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Title: "The Shankill Gold Rush"
Post by: Moochin Photoman on February 06, 2008, 02:22:59 PM
Hello everyone

I'm doing some research on the Shankill Road in Belfast and have been told of an interesting little story.
Sometime around the late 60's early 70's a stash of gold sovereign coins were found in a house that was being demolished in Brown Square. Apparently the house in the past was a money lenders and the coins were his.
Has anyone heard of this and more importantly does anyone have a date as to when this did happen?
The phrase "Brown Square Millionaire" has been mentioned along with "The Shankill Gold Rush."
Kid were selling the coins for pennies and people flocked to the area looking to find some.

If anyone has an idea as to when this was and any anecdotes of your won I'd love to hear them.

Thanking you in advance

John
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Post by: RabRow on February 06, 2008, 02:40:57 PM
I can remember this happening. It definitely did. Although thought it was on the other side of the Shankill Rd. I'm probably wrong. But the times you mention ...late sixties,early seventies are right enough I would say.

A fella I worked with lived in that direction. He got a wee bit of banter about it. :)

Think you would find something in the newpapers of the time about it.
Title: Re: "The Shankill Gold Rush"
Post by: Moochin Photoman on February 06, 2008, 02:59:00 PM
Thanks Rab

If i can get a date  i can then go through the papers. ;)
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Post by: rattler101 on February 06, 2008, 04:31:25 PM
 ??? I think the money was coppers dipped in PetersHill baths hence the gold sheen :-\
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Post by: Moochin Photoman on February 06, 2008, 05:19:25 PM
Thanks Rattler

All the people i have spoken to have mentioned sovereigns as in sovereign coins and this is the first i have heard your theory.
So not wanting to be rude I'm not sure if that is the case. I might be wrong. I am here after all to learn :)
Have you any direct knowledge of this incident?
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Post by: Mrs Timberlake on February 06, 2008, 06:10:19 PM
I think Rattler is trying to be a comedian Photoman.  He doesn't get out much God love him  8)
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Post by: stewie on February 06, 2008, 07:51:56 PM
moochin thats true O0 my old man told me about it years ago :)apparently they were supposed to belong to an old Jewish money lender who lived around peters hill before he died ???so the story goes O0
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Post by: zeebeedee on February 06, 2008, 08:26:18 PM
I remember the story, it supposedly happened when the old houses were being cleared to make way for Unity Flats.
I think it was in the local papers
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Post by: zeebeedee on February 06, 2008, 08:32:51 PM
I think it must have been the late 50's or early 60's shortly before the flats were built, I remember the houses being pointed out to me by my dad from the top of the bus going into town from the shankill
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Post by: Moochin Photoman on February 06, 2008, 09:01:52 PM
Thanks Stewie, zeebeedee

I am 99.9% certain it happened I just need to narrow down the date before i begin trawling the paper archives!!!
Interestingly the "Jewish money lender" has been mentioned to me aswell.
I have some connections within the Jewish community so i'll ask around there too.
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Post by: zeebeedee on February 06, 2008, 09:05:46 PM
Moochin,

Find out when the flats were started and you have it more or less pinned down

Google says early 60,s
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Post by: jemmy hope on February 06, 2008, 09:09:08 PM
I remember this happening. I had finished  school but had not yet left for Canada, so that puts it between sixty and early sixtysix. It was in the region of Browns Sq.
Title: Re: "The Shankill Gold Rush"
Post by: Moochin Photoman on February 06, 2008, 09:33:22 PM
So a quick phone call has revealed that indeed it happened and that there is a living relative of the money lender. Unfortunately he is not in the best of health at the moment and might not be able to tell me anymore.
I have been given a couple of names so i'll follow that up tomorrow.
In the meantime all info gratefully received  O0
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Post by: glenb on February 07, 2008, 12:04:50 AM
I remember this also, almost positive mid 60's, also the story was that it was money that was stored in the attic for many many years (brothers of the religious kink or something like that, yes in the Shankill), kids found them and were playing with them in the streets, oul ladies were giving them sixpences and thrupennces for the sovereigns

obviously stories get blurred or exaggerated but I remember this well
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Post by: jonnty on February 07, 2008, 07:34:14 PM
I was walking home from work when I heard that a discovery of gold sovereigns had been found in a wall cavity in a house that was being demolished for redevelopment.
As far as my memory serves me right it may have been 1968 and I think the house was in Christopher Street.
It apparently had belonged to two brothers who may have been moneylenders.

