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Title: richard stevenson
Post by: lynnara on July 20, 2011, 05:27:33 PM
hi im looking into my husbands side of the family  all i know is  his grandfather came from matilda street sandyrow belfast  and his, father was called william , richard left and came over to scotland but  passed away when my husband was a little boy we have heard william might have been a fisherman ?  so thats all we know  :( i would really appreciate any help any one can give  richard must have been in belfast in the 1940s i think thanks : )
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: JimG on July 20, 2011, 06:57:21 PM
do look up the 1911 census for Stevenson No 32 matilda Street Co Antrim
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911 (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911)
Head of the house is William in his 30's with a son Richard aged 12
The house has many lodgers inc an Andrew Stevenson aged 70, but not marked as a relative.  Good luck, Jim
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: IRISHDIVA on July 20, 2011, 07:50:08 PM
 Below is what I found on the 1911 Census, at number 32 the a family called Burgess.

16 Matildia  Street, Sandy Row

Stevenson William 32 Male Head of Family – Occupation - SeaMan
Stevenson Bella 31 FemaleWife – Occupation - Wool Weaver
Stevenson Richard 12 Male Son
Stevenson Mary 10 Female Daughter
Stevenson Annie 6 Female Daughter
Stevenson Josephine2 Female Daughter
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: lynnara on July 21, 2011, 07:21:24 PM
thank you both so much for this information   i really appreciate it : ) this has given me a starting point   thank you again x

Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on July 27, 2011, 02:03:10 AM
Hello My name is Freda my Great grandfather was Richard Stevenson funny he married Lucinda Lyons
and his name is Stevenson she died and in 1916 he married Elizabeth McBride and he is Richard Steenson
in the 1901 census the spelling is wrong again and they have him down in Matilda street as Stenson
for example my great aunt agnes  spelling was egness but the family name has remained steenson
my email is
[email protected]
if you email will give you details
best wishes
Freda
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on July 27, 2011, 02:05:56 AM
sorry wrote my email wrong
[email protected]
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on July 27, 2011, 02:12:30 AM
also you will find them in 7 Matilda Street in 1911 under Steenson hope its the right family for you
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on July 27, 2011, 02:46:32 AM
now I am reading your mail more carefully not sure if our Richard is the one there seemed to be lots of cousins
around Matilda street and my own grandfathers home was 3  Matilda street
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: lynnara on July 31, 2011, 02:16:01 PM
thank you win 45 yes i think  it is a diffrent stevenson as richard came to scotland and married a girl from ayr, i dont know when richard left belfast  but im pretty sure he is the one at 16 matilda street  i am trying to find out what bella s maiden name was  i asked my husbands cousin but she dosent know much except  the name marshall  was her mothers middle name  and something about them being gypsys but she dosent know if this was just a story she got told ? i know william stevenson my husbands g grandfather stayed in belfast for the rest of his days  i dont know anything  else  thank you all so much for the replys : ) xx
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: lynnara on July 31, 2011, 02:31:16 PM
i was just wondering can anybody tell me where cilwater is in ireland i cant find it anywhere my gggg grandmother lived there but i cant seem to find a place called cilwater anywhere in ireland  thanks x
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on July 31, 2011, 03:30:55 PM
Hello again
the steensons or stevensons  seem to be same family and they also lived in lots of houses in Matilda Street my own Grandfather lived at no 9 no7 and finally no 3
I was wondering if a family connection as have grave details of a Agnes Steenson 9 Matilda Street Dec 1891
age 50 I believe she was our Richards Mother
but also in that Grave is A william Steenson 49 Matilda Street died 1930 age 70 the other names in the grave are stillborn children
my own grandfather had a brother called william he died in 1956 age 57 My brother is going to see my mums brother this week he is 80 his name is Richard Steenson and knows a lot shall ask about a william and bella
best wishes
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: apalachie on July 31, 2011, 07:25:18 PM
i was just wondering can anybody tell me where cilwater is in ireland i cant find it anywhere my gggg grandmother lived there but i cant seem to find a place called cilwater anywhere in ireland  thanks x
Lynnara, could the place you are looking be "Kilwaughter", if so it is near Larne.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/yourplaceandmine/antrim/A1098713.shtml (http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/yourplaceandmine/antrim/A1098713.shtml)
http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ShowFreePage.php?id=175

www.searchforancestors.com (http://www.searchforancestors.com) Free Ireland Genealogy Records (http://www.google.co.uk/url?url=http://www.searchforancestors.com/locality/ireland/&rct=j&sa=X&ei=OZ41Tt3VJ4Gk8QPc1cGHAg&sqi=2&ved=0CFUQ6QUoADAH&q=kilwaughter&usg=AFQjCNHBGmpbg834rNvali5OQ3XlAM5HnA)
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 01, 2011, 06:22:42 PM
William Andrew Stevenson married Isabella Morrison 1st November 1897 St Anne's C.O.I.
 
