japanese prison of war camps and emigrated to Australia after the war.
My grandfather served in Europe during WW2 and although being wounded survived the war.
There was a brother killed at the Somme aged only 19. I'm not sure if he served with the Skins or the RIR.
My Grandfathers father was an English solider stationed in Enniskillen and married a local girl but I'm not sure if he was with the "Skins" or the East Lancs.

The family name is Holohan and I realise the information I have given may be sketchy but any help you may be able to provide would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: weeman on August 02, 2013, 02:39:59 AM
Sent these messages to another member as a pm and unfortunately did not get a reply. Can any one help me.  Hi. Brother in law got 14/15 star sent to him from Belfast. His name is spelt Whyte. Apparently this medal was from one of HIS nephews and thought he should have it. Tried to get a contact in England to check it out and he told me YOU were the expert on Rifles.

   ([email protected])Front:  Center Inscription 1914-15 Bottom Point: V inside G   Back: 4-6521 Pte J. White. R.IR:RIF:
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Further to my last message. I had also asked about John Ray but he came back with Patrick which my wife Never heard her grandfather called, always John
 
 
This is what Ive got so far------------- on both WHITE (correct Spelling)  I believe White came from Gardner Street (I'm still checking) hope this helps
Joseph White
WO 372/21/121776
Description:

Medal card (Link address below) of White, Joseph
Corps     Regiment No     Rank
Royal Irish Rifles     4/6521     Private

Date:
1914-1920
Held by:            The National Archives, Kew
You need someone from university to get this one free from athens.... my password wont let me in... (Try  Belfast Forum)

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/s/res?_fn=patrick&_ln=Ray&_no=&_crp=&_ttl=Private&_ser=WO+372&_dt=M&_col=online&image1.x=68&image1.y=13 (http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/s/res?_fn=patrick&_ln=Ray&_no=&_crp=&_ttl=Private&_ser=WO+372&_dt=M&_col=online&image1.x=68&image1.y=13)

take your pick on the next one (to get a 5 figure number [78549] he was in after 1922)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: delane on August 03, 2013, 05:30:14 PM
this is my father..in 1919..on his way home..fr Persia..in Chatham..England.he is standing Royal irish Fusilers..2nd Batt..[Patrick Sharkey]..fr Short~Strand..[belfast] is there any info or Regimetal~Photos.out there..plz..Many Thanks..(http://i43.tinypic.com/15wb7z7.jpg)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: mrkingers on August 12, 2013, 04:24:19 AM
Hi everyone, My name is Brian King, been living in the US since 1998. My Grandfather was in the Inniskilling Fus. I actually have all his medals, and I also have his 303 bayonet. Been a few years since I saw his medals, and this forum has motivated me to dig them out and get a bit more info off them.
I, along with my grandfather are originally from Ballycarry, Co Antrim. About 7 miles from Larne, 6 miles from Carrickfergus and about 3 miles from Whitehead.
Would love to hear from anyone regarding this post.
Stay safe,
Brian King, Idaho USA
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: old3wheeler on August 12, 2013, 10:19:03 AM
hi brian and welcome to the forum, if you have your grandfathers detail ie service no contact Alan Greveson,s ww1 forum, he will give information about you grandfather , he runs a great site and is very helpfull,  you mentioned you were from ballycarry ,i have a good friend called kenny king who is from whitehead are you a relation perhaps of kenny, regards ken
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Blueterrier on August 13, 2013, 12:07:13 PM
James Newell Cpl Reg No 9246
2nd Batt Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
killed 16th May 1915
Lived Belfast but was born Saintfield Co.Down
Was my Grandfathers brother.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: merseyperson on August 17, 2013, 12:34:05 PM
My late father served in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers from 1939 until 1951. Like many others, he did not speak about what happened in those times but recently I have found a number of his papers and one is his discharge Certificate and I would like to know know about his time in the Army. His name was Albert Potts, Army number 14307749. Many thanks
The above quote is from message 335 which was posted by user 10alwyn, a reply to 10alwyn's message was posted in message 336

The reply said..." WW2 records are not online,  Kew in London hold these records "

Correction...As correctly stated above, WW2 service records are not available online, with the possible exception of Royal Naval personnel who enlisted up to 1923 and then served continuously into WW2, and possibly also if they had a break in their service between the time of their enlistment and the outbreak of WW2.

Those naval service records can be searched for online and can be downloaded as a PDF format text file for £3.49

The place to search for such naval records is the link below.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/royalnavyrating1853-1923.htm (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/royalnavyrating1853-1923.htm)

The query and the reply were about the service records of individuals, however there are some other WW2 records available at the U.K. National Archives at Kew in London.

WW1 and WW2 regimental and battalion war diaries are held at Kew, but the search engine is a beast of a thing to use, however if you do find the correct diary, you can apply to have either the whole of the diary, or a part of it, photocopied and posted to you for a fee, and they will first give you an estimate of the cost.

The links below are the places to start searching in the Kew maze for WW1 and WW2 war diaries and other documents.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-subject/armyregiment.htm (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-subject/armyregiment.htm)

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/war-diaries-ww1.htm (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/war-diaries-ww1.htm)

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/browse/C540 (http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/browse/C540)

However, you will find a lot about WW2 Irish regiments, including some online WW2 war diaries, on the link below.

http://www.irishbrigade.co.uk/ (http://www.irishbrigade.co.uk/)

Correction to the statement quoted above which said that WW2 service records are held at Kew, apart from the possible naval record exception mentioned above, such WW2 service records are not held at Kew.

They are held in the U.K. Ministry of Defence, and they can be applied for via the information on the links below, they can only be supplied by post and for a fee of £30, some limited searching is also available, also for a fee of £30.

https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/ministry-of-defence/about/publication-scheme#apply-for-service-personnel-service-records (https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/ministry-of-defence/about/publication-scheme#apply-for-service-personnel-service-records)

https://www.gov.uk/requests-for-personal-data-and-service-records (https://www.gov.uk/requests-for-personal-data-and-service-records)

To look for pre WW2 records for individuals, the best, and easiest, place to start is on the link below.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/default.htm (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/default.htm)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: merseyperson on August 17, 2013, 02:38:23 PM
this is my father..in 1919..on his way home..fr Persia..in Chatham..England.he is standing Royal irish Fusilers..2nd Batt..[Patrick Sharkey]..fr Short~Strand..[belfast] is there any info or Regimetal~Photos.out there..plz..Many Thanks..(http://i43.tinypic.com/15wb7z7.jpg)
Reply to member delane re message 344 which is quoted above.

A very powerful and intense picture, their facial expressions say it all.
I'm guessing that because it is hand coloured it is probably fairly uncommon.
BTW - I suspect, for a couple of reasons, that they may not both be from the same regiment.
The two vertical lines on the cuff of his sleeve are wound stripes, they are actually Russian gold braid.

Yes, there are records available and I have a pretty good idea which of them may refer to your father.

However it needs a bit more study in order to be certain.

There are various records for several Patrick Sharkeys in several Royal Irish regiments, and even for one person who served in two such regiments, and who served twice in one of those. !

Also, there were two Patrick Sharkeys in the Royal Irish Fusiliers.

Are you having what, possibly you, and certainly others on here, have sometimes called, " a senior moment ", because this thread is about the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers not the Royal Irish Fusiliers.

Was that a typo, or are you 100% certain about his regiment. ?

His Battalion number and your reference to Persia are very good clues, vital ones in fact, what is your information source BTW, and I don't suppose that you have his regimental number or medals. ?

His year and month of birth and his  birthplace should help to identify him in the records.

Please also see the message on the following link.

http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,53544.0.html (http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,53544.0.html)

Anyone else here with WW1 service or civilian war worker relatives may also find that message of interest to them.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: merseyperson on August 18, 2013, 04:08:55 AM
Hi everyone, My name is Brian King, been living in the US since 1998. My Grandfather was in the Inniskilling Fus. I actually have all his medals, and I also have his 303 bayonet. Been a few years since I saw his medals, and this forum has motivated me to dig them out and get a bit more info off them.
I, along with my grandfather are originally from Ballycarry, Co Antrim. About 7 miles from Larne, 6 miles from Carrickfergus and about 3 miles from Whitehead.
Would love to hear from anyone regarding this post.
Stay safe, Brian King, Idaho USA

When will I learn, I just lost a message to you Brian because this forum timed me out.

Suffice to say, briefly, that there are lots of military and other records available and if you post some information you will probably get a lot of help on here.