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Post by: harrydunn on February 08, 2008, 05:49:31 PM
just home from hol's found this thread it was indeed Christopher st they were found hidden in a brick wall if i remember right there was a big write up about them in the tele at the time i think the early sixties.
just thinking back it must have late sixties
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Post by: Hendy on February 10, 2008, 05:41:40 PM
It was the early 60s, I have a photo of people scrambling over the rubble, I will have to go on a search for it.
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Post by: RabRow on February 12, 2008, 08:28:25 PM
just home from hol's found this thread it was indeed Christopher st they were found hidden in a brick wall if i remember right there was a big write up about them in the tele at the time i think the early sixties.
just thinking back it must have late sixties

Yeah would say thats the right time 'zone' harrydunn. I mentioned earlier, I worked with a fella who lived around there. I didn't start in that place to 1965. So it was a few years after that when this happened.
Title: Re: "The Shankill Gold Rush"
Post by: glenb on February 12, 2008, 09:59:58 PM
Confirmed that it was the early 60's. There's a book with an actual photograph of the scene. A digger driver knocked down a wall and a box and a half of sovereigns fell out. Stories lean towards a "Jewish Money Lender" to people that didn't trust the bank. There's an old book with a photo of the scene somewhere
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Post by: GaryO on February 15, 2008, 04:42:33 PM
Can I throw in some wild unsubstantiated possibilities on this story.

My ancestor was Israel Milliken (is this where the Jewish bit comes in) he was a Presbyterian who was involved in the run up to the 1798 rebellion but was safely tucked up in Kilmainham Jail when it actually took place.

In 1805 he founded the Peters Hill Private Baths which was his main business (it is ironic that Rattler joked about that institution).  He was a popular local figure until his death in 1857 aged 86.  He lived in the Browns Square area.

During his life he was renowned as a benefactor and friend to former revolutionaries and supported them with his money.  He also helped organise various monuments to the fallen heroes.  Orr's memorial at Ballycarry for example.

I have also found a story where he purchased a house in 1833 (Cloney at Knocknacarry) for £1,020 in trust for a guy called Michael McCormick who was coachman to Dr James McDonnell.  McDonnell was the founder of the Belfast Medical School and was renowned as an expert in resuscitation.  He (McDonnell) was a supporter of the rebellion and was “on stand-by” to try and revive Henry Joy McCracken after his hanging but refused to attend.  Did Israel perform other money lending activiites in his time?

My Aunt informed me that her Mother inherited a box of gold coins from Israel which she dipped into from time to time.  Thus heresay evidence of a stash of gold.

After Isreal died his property was inherited by John Milliken who was shot dead in the 1864 Orange riots near his home in Browns Square.  Could this sudden death explain the forgotten hoard of gold coins?

So there you go, lots of conjecture but they are told in good faith, if this ties in with anything that Moochin finds out I would be delighted to hear about it.

Gary

PS Now did I ever tell you about those fairies at the bottom of my garden.... ;)
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Post by: glenb on February 15, 2008, 05:14:37 PM
Well if they moved those coins into Christopher st where they where found maybe not so far fetched

As for Peter's Hill Baths, I had a swim there quite a few times, that was actually the closest baths to Ardoyne at the time. Diving board was a plank if I remember right...
Title: Re: "The Shankill Gold Rush"
Post by: harrydunn on February 15, 2008, 05:34:32 PM
Peters hill baths our school Glenwood inter went there once a week for swimming lessons as a teenager i went once a week to the baths for a bath you got a bar of soap and a towel, i think for 0ne shilling (five new pence)
Title: Re: "The Shankill Gold Rush"
Post by: GaryO on February 15, 2008, 09:35:30 PM
I believe that Peter's Hill Baths were converted from private to public ownership in 1879 and the conversion cost was £28,507 of which £7,160 was to purchase the site.

Gary
Title: Re: "The Shankill Gold Rush"
Post by: GaryO on February 20, 2008, 09:43:55 AM
I checked with a local historian friend who is almost sure that it was indeed Christopher Street that was the location of the gold find.  Unfortunately, that doesn't disprove my wild theory because Christopher Street was nearby to Israel Street which was named after Israel Milliken (you guessed it).  As it happens there was also a Milliken Street on the Falls Road as well which is a measure of his cross town respect.
As it happens Israel's mother was called Jane Sayers and her family leased out extensive properties throughout the Peters Hill area thus it would not be a surprise to believe that Israel had properties in that area.
It has been discussed elsewhere that much of the building development was instigated by spectulators who would build a row of houses then name them themselves.  Was this group of houses developed by Israel and his associates?