 
Children
Richard 1899
Mary Jane 1901
Agnes 1904
Annie 1905
Josephine Morrison 1909
William James 1911
John Leech 1914
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 01, 2011, 06:38:04 PM
There a marriage on www.ancestryireland.com (http://www.ancestryireland.com) which I think is their, but the wrong years been enter 1807
 
William father Richard
Isabella father John
 
 
According to the 1901 Richard & Isabella where born in Co ArmaghResidents of a house 13 in Hilland Street (St. George's Ward Belfast, Antrim)There's a birth for a William Andrew Stephenson 1878 Co armagh on http://ifhf.rootsireland.ie/ (http://ifhf.rootsireland.ie/)
Father Richard ,mother Agnes Davis
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 01, 2011, 07:01:41 PM
Found it
 
Name: William Andrew Stephenson
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 18 Aug 1878
Birthplace: Ireland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Richard Stephenson
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Agnes Davis Stephenson
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00745-8
System Origin: Ireland-EASy
Source Film Number: 256008
Reference Number: v 1-2 p 688
Collection: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881

Name: Hannah Jane Stephenson
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 14 Dec 1876
Birthplace: Lurgan, Armagh and Down, Ireland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Richard Stephenson
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Agnes Stephenson Davis
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00609-3
System Origin: Ireland-ODM
Source Film Number: 255962
Reference Number:
Collection: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881

Name: Margaret Anne Stevenson
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 15 Mar 1880
Birthplace: Ireland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Richard Stevenson
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Agnes Stevenson Davis
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01047-5
System Origin: Ireland-EASy
Source Film Number: 256043
Reference Number: v 1-2 p 732
Collection: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881

 
 
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 01, 2011, 07:14:34 PM
Stevenson, William (Donkeyman) RS2 No.496049.
Born: 1878-07-18, Lurgan, Co. Armagh, Ireland
Disch A No: 80179 Photo: f2-3
Notes: Renewal
Voyages:
1921-08-01 Kenbane Head (1919) ON 142492 of Belfast (Heyn, G, ex War Whippet)
Print full record details (pdf) (http://www.irishmariners.ie/printrec.php?id=496049) Print short record (http://www.irishmariners.ie/printrec.php?id=496049&exhib=y)
Stevenson, William (Donkeyman) RS2 No.404096.
Born: 1878-07-18, Lurgan, Co. Armagh, Ireland
Disch A No: 80179 Photo: f5
Notes: Cancelled, Renewal No:496049
Voyages:
1919-08-15 Melmore Head ON 142478 of Belfast (Heyn, G)
1919-09-27 Melmore Head ON 142478 of Belfast (Heyn, G)
1920-05-12 Lord Downshire ON 110514 of Belfast (Heyn, G)
1920-10-04 Rathlin Head ON 110510 of Belfast (Heyn, G)
1920-10-30 San Bruno ON 144219 of Glasgow (United Fruit Co)
http://www.irishmariners.ie/index.php (http://www.irishmariners.ie/index.php)
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 01, 2011, 09:06:53 PM
has to a family connection somewhere our Richard stevenson got married to Lucinda Lyons St Annes 1884
and the address is Hilland street
wonderful how people have found out so much info for you
freda
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 01, 2011, 09:21:49 PM
maura
would be be kind enough to see if you can see a birth for our richard stevenson he died 1936 age 71 so about 1865 said on the marriage details father Thomas Stevenson thought the mother may be agnes but not sure at all
sincere thanks
freda
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 02, 2011, 02:22:59 PM
Sorry Freda, tried everthing, nothing coming up for your Richards birth even with variants of his surname. Richards 1st marriage has him Stevenson, but his children births are down as Steenson, the 2nd marriage it's Steenson , so I think the 1st marriage is just a spelling mistake and the name is Steenson.
 
Richard state in 1901 born Belfast, 1911 co Down, theres only 1 birth I can find with a father Thomas Steenson and mother Agnes and that for a Joseph 1869, her maiden name was Robinson. There is births for children of Thomas Steenson and a Mary Smyth for around castlereagh area.
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 02, 2011, 03:05:03 PM
thank you so much it more than good of you to try the only way to find them in 1901 is to go to matilda street as they have stinson down and bad spelling of maidens names as surname the only reason thought of agnes was have  agnes steenson age 50 died a 9 matilda street 1891 so just assumed it may be his mother
I know he had a sister called Mary Anne who became Mary Anne Rea my own grandfather was Thomas William and was born 1905 its like Lucinda his wife I have searched ancestry every where and cant
find a lucinda lyons her father was John also Hilland street seems to vanish
sincere thanks for all your finds who knows the families of ours and other lady could be cousins
thanks again
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 02, 2011, 04:33:16 PM
He also had a brother William who living with Mary Anne Rea 1901, name spelt Sheenan. William John Steenson married Andrew Rea's sister Margaret Rea 21 st August 1905 St anne's.
 
Found a birth that would fit Mary
 
Name: Mary Ann Stenson
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 28 Aug 1866
Birthplace: 0351,BELFAST,ANTRIM,IRELAND
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Thomas Stenson
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Agnes Robinson
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C70129-2
System Origin: Ireland-ODM
Source Film Number: 101130
Reference Number:
Collection: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881

 
 
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: lynnara on August 02, 2011, 04:48:01 PM
thank you so much maura for all the information ,  i am trying to find out from family members if  richard had brothers and sisters  so i can narrow everything down ,you have gave me lots to go on  so thank you  and  freda i think you could be right : )  and also thank you apalachie i have been looking for cilwater lol for so long   and you have found it for me  so again thank you everyone i will keep you all updated  :smile: xx
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 02, 2011, 07:15:35 PM
Maura I am over the moon you found Mary Ann this confirms the Agnes from 9 Matilda Street buried 1891 Mary Ann stayed in number nine and it became the rea family home what you have found gives me a  name now for her mother
Thomas is not in the  grave with Agnes some Rea children who died young and her brother William
so excited to have a name for Richards mother
Freda
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 03, 2011, 04:35:31 AM
Maura which site do you use I paid for ancestry com and found nothing was hoping to find maybe a marriage for Thomas and Agnes Robinson they dont seem to have much Irish records think I will cancel
thanks again for finding Mary Ann and her Mother
Freda
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: OTTO on August 03, 2011, 10:00:40 AM
Maura which site do you use I paid for ancestry com and found nothing was hoping to find maybe a marriage for Thomas and Agnes Robinson they dont seem to have much Irish records think I will cancel
thanks again for finding Mary Ann and her Mother
Freda

A Thomas Stevenson married an Agnes Robinson on 19th Nov 1856 at St Annes Church of Ireland, Belfast. Thomas's father was John, and Agnes's father was Joseph.
 