Also, take a look at the links below.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Covenant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Covenant)

http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/ulster_covenant.htm (http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/ulster_covenant.htm)

http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/ (http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/)

Also, are you aware that you, and your children and grandchildren, if you have any, are all citizens of the Republic of Ireland in addition to any other nationalities that you all have. ?
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Tipperdarby on August 18, 2013, 11:24:39 PM
hi brian and welcome to the forum, if you have your grandfathers detail ie service no contact Alan Greveson,s ww1 forum, he will give information about you grandfather , he runs a great site and is very helpfull,  you mentioned you were from ballycarry ,i have a good friend called kenny king who is from whitehead are you a relation perhaps of kenny, regards ken
Ken, thanks so much for recommending Alan Greveson. I read this post today and thought I would give him a try. .within 2 hours he sent me great information on my Grandfather.
Thanks again
Eileen
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Tipperdarby on August 19, 2013, 04:34:26 AM
Does anyone have any idea why a man would be registered in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers under one name and then a different name in the Army years later?
My Grandfather, John O'Neill was a Lance Corporal in the 2nd Battalion of the Fusiliers from 1899 until 1902 except he was called John Kennedy! I have his service number 5586 and I found him on the Fusiliers website.
In 1909 he enlisted in the RAMC Special Reserve Regiment number 1144 under the name John O'Neill and left the army in 1920. He served with 15th company RAMC and in 1914 was posted to 16 Field Ambulance.He was sent to France and Flanders in 1914 and served with 6th Division.
I have paperwork on his time in the Army and on some pages the name John Kennedy is crossed out and it is written "alias John O'Neill"
A mystery!!!!
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Dommo on August 19, 2013, 06:47:02 PM
Does anyone have any idea why a man would be registered in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers under one name and then a different name in the Army years later?
My Grandfather, John O'Neill was a Lance Corporal in the 2nd Battalion of the Fusiliers from 1899 until 1902 except he was called John Kennedy! I have his service number 5586 and I found him on the Fusiliers website.
In 1909 he enlisted in the RAMC Special Reserve Regiment number 1144 under the name John O'Neill and left the army in 1920. He served with 15th company RAMC and in 1914 was posted to 16 Field Ambulance.He was sent to France and Flanders in 1914 and served with 6th Division.
I have paperwork on his time in the Army and on some pages the name John Kennedy is crossed out and it is written "alias John O'Neill"
A mystery!!!!
just the obvious, sometimes it is two legit names , step, adoptive, single mom, etc etc, and  sometimes people just want to leave behind aspects of their life or a family etc. t.e. Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia)  did the same thing, enlisted in the airforce under an alias.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: anamcara01 on August 19, 2013, 07:08:35 PM
Does anyone have any idea why a man would be registered in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers under one name and then a different name in the Army years later?
My Grandfather, John O'Neill was a Lance Corporal in the 2nd Battalion of the Fusiliers from 1899 until 1902 except he was called John Kennedy! I have his service number 5586 and I found him on the Fusiliers website.
In 1909 he enlisted in the RAMC Special Reserve Regiment number 1144 under the name John O'Neill and left the army in 1920. He served with 15th company RAMC and in 1914 was posted to 16 Field Ambulance.He was sent to France and Flanders in 1914 and served with 6th Division.
I have paperwork on his time in the Army and on some pages the name John Kennedy is crossed out and it is written "alias John O'Neill"
A mystery!!!!

simple the rise of the irb and the irish volunteers later the ira and then the free state army would have left him with the common sense to register boer war period as his real name however after the british antics there with concentration camps and the radicalisation of irish republicans in the after math of this, your grandfather would have been permitted to use his new name to protect his family also his soldier id number would change with each regiment and reregistration
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Tipperdarby on August 19, 2013, 07:15:29 PM

simple the rise of the irb and the irish volunteers later the ira and then the free state army would have left him with the common sense to register boer war period as his real name however after the british antics there with concentration camps and the radicalisation of irish republicans in the after math of this, your grandfather would have been permitted to use his new name to protect his family also his soldier id number would change with each regiment and reregistration
Wow, this is really interesting Anamacara, thank you. So my maiden name should have been Kennedy then! And we thought we were descended from the Kings of Ulster :D
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: anamcara01 on August 19, 2013, 08:47:42 PM
kennedy ceann eide ... round or lumpy head in irish  . there is a northern connection you need to look up 1901 and 1911 census , although if he was in army he would not be if abroad serving in the census of those periods only on army records, I would say he changed his name to protect his family from a back lash from republican sentiments . which was par for the course in those days .
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Dommo on August 19, 2013, 08:48:48 PM
kennedy ceann eide ... round or lumpy head in irish  . there is a northern connection you need to look up 1901 and 1911 census , although if he was in army he would not be if abroad serving in the census of those periods only on army records, I would say he changed his name to protect his family from a back lash from republican sentiments . which was par for the course in those days .
I've heard " ugly head" >:D
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Tipperdarby on August 19, 2013, 09:00:52 PM
kennedy ceann eide ... round or lumpy head in irish  . there is a northern connection you need to look up 1901 and 1911 census , although if he was in army he would not be if abroad serving in the census of those periods only on army records, I would say he changed his name to protect his family from a back lash from republican sentiments . which was par for the course in those days .
He is in the 1911 census as John O'Neill and was overseas during the 1901 census. I cannot find a John Kennedy that seems to suit born in 1876 or thereabouts in Antrim or Down.
Lumpy head!!! I think I'm glad he changed to O'Neill ;)
I think I will pay the 28 pounds that the Fusiliers website wants. .it may give me a bit more info??
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Tipperdarby on August 19, 2013, 09:06:06 PM
I forgot to ask. .could people just change their identity at will back in those days? My grandparents were very poor, they were both in the Workhouse when they were married. (This made me incredibly sad when that was discovered)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: anamcara01 on August 19, 2013, 09:20:27 PM
also means ugly head as well it depends on how it is used , and yes people just changed identies at will if they choose and still can do .. example French foreign legion ... join up give a name and forget your old identity  
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Dommo on August 19, 2013, 09:23:40 PM
I forgot to ask. .could people just change their identity at will back in those days? My grandparents were very poor, they were both in the Workhouse when they were married. (This made me incredibly sad when that was discovered)
but isn't that a hopeful thing! I've no idea if it was allowed but it would have been so much easier given the lack of records in most cases, no pensions, no NHS, many home births, high illiteracy.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Dommo on August 19, 2013, 09:25:24 PM
also means ugly head as well it depends on how it is used , and yes people just changed identies at will if they choose and still can do .. example French foreign legion ... join up give a name and forget your old identity  
Mais non! I think I read you have to use a real ID to join now. So where's the fun? They want a real ID and birth cert.... Mon die
"Which documents must be carrier a candidate for the recruitment ?[size=78%]The presentation of any identity cards ( on current validity ) delivered by the State of membership of the candidate is asked so as to facilitate the process of selection and recruitment (ID card, passport, driving licences, diplomas of state). In every case, an act or a birth certificate with filiation will be required before the end of the first year of contract."[/size]

Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Charlemont31 on August 26, 2013, 01:38:20 PM
I have found this site and I wonder if someone could give me some advice.  My father served in WW1 in Egypt where he was wounded.  He was a Londoner but he subsequently married a Belfast girl and never returned to London.  He must have been in an Irish regiment because he had loads of friends in Belfast who served with him.  His name was William Henry Crocker.  He lived in Agnes Street most of his life.  Where can I start to find out his service record?
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: NIBOS on November 13, 2013, 01:23:18 PM
I forgot to ask. .could people just change their identity at will back in those days? My grandparents were very poor, they were both in the Workhouse when they were married. (This made me incredibly sad when that was discovered)

Yes finding relatives in workhouses is very sad, not least infants dying in them. And as sad as finding your grandparents there must be, I can only feel fuzzy inside at the thought of the two of them finding love and having each other to lean on. In some ways it is a very heartwarming story :)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Tipperdarby on November 13, 2013, 02:02:39 PM

Yes finding relatives in workhouses is very sad, not least infants dying in them. And as sad as finding your grandparents there must be, I can only feel fuzzy inside at the thought of the two of them finding love and having each other to lean on. In some ways it is a very heartwarming story :)
What a nice way to look at it! My Dad was orphaned really young but he had good memories of his parents and he was the most loving Dad we could have wished for. His brothers were gentle men also. :)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: NIBOS on November 13, 2013, 02:04:32 PM
The Inniskillings Museum website has a "Trace a Relative" page. However I only know my ancestor by name and do not have his actual birth date, rank or regiment number.

