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Title: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 10, 2008, 04:29:25 PM
 Oul, d,Da Da Dempsey spits and stutters
 His mangey dog lies in the gutters
 White washed yards and outside lavies
 Bookies crammed with greasy navvies
 Shuffing home with batin dockets
 Tappin mates with empty pockets
 Ha,penny chews and pokes and sliders
 Rusty prams make hand-made gliders
 Cabbage bacon smelly nappies
 The homely stench of Jean Mchaffies
 Scores a, childer gettin, fed
 Sardine packed to five a bed
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 10, 2008, 05:16:02 PM
 Mangle grinders washboard scrubbers
 Spinners, doffers clad in rubbers
 Body washers tick collectors
 Mitchers duke the school inspectors
 Scrubbed half-moons and shiny knockers
 The heavy trudge of weary dockers
 Poucey shawlies laughin singin
 Chapel bells and washin wringin
 Money lenders faces trippin
 Countin,cursin tempers rippin
 Josie,s man who likes to punch her
 Staggers home in oily duncher
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Post by: moorsy on March 10, 2008, 05:28:00 PM
 Willie Wino hugs the lamp-post
 Bares his soul and sings his utmost
 Damns the pubs for closin Sundays
 Yellowed blinds shut out the daylight
 Pawns are bunged til friday pay-night
 Drunken men are given batins
 Annie Sweeny,s had her sixth son
 Wee Ma Black has breathed her last one
 Cobbled streets and Rag o, bone men
 Gurnin weeins runnin pantin
 Snattery noses piggin faces
 Holey jumpers untied laces            Belfast, my childhood :-\ :-\

 
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Kathleen2 on March 10, 2008, 05:33:58 PM
Brilliant poems moosry.  That last one was sad but for some of us it all we knew. The poverty in some families was just terrible :(
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 10, 2008, 05:36:40 PM
 Kathleen, aye it was just as well we did,nt realise how bad of we were.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Kathleen2 on March 10, 2008, 05:49:08 PM
I can remember when I first became aware of the differences. I and my friend had joined the choir and had been invited with the others for a tea at another members house. When I walked in my jaw hit the floor :o I had never seen anything like it before. Big spacious rooms ( in comparison to my parents little kitchen house that is ) and beautiful furniture. We had tea out of delicate little cups with matching saucers and the conversation was about the hostess last trip abroad. Now I had never been any further than Donaghadee so I was amazed. That's when I began asking questions such as how can they live like that and we can't. My mother told me to stay in school and get an education as this was something she was denied. She left school when she was 14 to go and work in the mill :(
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 10, 2008, 06:00:32 PM
 My gran worked as a doffer in the Linfield Mill, died way too young of pouce(lung disease) caused by dampness in the mills. She grew up in the Gorbels in Glasgow,tough life. Your mum was typical of the girls then,going to work in the Mills.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: stig5882 on March 13, 2008, 03:32:29 PM
Oul, d,Da Da Dempsey spits and stutters
 His mangey dog lies in the gutters
 White washed yards and outside lavies
 Bookies crammed with greasy navvies
 Shuffing home with batin dockets
 Tappin mates with empty pockets
 Ha,penny chews and pokes and sliders
 Rusty prams make hand-made gliders
 Cabbage bacon smelly nappies
 The homely stench of Jean Mchaffies
 Scores a, childer gettin, fed
 Sardine packed to five a bed
  WELL DONE MOORSY  O0  so many memories in my head right now  ;)
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 13, 2008, 03:47:14 PM
     

                    THE     WAY     WE     WERE.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 14, 2008, 02:14:24 PM

 off ta school at the crack of dawn
 stop at the bakery fer a wee cream horn
 bertie,the watch-man has limped home
 his wee coke fire sits all alone
 cobblestones are be,in lifted
 new street lamps are be,in fitted
 the air raid shelters are all gone
 nay much left from my ould home

 a new day on Carmel st.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Kathleen2 on March 14, 2008, 03:06:01 PM
Moorsy I'm really enjoying reading your poems. They bring back so many memories of the old days and your descriptions are very vivid.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 14, 2008, 03:40:32 PM
Kathleen, remember the watch-men in there wee sentry boxs when the corporation were fixing the streets. they sat there all night with the coke fires going. Mostly old soldiers.us kids loved to hang around before bedtime and listen to there stories about the war.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Kathleen2 on March 14, 2008, 03:58:59 PM
I remember them well moorsy and when you mentioned about the new lamps being fitted I thought about one of my uncles. His job was to light the gas lamps. I can't remember what his route was but he did tell me many years ago. After that I think he went to work in Ross's lemonade factory.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: BLOOMFIELD on March 14, 2008, 06:08:26 PM
Moorsy

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Kathleen, aye it was just as well we did,nt realise how bad of we were

Growing up in Belfast ( born 1942 ) In my naivety, I thought most of the

Western World lived the same kind of lives as us.

Unknown to me, Ireland had the lowest standard of living in Europe, at

that time, I suppose we were happy in our ignorance.

Most people did not have the money to holiday in Foreign countries, so

they did not know any better.

When I came to Canada in 1971, it was a case of Culture shock.

Even in the smallest Restaurant, each table had its own salt / pepper /

Ketchup / vinegar / paper serviettes, and  " FREE " glasses of water  :o

At lunch time, I would go to a nearby Greasy spoon type Chinese

restaurant still wearing wearing my overalls, and at the next table were

Business men with their briefcases and 3 piece suits.

Coffee was 25 cents a cup, refills 15 cents----------nowadays coffee is

about $ 2.2, with unlimited free refills.

There was less class distinction, and one did not need University entrance

qualification, to become a clerk / typist.

When you left School, one did not have to sign a form that you understood

that you could not return at a later date.

Night Schools are open until late at night, you can go back to school no

matter what age you are.


You can start an Apprenticeship at ANY   age

Churches are for the people, none of this " having to dress up to go to

church ", you can see jeans / t shirts, and at Christmas Eve the young kids

 might be wearing pyjamas.

It is a more easy going lifestyle here, with less of the " keeping up with the

 neighbours."

At one time I had 4 cars, all taxed and insured, one car was only for taking

the dogs down to the [censored] for a swim. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 14, 2008, 07:25:37 PM
 One of the fella,s in our street was a lamplighter.his family name was Symington,he had his route on the albertbridge rd. around templemore ave.

 His brother Brian.runs the deaf & dumb institutsion on Wellington Place

 Bloom,same age as myself,born in july. very true what you said.
 
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 15, 2008, 12:29:18 AM

  Ormeau bakery got no more horses
  Dam,d electric carts now do their courses
  but weest a minute, what,s that greetin
  them clip clop sounds down by oul Ma Meekins
  Its Maggie Rollins from sandy row
  her oul nag an cart are movin slow
  shoutin,singin her oul cart piggin
  galer yer regs and left aff clothes
  I,ll give ye a bob for yer bundle of those
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: BLOOMFIELD on March 15, 2008, 03:44:31 AM
When I was a kid, during the Summer holidays, I would go with the
milkman with his horse and cart on the remainder of his rounds,

I helped delivering the milk to the houses, and as an added bonus for the milkman, I picked up any coal that was lying on the street from the coalmen's carts.

Sometimes he let me take the horse's reins.  I thought that I was controlling the horse, but I think that old nag knew the route better than me. :-[
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 15, 2008, 01:06:52 PM
BLOOM. Was there anything better than sitting  up on the seat of the cart, looking down on your world on sat/morning then of to the pictures to see Hopalong Cassidy.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 15, 2008, 01:36:44 PM
 Childer back from school,the street is hivin,
 Wee girls laughin,playin,jivin,
 Freckles,ginger hair,and pigtails flyin,
 Skirts tucked inta knickers,skipping rope,
 Wee Sammy Reid,  silly we dope,
 Calls them names and gets bate up
 Hopscotch squares.Sammy gurnin,
 Boys playin marlies,fightin,cheatin,
 Harried mothers yellin for their weens,
 Front doors slam from til to shut,
 to the want-in whine of a black stray mutt,

 Quietness falls on Carmel Street,
 Granda Brown can get to sleep
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Kathleen2 on March 15, 2008, 05:44:08 PM
Laying in bed on a Saturday morning, listening to mom and dad talking in the kitchen below and hearing the cups, plates and cutlery clattering as they got ready to set the table and cook breakfast. Finally the smell of fried bacon and eggs wafting up the stairs and you knew it was time to get up. Ahhhh bliss.