OTTO
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: ScarletO on August 03, 2011, 12:27:51 PM
Hope  this helps my grandfather Richard Stevenson has connection to matilda street sandyrows. He lived Scotland not sure when he came over. We have name Annie Marshall which maybe my great grandmother or great great. My mother was born 1928. I have just started so not much info. at time of post
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 03, 2011, 01:57:28 PM
Freda, found Mary Ann birth on the mormon site, but her birth is on ancestry.com, plus a brother Alexander 1859 [Stenson]
 
Joseph 1869 [Steenson]
 
Thomas & Agnes marriage is also on ancestry.com
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 03, 2011, 02:29:32 PM
I must be stupid paid for the world membership and cant find nothing could you post me the link to the marriage thank you for all your advise what you have found for myself and the other lady is wonderful
thank you again
freda
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 03, 2011, 02:55:57 PM
Freda I think we've got are wires cross, are you talking about www.ancestry.co.uk (http://www.ancestry.co.uk), if so they are no use for Irish BMD's. The site I was talking about is www.ancestryireland.com (http://www.ancestryireland.com)
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 03, 2011, 03:25:14 PM
to Scarlet
just seen your post
My great Grandfather Richard Stevenson or Steenson had a sister Mary Ann she married Andrew Rea
they had a son called Andrew who married Annie Marshall they had a daughter Agnes married to John Grey
Agnes is near 90 but still alive John Grey is Agnes second husband her first was called Jameson dont know first name is was Agnes herself told me her mothers name was Annie Marshall in fact I remember Annie from when I was a child
if we can put all these pieces together will be great
freda
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 03, 2011, 03:38:16 PM
Scarlet,
Andrew Rea married Annabella Marshall 16th September 1918 Christchurch C.O.I. Belfast
Andrew father's Andrew
Annabella father Isiah
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 03, 2011, 03:40:16 PM
Found 3 children to Andrew & Annabella
Thomas 1919
Annabella 1920
Elizabeth Mabel 1921
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 03, 2011, 03:43:53 PM
Children of Andrew Rea & Mary Ann Steenson
James 1887
Elizabeth 1889
Agnes 1891
Thomas 1893
Margaret 1895
Andrew 1897
Elizabeth Mabel 1899
William John Greer 1901 mother name Stevenson
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 03, 2011, 04:03:49 PM
Isaiah Marshall married Annabella Rea 24th September 1880 St. Thomas C.O.I. Belfast
 
Isiah father's a Henry
Annabella father's a James
 
Children
Jemima 1881
James 1883
Isaiah 1891
Thomas 1895
Annabella 1900
Alice Bowden 1903
 
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 03, 2011, 04:32:39 PM
Just re-read Scarlet's post her grandfather was Richard Stevenson, he was probably the son of Richard & Lucinda
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: ScarletO on August 03, 2011, 04:42:50 PM
 :-\  Thanks everyone all posts really interesting a lot of the names repeated in family to-day. Have been looking up the great war volunteers ireland, family names, dates, brothers,
 sisters might be helpful time will tell.,
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 03, 2011, 04:46:02 PM
Scarlet do you konw who Richard married?
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 03, 2011, 05:39:34 PM
Maura what you have done for everyone is wonderful still trying to find Agnes Robinson marriage to Thomas
the Rea Family and the Steenson family were always connected now you have give me Mary Ann children as well I am so thrilled see you have Brennan in your family my daughter in law is a Brennan
Freda
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 03, 2011, 05:45:17 PM
Hope  this helps my grandfather Richard Stevenson has connection to matilda street sandyrows. He lived Scotland not sure when he came over. We have name Annie Marshall which maybe my great grandmother or great great. My mother was born 1928. I have just started so not much info. at time of post
have just seen this reply otto thank you so much
freda
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 03, 2011, 05:56:40 PM
Freda, these are children of Richard & Lucinda
name spelt Steenson
Thomas 1885
Thomas 1886
George 1889
Richard 1891
Agnes 1894
Elizabeth 1896
William 1899
Mary Jane 1902
Thomas 1905
 