His name is James Burke and he lived on Abbey Street, which was behind the current location of the Enniskillen Library.

His daughter married in Enniskillen in 1855 (she was 24) so given that her approximate birth year was 1831 I would have to assume James was born prior to 1810.

When I search for him at inniskillingsmuseum_com/trace-a-relative there are a bunch of James Burke possibilities:

Surname   Forenames   Rank    Number
Burke   James   Pte   4728
Burke   James   Pte   5883
Burke   William James   Pte   6559
Burke   James   Sgt   9873
Burke   J          Pte   12156
Burke   James   Pte   12556
Burke   James   Pte   12931
Burke   James   LCpl   15364
Burke   James   Pte   16661
Burke   James Joseph   A/Cpl   23474
Burke   JJ         Cpl   25174

I would like to narrow down the list above to find my guy. Does anyone know if it is possible to associate a date, or date range with the Army Number of an individual?

I don't know if it is safe to assume that a lower Army Number represents a soldier from an earlier time.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on November 13, 2013, 03:41:33 PM
I'm  no expert, but those 5 digit numbers are from 1914  onwards
You can rule out the 1st  he enlisted 1897, can't find the other three
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: NIBOS on November 13, 2013, 03:50:21 PM
I'm  no expert, but those 5 digit numbers are from 1914  onwards
You can rule out the 1st  he enlisted 1897, can't find the other three
Thank you for your reply Maura. The webpage says more records are being added all the time (i.e. check back later) so it is also possible his record is not yet indexed online.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on November 13, 2013, 04:48:48 PM
Thank you for your reply Maura. The webpage says more records are being added all the time (i.e. check back later) so it is also possible his record is not yet indexed online.
FMP has army records from 1760 -1915
There no James Burke born in Fermanagh in the R.I.F. for your time frame, there is 2 James Burkes born in Fermanagh that would suit your time frame
First name(s): James
 
Last name: BURKE
 
Calculated year of birth: 1795
 
Parish of birth: Dublin
 
Town of birth: Dublin
 
County of birth: Fermanagh
 
Age at attestation: 22 years
 
Discharge date:5 August 1817
 
Attestation corps:
 
Attestation soldier number:
 
Discharge rank: Private
 
Discharge corps: 1st (Or Royal) Regt Of Foot 1st Battn
 
 
 
First name(s): James
 
Last name: BURKE
 
Calculated year of birth: 1795
 
Parish of birth: Ackerey
 
Town of birth: Macguiere Bridge
 
County of birth: Fermanagh
 
Age at attestation: 14 years
 
Discharge date:16 September 1809
 
Attestation corps:
 
Attestation soldier number:
 
Discharge rank:
 
Discharge corps: 57th Foot
 
Discharge soldier number:
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: NIBOS on November 13, 2013, 05:19:08 PM
FMP has army records from 1760 -1915
There no James Burke born in Fermanagh in the R.I.F. for your time frame, there is 2 James Burkes born in Fermanagh that would suit your time frame
First name(s): James
 
Last name: BURKE
 
Calculated year of birth: 1795
 
Parish of birth: Dublin
 
Town of birth: Dublin
 
County of birth: Fermanagh
 
Age at attestation: 22 years
 
Discharge date:5 August 1817
 
Attestation corps:
 
Attestation soldier number:
 
Discharge rank: Private
 
Discharge corps: 1st (Or Royal) Regt Of Foot 1st Battn
 
 
 
First name(s): James
 
Last name: BURKE
 
Calculated year of birth: 1795
 
Parish of birth: Ackerey
 
Town of birth: Macguiere Bridge
 
County of birth: Fermanagh
 
Age at attestation: 14 years
 
Discharge date:16 September 1809
 
Attestation corps:
 
Attestation soldier number:
 
Discharge rank:
 
Discharge corps: 57th Foot
 
Discharge soldier number:

Very interesting, and thank you for your efforts.

I am wondering if these two James Burke with calculated birth year of 1795 are actually the same person. The one who attested age 14 was discharged in 1809, when in fact he was 14 give or take a year. The birth town of Macguiere Bridge [Maguiresbridge] is only 8 miles or so from Enniskillen, in the parish of Ackereley [Aghalurcher] so this is a good fit. Coincidentally, I have several other family lines from the parish of Aghaluircher around this same time, though this would be the first knowledge of my Burkes being from there.

The James Burke who attested aged 22 has a birth county of Fermanagh, but listed parish and town of birth as Dublin?? I wonder if 14yo James (above) had to change some information to reapply if if was previously rejected in 1809?

Do FMP subscribers have access to the attestation numbers, or are these blank because they are unknown?

Thanks again Maura, this at least gives me something to look into! O0

Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: maura on November 13, 2013, 06:42:39 PM
There not the same person, the 1 born in near Maguire Bridge enlist as a drummer boy in Jersey in 1809 not discharge as it states above, the other 1 although it say Dublin, but its not very clear, but he was discharged in Dublin. There 4 pages of James Burke's (350) plus variant spellings, but they all don't state where they where born or what regiment, you would have to go through every single one of them to see if you could find him. Most of the records that far back have very little information on them, some have only a page.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: rob elliott on November 17, 2013, 05:40:50 PM
Tipperderby,
The replies from anamacara giving reasons why John might serve as Kennedy first and then O'Neill second are utter rubbish, laughable in fact. Unless the 230,000 Irishmen who served in the war went under false names as then would the 80,000 in the 2nd war.
As Dommo said there were many reasons for wanting a name change, being underage, having broken the law and wanting to disappear for a time, not wanting family after you, bad debts. And a very simple reason. You sign up under a false name, which in those days could be 7 or 12 years, decide it's not for you, with false name you can walk away and go back to your own name and it would be virtually impossible for the army to track you.
With your own details you'd be posted absent and the police would visit your address looking for you.
And logically do you think if you joined the army from a small village or street, even under an assumed name, then people wouldn't know??
During the war men signing up then after a few weeks changing their minds was more common than people think.
The Boer war had the opposite effect to what anamacara said. Hundreds of lads wanted to join the army after reading about the exploits of the Irish regiments there. The Irish as a proportion of the standing army was greater than it's population should merit and it wasn't all down to economics.
It needs to be remembered that every soldier that left from Ireland was a volunteer.
And certainly the IRB had no influence on men joining the army before the first war. It would only be the conscription 'crisis' during the first war that had an effect. And oddly the number of Irish volunteers increased in 1918 as against 1917, even after the set back battles of March-May 18.
An important reason for giving correct information in the first war was the pension paid in the event of your death. Misinformation could lead to pensions not getting paid to wives with children. There are newly released wills available from a section of soldiers which show how important it was to leave details.
Therefore I would suggest you stick with the O'Neills'.
Rob
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Tipperdarby on November 17, 2013, 08:08:49 PM
Thanks Rob,

We could never think of ourselves as anything but O'Neill. We will never know why our Grandfather called himself Kennedy for a while but by all accounts he was a good man.  a poor man who had a tough enough life but my Dad and his brothers were all gentle, very decent men with good morals and his 2 sisters were good women. :)

Cheers
Eileen

Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: diamondderry on December 13, 2013, 06:54:45 PM
I am trying to research my great uncle James Williams who lived in Lower Road, Londonderry and is registered as born at Templemore, which is a diocese of Londonderry. He is buried at Boulogne Pas De Calais cemetery. Reported died of wounds on 16 August 1917 - Gassed?  I believe he was in 10th RIF. am trying to find out when he enlisted, his date of birth, and what was the last battle he would have fought. Was it Messiness? Pilckem? His number was 24771 - would it be possible to work out when he enlisted from the number? The family was against him enlisting, and we do not have any medals, as I believe nobody claimed them. Is it possible to check? He was the only son, and I believe quite young when he enlisted without his parents consent. I live in England now. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Just found this website when I typed in Inniskillings on google. Also grateful for info on the book Three Cheers for the Derrys which I am just about to order. I am not great on what and how to proceed with this research.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: rolohosick on December 13, 2013, 10:54:29 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/exmick/DSCF0016_zps5031db60.jpg
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: rolohosick on December 13, 2013, 11:01:06 PM
looking help on this photo  could he be artillery, but i realty don't mant thanks
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: carasmom on January 26, 2014, 11:54:20 AM
My great grandfather Guy Bleakley was an RSM in the Skins. I looked at the museum website and there was an RSM Guy Bleakley number 13134 - couldn't be too many of them could there?