Another great poem there moorsy. I remember those days playing on the street. Dolls and prams.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 15, 2008, 06:20:53 PM
Who could stay in bed with the fry on?

 I,ll give you one kathleen, look for the next one
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 15, 2008, 06:44:05 PM
 The miss Aikens shop is on the corner
 Spinster sisters never takin
 To ould now,for courtin,matin.
 Were ye goin ma?  I,m away to the bakery
 can I come to,says her starvin wee son,
 Kathleen McGimpsey  there with her mum,
 finishing off her paris bun.
 Annie Armstrong,s grocery is aways piggin,
 very little business fer that cheatin bizom
Fusco,s chippy is on the Ormeau
 greasy fish an frizzeled pasties
 I,d rather go to Pat McCaskey,s.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Kathleen2 on March 15, 2008, 07:05:12 PM
You write them so quickly and so well ! Every one brings back a memory and Paris Buns were one of my favorites. They had that lovely crunchy sugary topping. Thanks moorsy, never had my name in a poem before :)
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: BLOOMFIELD on March 15, 2008, 09:46:18 PM
MOORSY

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BLOOM. Was there anything better than sitting  up on the seat of the cart, looking down on your world

Until the horse lifted it's tail. :-[ :D
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 15, 2008, 11:10:31 PM
MOORSY

Until the horse lifted it's tail. :-[ :D
 
 Ah, the scent of nature,cleans the sinuses. My gran would run out to scope up the crap for her roses.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: BLOOMFIELD on March 16, 2008, 05:13:31 AM
 I think that I have a funny sense of smell, the smell of freshly manufactured

horse manure, or road killed Skunk, never really bothered me too much. 8)

It must have been because of the Company I hung with. :-[ ::) :D
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Distoney on March 16, 2008, 12:23:32 PM
Brilliant poems Moorsy

They so reflect what it was like to be living in poverty stricken streets of Belfast years ago.  Thank goodness, times are not just as tough now although I recognised that there are still quite poor families yet.

Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 16, 2008, 03:39:30 PM
Ddstoney, I guess as one gets older ones thoughts go back to their childhood more and more. For better or worst.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Arlene on March 16, 2008, 03:49:09 PM
Great poems Moorsy O0 I enjoyed them all  :) they bring back a lot of memories  :) thanks for sharing them  O0
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Distoney on March 16, 2008, 05:46:05 PM
Reading these poems and the messages they give along with all the other threads on this forum, we could make a very successful soap opera based in Belfast, if not the whole of Northern Ireland and it doesnt all have to be about the troubles, just the day to day lives of ordinary people.

Dublin has Fair City and a few others, Scotland and England have had theirs, so why not Northern Ireland.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Kathleen2 on March 16, 2008, 06:07:42 PM
Sandy Row WAS a soap opera. Just ordinary people going about their daily lives but always on the edge of some kind of drama. Small houses, big families, poor wages, close neighbours etc. I have more fond memories than not. Moorsy is doing a great job at recalling some of it.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 16, 2008, 06:20:43 PM
KATHLEEN, Did you know Jean Houston from Rowland st. by any chance ?
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Kathleen2 on March 16, 2008, 06:29:17 PM
No I don't recall a Jean Houston. I used to chum about with a girl called June Nellins who lived in Rowland Street and she had a brother called Steven. They lived at the very top of Rowland Street in a brick house, not a whitewashed one. I can remember my mother taking me to visit her friend May Millar who lived there and she had a very large family, ten children or something like that living in one of those little houses. My mother always called her by the affectionate name of " Wee May."
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 16, 2008, 07:06:03 PM
KATHLEEN, Jean lived in #71 three brothers John, Sammy, and Billy, also a younger sister,name unknown who would be about 42 now.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Kathleen2 on March 16, 2008, 07:13:48 PM
No I'm sorry moorsy I don't know them. The names don't even ring a bell.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 16, 2008, 07:21:05 PM
KATHLEEN,  Ah, these lost loves are hard to find :-[ :(
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Kathleen2 on March 16, 2008, 07:30:28 PM
Was Jean a girlfriend at one time moorsy ?
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 16, 2008, 08:09:38 PM
KATHLEEN,  Love of my life.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: harrydunn on March 16, 2008, 08:26:37 PM
Moorsy Jean has now got your Email addy!
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 16, 2008, 09:13:40 PM
HARRY, Thanks a million, Take to you soon buddy.
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Post by: moorsy on March 18, 2008, 10:19:28 PM
   Easter time we went to the coast
   salty air and fish & chips
   99,s an ice cream sliders
   T.T. races on the monday
   Point to points on a sunday
   Sneak in the trains at Portrush station
   Betterin the sand dunes for a sleep
   Duke the guards till 1 o,clack
   til they punch the time clacks an go away home
   Hang around the jukebox at the arcades
   Shirelles and Motown were all the rage
   chat up the girls and hope to click
   find a spot thats dark and get a cuddle
   Jean an Eva are watchin the clack
   their B&B closes at 12 o,clack
   Big Sids workin at the Metropole
   steals us grub an a battle of Mundies
   give yourself a lick at the lavies
   dont stink to bad for the next wee lassie
   Tuesday night its back on the train
   bummin an blowin on the way hame
   
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 19, 2008, 04:48:06 PM
 Who,s that wandering by ould man Dover,s
 ouch, its Sammy Seaweed that comin over
 half a brain is all he,s got left
 since the cattle ran him over
 happened at Easter one fine day
 Sammy got tossed and down he lay
 cattle goin to market ran away
 on the embankment that fateful morn
 and poor sammy ,s got a different life to-day.

 Sammy seaweed McClory.    1940-1982.

Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: harrydunn on March 19, 2008, 05:23:08 PM
 Eva likes your poem Moorsy ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 19, 2008, 05:27:50 PM
Well I like Eva :-* Which one did she like,the one about Portrush????.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: harrydunn on March 19, 2008, 05:39:08 PM
We were talking one day of the Shankill,
About schooldays and when times were hard,
Jawboxes,coalholes and sculleries,
Every year you whitewashed the yard.

Mutton dummies and sleeves on blankets
Bath tubs and front of the fire
Guiders and swinging on lamp posts
Bikes you could take out for hire.

Everyone remembered their wireless
and oilcloth on every floor
you didn't lock up when you went to bed
There was no key for the big front door.

You went to "Wee Joe's" to see pictures
We all played football in the street
If you went for a day to the seaside
That was a special treat

Yet we all agreed on one question
That we enjoyed those days long ago
When we never went far from the Shankill
And our spirits were never low.

So you see although we're all scattered
It's not hard to understand
You can take the man away from the Shankill
But not the Shankill away from the man

    ALBERT HASLETT.
          

Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: harrydunn on March 19, 2008, 05:47:57 PM
The one about portrush Moorsy. the year before we got married we went to a guest house in Portrush with her g/father as chaperone.
went to a dance in The Arcadia on the saturday night as it was on to midnight we got a front door key off the landlady, anyway we arrived back at the house after the dance and a wee curt, got the key in the door but little did we know the owners son had put the snib on before he went to bed
i think we woke half of Portrush hammering on the door before they eventually they let us in.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 19, 2008, 06:39:27 PM
Some of those ould landladys were right biddys. Didnt know first hand as we never would spend our dough on somewhere to sleep. We caught on to the trains,and it was great for a while until the word got around,and it turned into Sodom and Gomarra.then one night some apaches set fire to a carriege and that was the end of that,the G.N.R. moved the trains down to Portsteward to sit overnight.But being wee [censored] we soon found a shed by the harbour to kip in, only thing it stunk of fish!!.We always tried to hook up with any birds staying in the caravans on the west cliffs no matter what they looked like. I remember 3 birds from Derry,what a wild night :P :P :P
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 19, 2008, 06:40:25 PM
Brilliant poem by the way Harry.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 19, 2008, 06:45:43 PM
Harry did Jean ever tell Eva about the Elvis picture being stolen???
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: harrydunn on March 20, 2008, 11:30:15 AM
tell me more Moorsey, Eva Is now A born again christian and has been   involved with the Church for many years, i'm still the same reprobate she married all those years ago.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 22, 2008, 08:37:09 PM
 From the Horsey hill to Shaws bridge
 along the Lagan is were I lived
 Botanic gardens,kings bridge
annadale side,brick clay hills
 soup factory,stranmillis college
 people earnin,people learnin,

 The towpath starts on Bladen side
 sense of history now forgotten
 Clydesdales once were pullin barges
 loaded down with Ulsters commerce
 all the way from Lisburn town

 Canal began at 1st locks
 made a grand wee fishin spot
 jam jars hangin from a string
 for holdin guggys newts and things
 Tayto crisps an sasparillo
 bacon sandwiches ma had made us
 kept us out til supper time.

Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: giannineo on March 22, 2008, 09:18:11 PM
Brill Moorsy, I had forgotten about the soup factory and Horsey Hill.Were Guggies wee fish called gudgeons?.The brickies was the place for catching newts  and The Minnowburn for red breasted stickelback spricks.
   I remember helping my brother assemble a collection of specimens for his Senior Certificate Biology.Caddis fly larvae, longboatmen, frogs, toads, newts, water beetles, tadpoles,  up to forty different species, and all available to catch along the towpath. I wonder if these species still thrive there. Fishing for rudd and roach at the first lock with a piece of dought on a hook.There was a monster pike seen occasionally near the first lock and estimated to be about thiry pounds weight .I saw it once   slow moving and so big it was scary.
   Stories about  lighter horse kicking a bargeman to death.The playing fields at Botanic, the wee sort of strange rockery garden at Botanic, the tropical ravine with the carp pond  and where bananas were grown during the war.Getting chased by Parkies for carrying on.Do you remember the wee punt on a rope to get across to the Boat Club past the Stranmillis Locks?
    A mate and I were locked ina big barge which was run aground on the Lagan on the Annadale Embankment.We were in it catching elvers when someone slammed the hatch down and locked it.Darkness came and we became frightened.Our cries for help were heard by soemone who came and let us out and gave us such a telling off for being there anyway. Got whacked at home for being late.The mate was a Kevin Magee born in Canada and who perished in the Chinook helicopter crash on the Scottish Coast.Last saw Kevin about 1963.
   Our playground was like yours from the Holy Land to Shaw's Bridge and Minnowburn and ther biggest adventure park in the world at Belvoir.I remember going to Newforge and swimming in a big pond caused by flooding, and geeting dry in time for going home without my folks knowing. .
      If my parents had known I was any of these places I would have been grounded permanently....happy memories of South Belfast as we each have of our own area of the City.For some strange reason you would some times find bullets around Minnowburn and Shaw's Bridge and I know of someone finding a German WW2 Luger pistol around there.

Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 22, 2008, 10:48:38 PM
O.K. lets see G.,
                          Guggys were gudgeons,and the minnowburn had salmon in it at one time,I never seen any,but we caught brown trout under the bank by tickling them lots of times,put them on a stick and cooked them whole over a wood fire.  Never heard of the big pike but a remember the punt to the boat club,up a bit from the lock. do you mind the low fence along the bank just below the lock? thats were we fished. The soup factory was maybe the first in the world to make powdered soup.

One summer night at the brick works I went head first into the pond while trying to catch newts. Totally covered in mud and soaking I started home,before I got there the mud had dried and I freaked kids out as I made my way through the Gardens.My ma would,nt let me in and made me take a bath in the back yard.I even mind the brick yards on the ormeau side of ridgeway st.

We didnt go to ormeau park much as the Gardens were our playground
Big Sam the parkie was forever chasing us in the "Puzzle Walks"and from the "Doggie Box",the shelter at the bandstand.Do you mind those awful football pitches covered in cinders.?

 
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Kathleen2 on March 22, 2008, 11:05:49 PM
 Does anyone remember going to see " The Mummy" in the museum at the gardens. Wasn't she supposed to be an Egyption princess or something like that ? I used to love looking at her in her glass coffin :D
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Post by: naumai on March 22, 2008, 11:50:16 PM
G/day Moorsy and G,we used to come over to the brickfields from the Woodstock rd, as it was the best place to catch newts we knew.and my first job was in Ridgeway st ,    I see you are in Winnipeg my oldest son lived there for a few years,married a girl from Arborg. reckons it took him two years to thaw out when he came home. cheers Alanb.
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Post by: moorsy on March 23, 2008, 03:11:55 PM
Hi Kathleen,happy Easter,did you go to the Boardwalk to see the parade?

I remember the "mummy" always gave it a look when we went there There used to be movies for kids on sat/mornings.Do you mind the big Irish Elk exhibit,it was the equivalent to dinosaurs today.huge thing.There was a great exhibit of the Korean War when it was on.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 23, 2008, 03:23:18 PM
Hi Naumai,   I have a cottage near Arborg,close to Gimli,up there all summer.

The brickworks clay was played out quickly and built on first on the ormeau side
Annadale school was build on them later.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: giannineo on March 23, 2008, 03:34:35 PM
The Mummy....yip, a Methody boy put a note in the glass case...."here lies the body of Willie John;his bicycle stopped and he went on"....we were banned for a year....I remeber the puzzle walk in Botanic Gardens   we had a lunchtime smoking den until the parkie saw the smoke coming out of the top....names in book ..I told him my name was Joh Cobb the water  speed champion , my mates were Michael Hailwood, Brian London and Tommy Dickson and we all lved in Hyde Park off the Malone Road...strange our parents never received the letter he threatened to send to them about our misdemeanour ;D
   The changing rooms in Botanic were stark and I can still remember the clatter of leather studs on the concrete ramp running down to the pitches.A wet swollen caser would knock you out if you headed it.the cinders were horrendous and I am sure many a Belfast lad carries some cinder under the skin of a knee or shin.I havr part of Glasgow in my knee from cinders at Ruchill Park footie pitch.
 I went to some films on a Saturday morning at the museum.I liked the dug out canoes, the big war canoe and the hole you looked through to see the colorado beetles.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Kathleen2 on March 23, 2008, 03:50:46 PM
Hi moorsy and G. Happy Easter to you both ! No moorsy I didn't see the parade, I'm up to my eyes with cooking preparations for tonight's family dinner and I still have to hide the eggs for the grandkids. I have a vague memory of that Irish Elk. One thing I do remember was that huge marble statue of " The Thinking Man" at the entrance. Beautiful ! And all the lovely paintings in the art galleries. My friends and I used to spend hours in that museum and then walk around the gardens always ending up in the "hot house" as we called it. Lovely palm trees and lush foliage.

G. you crack me up with your recollections  ;D

Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: giannineo on March 23, 2008, 10:48:12 PM
Kathleen, the names we gave to the parkie.  Michael Hailwood was a world champion motor cyclist, Brian London was a boxer, and Tommy Dickson was a Linfield player ...the oul parkie wasn't the brightest star in the firmament. ;D
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Christopher on March 24, 2008, 03:31:31 AM
Moorsy

Growing up in Belfast ( born 1942 ) In my naivety, I thought most of the

Western World lived the same kind of lives as us.

Unknown to me, Ireland had the lowest standard of living in Europe, at

that time, I suppose we were happy in our ignorance.


I wonder how much has changed.

There's still great poverty in Ireland despite the Celtic Tiger.

www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,766.msg156461.html#msg156461
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 24, 2008, 03:51:35 PM
Christopher,just read your sites on poverty,the numbers are scary,in a so called welfare state yet! What is considered "the poverty line"? Are many people still immigrating to-day?.
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Post by: moorsy on March 24, 2008, 06:46:57 PM
Hi G.  Saying brian London was a boxer could be argumental.