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 03, 2011, 06:10:22 PM
this is beyond belief what you have found My own Grandfather was Thomas born 1905 maybe the other Thomas children died
I only knew Agnes Elizabeth and William should have known there would be a Richard even now my uncle Richard Steenson age 80 is alive I feel Agnes Rae Annies daughter was the same age as my mum born about 1926 I may try to see if can visit her
Freda
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 03, 2011, 06:17:31 PM
Freda, these are children of Richard & Lucinda
name spelt Steenson
Thomas 1885
Thomas 1886
George 1889
Richard 1891
Agnes 1894
Elizabeth 1896
William 1899
Mary Jane 1902
Thomas 1905
scarlet do you have a photo of your grandfather?
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 03, 2011, 06:27:34 PM
According to the 1911 census Richard & Lucinda had 9 children and only 4 where still living Agnes, Elizabeth, William & Thomas. So the  2Thomas;s George, Richard & Mary Jane must of died.
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 03, 2011, 06:42:47 PM
I am so excited about finding some more info on the steensons or it possible the richard is one who went to scotland although I think the lady who started this great thread said her Richards father was William wondering about scarlets   richard as she also had the name annie marshall can you give us more info of age scarlet would be great if we can find connection
freda
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 04, 2011, 09:13:00 AM
good morning friends was trying to get onto belfast burials site still not seem to be working
was trying to find any lyons  to match with Lucinda Lyons who married Richard Stevenson
think she was born about 1860 died 1913 Father John Hilland Street she has county down as birthplace in census but can not find one Lucinda around that time
spent all last night adding info from here thanks again
Freda
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 04, 2011, 06:31:19 PM
Sorry Freda, I can't find any trace of Lucinda's birth, she may have been born before registration began. Who where the witnesses at her marriage, I did find the deaths of her children.
 
Thomas Steenson 78 Hilland st. 2weeks old 1885
Thomas Steenson 99 Hilland st. 5 years old 1890
Richard Stevenson 64 Matilda st. 2 1/2 years old 1894
George Steenson 51 Matilda st. 7years old 1896
Mary Jane Steinson 7 Matilda ST. 2years old 1904
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 04, 2011, 09:52:58 PM
how sad all those children died I have no clues at all to Lucinda the other Lucinda I found was a 18
month Lucinda Steenson and the address was 20 combermere street this was the address of my grandfathers brother William so he must had a baby named after her
she was married at 22    ON 5TH Sept 1884 Her address was hilland street her witness was Mary Ann Steenson  and his witness was Thomas McGreer and her father was John Lyons Labourer
she died 49 1913 and Richard remarried Elizabeth McBride in April 1914 at St Aidens Church I have searched everywhere for her no luck and thanks for trying  the   other thing is I am curious about Scarlets  Richard as
why did she have the name as a possible aunt of Annie marshall which is a connection on our side perhaps she will get back with more info there was talk from a uncle of our  Richards wife coming from the county in fact (http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/file: /C:/Users/Freda/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot.png)Rostrever was mentioned but the only thing would be unsure of did they mean lucinda or Elizabeth McBride it does not give me her age on the wedding info I have is from emerald Ancestors and is brief and I cant find her death she is not buried with Richard Lucinda is and also Richards sister Elizabeth and children  I think hilland street seemed to vanish someone said it became hunter street dont know if that is correct
best wishes Freda
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: ScarletO on August 04, 2011, 10:47:53 PM
Scarlet do you konw who Richard married?
        Richard was married to Elizabeth rowan hill, from Ayrshire, sorry it took me so long to get back to you.
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: bobdenn on August 04, 2011, 11:14:21 PM


Freda,

Could this be the elusive Lucinda that you are seeking:-

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Name of deceased
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Lucinda Stevenson
Last place of residence
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7 Matilda Street
Age
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49 Years
Sex
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Date of death
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26 June 1913
Date of burial
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29 June 1913
Cemetery
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City Cemetery
Grave section and number
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O2 143
Burial type
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Earth Burial

http://cemeteries.belfastcity.gov.uk/pls/live/f?p=109:7:2252595547736389::NO::P7_RECORD_ID:6305.38356 (http://cemeteries.belfastcity.gov.uk/pls/live/f?p=109:7:2252595547736389::NO::P7_RECORD_ID:6305.38356)

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Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: m. on August 04, 2011, 11:51:42 PM
good morning friends was trying to get onto belfast burials site still not seem to be working
was trying to find any lyons  to match with Lucinda Lyons who married Richard Stevenson
think she was born about 1860 died 1913 Father John Hilland Street she has county down as birthplace in census but can not find one Lucinda around that time
spent all last night adding info from here thanks again
Freda

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Record TypeCivil MarriageDate of Marriage5 Oct 1884Groom Namerichard STEVENSONBride Namelucinda LYONSChurchSaint Annes Church of IrelandParishShankillCivil DistrictBelfastCountyAntrim
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: m. on August 05, 2011, 12:08:21 AM
There a marriage on www.ancestryireland.com (http://www.ancestryireland.com) which I think is their, but the wrong years been enter 1807
 
William father Richard
Isabella father John
 
 
According to the 1901 Richard & Isabella where born in Co ArmaghResidents of a house 13 in Hilland Street (St. George's Ward Belfast, Antrim)There's a birth for a William Andrew Stephenson 1878 Co armagh on http://ifhf.rootsireland.ie/ (http://ifhf.rootsireland.ie/)
Father Richard ,mother Agnes Davis

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Record TypeCivil MarriageDate of Marriage27 Aug 1875Groom Namerichard STEVENSONBride Nameagnes DAVISChurchShankill Church of IrelandParishShankillCivil DistrictLurganCountyArmagh
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: m. on August 05, 2011, 12:15:57 AM
Maura what you have done for everyone is wonderful still trying to find Agnes Robinson marriage to Thomas
the Rea Family and the Steenson family were always connected now you have give me Mary Ann children as well I am so thrilled see you have Brennan in your family my daughter in law is a Brennan
Freda