He served in India - so that would probably be in the 1800s.  He married Sarah O" Hara.  His son (my grandpa) Walter Ernest was born in Enneskillen but I'm not sure if that's where the family came from.

In later years Guy And Sarah lived in Birmingham UK where they both died.

That's about it.  Cheers from a curious newbie : )   Angela
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: John Harvest on March 02, 2014, 10:26:52 PM
My great grandfather Guy Bleakley was an RSM in the Skins. I looked at the museum website and there was an RSM Guy Bleakley number 13134 - couldn't be too many of them could there?

He served in India - so that would probably be in the 1800s.  He married Sarah O" Hara.  His son (my grandpa) Walter Ernest was born in Enneskillen but I'm not sure if that's where the family came from.

In later years Guy And Sarah lived in Birmingham UK where they both died.

That's about it.  Cheers from a curious newbie : )   Angela
Your great grandfather wasn't RSM 13134 he was the other senior NCO on the Regimental Museum list, Acting Colour Sergeant 606, and he ( your great grandfather ) WAS born in Inniskillen or Enniskillen as it was variously spelled, ( around 1869 ) so were his wife (around 1873 ) and several of his surviving children, Albert Victor, Florence Kathleen, and your grandfather Walter, Violet was born in Londonderry.

An RSM = Regimental Sergeant Major = Warrant Officer First Class = WO1
A CSM = Company Sergeant Major = Warrant Officer Second Class = WO2
A Colour Sergeant = C/Sgt = Staff Sergeant and back then an infantry C/Sgt was more or less the equivalent of a CSM/WO2 the latter terms weren't commonly used until about WW1 and he could have been promoted from C/Sgt to RSM before he left the army, but as far as regards the two men on the Regimental Museum site, he is C/Sgt 606.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Pappyken on March 04, 2014, 11:08:11 AM
My g/father Robert Moore was in the R Inniskilling Fus. His medal card shows him as Pte 14/1107 in the R. Ir. Rif. Then as L/Cpl 44425, amended to 44452, in R.Innis.Fus. The date on the MIC is 2/10/15, theatre of war - France. He came from the Shore Road area of Belfast. That's about all I know.
Pappyken.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: John Harvest on March 04, 2014, 03:05:39 PM
My g/father Robert Moore was in the R Inniskilling Fus. His medal card shows him as Pte 14/1107 in the R. Ir. Rif. Then as L/Cpl 44425, amended to 44452, in R.Innis.Fus. The date on the MIC is 2/10/15, theatre of war - France. He came from the Shore Road area of Belfast. That's about all I know.
Pappyken.

14th Service Battalion Young Citizen Volunteers RIRF  Service is war service is duration of the war he and they arrived France 2/10/15 they disbanded in France October 1918 service numbers were issued by each regiment so he was given a new one when he was transferred to the RIF Class Z A.R. is the short term army reserve created in December 1918 to which he was discharged as a civilian reservist

The date is related to which Star Medal he was entitled a medal roll is a unit document that lists his medal entitlement that's what the numbers next to the medals refer to he got 1914 to 1915 Star the Victory Medal the British War Medal

No conscription in Ireland all the Irish who enlisted during the war were volunteers
Can't post links so will send you some via private forum message.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: John Harvest on March 04, 2014, 05:57:55 PM
Correction to the above, typo, should be disbanded February 1918, and it should be the RIR not the RIRF
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Kathleen on March 10, 2014, 01:23:16 AM
Hello,my grandfather Patrick J. Beattie joined the Royal Inniskilling Fusillers  around 1890.He served in the Boer War the Indian War and the Great War. I'm told when war was declared in1939 he cried saying he was sorry he couldn'd  go to this war.What are you searceing for? Kathleen
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: westerlystorm on March 15, 2014, 09:40:01 PM
My grandfather enlisted, fought and was KIA at The Battle of Messines June 7th 1917. He was a Sergeant in "The Derry's" and I found the follow tribute to him on The Diamond Memorial (Derry) project website.

To the best of my knowledge he was never recognized for this spontaneous action.

Gareth McComb (Grandson)

A warrant officer of the 10th Inniskillings (Derry Volunteers), Ulster Division, in a letter to a friend referring to the Messines battle, in which Sergeant McCombe was killed, said ? The Ulster Division have behaved in a manner second to none. Our battalion has done fine work, indeed. The positions we took were thought to be impregnable, but with our artillery behind and our infantry leading we reached our objective with very few casualties. A Brigade General, who was captured by one of the 10th, said the Irishmen came with such dash and gallantry that he was completely taken unawares, and he described the attack as one of the finest he had seen in his experience. When the mines went up one would have thought the earth had opened up, but this was only part of it. The next instant you could see the boys climbing over the parapet and rushing for their nearest opponent. Down the Germans went, for our boys had not much time to take prisoners. This was left to others told off for that duty. The boys are still in action, and have never lost an inch of the ground captured, although the enemy used his best troops against them in counter attacks. The Irish Division displayed great gallantry, and are thoroughly worthy of all that has been said about them. It was very sad about Sergeant McCombe. He was a fine soldier, and one that cannot well be replaced. It was when leading his platoon into action that he met his death. His officer had been wounded, and he at once rushed forward and took over command. Such deeds like these are worthy of the highest honour, because it happened at a time when we were being pressed. Such pluck and daring as shown by his fine example encouraged his men so much that they would have fought to the last man, and I think it can be truly said that battles are won by those who fall. 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: GaryO on March 31, 2014, 10:49:11 PM
Hi all.  Has anybody any advice of where I might look for information on my Great Grandfather John O'Brien who served with 2nd Batt Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers.  A brother Robert was killed with the Highland Light Infantry (Coleraine memorial).  There was two Samuel's (RI Fusiliers and RI Rifles) and Thomas (RI Fusiliers).  If it is any help they originated from Killowen Coleraine.
Have tried the RIF Museum search facility but no hits for O'Brien.  Also tried the National Archives search facility which showed many J O'Brien's but am wary of requesting copies of medal cards as they are £3.60 a pop and there was no way of telling which of the many was my relative.
Any tips of information gratefully received.  Thank you. Gary
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Sean T Traynor on April 01, 2014, 12:42:32 AM
Gary O, I have posted your enquiry on Coleraine Branch NIFHS facebook page just in case any locals have any info. Sean TT at https://www.facebook.com/colerainenifhs
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: CMcG on April 01, 2014, 05:06:33 AM

... Has anybody any advice of where I might look for information on my Great Grandfather John O'Brien who served with 2nd Batt Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers ...


The closest I can find is Pte. John O'Brien, a metal turner by trade, born in Killowen, reg. no. 10652,  Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers.  His father was also called John, in 1916 living at Killowen Street, Coleraine (at that point John Junior seemed to be in the Convalascent Home, Holywood).

Attested at Coleraine in what looks like February 1914, aged 17. Just over 5'3" tall, 108lbs in weight, fair complexion, blue eyes, auburn hair.

Other details available, but best to check with you first if this is your John or not.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: CMcG on April 01, 2014, 05:31:58 AM

...  John O'Brien, a metal turner by trade ... father was also called John, in 1916 living at Killowen Street, Coleraine ...


Couldn't find them at Killowen Street in 1911, but is this them (John junior's occupation fits)?

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Coleraine/Court_in_Rear_of_Shuttle_Hill_/588769/
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: GaryO on April 01, 2014, 06:22:29 PM
Hi Sean and CMcG
That is the guy I am looking for, he appeared on the 1901 and 1911 census at Shuttle Hill which is a continuation of Killowen Street.  I did a visit to Coleraine about a year ago and saw evidence of the family at the local CoI churchyard.  I was aware his brother had been killed in action but it did not occur to me that he would also have joined up until very recently (oo0s).  A random search led to his connection with the Royal Irish Fusilliers and your assistance has been a great help in taking my search further.  Now I have his army number I can get his medals cards but any other information you might obtain would be gratefully received.
Thanks also for posting my interest at Coleraine FHS, I was going to join the other eventing but they were only accepting Paypal payments and I don't have an account.  They also have a cd of Coleraine Chronical births, deaths and amrriages which I hope to buy soon.
Looks like things are progressing well.
Speak soon, Gary
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: CMcG on April 02, 2014, 04:48:28 AM


GaryO, I've sent you a pm.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: HilaryJaneClarke on April 25, 2014, 02:41:05 PM
James Melville,Sergeant,9609,died at the Battle of the Somme,july 14th,1916,remembered at Thiepval Memorial for the Missing,my great uncle.His Father Robert Melville,Private enlisted 1860s.1870,St.Annes Barracks,Gillingham,Kent.1871,Landguard Fort,Felixstowe,Suffolk.1875,Curragh Army Camp,Kildare,discharged 1878,my great grandfather.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Quigs on June 19, 2014, 06:35:41 PM
Hi Quigs...