I think the dugout canoe was from the Solomon Islands,and the mummy,s name was Takiburi.
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Post by: giannineo on March 24, 2008, 07:00:05 PM
 ;D   Moorsy, do you remember one fight when London's brother and others got in the ring and started a better fight than the one people paid to see.....indeed,London did not quite float like a butterfly ;) :D
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Post by: Kathleen2 on March 24, 2008, 07:04:29 PM
Kathleen, the names we gave to the parkie.  Michael Hailwood was a world champion motor cyclist, Brian London was a boxer, and Tommy Dickson was a Linfield player ...the oul parkie wasn't the brightest star in the firmament. ;D

Oh G, you are awful. But I like you :D
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 24, 2008, 07:30:30 PM
Indeed I do G.  I watched Henry Cooper spar in a gym around the Old Kent Rd in London once.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 24, 2008, 08:25:26 PM
Brian London was on the canvas so much he had a cauliflower bum. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on March 30, 2008, 11:27:36 PM
Goin,back is hard to do
after a long while especially true,
cause memories,ye want to keep.

We hadna much,its why we left
that dull and dreary town
the only thing we had was youth
to overcome what we missing out.

The T.V. brought in all these places
where there was hope
for futures bright
Where we right or were we wrong?

Everybody sings there own song.

Visitin,not like livin there
but the Town ,shes lookin better.
and God bless all who stayed there.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: BLOOMFIELD on March 31, 2008, 01:33:40 AM
Moorsy

We were happy in our ignorance ( of the rest of the World )

I enjoyed myself in Belfast, but I am glad that I now live in Canada.

Religion / class / ethnicity / sex, in Canada is of no consequence.

I really enjoy your " Poems " you seem to catch the down and dirty, nitty

gritty, Belfast.
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Post by: moorsy on March 31, 2008, 03:29:18 PM
BLOOM.
Moorsy

We were happy in our ignorance ( of the rest of the World )

I enjoyed myself in Belfast, but I am glad that I now live in Canada.

Religion / class / ethnicity / sex, in Canada is of no consequence.

I really enjoy your " Poems " you seem to catch the down and dirty, nitty

gritty, Belfast.

BLOOM,  Like I say,when T.V.started showing what was out there.we wanted more.  thanks for your comments.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on April 06, 2008, 09:21:02 PM
Some interesting things about the "Gardens".they were private at one time and a admisson charge was levied. In 1864,eleven people ascended in Mr Coswells 100 feet high balloon "Britannia" the largest in the world at the time.

Thousands filled the gardens in 1867 to witness an ascent by William Hodsman,the first man to cross the Irish sea by air.It took over six hours to inflate the balloon.

A "spectacular"took place on september 1st 1885. The entire gardens were illuminated with over 20,000 crystal lamps and fireworks at dusk and entertainment by the Royal Inniskillings band.

A lady parachutist drew a large crowd in 1891. and there was dancing in the Exhibition Hall.

The Gardens were purchased by the City in 1895 for 10,500 pound and opened as a public park.
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Post by: cathy bell on April 11, 2008, 03:47:21 AM
Moorsey,
Thanks for your poems, enjoyed them very much, has brought back so many memories to us on the bf.We were all poor but we were all in the same boat, I still to this day think I had a great childhood in Ligoniel, we may have been poor but that didnt' stop us from using our imagination and what imaginations we all had. None of us had toys we played with what ever we could find and had fun. We used to go camping over the fields, our tent was 2 potato bags from the green grocers which we sewed together, ofcourse it didnt' help keep us dry when it rained, but we thought we were the goats toe, we had a tent !
Todays world has changed for our children and grand kids, no matter where we live the future generations cannot live as free as we did and I think that is a shame.
Keep the poems comming,
Cathy
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Post by: moorsy on April 11, 2008, 03:29:34 PM
Cathy,   Thanks for the comments,very well put!  We did have a great childhood,and I realize that more and more.   "The goats toe"?? I hav,nt heard that one before,good one!

Watch for another poem coming soon.
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Post by: moorsy on April 20, 2008, 04:32:07 PM
                                               THE  TRAMS.

Ould Double Decker Trams,
clinkin and clankin
this way an that
were rails will take them

they could go in each direction
without even turnin round
big round noses comin at ya
one light and a big cow-catcher
wee sign for were its goin.

Live wires were sparkin
goin up the hills
one got tired of crawlin along
ran down the hill at Skegonill
shops on the Shore road
finally stopped it

Drivers sittin pullin levers
conductors up and down the stairs
cant mind when they stopped
and the trolley buses came along
quiet as mice after the Trams
you could fall asleep
to the end of the line.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on April 21, 2008, 03:08:54 PM
Do any of you remember the "runaway tram"??  I cant mind if any people were killed in the accident.
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Post by: moorsy on April 23, 2008, 05:09:01 PM
http://www.stenlake.co.uk/books/344.htm

Anybody interested in the old trams might try this book,lots of photos of the old girls.

service stopped in 1954.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: trassa on May 26, 2008, 02:38:53 PM
moorsys poems reminded me so much of growing up in ardoyne in the 60s it was true we did not know how poor we were. i lived with my granny who to my mortal shame went round in a black shawl i would love to see her and her shawl now, its funny i could not wait to leave but its a time and place i love to remember. its so nice to see others share these memories.
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Post by: moorsy on July 31, 2008, 10:07:56 PM
the Buses.

trolleys and noisy diesels
double-deckers and twenty seaters
green and red buses
transporting people

explore your city
on a sunday
ride the bus up to the zoo
the trolleys go to far greencastle
greens and reds to the kings hall too

cherryvalley!  get the single decker
it goes in front of city hall
ride the oldpark
up the mountain
walk along the hillfoot road
get the cave-hill down again

the gasworks to waterworks
was my favorite
across the city
south to north

sandy row seen it through
across the falls it went
over the shankill
down the crumlin
duncairn gardens too

it went to dunmore
for dog races
hopeful faces,tip sheets reading
most were gloomy
all the way home
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on August 02, 2008, 11:46:41 PM
"moorsy"

just read your thread and it was brilliant, I think you should put all these poems into a book, it would be great. O0

I hope when you return from the cottage you will write more, your poems brought back so many memories. Do you remember putting the Black Lead on the old fireplaces. The one that always got me in big trouble with my Aunt, who lived next door, was the Cardinal Red on the front doorstep. I used to always walk on it before it was dry, and she would yell at me.  My husband and I were just talking to our daughter the other night about the half moon washed around the front of the door, why did we do this? :idiot2: I came from a large family and I know it was rough but we still had a lot of happy times.

Val   O0 O0
 
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on August 03, 2008, 05:54:06 AM
vAL,THE ONE THAT ALWAYS GETS ME IS THE COALMAN,WALKING THROUGH THE HOUSE WITH THE SACK OF COAL BRUSHING UP AGAINST THE WALLS,AND THE LITTLE BOX WITH THE NETTING FOR KEEPING THE BUTTER AND MILK ETC COOL.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on August 03, 2008, 04:35:27 PM
Hi "moorsy"

your right, we used to get so many bags of Coal and a couple of bags of Slack and then he would go next door to my Aunt's and drop off a couple of bags for them, as they looked after us when my Mother died. It was put in the "coal hole" under the stairs.  ;D ;D
I have heard others talk about the little box with the net but I honestly don't think we had one, I must ask my brothers. We had a little cupboard in the kitchen/living room  were some things were stored and we had a pantry in the scullery. Then when the Kitchen cabinets came out my brother knocked the wall down between the scullery & pantry and made it bigger.
Val :)
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Montrose on August 03, 2008, 05:17:15 PM

Moorsy,

So glad you have started your poems again, you are very talented...please don't waste it.
The poetry has made, the old Belfast we all knew and loved, come alive again. looking forward to the next Poem.... Thank You ...NG   
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on August 04, 2008, 12:17:54 AM
THANKS, MONTROSE AND VAL FOR YOUR COMMENTS.   MY GOD I HAD FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE BAGS OF SLACK!!  AND THE COAL-HOLE UNDER THE STAIRS.  WE ALL HELP WITH MEMORIES.   most of these memories are set in the 50s.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on August 04, 2008, 12:40:21 AM
"moorsy"

what about "coal brick" ?   Hope you have a great summer at the cottage, do some writing while your there.  ;D ;D ;D

Val
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on August 04, 2008, 12:47:02 AM
WOO!!  Coal-brick! thats another one, I can see them now,steaming on the old horse and cart.

will be around for another week as I have another wedding next sat/day.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on August 04, 2008, 01:00:11 AM
Great, then we will have more poems. ;) O0

Val
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Post by: moorsy on August 05, 2008, 03:27:48 AM
                          BELFAST      GREYHOUND       TRACKS

                                        When I was young
                                        and liked a bet
                                        two belfast dog tracks
                                        is were I went.