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Record TypeCivil MarriageDate of Marriage19 Nov 1856Groom Namethomas STEVENSONBride Nameagnes ROBINSONChurchSaint Annes Church of IrelandParishShankillCivil DistrictBelfastCountyAntrim
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 05, 2011, 01:27:48 AM
Thank you to all the people who have been helping with the stevenson or steenson family
I believe my grandfathers brother William may have married a Dinah about 1919 1920 so if anyone spots anything would be grateful
Have paid for the month as I say to wrong ancestry as the ancestry world has brought me nothing up and shall cancel it
thanks again
Freda
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 05, 2011, 03:01:43 AM
question for the experts if Lucinda Lyons on her marriage lines has wrote father John Lyons could he already be deceased or would it say that just trying to find a death for him at hilland street
Freda
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: ScarletO on August 05, 2011, 01:12:32 PM
 :)   Good afternoon everyone, Richard James Stevenson 16 or 14 Matida street  Married Annie Marshall from Ayr Scotland. Annie Marshall burnt to death in fire Wallace street Ayr. Also some news about a piggery don't know if is in. Scotland or Ireland. Richard James Stevenson and Annie Marshall were my great grandparents. Lynnara, maura, win45, Freda hope this helps.
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 05, 2011, 02:25:51 PM
Scarlet,
 
According to Richard James marriage 1923 his father's a James Stevenson, mother Annie Marshall.
Found a birth for a Richard James Stevenson father Richard James Stevenson, mother Annie Marshall 31st May 1905 can't make out the name of the street but its in Ayr. According to Richard birth his parents married 1902 Sept Ayr. The only marriage I can find for a Annie Marshall to a Stevenson plus variant spellings is to a David Stevenson 1902 Ayr. The 1911 census Annie's states she married 9 years had 4 children 1 living with her Richard Stenson aged 6, but Annies going by her maiden name.
 
 
 
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: ScarletO on August 05, 2011, 03:10:41 PM
 ::) Thanks maura, I have since found out Annie Marshall Ayr is from a family of Travellers (hawkers or gypsies ) have been searching all day, finding it difficult to trace them I am led to believe these are my great grandparents Richard James and Annie. I believe my granfather Richard was about 14 when his mother died.
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 05, 2011, 03:16:31 PM
am I reading it right Scarlet that it was a Richard James Stevenson that came from Belfast Matilda Street your great Grandfather
Freda
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: ScarletO on August 05, 2011, 03:49:33 PM
am I reading it right Scarlet that it was a Richard James Stevenson that came from Belfast Matilda Street your great Grandfather
Freda
yes almost sure it is win45 ::) still searching for more.
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 05, 2011, 03:50:38 PM
Scarlet, found Annie death
 
Annie Rodger Stevenson married to James Stevenson Seaman[merchant servce]
Died the 9th november 1939 county hospital
Cause of death Primary shock due to burns
Usual address 10 King Street Ayr
Father Alexander Marshall mason labourer [deceased]
Mother Sarah Murdoch [deceased]
 
This record tally with Richard James marriage to Elizabeth Hill his father was a James Stevenson seaman [merchant service]
 
 
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: ScarletO on August 05, 2011, 04:12:28 PM
 :-* :-*
Scarlet, found Annie death
 
Annie Rodger Stevenson married to James Stevenson Seaman[merchant servce]
Died the 9th november 1939 county hospital
Cause of death Primary shock due to burns
Usual address 10 King Street Ayr
Father Alexander Marshall mason labourer [deceased]
Mother Sarah Murdoch [deceased]
 
This record tally with Richard James marriage to Elizabeth Hill his father was a James Stevenson seaman [merchant service]
Absolutley spot on this is them thankyou so much I was just reaserching James stevenson seaman.
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 05, 2011, 04:16:30 PM
The marriage I found for Annie 1902 to a David Stevenson, has the same parents as Annie's death
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: ScarletO on August 05, 2011, 05:30:15 PM
The marriage I found for Annie 1902 to a David Stevenson, has the same parents as Annie's death
My great grandmother was Annie marshall married to richard james stevenson from matilda street,Annie came from Ayr wallacetoun or wallacetown area ( as it is known now ) king street is still there to-day. My grandfather married elizabeth rowan hill 1923 in Ayr. I am now trying to trace my great grandfathers family richard james stevenson's parents or james stevensons parents again I think from matilda street sandyrows but not entirely sure.
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 05, 2011, 06:21:06 PM
The Stevenson/Steenson in Matilda street, both had sons Richard. Freda's Richard died as a child and the other 1 Lynnara was born 1899, so to young to have fathered Richard James. Now saying that found a seaman record for a Richard Stevenson
 
Stevenson, Richard (Donkeyman) RS2 No.459176.
Born: 1883-09-07, Armagh, Co. Armagh, Ireland
Disch A No: 923829 Photo: f4 b'board
Voyages:
1919-11-19 Kenbane Head (1919) ON 142492 of Belfast (Heyn, G, ex War Whippet)
Print full record details (pdf) (http://www.irishmariners.ie/printrec.php?id=459176) Print short record (http://www.irishmariners.ie/printrec.php?id=459176&exhib=y)

 
Also found thisNew York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Richard J Stevenson
Name:Richard J StevensonArrival Date:22 Apr 1942Birth Year:abt 1883Age:59Gender:MaleEthnicity/Race­/Nationality:IrishPort of Departure:North Shields and Newcastle On Tyne, EnglandPort of Arrival:New York, New YorkShip Name:Empire NorseSearch Ship Database:Search the Empire Norse in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?f2=Empire Norse&db=passengerships)
He a Donkeyman
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 05, 2011, 06:36:56 PM
There's 2 birth on irishroots for a Richard Stevenson co Armagh
1st 1881 parents Richard Stevenson & Hannah Lyttle
2nd 1882 parents Richard Stephenson & Agnes Davison
 