Only two men of that name served with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers in the Great War.

20963, Pte Patrick Quigley, R Innisk Fus - later served as T/422317, Pte Patrick Quigley, Army Service Corps.

The other, 7/28605, Pte Patrick Quigley, 7th (Service) Battalion, Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers. He subsequently served with the Labour Corps as 383747, Pte P. Quigley and then as GS/108953, Pte P. Quigley, Royal Fusiliers.

There is a book called 'Three Cheers for the Derrys' - all about the 10th Inniskilling Fusiliers in the Great War. As the name indicates, they recruited for that Battalion from Derry. I have a copy, but not to hand, so will check and get back to you.

Personally I think the first one is your man - the 7th Battalion was raised in Omagh.

Will get back to you.

Best Wishes,

A.R.

Hello AR

I don't know how I missed this but thank you very much for the information.  I will have a look for the service records and the book.

Many thanks
Quigs

Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Emerald2393 on July 05, 2014, 11:04:20 PM
My great grandfather, Joseph Moore, in 1911 census family lived at Ariel Street Belfast.  Awarded Bronze Medal  Joseph Moore Birth Place Shankhill, Co. Antrim  Death Date  4 Aug 1917  Death PlaceFrance and Flanders   Enlistment Place  Belfast  Rank: Private   Regiment: Royal Inniskilling  Fusiliers  Battalion: 8th Battalion   Regimental Number: 27092[/size]  Type of Casualty  Killed in action  Theatre of War  Western European Theatre  ]
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: davethebear on July 08, 2014, 09:55:20 PM
hi .I'm looking for info on my great uncle who served with the derrys at the somme on 1st july .
he was killed on 4/10/16 and is buried at pond farm cemetery 15 miles south of ypres and well north of the somme.
anyone got any info as to why they where up in that vicinity just 3 months after the somme battle started .
I know he came through the somme battle and was killed outright by a trench mortar so wasn't moved up for medical reasons.
I do know that the 36th and 18th irish batt fought side by side at messinnes in 1917 .
were they moved up to prepare for that perhaps?
any help on this or his service records appreciated.
his details are as follow
corp john (jack) adair    no 15264  10th batt royal Enniskillen fusiliers.

Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: fiftywinds on August 01, 2014, 10:14:51 AM
My Great Grandfather Patrick Callaghan (born 1866) served with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers. I have contacted the museum at Enniskillen and am waiting on records from them. Very helpful. He fought in the 2nd Boer War and left the service in time to marry his sweetheart. I always thought he was born in Glasgow (there seems to be a family connection to Belfast/Falls Rd area) but I wonder where he would have been recruited.

Fiftywinds
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: CBare52 on August 10, 2014, 03:36:01 PM
You wrote: "From the, units, and 1914-1915 medal and campaign dates, I may be able to tell you what battalion he served in, and where and when, I can certainly narrow it down a bit when I have time."

Just wondering if you have found anything else about Thomas Patrick Burke.  My cousin only has his Silver medal and he's in the process of moving from Plymouth to Newcastle.

Cheers
Sandy
Title: Re: Pte. Thomas P.Burke Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: CBare52 on August 11, 2014, 02:09:05 AM
 

I LOVE it when somebody says, maternal grandfather, instead of just grandfather, it's just so much more comprehensible
Is it of any use ?!  :) , are you kidding, most people don't know more than a regiment, if that. !
I'll bet that you've even got his medals, another rare occurrence if you do.
All the info is exactly as you say, Thomas P. Burke, rank Pte. = Private.
The first theatre of war that he served in was Gallipoli in Turkey, after which his unit probably went to France and served in the battle of the Somme, and or other battles.
He landed in Gallipoli on the 7th August 1915.
He has the 3 standard Campaign Medals, the British Victory medal, the British War Medal, and the 1914-1915  Star, plus of course, the Silver War Badge, which you named correctly, it is also sometimes unofficially called the Silver Wound Badge.
From the, units, and 1914-1915 medal and campaign dates, I may be able to tell you what battalion he served in, and where and when, I can certainly narrow it down a bit when I have time.


Just wondering if you have found anything else about Thomas Patrick Burke.  My cousin only has his Silver medal and he's in the process of moving from Plymouth to Newcastle.

Cheers
Sandy
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: mcmac11 on October 16, 2014, 09:19:11 PM
Hi I am looking for confirmation on my paternal great grandfather whom it is believed was in R I F .I have recently found a marriage cert giving his occupation as being in R I F and photographs one of which he  has a large R I F  emblem tatooed on his chest and one in dress uniform also one which looks like he is in India .What is puzzling to me is he was born in South Leith and lived in Glasgow by most of the info i have seen on this site its mainly irish men who signed up for R I F  I don't know if you would be able to tell me if indeed he was in R I F. His name was Peter Mclaren born 8/9/1875 born South Leith I do not have any more other than he died 1933 in Glasgow I can attach photos if you wish .Many thanks
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: John Harvest on October 17, 2014, 12:40:10 PM
re post 397
Hi I am looking for confirmation on my paternal great grandfather whom it is believed was in R I F .I have recently found a marriage cert giving his occupation as being in R I F and photographs one of which he  has a large R I F  emblem tatooed on his chest and one in dress uniform also one which looks like he is in India .What is puzzling to me is he was born in South Leith and lived in Glasgow by most of the info i have seen on this site its mainly irish men who signed up for R I F  I don't know if you would be able to tell me if indeed he was in R I F. His name was Peter Mclaren born 8/9/1875 born South Leith I do not have any more other than he died 1933 in Glasgow I can attach photos if you wish .Many thanks

RIF ?...Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers...or...Royal Irish Fusiliers. ?

What was the badge, a castle, or a harp. ?

When did he marry. ?

Did he have any tattoos on his arms. ?
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: mcmac11 on October 17, 2014, 07:10:27 PM
Hi i apoligise the info regarding my great grandfather being in the iniskillen fusiliers was not on his marriage cert it must be in another cert which i can't locate right now .i can't tell by the photo if he has tattoo on his arm but he has full chest tattoo if you would like to see photos i can e-mail them for you to have a look .My grt grandfather was married to Mary Mcguiness Collins on the 7/6/1895 in Bridgeton Glasgow
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: old3wheeler on October 17, 2014, 09:43:59 PM
hi .I'm looking for info on my great uncle who served with the derrys at the somme on 1st july .
he was killed on 4/10/16 and is buried at pond farm cemetery 15 miles south of ypres and well north of the somme.
anyone got any info as to why they where up in that vicinity just 3 months after the somme battle started .
I know he came through the somme battle and was killed outright by a trench mortar so wasn't moved up for medical reasons.
I do know that the 36th and 18th irish batt fought side by side at messinnes in 1917 .
were they moved up to prepare for that perhaps?
any help on this or his service records appreciated.
his details are as follow
corp john (jack) adair    no 15264  10th batt royal Enniskillen fusiliers.