                                        Celtic Park,
                                        once the home
                                        of football greats
                                        and Belfast Celtic
                       
                                       Memories of games
                                       that stirred the passions
                                       blowing in the wind
                                       from Divis mountain
                                       like battin dockets
                                       from the dog races

                                       The only excitment
                                       left in the Park
                                       cheered and cursed at
                                       is the dogs.

                                      The other side of town
                                      is Dunmore Stadium
                                      hidden away near Limestone rd,
                                      greyhound meetings
                                      wed/day & sat/day
                                      Celtic Park is mon/day ,friday.

                                      Nothin fancy about these places
                                      falling down stands
                                      and crumbling terraces
                                      desperation reigns supreme

                                      Bookies and Punters
                                      need each other
                                      hate each other just as keen
                                      Eastwood, McAlevey Lawton
                                      and a dozen more
                                     
                                      There they stand
                                      with their guarny faces
                                      up on their stools
                                      chalk in hand
                                      beside their blackboards
                                      setting the odds

                                      The bookie ready with his eraser
                                      to change the odds
                                      in one quick swipe
                                      watching each other down the line
                                      like vultures waiting for the pickings.
 
                                      The clerk,his mind
                                      is like a machine
                                      yer man was good
                                      at sums in school
                                      figuring odds and
                                      losses and profits
                                      for the night. ...cant afford a single slip
 
                                     The Tic-Tak man
                                     with his white gloves
                                     sending messages across the track
                                     from the bookies pitch
                                     on the other side
                                     a signaling system all his own
 
                                     A sharp mind
                                     was what was needed
                                     and plenty of luck
                                     aye, that too
                                     to leave the races
                                     with a profit
                                     and that applies
                                     to the bookies too

                                    Even if you won
                                    you might be lucky
                                    to get paid out
                                    by the bookie

                                    The whinin voice
                                    and the hard luck story
                                    they,d make you wait
                                    till their in the dough.
   
                                                                          This is the end  ( Jim Morrison )

                                 GOODBUY   MY   FRIENDS.
                                     
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: cara on August 10, 2008, 10:36:55 PM
Moorsy,

So glad you have started your poems again, you are very talented...please don't waste it.
The poetry has made, the old Belfast we all knew and loved, come alive again. looking forward to the next Poem.... Thank You ...NG   

How fantastic to be able to write like that. .Dont stop. .How about a book??
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Post by: Val on August 10, 2008, 10:39:04 PM
Moorsy

I hope you haven't gone back to the cottage without saying "Bye" to us.

Val  ;) ;)
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Post by: moorsy on August 11, 2008, 01:30:04 AM
Hi VAL,  NO  JUST RECOVERING FROM ANOTHER WEDDING, I WILL BE AROUND FOR A WHILE YET. :coolsmiley: :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on August 11, 2008, 01:50:29 AM
Great. ..too much bending the elbow and burning th candle at both ends. ;D ;D

...Val  O0
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on August 11, 2008, 01:53:07 AM
both weddings had open ( free ) bars all night O0 O0
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on August 11, 2008, 01:55:45 AM
Isn't that usually the way it is.... ???
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on August 11, 2008, 02:03:32 AM
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?  DIDNT SEE ANYONE DRUNK OR MAKING A FOOL OF THEMSELVES.   i  DONT THINK ITS USUAL FOR THE BAR TO BE FREE ALL NIGHT, MAYBE IN RICH ONTARIO BUT NOT HERE.  WHEN MY FOUR DAUGHTERS WERE MARRIED THE BAR WAS,NT OPEN EXCEPT BEFORE DINNER.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on August 11, 2008, 02:07:42 AM
Cheapo !!   just joking, with 4 daughters I can understand why. ;D but I have to say that any weddings I have been to its an open bar. Your right though, I don't think people drink as much or they drink more responsibly, if that makes sense.
Talk to you again, Goodnight moorsy,
Val O0
 
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on September 06, 2008, 11:58:58 PM
HI Moorsy,

I don't know if you are back at the cottage again, regardless, I hope you are writing some more of your Belfast verse. I know some of us are patiently waiting for some more.
Hope you enjoyed your summer. O0

Val  :) :-* ;)
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on September 11, 2008, 06:00:55 PM
 
 Hi Val, how are you ? .   I,m to busy at the moment to write.  been making lots of cottage signs all summer, custom made for whatever people want, and now I have started putting to-gether an exhibition of paintings for showing during the winter and spring.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on September 11, 2008, 06:26:02 PM
Hi Moorsy,

you are multi-talented, do you have a website for viewing your work. My youngest brother is an artist. I have some of his paintings. Do you paint landscapes or people. I hope we get a chance to see some of you work on here. You will be sorry you answered me, do you make your cottage signs for people out of the Province?

Val  ;D
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on September 11, 2008, 06:59:19 PM
 
Val,  no website, work home ,sportmen, and craft shows. Just finished a Mallard pair in acyrilic,but do oils as well. Mostly street and wild fowl, thats were the money is.  People are hard but will work from photos.  DO SIGNS FOR ANYWHERE.   Had a booth in the Colusium at the EX. in T.O. a few years ago but it was so expensive.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on September 11, 2008, 11:14:49 PM
Hi Moorsy,

I am sure the Ex. was expensive, you will have to take some photo's and post them for us, who knows you may get some clients. I would love to see them.

Val. O0
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on September 12, 2008, 03:53:59 AM
 
 Val, tried my hand at carving Totem Poles with a chain saw while at my cottage, but they ended up like popsical sticks. Just could,nt master it. Maybe next summer.  [
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on September 12, 2008, 07:07:55 PM

 Val, tried my hand at carving Totem Poles with a chain saw while at my cottage, but they ended up like popsical sticks. Just could,nt master it. Maybe next summer.  [

Geez, do you have all of your fingers??? With your talent I'm sure you will, now I would be in line for one of those.

Val  O0
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on September 12, 2008, 07:29:48 PM

  SO FAR VAL I STILL HAVE ALL SIX.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on September 12, 2008, 07:32:47 PM
 :idiot2: :idiot2: :idiot2: :idiot2: ::) ;D
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on September 12, 2008, 07:43:19 PM
         

        HEY  !!!!! ..I,VE GOT FEELINGS YOU KNOW.  
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on September 12, 2008, 08:03:24 PM


Sorry. ...  :-*[ ;) ;D
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: DOFFER on September 12, 2008, 09:54:47 PM
read your poems morrsy loved them brought back such memories ,ie paris buns /coal brick etc as an old timer born in 1938 i recall much of the poverty but also as cathy bell said some of the warm &happy memories from way back ,2 up 2 down outside loo how did we ever cope ?,i was a mill girl from aged 14 to 18 ,i have moved on a bit since then but still recall my days at mill with fondness ,all great girls we were all in the same boat so to speak ,i like cathy was a wee ligoniel girl then a crumlin rd lass  :-\ though i now live a wonderful full life i guess i always will be a wee belfast girl made good  ;D

anyhow once again great poems and great memories

marg
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on September 13, 2008, 01:42:02 AM

  THANKS MARG FOR YOUR COMMENTS,  MY GRAN WAS A DOFFER AND TOLD ME MANY STORIES.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on September 13, 2008, 03:01:56 PM
Good Morning Moorsy,

are you trying to confuse us with another 'Dunderin'  Thread?