GaryO

PS There is absolutely no connection between Israel Milliken and "the Brown Square Millionaire" that is another story altogether.  Apart from the coincidence that the "BS MIllionaires" son was killed at the Peter Hill Baths which had been owned by Israel in his time.
Title: Re: "The Shankill Gold Rush"
Post by: glenb on February 20, 2008, 04:51:51 PM
No need to check about Christopher street, it was Christopher st, there's a book with a photograph of the digger that knocked the wall down amid the demolition.
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Post by: jemmy hope on February 20, 2008, 06:41:06 PM
GaryO, it sounds like your relative would make the subject of a good book.
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Post by: GaryO on February 20, 2008, 11:05:17 PM
Hi Jemmy and what inspired you to choose that name?

The more I dig the more interesting that Israel becomes, every now and then I find something new but I am always looking for new sources of information so I am always happy to compare notes on those interested in those times.

Interesting name you have because Israel Milliken, Mary Ann McCracken and Jemmy Hope were close friends from the days of the 1798 rebellion right through to their death.  When Jemmy died in 1853 it was Israel and Mary Ann who arranged for the monument to Jemmy at the Mallusk graveyard and for Dr Madden to write the inscription.

When Dr Maddens definitive book about the rebellion was written, the interviews were held in Millikens house in Brown Square.

If you are interested I have a great book called "The Pikemen of '98" written by Con O'Leary in 1869.  It tells the story of some of the events leading up to the rebellion and describes young Israels exploits as a sort of Green Pimpernell character.  It is based on historic fact but written like fiction which was the style in those days.  It runs to 7.5kb as a pdf.

I also have a copy of a  lovely handwritten letter from Israel's father pleading for his son to be released from Kilmainham in 1799.  Isreal was arrested in the run up to the rebellion and was thus safely tucked up in jail when the big event kicked off.

I am also keen to lern more about Thomas Milliken who was Israel's Uncle he was Chairman of the Belfast Committee of United Irishmen when they put together their proclamation in 1792.  He died about 1800.

GaryO
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Post by: jemmy hope on February 21, 2008, 12:17:31 AM
GaryO, my father's family hailed from the Templepatrick area, and in my youth he said we were distantly related to Jemee. I wish I had of paid more attention to what he told us. They were fascinating times. I plan to return to Ireland in September, and I'm going to visit the gravesites and monument of the men of "98".
Title: Re: "The Shankill Gold Rush"
Post by: GaryO on March 18, 2008, 12:59:28 PM
Hello Glenb

Thanks for the confirmation that the coins were actually found at Christopher Street but I did suggest that Isreal probably had many properties in the general area thus could have had a property there (as it is very close to Israel Street).  I have since found a story in the Belfast Newsletter dated 18th August 1864 when researching the death of John Milliken (his father inherited Israel's properties) who was killed in the 1864 Orange Riots.

"At a quarter to three o'clock this morning William Phenix, Christopher Street, William Milliken, Christopher Street, William Campbell, Birch Street, and Archibald Mulholland, Peters Hill, were arrested for wrecking the house of a man called Gordon O'Neill in Boyd Street."

So we have a Milliken living at Christopher Street after all so the possibility of Israel being the source of the Shankill Gold Rush is still there.  O0

Gary

PS What has happened to Moochin who started this thread off?