HI Dave , MY great uncle is also buried in Pond Farm Cemetery, I was privileged enough to visit the cemetery in 2006, I looked at all the graves of those from Ireland who give their lives in WW1 for their country, Pond Farm is a very quiet and tranquil place, Very sad to see how  many young men died for their country and so young, my great uncle John was killed on the 05/05/17 aged 21.
  He was part of the 14th Batt RIR (YCV) He was also killed by shrapnel from a shell fired from German lines, His brother Matthew (my Grandfather} spoke to him a few hours before he died, they were both on duty in the same sector and its said he told john to be wary of German shells being fired occasionally , regards ken
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: JacquelineMcLaughlin on October 25, 2014, 04:57:04 AM
My Father,  Andrew John McLaughlin, born July 4, 1899 Newtownstewart, Ireland was a member of the Skins and was in the Battle of the Somme, wounded and survived.  I don't have any other information .   Is it possible that you might be able to tell me more about his regiment etc?  Thank you.  (signed)Jacqueline McLaughlin Herendeen  (USA)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: DMW on October 25, 2014, 07:20:26 PM
JacquelineMcLaughlin - First of all Welcome to Belfast Forum.  My dad born in 1895 in Castlebane, Co. Donegal was a member of the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers (R I F ) also served at the Battle of the Somme. Castlebane is just over the border from Newtownstewart (of course these was no border then). I have tried to get some information on his service too. Try the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers Museum website. They have a "Trace a Relative" section on there...  In part of my research I came across a book - "Ballyshannon Belcoo Bertincourt " - The History of the 11th Battalion of the Royal Inniskilling Fusilers (Donegal & Fermanagh Volunteers) in World War One - by W.J.Canning. I just checked the back of the book -  Roll of Honour - 11th Battalion .  On that list is a McLaughlin, J.  Cross, Co.Donegal.  (who knows?) -  by the way I am Des Whyte in Hamilton,Canada.(DMW)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: John Harvest on October 26, 2014, 01:06:24 PM
My Father,  Andrew John McLaughlin, born July 4, 1899 Newtownstewart, Ireland was a member of the Skins and was in the Battle of the Somme, wounded and survived.  I don't have any other information .   Is it possible that you might be able to tell me more about his regiment etc?  Thank you.  (signed)Jacqueline McLaughlin Herendeen  (USA)

A lot of WW1 service records were destroyed in the WW2 Blitz on London, but all of the WW1 campaign medal records have survived, and even if a man served in more than one regiment, he would have a different regimental number on each separate unit, but all of his numbers and units would be listed on his medal records.

There is no WW1 campaign medal record for anyone surnamed McLaughlin with a first forename  of Andrew serving in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers there aren't many medal records for anyone called Andrew McLaughlin serving in other regiments either.

There were 64 people called McLaughlin who served outside of Britain in WW1 in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers, ( I'm surprised that there weren't more ).

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_col=200&_cr1=WO%20372&_hb=tna&_dt=M&_ln=McLaughlin&_crp=inniskilling&_ps=60 (http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_col=200&_cr1=WO%20372&_hb=tna&_dt=M&_ln=McLaughlin&_crp=inniskilling&_ps=60)

Check it out for yourself.  http://nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/medal-index-cards-ww1.htm (http://nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/medal-index-cards-ww1.htm)

The Battle of the Somme lasted for almost 6 months and it started on the 1st of July 1916, and if he served in that, or even in the army, he must have enlisted well under age, and in fact, they weren't even supposed to be sent overseas unless they were at least 18.

He might have spoofed his name to avoid his parents having him discharged from the army for enlisting underage, ( for which he could have been imprisoned with hard labour ).

Was he discharged as a result of his wounds ?, if he was, he would probably have been awarded a Silver War Badge, and records for that are available, but of course if he had spoofed his name...

http://www.1914-1918.net/soldiers/swbrecords.html (http://www.1914-1918.net/soldiers/swbrecords.html)

His campaign medals would have had his name, number, rank, and unit, inscribed on them.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: hicky on October 26, 2014, 09:54:43 PM
  Have always been told of a great Uncle Samuel Teeny who signed up to fight in ww1 and died in the later
          stages of the war has anybody any info on this  man ???     
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: valkerr on October 27, 2014, 03:26:23 AM

Would this be him at 12 in 1901?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Shankhill/Tobergill_Street/950340/
Residents of a house 36 in Tobergill Street (Shankhill, Antrim)
Teeney   Maggie   8   Female   Daughter   Church of England   County Antrim
Teeney   Selena   1   Female   Daughter   Church of England   County Antrim
Teeney   Annie   6   Female   Daughter   Church of England   County Antrim
Teeney   Sarah   17   Female   Daughter   Church of England   County Antrim   Layer in Spinning Mill
Teeney   Samuel 47   Male   Head of Family   Church of England   County Antrim   Tailor
Teeney   Thomas 15   Male   Son   Church of England   County Antrim   Doffer in Spinning Mill
Teeney   Albert   4   Male   Son   Church of England   County Antrim
Teeney   Samuel   12   Male   Son   Church of England   County Antrim   Doffer in Spinning Mill
Teeney   Maggie   46   Female   Wife   Church of England   County Antrim

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/572984/TEENEY,%20S
TEENEY, S
Rank:Private
Service No:3158
Date of Death:01/04/1917
Regiment/Service:Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers 2nd Bn.
Grave Reference: I. D. 25. Cemetery:SAVY BRITISH CEMETERY
Additional Information:

Another possibility?
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/4040732/TEENEY,%20S
TEENEY, S
Rank:Private
Service No:4943
Date of Death:28/06/1916
Age:26
Regiment/Service:Royal Munster Fusiliers 8th Bn.
Grave Reference: I. B. 1. Cemetery:ST. PATRICK'S CEMETERY, LOOS
Additional Information: Husband of Elizabeth Furse (formerly Teeney), of Thomas St., Mitchelstown, Co. Cork.

Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: JacquelineMcLaughlin on October 27, 2014, 10:32:27 PM
My father John McLaughlin, born July 4 1899,  Newtownstewart, Co Tyrone, Ireland (Northern Ireland) (parents William and Matilda McLaughlin of Newtownstewart.   and   served in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers, in the Battle of the Somme  in  Artillery.  While he insisted underage I believe he turned 17 during this time.  He was wounded and told me he was dragged back to aid by 2 captured German soldiers.   I have a pictues of him in his uniform and I also have his Silver War Badge.   Could you tell me anything more about his service,  i.e.  rank,  regiment,  etc.?
Thank you .     Note:   His first name was Andrew however that was not the name he "went by" .  His parents and family always called him John or "Jack".
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: John Harvest on October 28, 2014, 07:23:56 AM
My father John McLaughlin, born July 4 1899,  Newtownstewart, Co Tyrone, Ireland (Northern Ireland) (parents William and Matilda McLaughlin of Newtownstewart.   and   served in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers, in the Battle of the Somme  in  Artillery.  While he insisted underage I believe he turned 17 during this time.  He was wounded and told me he was dragged back to aid by 2 captured German soldiers.   I have a pictues of him in his uniform and I also have his Silver War Badge.   Could you tell me anything more about his service,  i.e.  rank,  regiment,  etc.?
Thank you .     Note:   His first name was Andrew however that was not the name he "went by" .  His parents and family always called him John or "Jack".

Re post 406 ( above ) and re related post 401

It doesn't much matter what he was calling himself, his Silver War Badge (SWB ) has a unique SWB badge issue serial number on the reverse, and that number links directly to his military identity in his records.

Nec Aspera Terrant   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Inniskilling_Fusiliers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Inniskilling_Fusiliers)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: ditzi on November 09, 2014, 02:39:57 PM
My grandfather was in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers both before and during WW1, details I have are below.

6519 Thomas Cooper

Enlisted 13 January 1900 served until 31st Jan 1908.
Re-enlisted 5 August 1914 and served in France,
transferred to the Royal Irish Regiment in April 1917
transferred to the Labour Corps in May 1917  Served the rest of the war in France and returned home to Belfast in 1919.

Thanks
Ditz
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Atholl on December 10, 2014, 09:27:58 PM
Hi everybody posting for the first time from Inverness Scotland. My G/Grandfather James Alexander Cooke served I think with the Royal Inniskillen Fusiliers ( possibly 10th as from Coleraine ?) I got a copy of the MIC to discover 3 James Cooke's but no middle name to help. Does the book Three Cheers for the Derry's have full names or anything that would aid my research ?  .. Notably he was the father of William Cook who ended up playing 248 times for for Everton & was capped 15 times for Northern Ireland .. If anyone could shed any light I'd be very grateful.

He was born 20 Nov 1882 in Donegal as far as I've been able to establish. Married in Articlave to a Hannah Pollock around 1907.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: valkerr on December 10, 2014, 11:35:26 PM

Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage   21 Nov 1905
Groom Name   James A COOKE
Bride Name   Hannah J  POLLOCK
Church   Dunboe First Presbyterian Church
Parish   Dunboe
Civil District   Coleraine
County   Londonderry

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Coleraine/Waterside__Part_of_/588717/
Census Years1911LondonderryColeraineWaterside (Part of)Residents of a house
Residents of a house 10 in Waterside (Part of) (Coleraine, Londonderry)
Show all information
Surname   Forename   Age   Sex   Relation to head   Religion
Cooke   James A   27   Male   Head of Family   Presbyterian
Cooke   Hannah J   37   Female   Wife   Presbyterian
Cooke   Joseph D   4   Male   Son   Presbyterian
Cooke   James A   3   Male   Son   Presbyterian
Cooke   William   1   Male   Son   Presbyterian
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: rathlin man on December 22, 2014, 03:03:14 PM
All army records are on Find My Past. They are no longer at the Archives in Kew.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: John Harvest on December 22, 2014, 03:12:58 PM
All army records are on Find My Past. They are no longer at the Archives in Kew.
That will come as a surprise to Kew.
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r/?_q=WO+363 (http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r/?_q=WO+363)

That's just the 1914 to 1920 army service records, there are also service records at Kew that pre date 1914 and post date 1920.

Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: fiftywinds on January 20, 2015, 09:39:41 PM
I have since recieved a really lovely pack from Enniskillen Castle Museum with a huge amount of information and a lovely letter. They mentioned that Patrick had a tattoo between his thumb and forefinger. Someone mentioned that soldiers that had been a POW or in prison often tattooed themselves. Any information would be appreciated.

My Great Grandfather Patrick Callaghan (born 1866) served with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers. I have contacted the museum at Enniskillen and am waiting on records from them. Very helpful. He fought in the 2nd Boer War and left the service in time to marry his sweetheart. I always thought he was born in Glasgow (there seems to be a family connection to Belfast/Falls Rd area) but I wonder where he would have been recruited.

Fiftywinds
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: davethebear on January 30, 2015, 01:14:45 AM

hi ken ,thanks for the reply mate.i've read quite a bit on this since I posted the original message and the derrys were based in the vicinity of plug street (ploegsteert wood), following their movement from the somme area in august 1916, around the time of jack adairs death .this is just a couple of miles from pond farm cemetery so it all fits in.i knew he was killed by a mortar and after recently getting a copy of "three cheers for the derrys" the descriptions by the old soldiers  the mortars destructive powers are hellish to say the least.
the 14th rir,your great uncles unit, were in the front line at that time with the derrys doing the supply work as they prepared for the future battles around the ypres area.many men were lost to mortars ,bullets and gas attacks on a daily basis ,even though the plug street area was considered relatively quiet.

I think I may be going over again this year and will certainly visit pond farm if I do.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: old3wheeler on January 31, 2015, 11:37:45 AM
hi ken ,thanks for the reply mate.i've read quite a bit on this since I posted the original message and the derrys were based in the vicinity of plug street (ploegsteert wood), following their movement from the somme area in august 1916, around the time of jack adairs death .this is just a couple of miles from pond farm cemetery so it all fits in.i knew he was killed by a mortar and after recently getting a copy of "three cheers for the derrys" the descriptions by the old soldiers  the mortars destructive powers are hellish to say the least.
the 14th rir,your great uncles unit, were in the front line at that time with the derrys doing the supply work as they prepared for the future battles around the ypres area.many men were lost to mortars ,bullets and gas attacks on a daily basis ,even though the plug street area was considered relatively quiet.

I think I may be going over again this year and will certainly visit pond farm if I do.

Ta for the reply Dave, ive since got my hands on the 14th Batt war dairys on disc, I was able to identify the incident in which my Great Uncle John lost his life, It seems he and several others had been sent out collect rations at  around 1.00 AM , The Germans had been shelling fairly heavily from about 9.00 pm , there was a bit of a lull it seems so a ration patrol was sent out.
Sadly they were caught by a shell and John died and three others injured, The chap writing the dairy commented One soilder killed ,three injured and the " Bloody rations blown sky high " Rations were obviously more important than men ,  If you do go Dave johns grave is on the outside row next to the path if I remember ,  If the good lord spares me lol id like to go back to Pond Farm on May 5th 2017 as it would be the 100th anniversary of Johns death, So ill get saving m8 lol , regards ken
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2z7eqyp.jpg)

Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: mcgannje on September 13, 2015, 10:28:26 AM
My Great Grandfather Dennis McEvoy served with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers (1st Battalion). Signed up in 1896 and fought in Second Boer War. Wounded in 1900 and discharged. His regimental number was 5373. The museum are sending me his service records.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: wilfam on September 20, 2015, 09:46:50 AM
my enquiry is a bit different but I'm hoping someone can help. My grandfather was the Ordnance Officer at the Castle Barracks in Enniskillen (where my father was born) and then the job moved to Carrickfergus Castle - all still Ordnance work for the Enniskilling Fusiliers. I have a census record for the Castle in Enniskillen (1911), listing my father, his parents and all the siblings - but I don't know how long they lived there and I don't know when they moved into the small residence at Carrickfergus Castle. I can't get any information about how long they lived in either place - certainly the people at the museum in Enniskillen were incredibly helpful but couldn't get me with the information I'm chasing. They have no records of any residents at the Castle.
Carrickfergus Castle museum can't provide anything at all nor can the Carrickfergus Borough Council - no one seems to know where these records are kept - maybe there aren't any!!! Carrickfergus Council suggested I contact the Regiment but my grandfather wasn't actually in the military, it was a lay position - probably within the public service. I had seen somewhere that there is a historical society in Carrick but I didn't get any reply from them when I sent an email - it seemed to me they would be good to ask for help on this. I'd be very glad to get some idea or info from the forum.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: CMcG on September 20, 2015, 12:06:15 PM
Hope folk will respond, but you didn't give any names.  :)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: wilfam on September 20, 2015, 12:13:29 PM
Hope folk will respond, but you didn't give any names.  :)

Thanks, the family name is Smith
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: valkerr on September 21, 2015, 11:43:36 PM
Really? That's the most you can share when you're asking for help?
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: wilfam on September 22, 2015, 01:46:40 PM
Valkerr - not sure how much more info I have other than I described in my first post. The help I'm seeking is about where the records might be kept for the tenants of the two castles. If I know where to look I hope to find out how long my family lived there. Thanks for replying.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: MaggieP on November 14, 2015, 05:02:50 PM
I have just discovered that my Great Grandfather James Gunton Cable was a Private (No. 40058) with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers from his marriage certificate dated 1875.  He was born and brought up in Norfolk,[although later settled in Belfast] so I am curious about why an English man would join the Inniskillings. 
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: euphplayer on December 11, 2015, 12:04:20 PM
Hi I have just found my great grandfathers victory medal from ww1 . He was 26951 W handy, h
e lived in the northeast of england so it seems strange he was in an Irish regiment.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: scotmum on February 07, 2016, 12:40:36 PM
I have a census record for the Castle in Enniskillen (1911)

I take it you also have the 1901, so know they were at Enniskillen for at least 10 years:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Fermanagh/Enniskillen_Urban/Castle_Street/1364301/

Might not be anything, but given they married c1899, I would think it was certainly worth checking, even if only to rule it out, the marriage of a George Robert Smith to a Mary M Simpson in Tullamore 1898, especially as there were barracks there that were sometimes used by British Army until at least 1914.  There are about a dozen or so other Robert Smith marriages in timescale to also consider.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Kathleen on August 23, 2016, 11:22:45 PM
Answer to people in the Royal Enniskilling Fusiliers. Yes my granda Patrick J. Beattie joined up at 18 and fought in the Indian War, Boer War, Great War . He was a 20 year man. He met my grannie when he was in the army. She even went to Johannasburg with him. .didn't stay long though, she left only after a year. Lots of Irish guys joined up, there was no jobs for R.C.'s in the bad old days. Idid get his papers from Kew,but I lost them during my move. So add me to your list. Thanks Kathleen Saoirse
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: James James on August 24, 2016, 03:25:15 AM
Answer to people in the Royal Enniskilling Fusiliers. Yes my granda Patrick J. Beattie joined up at 18 and fought in the Indian War, Boer War, Great War . He was a 20 year man. He met my grannie when he was in the army. She even went to Johannasburg with him. .didn't stay long though, she left only after a year. Lots of Irish guys joined up, there was no jobs for R.C.'s in the bad old days. Idid get his papers from Kew,but I lost them during my move. So add me to your list. Thanks Kathleen Saoirse
Where do you get the second forename initial of J from. None of his civil or military records include a second forename initial. ? What year and place of birth and what parentage have you got for him, and is that information, if you have it, a product of family knowledge, or is it from research. ?
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Kevathome on September 14, 2016, 04:04:02 PM
Hello Folks,
I am trying to trace information about my father - Thomas James Moore who I understand was in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers during WW2 (s/n 698019 I believe from research).
I have info about parents, Date of birth, but his birth cert is in the name of James Moore and I don't know when he became Thomas James Moore.
Any help much appreciated.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: James James on September 14, 2016, 09:18:25 PM
Hello Folks,
I am trying to trace information about my father - Thomas James Moore who I understand was in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers during WW2 (s/n 698019 I believe from research).
I have info about parents, Date of birth, but his birth cert is in the name of James Moore and I don't know when he became Thomas James Moore. Any help much appreciated.
So what makes you believe that he used the name Thomas James Moore, and what makes you believe that was his service number, and what makes you believe that his birth certificate was in the name of James Moore and have you got his service record.? Was he a pre WW2 serviceman, or did he enlist during WW2.?