Val  O0
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on September 17, 2008, 10:35:23 PM

    Val !     just got back from the cottage.   what are you talking about.???
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on September 18, 2008, 03:52:23 AM
Moorsy,

Welcome back. .I thought I was crackin' up but when  I posted that,  there was two "Dunderin In" threads beside each other.  I checked and there is another one on the second page posted by, no other than, "moorsy". 
Now who is  crazy ?  :  ;D
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on September 18, 2008, 04:02:49 AM
   

      ME    NO    NO.       ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on September 18, 2008, 09:21:31 PM
Yes, yes. ...did you check it out. ...Val  ::)
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on December 18, 2008, 04:43:39 PM
                   

                          CARMEL STREET  1950

                Cobble stone streets,empty of cars
                gas street lamps along the street
                lamplighters ladder to fix the mantle
                a pool of light on a winters night.

                Wee front gardens at parlour houses
                iron railings gone for world war tanks
                streets with concrete air-raid shelters
                steel blast doors and iron shutters
                stink of [censored] and god knows what.

                Dark damp houses all in rows
                four small rooms with peeling paper
                gateleg table,couch, and sideboard
                coalhole underneath the stairs.

                Stone sink under scullery window
                one cold tap with squeeking handle
                lino floor and an old gas cooker
                never room to swing the cat.

                White-washed yards and outside toilets
                candle and matchs for at night
                radio times to clean your [censored] with
                big long chain to flush the loo.

                Coal smoke hanging in the air
                sooty fogs on winter nights
                turns the snow to black from white
                chills your body to the bone

                Outside the houses
                your would,nt know
                that its christmas time
                in five more nights.
               
               
             

           

             

               

Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Kathleen2 on December 18, 2008, 05:49:14 PM
Nice to see you back Moorsy and in brilliant form with that poem O0
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on December 18, 2008, 06:05:51 PM

    KATHLEEN !!! .HOWS MY FAVORITE  McGIMPSEY.  KEEPING WELL I HOPE.

           ARE YOU IN THE MOOD YET FOR XMAS ??.   FINISHED MY SHOPPING YESTERDAY, I THOUGHT !!.   FORGOT I HAD,NT BEEN TO THE LIQUOR STORE.  HAVE TO HAVE MY HARVEY,S BRISTOL CREAM AT CHRISTMAS.
         
          STOCKED UP ON YORKSHIRE SAUSAGE,POTATO BREAD,SODAS ETC. AND GOT A GREAT PLUM DUFF.
                                  MERRY CHRISTMAS, MOORSY.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: desiree on December 18, 2008, 06:06:37 PM
Brilliant Moorsy - as per usual :) :)
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: DOFFER on December 18, 2008, 06:09:40 PM
thank you moorsy for the great poems who needs tv when we have memories like this

all you have written are vivid in my memory bank some sad some happy some in glorious technicolor &sepia but never the less by god we lived it it we came through it maney off us better people imo ,
thanks for the memories
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Kathleen2 on December 18, 2008, 06:13:25 PM
Merry Christmas to you too Moorsy :smitten: It's good to see you back on the forum again and writing your wonderful poems ! They always tug at my heartstrings and bring back lots of memories. You are a very gifted writer.

The family gifts are all bought and wrapped now and I have to do my big Christmas food shop this Saturday for the turkey etc. I've stocked up on the Cadbury's Milk Tray and Roses ;D. .you know just the essentials for a chocoholic like me ::)
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on December 18, 2008, 06:15:52 PM
  
    THANKS   D & D,  

                    REMEMBER I USED TO MAKE MONEY GUIDING THE CARS ROUND SHAFTSBURY SQUARE WHEN THE PEA SOUPS WERE REAL BAD.

                    AND THAT DAMN SQUEEKY BLOODY TAP, I CAN STILL HEAR IT !!!!.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on December 18, 2008, 06:24:12 PM
 
    K2,   YOU MUST LIKE CHOCOLATE AS MUCH AS ME,  WONDER IF IT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE RATIONING,WHEN YOU COULD,NT GET IT.

            SHOPPERS HAD A GOOD DEAL ON THEIR TINS OF QUALITY STREET LAST SUNDAY. ON FOR $10.99 INSTEAD OF $ 16.99.   THEY WENT LIKE MAGIC.  ALSO JACOB,S CRACKERS WERE $5.00.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on December 18, 2008, 06:25:56 PM
Hi Moorsy,

you are back in great form, tugging at our heart strings.  Did you get your Harvey's Bristol Cream, that is the only drink I ever remember in the house at Christmas and I never liked it.

I am trying to picture you guiding the cars round Shaftesbury Sq.  :D ;D

Did you get all your orders filled, I am sure you will glad of the rest. ;)

A very Merry Christmas to you and your family, and a Prosperous New Year. :angel: :angel:

Val  :smitten:
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on December 18, 2008, 06:27:58 PM
 
    K2,   YOU MUST LIKE CHOCOLATE AS MUCH AS ME,  WONDER IF IT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE RATIONING,WHEN YOU COULD,NT GET IT.

            SHOPPERS HAD A GOOD DEAL ON THEIR TINS OF QUALITY STREET LAST SUNDAY. ON FOR $10.99 INSTEAD OF $ 16.99.   THEY WENT LIKE MAGIC.  ALSO JACOB,S CRACKERS WERE $5.00.

Moorsy,

Jacob's crackers are 2 for $5.00 in Dominion now called Metro. I went to Jones St and got a tin of Roses for $24.95 and all the British stores were selling them for $34.95.

I forgot to ask, do you remember the EE sweetie coupons. ;D
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on December 18, 2008, 06:40:12 PM
Moorsy,

Jacob's crackers are 2 for $5.00 in Dominion now called Metro. I went to Jones St and got a tin of Roses for $24.95 and all the British stores were selling them for $34.95.

I forgot to ask, do you remember the EE sweetie coupons. ;D
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HIYA VAL, MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU TO.   I,M TALKING ABOUT A TIN OF JACOBS, IS IT A PACKAGE YOU MEAN AT $2.50 ??
          SO YOU WERE AT MY OLD HAUNT IN BRONTE,GOOD LITTLE STORE IS,NT IT.
          HAVE NEVER SEEN ROSES HERE,  K2  GOT SOME AS WELL.  CANT REMEMBER THOSE COUPONS.
         
          FUNNY THING ABOUT HARVEYS  SHERRY, WHEN I WAS ON MY OWN,A FRIEND FROM LEEDS INVITED THREE OR FOUR OFF US OVER FOR XMAS DINNER AND EVERY ONE OF US ENDED UP BRINGING  BRISTOL CREAM !!.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on December 18, 2008, 07:01:38 PM
Moorsy,

Jacob's crackers are 2 for $5.00 in Dominion now called Metro. I went to Jones St and got a tin of Roses for $24.95 and all the British stores were selling them for $34.95.

I forgot to ask, do you remember the EE sweetie coupons. ;D
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HIYA VAL, MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU TO.   I,M TALKING ABOUT A TIN OF JACOBS, IS IT A PACKAGE YOU MEAN AT $2.50 ??
          SO YOU WERE AT MY OLD HAUNT IN BRONTE,GOOD LITTLE STORE IS,NT IT.
          HAVE NEVER SEEN ROSES HERE,  K2  GOT SOME AS WELL.  CANT REMEMBER THOSE COUPONS.
         
          FUNNY THING ABOUT HARVEYS  SHERRY, WHEN I WAS ON MY OWN,A FRIEND FROM LEEDS INVITED THREE OR FOUR OFF US OVER FOR XMAS DINNER AND EVERY ONE OF US ENDED UP BRINGING  BRISTOL CREAM !!.