It's possible that William Stevenson in Matilda street is a brother to Richard born 1882
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 05, 2011, 06:46:48 PM
There's 2 birth on irishroots for a Richard Stevenson co Armagh
1st 1881 parents Richard Stevenson & Hannah Lyttle
2nd 1882 parents Richard Stephenson & Agnes Davison
 
It's possible that William Stevenson in Matilda street is a brother to Richard born 1882
if anybody finds anything it will be you Maura just joined that roots ireland to see if can find a death or birth for our Thomas Stevenson the one you found married to agnes Robinson with a father John not to sure what I am looking for seems very hit and miss
freda
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 05, 2011, 06:56:31 PM
I wish Freda, as I wouldn't be stuck on my own lot LOL
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: ScarletO on August 05, 2011, 07:28:52 PM
Scarlet,
 
According to Richard James marriage 1923 his father's a James Stevenson, mother Annie Marshall.
Found a birth for a Richard James Stevenson father Richard James Stevenson, mother Annie Marshall 31st May 1905 can't make out the name of the street but its in Ayr. According to Richard birth his parents married 1902 Sept Ayr. The only marriage I can find for a Annie Marshall to a Stevenson plus variant spellings is to a David Stevenson 1902 Ayr. The 1911 census Annie's states she married 9 years had 4 children 1 living with her Richard Stenson aged 6, but Annies going by her maiden name.
  Have since found out Annie Marshall seperated or divorced Richard James Stevenson which would be why she was going by her maiden name. Also info about him owning sailing boats plus connection to house in Edinburgh.
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 06, 2011, 12:48:22 AM
I wish Freda, as I wouldn't be stuck on my own lot LOL
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Thanks to you have now got Great great Grandparents
freda]
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 06, 2011, 02:44:17 PM
That's great Freda.
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 06, 2011, 02:56:43 PM
That's great Freda.
think have to give up on a birth for Lucinda lyons when people like yourself cant find one
still searching for further details on Thomas Stevenson and Agnes Robinson
by the way my daughter in laws Brennans all seem to live around Lecumpher Street
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 06, 2011, 03:14:06 PM
Freda, not all church records are online, my Brennan's ancestors come from Randalstown Co Antrim
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 06, 2011, 03:43:35 PM
Freda, not all church records are online, my Brennan's ancestors come from Randalstown Co Antrim
thanks Maura may I ask you about another brick wall My own Grandfather Thomas Steenson Married Grace Hurst
her father was Alexander Hurst born 16 aug 1866 armagh married Mary Ann Green 1890 found out Alexander Father was Edward Hurst Tailor married Saran anne Hanlon 1846 in Armagh long give up on Mary anne green
but thought might with your knowledge find any other brothers or sisters to alexander anything at all the info on Edward and sarah did not give me any parents got it on emerald ancestry just give me basics
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: m. on August 06, 2011, 03:51:13 PM
Found this while researching McKernon,
don't know if its any relation, if not no harm done.

Entry Details                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
Record TypeCivil MarriageDate of Marriage29 Nov 1878Groom Namerobert james MCKERNONBride Namemary jane STEENSONChurchPomeroy Church of IrelandParishPomeroyCivil DistrictDungannonCountyTyrone
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 06, 2011, 04:20:06 PM
Found this while researching McKernon,
don't know if its any relation, if not no harm done.

Entry Details                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
Record TypeCivil MarriageDate of Marriage29 Nov 1878Groom Namerobert james MCKERNONBride Namemary jane STEENSONChurchPomeroy Church of IrelandParishPomeroyCivil DistrictDungannonCountyTyrone
keep everything you have found Maura thank you
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 06, 2011, 04:34:38 PM
Freda that wasn't me that found the marriage for Jane Steenson it a person user name m.
 
Mary Green father a James
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 06, 2011, 04:50:02 PM
Can't find any other children to Edward & Sarah.
 
Edward father's a Thomas
Sarah father's a Ardel
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 06, 2011, 05:23:28 PM
Freda, there a tree on ancestry that has Mary Anne Green born 20th November 1864 Belfast, parents James Green & Mary Irvin, the person a descendant of Alexander Hurst born 1897
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 06, 2011, 05:45:38 PM
Ignore that 1 Freda, checked that birth out her father was a John not James. There is another person that has her born  24th June 1869 parents James Green & Mary Jane Smyth, they have photo's of all the Hurst's family including Mary Ann
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 06, 2011, 06:17:58 PM
thank you M thought you and maura were same person
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 06, 2011, 09:35:19 PM
Ignore that 1 Freda, checked that birth out her father was a John not James. There is another person that has her born  24th June 1869 parents James Green & Mary Jane Smyth, they have photo's of all the Hurst's family including Mary Ann
maura thank you both sites are family one is in boston my grandmothers sister family both the mary ann details are guess work the only proof we have is her wedding lines saying she was 22 and married 1890 and her father was James a carpenter the photos are of her children including my grandmother and one that had been sent to boston of mary ann years ago the family story was she was a orphan and had two sisters which she never found again we have been trying to find births to a James Green of three girls but
have had no luck also we are not sure of her true age in 1901 census she is 33 in 1911 she is 39  she died 1940 says age 71 we know she had last child 1915 sincere thanks again
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: bobdenn on August 06, 2011, 09:57:07 PM
maura thank you both sites are family one is in boston my grandmothers sister family both the mary ann details are guess work the only proof we have is her wedding lines saying she was 22 and married 1890 and her father was James a carpenter the photos are of her children including my grandmother and one that had been sent to boston of mary ann years ago the family story was she was a orphan and had two sisters which she never found again we have been trying to find births to a James Green of three girls but
have had no luck also we are not sure of her true age in 1901 census she is 33 in 1911 she is 39  she died 1940 says age 71 we know she had last child 1915 sincere thanks again