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Post by: vinnym on July 06, 2008, 04:22:14 PM
I remember it well, it was sometime around the mid 60s and am certain  it was during the school summer holidays, it made the front page of the Belfast Telegraph.
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Post by: desi on July 06, 2008, 04:47:59 PM
why not go on rushlight and ask joe graham,i bet he could tell the whole story
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Post by: Rosser on July 06, 2008, 05:48:45 PM
The kids who found the sovereigns in Christopher st were from the Drumgoole family who lived on the Old Lodge Rd, I remember it well
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Post by: christian on July 06, 2008, 09:22:21 PM
I think it was christopher st or a street near there, it deffinitely wasnt brown square, the nearest gold to there was the three balls at adgeys pawn.
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Post by: seafax on July 07, 2008, 03:56:41 PM
the 'Shankill Goldrush' did take place in christopher street, in buildings known as the scotch halls. they were a set of old victorian tenaments inhabited mostly by old spinsters/widows.
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Post by: glenb on July 07, 2008, 06:16:30 PM
Why is anyone questioning Christopher St. It was confirmed by many already, the Shankill Mirror has a photo of it in a book, they offered to copy it for me.
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Post by: Rosser on July 07, 2008, 08:23:07 PM
I was there , not at the moment the coins were found but within hours, I remember it well because my sister had just been married in Shankill Rd Mission some weeks previous, I searched along with hundreds of other kids for hours without any luck, and the date would be May/June 1969.
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Post by: moonbeam on August 04, 2008, 05:42:20 PM
 ;D hi
i remember that i had run away from home and was living on the shankill streets that was 67 or 68
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Post by: blue eyes on August 04, 2008, 07:19:16 PM
Yes It did happen around 1967/68 and it was in Christopher St. It was found in the Scotch Halls which if I remember right were very dark and I think it was a couple of Flats I lived around the next street but was only ever at the front door of them, they were so dark i think us kids were afraid to go into them. They were found by some kids unfortunately not by me lol .My father got a half sovereign from one of the kids.They were starting to redevelop the area. Christopher St was the second street down at Peters Hill One half of our street started Peters Hill
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Post by: honestmay on October 30, 2008, 11:43:28 PM
 ::)ROSSER HOW DO U REMEMBER IT SO WELL I WE BIT YOUNGER THAN U AND I DONT  ;   REALLY I DO RECALL FATHER TELLING US ABOUT IT BUT I  BELIEVED LIKE EVERY THING HE TOLD US IT WAS A WE FAIRY STORY  :-[
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Post by: Marye on October 31, 2008, 12:49:51 AM
Interesting name you have because Israel Milliken, Mary Ann McCracken and Jemmy Hope were close friends from the days of the 1798 rebellion right through to their death.  When Jemmy died in 1853 it was Israel and Mary Ann who arranged for the monument to Jemmy at the Mallusk graveyard and for Dr Madden to write the inscription

As a point of information, Unity Flats was mentioned on this thread earlier and in that area their was a branch of the Irish Republican Socialist Party and it was named the Jemmy Hope Cumann.
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Post by: Rosser on October 31, 2008, 12:59:35 AM
::)ROSSER HOW DO U REMEMBER IT SO WELL I WE BIT YOUNGER THAN U AND I DONT  ;   REALLY I DO RECALL FATHER TELLING US ABOUT IT BUT I  BELIEVED LIKE EVERY THING HE TOLD US IT WAS A WE FAIRY STORY  :-[

Joan, sure there was nothing else happening on the Road at that time, it was a big thing, and here I answered you on the Crumlin Rd thread have you not looked at it again? and how`s Norman?
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Post by: Headline boat man on November 01, 2008, 05:06:13 AM
I think it all happened in Klondyke Street,hence the Shankill Gold Rush and it was in the Hammer.
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Post by: harry on July 21, 2009, 10:35:26 PM
hi, i know you posted this on 6/2/08, i have just came across this, i would just like to say that i was there that day and i have a couple for old newpaper photos of myself and other poeple that where there, as i said before i have just came across this forum,if you are still interested please let me know,
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Post by: jim bo on July 24, 2009, 02:42:43 PM
I remember it well,I was living in Bristol St at that time,And they where knocking the houses down,it was on the right hand side of the Old Lodge Rd I was down my self doing a bit of hunting did not fine nothing,but told of by the cops. And told to move on
                                         Jimbo
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Post by: harry on July 27, 2009, 10:44:25 PM
here are some old pics off myself and some of the people who where there(http://)
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Post by: Hendy on July 28, 2009, 12:14:45 PM
here are some old pics off myself and some of the people who where there(http://)
Harry what happened to the Pics? when you do get them posted can you get a date for the event as I think it was pre 66.
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Post by: bricat on July 28, 2009, 06:26:37 PM
it was july 1969, have a look  HERE (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/gallery/2009/jun/22/1?picture=349184146)
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Post by: harry on July 28, 2009, 07:57:25 PM
hendy,i couldn,t work out how to upload the pics, but i think it was round about july/ aug 1969
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Post by: Hendy on July 29, 2009, 10:22:20 AM
it was july 1969, have a look  HERE (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/gallery/2009/jun/22/1?picture=349184146)
Don't know where they got their dates from Bri, if you remember the flats on the lower shankill were already built by then.
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Post by: bricat on July 29, 2009, 01:51:10 PM
personally, i though it was about 1966, but my memory is terrible :)
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Post by: glenb on July 29, 2009, 05:15:16 PM
Early 60s in Christopher ST