Moorsy,

sorry that was packets, I have never seen a tin. That store is fantastic, it was worth the drive although my husband wasn't so sure, I spent nearly a $100 that day. Of course he saw all the different bars of toffee so he had to get a couple of each but they didn't count. Now he wants to go Back for more of the Liguoice toffee because our one doesn't have that. You know everything they sell is at least 50c or better less than the other stores.

That is funny everyone of you bringing the Harvey's, I think every house in Belfast probably had a bottle of that at Christmas.

My husband say's he thinks I am older than I say because I tell him about the ration books and the sweet coupons. I remember well because my Aunt lived next door and if you went for a message for her, one time you would get thruppence and the next time you would get the coupon, then you could go and buy sweets. ;D 
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on December 18, 2008, 07:21:05 PM
   

     Val, loved the highland toffee bars, and always picked up dairy flakes to make my own 99s.
   
     loblaws sell the tins of Jacobs,you get a whole mix of crackers.

     There was another british store called Mortimers in Waterdown,that also had a bakery and butchers, dont know if its still there or not.

     Across Lakeshore from Jones,about a block to the right was a butcher that sold all the belfast breads etc.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on December 18, 2008, 07:28:53 PM
Moorsy,

we went down Bronte and then made a left at Lakeshore and Jones was the next street on the right, I think, I don't drive but what I remember. Now which way when we come out of Jones St ?
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on December 18, 2008, 07:32:18 PM
Do you remember the Name of the butchers or the street and we could find it with the GPS.

By the way Deke was asking about you, have you seen his thread on Exiles, "Around the World"

maybe you can post some pictures of the 'Peg.

Val  O0
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on December 18, 2008, 07:38:52 PM
Moorsy,

we went down Bronte and then made a left at Lakeshore and Jones was the next street on the right, I think, I don't drive but what I remember. Now which way when we come out of Jones St ?

 Cant remember the name of butchers, it would be a right turn out of Jones onto Lakeshore and on the left side just before the Harveys restaurant,before Nelson st.

 look for P.M.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: MOONDOG on December 19, 2008, 12:44:37 AM
HAPPY    FESTIVE TO  ALL U CANUCKS  .YANKS  ,AUSSIES  .NZEALANDERS.IN  FACT  TO ALL THE  PEOPLE  ON  OR NOW  OFF BF      THE  MOON
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: twocoats on December 19, 2008, 12:45:41 AM
HAPPY    FESTIVE TO  ALL U CANUCKS  .YANKS  ,AUSSIES  .NZEALANDERS.IN  FACT  TO ALL THE  PEOPLE  ON  OR NOW  OFF BF      THE  MOON

Same to yersel Moon O0
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Belle Fast on December 19, 2008, 12:48:17 AM
HAPPY    FESTIVE TO  ALL U CANUCKS  .YANKS  ,AUSSIES  .NZEALANDERS.IN  FACT  TO ALL THE  PEOPLE  ON  OR NOW  OFF BF      THE  MOON
Merry Christmas right back at you Mondog. 30c today, but I'm sure your getting reports from Rockingham :)
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on December 19, 2008, 03:26:11 AM
HAPPY    FESTIVE TO  ALL U CANUCKS  .YANKS  ,AUSSIES  .NZEALANDERS.IN  FACT  TO ALL THE  PEOPLE  ON  OR NOW  OFF BF      THE  MOON

  thanks  Moon, and to you and yours.  have a great next year. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: deke on December 19, 2008, 03:59:27 AM
HAPPY    FESTIVE TO  ALL U CANUCKS  .YANKS  ,AUSSIES  .NZEALANDERS.IN  FACT  TO ALL THE  PEOPLE  ON  OR NOW  OFF BF      THE  MOON

Thanks Moon and Merry Christmas to you and yours    O0
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on December 19, 2008, 04:07:36 AM
 

     DEKE !.   HOW,S YOURSELF.    THINGS A JINGLING IN KINGSTON???

     MERRY CHRISTMAS  TO YOU.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on January 17, 2009, 09:16:52 PM
Hi Moorsy,

it's about time we had another verse for Dunderin Ins. ....what about it.

Val  O0 
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on January 18, 2009, 01:55:31 AM
Hi Moorsy,

it's about time we had another verse for Dunderin Ins. ....what about it.

Val  O0 

i got nothing in mind just now val. :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Christopher on January 18, 2009, 02:09:37 AM
That's when I began asking questions such as how can they live like that and we can't.

Those were great questions to ask. Did you ever have a chat with local traders who granted their customers some credit ... butchers, chemists and newsagents? Most of them would have told you that the people who lived in big houses in up market areas were the ones who took the longest to settle their accounts. They may have settled those of the city centre department stores as they needed to show their faces in such places to keep up appearances but the small local traders tended to come further down the list. 
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on January 18, 2009, 02:16:13 AM
Those were great questions to ask. Did you ever have a chat with local traders who granted their customers some credit ... butchers, chemists and newsagents? Most of them would have told you that the people who lived in big houses in up market areas were the ones who took the longest to settle their accounts. They may have settled those of the city centre department stores as they needed to show their faces in such places to keep up appearances but the small local traders tended to come further down the list. 


you got that right christopher,i had a friend who done terrazzo floors in the star of " the pink panthers" new house ( you know who that was ) and he never did get paid.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on January 18, 2009, 02:27:26 AM

i got nothing in mind just now val. :-[ :-[

Just thought I would bring it forward for new members to read as they are so good.

Val  O0
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Eileenov on June 09, 2009, 03:31:57 PM
Oul, d,Da Da Dempsey spits and stutters
 His mangey dog lies in the gutters
 White washed yards and outside lavies
 Bookies crammed with greasy navvies
 Shuffing home with batin dockets
 Tappin mates with empty pockets
 Ha,penny chews and pokes and sliders
 Rusty prams make hand-made gliders
 Cabbage bacon smelly nappies
 The homely stench of Jean Mchaffies
 Scores a, childer gettin, fed
 Sardine packed to five a bed
moorsy,
I found you! Maybe we can revive the Holyland. Eileenov :)
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on June 09, 2009, 05:10:57 PM
moorsy,
I found you! Maybe we can revive the Holyland. Eileenov :)

   AH,   if only Eileen. :-*
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on June 30, 2009, 01:14:57 AM
I am bringing this forward for PG to read.

Val
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: pussy-galore on June 30, 2009, 01:28:34 AM
I am bringing this forward for PG to read.

Val

Thankyou very much Val - that was very thoughtful  O0
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Val on June 30, 2009, 01:30:00 AM
My Pleasure.  .Goodnight PG, I am off to read for awhile.

I don't have your stamina or age   :D
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: pussy-galore on June 30, 2009, 01:31:17 AM
Mangle grinders washboard scrubbers
 Spinners, doffers clad in rubbers
 Body washers tick collectors
 Mitchers duke the school inspectors
 Scrubbed half-moons and shiny knockers
 The heavy trudge of weary dockers
 Poucey shawlies laughin singin
 Chapel bells and washin wringin
 Money lenders faces trippin
 Countin,cursin tempers rippin
 Josie,s man who likes to punch her
 Staggers home in oily duncher

Moorsy - what a talent you have - wow! This poem is brilliant, it really does paint a picture. Thanks very much for sharing them with all of us.  O0
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: pussy-galore on June 30, 2009, 01:32:38 AM
My Pleasure.  .Goodnight PG, I am off to read for awhile.