That number is wrong for the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers of that time period. it should be a 7 digit number, so it's either incomplete, or else if it is accurate, it was issued to a soldier in a cavalry regiment, and if so, it was likely issued around the first half of WW2.

If he did serve in a cavalry regiment, it might have been the 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards, which during WW2 was an armoured regiment.[/size]
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Kevathome on September 15, 2016, 12:41:08 PM
Sorry, my bad! Service number 6980179 was obtained off the Forces War Records.co.uk web site for Thomas James Moore. I remember that his mail always said T.J also have a copy of my parents marriage certificate saying T.J. although he called himself Jim. I don't know that the TJ of that s/n is my Dad, that's why I would appreciate any help you can provide.

I requested a copy of his birth cert and it came back as James with the correct DofB in Aug 1921 and parents names which seem to tie up with the 1911 census.

Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: CarlNielsen on October 19, 2017, 06:16:53 PM
My wife's uncle, William Alfred Woods. It says in his marriage registration, (Dec 6, 1940, in Edinburgh), that he was a private. He was from Ballinamallard in County Fermanagh. Would his unit have been stationed in Edinburgh at that time?
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: James James on October 19, 2017, 11:22:09 PM
Take a look here...

http://www.inniskillingsmuseum.com/history-of-the-inniskilling-fusiliers/ (http://www.inniskillingsmuseum.com/history-of-the-inniskilling-fusiliers/)

http://www.inniskillingsmuseum.com/trace-a-relative/ (http://www.inniskillingsmuseum.com/trace-a-relative/)

If you have his date of birth, and if that and his name combination was unique, or even if he was in that regiment at that time and his name combination in the regiment was unique, then that should be enough for the U.K. MOD Ministry of Defence to be able to correctly identify his service record.

https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records (https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records)

Why would his regiment's location have to have been in the same place that he got married in ?,... soldiers got leave. !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Inniskilling_Fusiliers#Inter_War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Inniskilling_Fusiliers#Inter_War)

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/british-army-operations-second-world-war/ (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/british-army-operations-second-world-war/)
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: CarlNielsen on October 20, 2017, 12:40:11 AM
Great information. thanks.

I was probably thinking if he were on leave he would have been with his wife and two children in Ireland. Or, maybe not.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: James James on October 20, 2017, 01:51:40 AM
On leave with his wife and children in Ireland, whilst he's getting married in Scotland. ?!

Was that really meant to sound how it does sound, and to suggest what it does appear to suggest. ?!

Have you got his birth record, and do you know for certain that definitely was his regiment. ?

If so then that should be enough for the U.K. MOD to be able to correctly identify his service record, which costs £30.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: CarlNielsen on October 20, 2017, 03:52:42 AM
Yes there is some evidence indicating that may be correct. I was just trying to investigate further, and am curious why he was in Scotland. It says on the Marriage register that he was a private in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers. From what I've read it's an Irish Unit. So just wondered would he have been in Scotland on military duty. There was a war going on in 1940.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: SimonMFoster on March 31, 2018, 12:45:45 PM
My grandfather was in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers both before and during WW1, details I have are below.

6519 Thomas Cooper

Enlisted 13 January 1900 served until 31st Jan 1908.
Re-enlisted 5 August 1914 and served in France,
transferred to the Royal Irish Regiment in April 1917
transferred to the Labour Corps in May 1917  Served the rest of the war in France and returned home to Belfast in 1919.

Thanks
Ditz

It seems that we are related! Thomas Cooper's sister, Annie Cooper, married William John Tipping in 1893 (which is why she doesn't appear with Thomas in the 1901 census). Annie and William are my great grandparents. Therefore, your grandfather is my great great uncle. Therefore, we are second cousins once removed.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: krimmler on March 31, 2018, 02:42:07 PM
MOSES CHAMBERS 1ST BATTALION 9870 KILLED IN ACTION GALLIPOLI 21/08/15

GEORGE CHAMBERS  FUSILLER 6980863 JOINED 4/1/1940
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: SimonMFoster on August 11, 2018, 10:50:58 AM
I have just discovered that my Great Grandfather James Gunton Cable was a Private (No. 40058) with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers from his marriage certificate dated 1875.  He was born and brought up in Norfolk,[although later settled in Belfast] so I am curious about why an English man would join the Inniskillings.

It happens. My granduncle was born in Luton, and joined the Royal Irish Rifles in 1914. The only connection that his family had to Ireland was that his brother (my grandfather) met my grandmother (who was born in Belfast) in 1928.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: James James on August 12, 2018, 04:53:25 AM
He could, and probably did, enlist in England, because the 2nd Battalion was stationed in Tidworth at the start of WW1.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: RichardMK on November 17, 2018, 11:25:07 AM

I recently inherited a pocket watch and found it belonged to my Great Great Grandfather, Henry Staples.
It was given to him in 1905 and is engraved:
"Presented by the Officers of Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers to Lance Corporal Staples as a token of their recognition of his services. June 1905"

I believe he was in the Fusiliers until 1905 based on the above, but not sure when he would have joined.
The note with the watch states he met his wife, Ellen, whilst serving, and the 1901 census lists the following on the same page:
Henry Staples, age 37 - Head, Born London England
Ellen Staples, age 36 - Wife, Born Ireland
Alfred Staples, age 11 - Son, Born Portsmouth, England
George Noel Staples. age 5, born Kinsale, Ireland

I believe he was enlisted for around 25 years total - but another census has him stationed in Portsmouth - which would explain why his sons were born in different places.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: RichardMK on November 17, 2018, 11:46:02 AM

Just to add - looks like his "Army number" was 486 having looked on the Museum's trace a relative page. Think I'll be submitting a research order soon :)
Regards,
Richard
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: sam barry on November 17, 2018, 11:55:52 AM
George Noel's birth:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02177/1824585.pdf
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: RichardMK on November 17, 2018, 01:08:52 PM

Thank you! I really need to work on my "reading old writing" abilities though - I've no idea what that says for Ellen's maiden name!
Did manage to find some more information on George though now that I have his date of birth - nice to find some ancestors that were aircraft fitters, and adds to the reason for some old sketch books amongst the items I inherited that were full of aircraft pictures are drawings!
Thanks again!
Richard
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Highway66 on November 17, 2018, 01:32:39 PM
(http://i67.tinypic.com/2s0y5nn.jpg)

Burma 1945
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Rubikcube on November 18, 2018, 03:16:55 PM
Hi my great grandfather on mother's side served in 2nd battalion Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers. He enlisted in Ballymena but died from his wounds 31/10/1914.
Leslie Houston aged 28.
Buried in Bailieul Communal Cemetery Nord .
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Familyresearcher5000 on November 20, 2018, 02:19:54 PM
Not got all the information

My Grandfather

Francis Alfred Foster Birth 2 March 1897 Tullyquin, Glebe, Co Tyrone.

Private 41509

Royal Irish Fusiliers

Wounded at Kemmel (Somme)

Partially blinded.

Any information anyone has would be most appreciated

Regards F researcher
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: kiwi2011 on November 28, 2018, 09:42:38 PM
Mark Duff was with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers? He was also a POW in 1918 in Germany. He was a sergeant, regimental #2817.
Title: Re: Did you or a relative serve with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers?
Post by: Kathleen Donnelly on December 14, 2018, 08:55:25 PM
Hello I would be glad to give you the info:

My grandfather Patrick Joseph Beattie Sergeant belonged to Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers

H served in India,actually was in Peshaware even that long ago.;
Also served in the Boer War
And in the Great War

He was also in Chelse(sp) Hospital for a couple of years. He returned home in 1939 around April. They told me he cried when he heard War was declared and said, it would not be like any other War.

My email addy is
[email protected]