The editor of the Shankill Mirror has a book with a photo of the digger knocking the house down with exact date, he offered to copy it for me. If you want just send a note to Editor for info
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Post by: Hendy on July 29, 2009, 07:12:29 PM
Early 60s in Christopher ST

The editor of the Shankill Mirror has a book with a photo of the digger knocking the house down with exact date, he offered to copy it for me. If you want just send a note to Editor for info
I have the same book somewhere in the house but can't find it, it shows kids climbing over rubble.
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Post by: Hendy on August 18, 2009, 07:21:40 PM
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj9/hendy1016/BelfastAug2009.jpg)

EARLY 60s
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Post by: harry on August 18, 2009, 10:22:27 PM
hi Hendy, that pics is the same as the one i have, the wee boy in the centre of the pic with the shorts on is me, i remember finding a couple and giving them to my mum
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Post by: Ulster Canadian on August 28, 2009, 01:07:28 AM
heres a pic from the belfast telegraph newspaper, and it was the end of July 1969 when they struck gold  :D

(http://thumbnails7.imagebam.com/4694/2715bd46938601.gif) (http://)
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Post by: robert quee on February 10, 2011, 06:37:41 PM
hello
are you still interested in the full story from a person who was present at the gold find
robert
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Post by: Rosser on February 10, 2011, 07:30:05 PM
Haven`t looked at this in a long time, nice to see I was correct with the year they were found ;) , Robert I mentioned the Drumgooles was that right or was it just nonsense, Buttons Drumgoole was buried last week :(
although it would not have been him as he was older, finding the coins that is.
 
can`t wait to hear it from an actual witness
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Post by: LCS on February 12, 2011, 11:11:33 AM
Robert,
 
I’m looking forward to hearing the story.  My grandmother Sarah Smyth used to live in Christopher Street and had her picture in the paper that day.
 
As a side note – There’s a Robert Quee on my family tree.  Do you happen to be related to Rab and Violet Quee?  If so I suspect we are second cousins.
 
Cheers,
Lesley
 
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Post by: yd on February 13, 2011, 10:59:29 AM
 hi i was told that my 2 uncles they were some  of the ones who found the gold. pat and tommy my uncle told me he sold them and give out some of the money to family members who were grateful at the time
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Post by: bricat on February 13, 2011, 07:13:28 PM
i was right with 1969, for once :)

i was working in dawson wrights at the time, i started working there about 1966, so wasn't 100% sure of the date.
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Post by: yd on February 13, 2011, 08:19:50 PM
i found out from my uncle pat that is was him who found them with his mate bill devlin they found them when they where  looking for lead in the wall near the fireplace he said it was the old scotch hall  in christopher street that was owned by a jewish family in 1969 he was 11 at the time
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Post by: doare. on February 13, 2011, 08:31:17 PM
hi i remember that in christopher st on the shankill, at that time a sovereign was worth 10 quid, they said there aws "buckets" of them, ilived in townsend st just below that st, i used to bring "wastepaper "  to that st in the early fifties there was a collecting store.
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Post by: jimbov on March 23, 2011, 11:44:06 PM
I remember the gold rush at Christopher Street they even made a song about it  to the tune of Where The Mountains of Mourne sweep down to the sea. It started Oh Mary Oh Mary what a wonderfull site thier digging for gold by day and by night. I can't remember all the words but it ended with for thier digging for gold in Christopher street.   :smile:
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Post by: Cathy Mohan on February 28, 2012, 05:06:07 PM
I can remember this happening. It definitely did. Although thought it was on the other side of the Shankill Rd. I'm probably wrong. But the times you mention ...late sixties,early seventies are right enough I would say.