I don't have your stamina or age     I m off too now - i just came online again when i read that post of yours about the cottage plaque  :D Goodnight.  :)

Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: SIXTYNINER on June 30, 2009, 06:27:11 PM
Kathleen, remember the watch-men in there wee sentry boxs when the corporation were fixing the streets. they sat there all night with the coke fires going. Mostly old soldiers.us kids loved to hang around before bedtime and listen to there stories about the war.
a bit late in answering moorsy  but better late than never eh.   my da was one of those watch men but he was on a "project".  he was a miner in england and fell down a shaft and could not work for yrs.   then they  had this project and he became a "watchman"  sitting around the coke fire.  they took photos of him and i have to say they were good.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: SIXTYNINER on June 30, 2009, 06:57:28 PM
THANKS, MONTROSE AND VAL FOR YOUR COMMENTS.   MY GOD I HAD FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE BAGS OF SLACK!!  AND THE COAL-HOLE UNDER THE STAIRS.  WE ALL HELP WITH MEMORIES.   most of these memories are set in the 50s.
once again moorsy,  our coal was kept in the kitchen in the corner.  this was when we lived  in a cottage on the glen rd.  when we moved to turf lodge my mammy would keep the fire burning all the time to heat the water boiler behind the fire place.  she would use slack to keep it going at night.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: SIXTYNINER on June 30, 2009, 07:20:39 PM
moorsy, just finished reading from start to finish and there's a memory in every poem.  maybe when you're old and grey  :D you could put them all in a book  ?    those were "happy days" as paddy reilly  sings,  but i'm glad i have indoor toilets and nice soft tissue to use instead of papers, don't have to worry about coal bricks, but sure miss the good  bread.  :( :D
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: harrydunn on July 01, 2009, 05:17:48 PM
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/harrydunn_2006/lakes2009040.jpg)
A dry outside loo note the toilet paper hanging on a nail on left.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: SIXTYNINER on July 01, 2009, 09:21:06 PM
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/harrydunn_2006/lakes2009040.jpg)
A dry outside loo note the toilet paper hanging on a nail on left.
hi harry, our toilet was outside but it was not a dry one.  it was bad going out at night because it was round the back of the house among trees and when the wind was blowing your imagination went into overdrive. :o :o :D
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: carbolicsoap on July 01, 2009, 09:41:28 PM
Heres a wee poem by James young about slums....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBUP0M4AS0U

A brillant and very well written poem,he really paints a good picture.

It`s also very sad.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: SIXTYNINER on July 01, 2009, 09:50:59 PM
Heres a wee poem by James young about slums....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBUP0M4AS0U

A brillant and very well written poem,he really paints a good picture.

It`s also very sad.
no words needed. :( :(
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: Shazza on July 27, 2009, 08:26:55 PM
Moorsy, I just love these poems.  Val brought this thread to my attention.  I enjoyed reading it from start to finish.  Loved the poems and enjoyed the conversation between other members.  It's a great wee thread, pity to leave it buried among the others.  I understand you're very busy, but you must have a collection somewhere that you've written over the years.  Can you share some more with us? I'd love to read them.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: belle on July 27, 2009, 08:34:57 PM
Moorsy, I just love these poems.  Val brought this thread to my attention.  I enjoyed reading it from start to finished.  Loved the poems and enjoyed the conversation between other members.  It's a great wee thread, pity to leave it buried among the others.  I understand you're very busy, but you must have a collection somewhere that you've written over the years.  Can you share some more with us? I'd love to read them.
i agree with you Shazza, makes me all goosey reading it all. memories good and bad.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: OLD ST.MALS GAL on July 27, 2009, 11:03:41 PM
Moorsy, have really enjoyed reading your poems, what memories they bring back, whether you lived on the Falls or Shankill, we were all in the 'same boat'  But happy memories.
You are so talented, keep them coming
Look forward to reading more
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: SIXTYNINER on July 27, 2009, 11:09:52 PM
Moorsy, have really enjoyed reading your poems, what memories they bring back, whether you lived on the Falls or Shankill, we were all in the 'same boat'  But happy memories.
You are so talented, keep them coming
Look forward to reading more
hi OSMG, you're right about moorsy being talented,  hopefully he will have time again to bring it to light and share it with us.. ;)
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on July 28, 2009, 02:54:52 AM

 Thanks for all your comments folks, much appreciated.

 When you leave a place where you were brought up and dont see it again for a long time, 40 years in my case, your memories dont change.
 They stay in a time warp, of the way things were,of the friends you had. The years I remember are from the 50s and 60s ,the growing up years mostly for me,and so the thread is set then.
 
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: SIXTYNINER on July 28, 2009, 03:11:58 PM
Thanks for all your comments folks, much appreciated.

 When you leave a place where you were brought up and dont see it again for a long time, 40 years in my case, your memories dont change.
 They stay in a time warp, of the way things were,of the friends you had. The years I remember are from the 50s and 60s ,the growing up years mostly for me,and so the thread is set then.
 
:clapping: :clapping: :-*
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on April 13, 2019, 08:09:18 PM
Just thought some people might like to see this again. Dunderin Ins were wee old falling down row houses that were all over belfast at the time.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: SIXTYNINER on April 14, 2019, 03:29:13 AM
Just thought some people might like to see this again. Dunderin Ins were wee old falling down row houses that were all over belfast at the time.
MOORSY MY LOVE, DO YOU  KNOW HOW LONG IT'S BEEN SINCE  YOU'VE GRACED US WITH YOUR PRESENCE ON HERE, TOO LONG BUT  YOU MUST  HAVE FORGOTTEN TO PUT THE LINK IN.   LIZ  XX
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on April 14, 2019, 03:38:14 PM
hi liz, its been 10 years since this was on, do you remember all the old crowd?
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: SIXTYNINER on April 14, 2019, 03:55:49 PM
hi liz, its been 10 years since this was on, do you remember all the old crowd?
YES I DO BUT MOST OF THEM HAVE GONE OVER TO FB. AND SOME HAVE PASSED ON WHICH WAS SAD.  IT'S REALLY HARD TO BELIEVE IT'S BEEN GOING FOR 10 YRS.  THE TIME HAS GONE SO QUICK AND SO MUCH HAS HAPPENED .   I LOVE IT WHEN AN OLD FRIEND POPS IN,  EVEN TO SAY HALLO BUT SOMETIMES IT'S  HARD  TRYING TO KEEP IT GOING WITHOUT OUR "FRIENDS" BUT I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE ONES WE HAVE AND KNOW THAT IT'S HARD SOMETIMES GETTING THE TIME TO COME ON.  I'M RAMBLING AGAIN HA.  ANYWAY LOVE I'M ALWAYS GLAD TO SEE YOU.   LIZ  XXX
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on April 14, 2019, 04:19:28 PM
thanks Liz, hav,nt heard from Val for a while.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: SIXTYNINER on April 14, 2019, 10:16:42 PM
thanks Liz, hav,nt heard from Val for a while.
MOORSY YOU'LL FIND HER ON FB. SHE COMES ON ONCE IN A WHILE.   LIZ  XXX
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: moorsy on April 14, 2019, 10:27:03 PM
MOORSY YOU'LL FIND HER ON FB. SHE COMES ON ONCE IN A WHILE.   LIZ  XXX

well liz face book is a big place could you narrow it down a bit.
Title: Re: Dunderin Ins
Post by: SIXTYNINER on April 15, 2019, 02:34:34 AM
well liz face book is a big place could you narrow it down a bit.
MOORSY, YOU'RE ASKING THE  WRONG PERSON.  WHY DO YOU THINK I'VE NEVER GONE ON.  I USE TO GET LOST AND THAT WAS WITH PEOPLE TRYING TO TELL ME HOW TO USE IT HA.  SOME TIME AGO AND I DON'T KNOW HOW BUT I STARTED GETTING "FRIENDS" POSTING FROM FB.  I NEVER CLICKED ON BECAUSE  OF SCAM  EMAILS BUT I GOT ONE FROM MY DAUGHTER , STILL NEVER OPENED IT AS I HAD GOT EMAILS FROM  FAMILY BEFORE  AND   THEY WERE  NOT FROM THEM,  I NEVER CLICKED ON THEM AS YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF I HAD.  ANYWAY  I'M TELLING YOU ALL THIS FOR A REASON,  I HAD THEM FOR A WHILE AND THEN ONE DAY I  CLICKED ON MY DAUGHTER'S AND IT OPENED TO HER PAGE? THEN I GOT ONE FROM MY NEPHEW  BUT THE OTHER ONE'S I NEVER DID.  SO I DON'T KNOW  HOW YOU WOULD  GET IN TOUCH WITH VAL UNLESS YOU GO IN AND TYPE HER NAME .  I WILL TRY AND SEND YOU  THE ONE I GET AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.  LIZ  XXX