I wonder if this is the carpenter father in the 1901 census?  He moved to the Falls Road for the 1911 census.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/St__Anne_s/Ballymurphy_Street/981819/ (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/St__Anne_s/Ballymurphy_Street/981819/)

Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 06, 2011, 11:43:02 PM

I wonder if this is the carpenter father in the 1901 census?  He moved to the Falls Road for the 1911 census.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/St__Anne_s/Ballymurphy_Street/981819/ (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/St__Anne_s/Ballymurphy_Street/981819/)
thank you shall look that up Mary Anne I think told  a few untrue stories about her age and past on the wedding info from ancestry Ireland her address was the same as Alexander hurst her husband to be 13 Antiqua Street I found a mary green in 1981 a weaver living in Antiqua street in street directory
thanks again
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: ScarletO on August 07, 2011, 09:30:31 PM
The Stevenson/Steenson in Matilda street, both had sons Richard. Freda's Richard died as a child and the other 1 Lynnara was born 1899, so to young to have fathered Richard James. Now saying that found a seaman record for a Richard Stevenson
 
Stevenson, Richard (Donkeyman) RS2 No.459176.
Born: 1883-09-07, Armagh, Co. Armagh, Ireland
Disch A No: 923829 Photo: f4 b'board
Voyages:
1919-11-19 Kenbane Head (1919) ON 142492 of Belfast (Heyn, G, ex War Whippet)
Print full record details (pdf) (http://www.irishmariners.ie/printrec.php?id=459176) Print short record (http://www.irishmariners.ie/printrec.php?id=459176&exhib=y)

 
Also found thisNew York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Richard J Stevenson
Name:Richard J StevensonArrival Date:22 Apr 1942Birth Year:abt 1883Age:59Gender:MaleEthnicity/Race­/Nationality:IrishPort of Departure:North Shields and Newcastle On Tyne, EnglandPort of Arrival:New York, New YorkShip Name:Empire NorseSearch Ship Database:Search the Empire Norse in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?f2=Empire%20Norse&db=passengerships)
He a Donkeyman
I have since found out my great grandfather had to flee Ireland for what reason I am unsure. An aunt has told me she thinks he had something to do with whale boats or maybe fishing deffo something to do with the sea. Annie Marshall and my grandfather lived by themselves in Ayr so who are his brothers and sisters? So who was my great grandfathers wife ?
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: ScarletO on August 07, 2011, 09:39:14 PM
if anybody finds anything it will be you Maura just joined that roots ireland to see if can find a death or birth for our Thomas Stevenson the one you found married to agnes Robinson with a father John not to sure what I am looking for seems very hit and miss
freda
Have found out my great grandfather had a brother Billy ( william )
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 07, 2011, 10:11:02 PM
Have found out my great grandfather had a brother Billy ( william )
are we still thinking your great grandfather was a James or was he Richard
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: ScarletO on August 07, 2011, 10:15:36 PM
are we still thinking your great grandfather was a James or was he Richard
He was Richard James have had that confirmed. :)
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 08, 2011, 02:28:46 PM
Scarlet you'll have to search Scotlandpeople for the 3 siblings of Richard. There no marriage for a Richard/James to a Annie Marshall, according to Richards birth 1905, his parents married Sept 1902 Ayr, the only marriage coming up for that year for Stevenson & Marshall, is for a David Stevenson to a Annie Marshall 17th Septmeber 1902 Holy Trinity church Ayr. Annie parents are the same on the marriage cert as on  her death cert. David father's an Archibald and his mother Agnes Davidson. Maybe if the story true about him fleeing Ireland, maybe he told a few porkies when he got married.
 
The birth I found for 1883 in Co Armagh for a Richard, his parents where Richard Stevenson an Agnes Davison. The William Stevenson in Matilda street was born in Co. Armagh, his parents where Richard Stevenson & Agnes Davis.
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: ScarletO on August 09, 2011, 01:01:40 AM
Scarlet you'll have to search Scotlandpeople for the 3 siblings of Richard. There no marriage for a Richard/James to a Annie Marshall, according to Richards birth 1905, his parents married Sept 1902 Ayr, the only marriage coming up for that year for Stevenson & Marshall, is for a David Stevenson to a Annie Marshall 17th Septmeber 1902 Holy Trinity church Ayr. Annie parents are the same on the marriage cert as on  her death cert. David father's an Archibald and his mother Agnes Davidson. Maybe if the story true about him fleeing Ireland, maybe he told a few porkies when he got married.
 