A fella I worked with lived in that direction. He got a wee bit of banter about it. :)

Think you would find something in the newpapers of the time about it.
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Post by: big bill on February 28, 2012, 05:54:53 PM
hi cathy, picture on shankill reunited about it
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Post by: bricat on February 28, 2012, 06:16:32 PM
Quote
late sixties,early seventies are right enough I would say

It was 1963
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Post by: Ulster Canadian on February 28, 2012, 07:06:28 PM

It was 1963

the shankill gold rush was july 1969

(http://thumbnails7.imagebam.com/4694/2715bd46938601.gif) (http://)
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Post by: bricat on February 28, 2012, 10:16:36 PM
I could have swore it was earlier than that, but you're right it was 1969. i think my heads going  ;)
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Post by: thompy on February 29, 2012, 11:44:42 AM
Hi bricat, I had a cousin also worked for Dawson Wrights ,Paul McIntosh,just wondering if you knew him?
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Post by: bricat on February 29, 2012, 02:44:02 PM
the name isn't familiar, when did he work there ?
i was there from about 1966 (after school and weekends) until 1970, then 1971 to about 1973 (nights and weekends, fixing kero heaters and lawnmowers)
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Post by: emmylou on March 16, 2012, 01:30:45 PM
does Paul have 2 daughters if so he is a good friend of mine
 
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Post by: thompy on March 16, 2012, 03:50:55 PM
Hello emmylou,yes he has two lovely girls.How do you know him?
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Post by: emmylou on March 17, 2012, 08:55:20 PM
Have been friends with Paul 30 years lived beside each other and girls went to school together take to Susan now and again and yes they are 2 beautiful girls
 
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Post by: bricat on March 18, 2012, 10:56:55 AM
did paul live up about manor street ?

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Post by: thompy on March 20, 2012, 08:24:44 PM
Hi bricat,I dont think so.
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Post by: doare. on March 26, 2012, 03:49:10 AM
no one seems to remember the "waste paper" collection yard in christopher street.
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Post by: bricat on March 26, 2012, 08:22:28 AM
no one seems to remember the "waste paper" collection yard in christopher street.

was that Letsons yard ? he had a gateway in carlow st, and lived next door to it, but he had a yard over that direction.
Title: Re: "The Shankill Gold Rush"
Post by: doare. on March 26, 2012, 09:46:01 AM

was that Letsons yard ? he had a gateway in carlow st, and lived next door to it, but he had a yard over that direction.
as far as i can recall it was near the top on the right hand side.
Title: Re: "The Shankill Gold Rush"
Post by: Boy from the Hammer on January 13, 2018, 04:58:31 PM
I see this topic seems to have died off but a post may help revive it.
I remember the 'gold rush' and it was in Christopher Street in around 1969.
Title: Re: "The Shankill Gold Rush"
Post by: Boy from the Hammer on January 13, 2018, 05:02:03 PM
The story was, some old Jews lived in the Scotch Tenements up Christopher Street and it was one of these gentlemen who left the coins hidden but probably died, leaving the coins (Sovereigns) hidden.
Title: Re: "The Shankill Gold Rush"
Post by: jjmack on January 14, 2018, 09:46:58 AM
Yes, I can recall the incident. Apparently he was a 'money lender' and had hid the coins and then died. It was discovered during the slum clearance programme for the lower Shankill.
When word got out hundreds of people turned up looking for coins.  :)
Title: Re: "The Shankill Gold Rush"
Post by: saran on March 04, 2019, 12:20:42 PM
Hi Harry
I work for BBC and am trying to piece together a story about the Shankill gold rush.  I'd be keen to have a chat with you - can you send me an email or a private message please?
Thanks
sara(dot)neill02(at)bbc(dot)co(dot)uk

Title: Re: "The Shankill Gold Rush"
Post by: Amandaa on July 17, 2019, 03:20:18 PM
The sovereign coins were found after the demolition of “Scotch Halls”, Christopher Street, Shankill Road.
My father lived in “Scotch Halls” (the building was something like a tenement building in Glasgow with individual flats inside) when he was a boy, and I remember visiting my grandmother in Scotch Halls when I was a child.
When the building was demolished the coins were found, this was around 1967.  I can remember it as a child as I lived only a few streets away.  Unfortunately, by the time I got there, the coins had all been found, so I didn’t get one hahaha. ???
It was said locally at the time, that the coins had belonged to a money lender who had hid the coins up the chimney.  The money lender must have died, and their family knew nothing about the coins.
-          Scotch Halls would have been home to people living in poverty, so the money lender must have been a right old scrooge to be living in that building.
Title: Re: "The Shankill Gold Rush"
Post by: pflanagan132 on July 18, 2019, 08:44:20 PM
The gold coins were found in a tin box in a house which was being demolished at Christopher St. on 29 July 1969. When the workmen  had finished for the day Isobel Stevenson aged 5 and her 7 year old brother, Billy, from Highburn Crescent entered the building and came upon the hoard. Two German brothers called Berg owned 3 tenement buildings which were being knocked down to make way for a new development