The birth I found for 1883 in Co Armagh for a Richard, his parents where Richard Stevenson an Agnes Davison. The William Stevenson in Matilda street was born in Co. Armagh, his parents where Richard Stevenson & Agnes Davis.
   Thankyou Maura I have been on Scotland sites and still searching.
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: lynnara on August 09, 2011, 04:30:42 PM
hi everybody , sorry i havent been on for a while  but i have been trying to get more info , well scarlett i am sure we are looking for the same person i have since found out  that william stevenson was the brother of richard   :)   and i have heard the the marshall name  mentioned  and the gypsy connection  im still trying to  find out more  and maura the information you have found is wonderfull thank you  and freda i think there is a connection there  :) thank you everybody   keep you all updated xx
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 11, 2011, 04:20:56 AM
Can't find any other children to Edward & Sarah.
 
Edward father's a Thomas
Sarah father's a Ardel
maura did you find a chart on ancestry ireland on the marriage did it give any address I did not know the father names so thank you
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 11, 2011, 10:16:06 AM
No Freda, I found the marriage on http://www.rootsireland.ie/ (http://www.rootsireland.ie/) 
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 11, 2011, 02:54:11 PM
No Freda, I found the marriage on http://www.rootsireland.ie/ (http://www.rootsireland.ie/)
thanks maura if I go and pay for it will it give me any more info than you have done know Edward was a tailor found a Thomas Hurst Tailor in a lurgan Trade directory 1819 might be a possible
thanks for advise
Freda
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: maura on August 11, 2011, 03:14:15 PM
Truthfully Freda, its pot luck what you get on a marriage cert in 1846, but you hopefully get addresses ,occupations and the witnesses names
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 11, 2011, 07:52:34 PM
Truthfully Freda, its pot luck what you get on a marriage cert in 1846, but you hopefully get addresses ,occupations and the witnesses names
thanks Maura it gave me no address just that Edward and his Father Thomas were both Tailors
Ardell Hanlon was a carpenter did not give any age for edward and Sarah
witness
Joseph Hanlon
James Albin
still Thomas would have been my grandmother grace steensons great grandfather so slowly finding little bits thank you for this lead
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: lynnara on August 27, 2011, 01:17:04 PM
hi everyone ,sorry i have took so long to get  back , ok i know know that it was james stevenson who came over from ireland  william was his brother    , he married annie marshall  i think scarlett and i are looking for the same person  i have heard  the term black jacket  as in james was a black jacket i havent a clue what this could mean  i know he did have to flee ireland   i would love to know why but it seems that nobody in the family knows  there are a few rumours but i dont know  i just want to thank maura again as she has gave me alot of information i have sent scarlett a message to compare notes  thanks everyone  :) xx
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on August 27, 2011, 03:29:42 PM
thats great if you coma across any of mine glad to have info on any stevensons or steensons
we now know our Richard had a Father called Thomas and his father was John so if you come across those names
Freda
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: stephen dawson on May 11, 2014, 05:16:10 PM
hi lynnara my name is stephen dawson my great grandfather was richards brother his name was william . he died in 1972 . his daughter josephine was my grandmother  . josephine died late 90s    josephine had 3 daughters elizabeth (betty) isobel and josephine .  Betty is my mother she is alive and well aged 84 . I was 18when william died he was a great old man  aged in his 90s and i really missed him . I also remember his wife bella who died when i was quite young. william worked on a whaling ship for many years and gave me 5 whales teeth that i still have. Matilda st has changed now to matilda court and they are fancy semis. i was born in matilda street in 1954. I look forward to hearing from you and might be able to get some old photos from my mother if she has them.
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: lynnara on November 15, 2015, 10:32:49 PM
hi Stephen ive sent you a private message
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: rittrock on November 14, 2018, 02:39:36 PM
Good day[/size]
[/size]Apologies if this has already been answered - it is a long thread.[/size]
[/size]Andrew Rea, a labourer age 63 from 9 Matilda St, dies in Belfast workhouse on the last day of 1899 - What is his relation to the Andrew Rea (son of James Rea) who marries Mary Ann Stevenson / Steenson in 1886?[/size]
[/size]What became of Agnes Rea born on 23 September 1891? Did she stay on at number 9?[/size]
[/size]best wishes
[/size]
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on November 24, 2018, 04:55:05 PM
Agnes Rea or Nurse Kirk to married name  lived Lisburn Road  died 1974    Mary Anne Rea married Andrew Rea she was Mary Anne Steenson my great grandfathers sister number 9 at first was Steenson Family home Mary Anne seems to have took over when she got married and was always Rea home her grandaughter Agnes died this year 90 she was a good friend to family and is who remember living at number 9 have a headstone photo not sure how to post best wishes Freda
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: rittrock on May 30, 2019, 06:14:24 PM
Also there is a William Briggs age 40 a labourer who dies in 1890 - in hospital, but previously living in Matilda St at a number that MIGHT be 9 or 19 (not very clear on the register). His brother Andrew is a fruiterer of Shankhill Road (as confirmed by the Belfast street directory). Any sign that a Briggs was lodging with, or a near neighbour of, these Reas and Steensons? Joseph & Harriet Briggs are in Matilda St at census time - possibly the same Joseph is there in 1880 - could William be a brother?
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on May 30, 2019, 11:15:42 PM
Hi I have death notice of great grandmother Agnes Robinson died 13 12 1891 at 9 Matilda street she was 50 married to Richard Stevenson or Steenson never could find any info of her side so they were living there 1891 nice to hear from you   Freda
Title: Re: richard stevenson
Post by: win45 on May 30, 2019, 11:25:09 PM
Sorry Agnes Robinson was married to Thomas Steenson Richard was her son