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Raystephenson

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White.
« on: July 15, 2019, 04:49:00 PM »
Hi Guys only me again.  :)

I am now looking for a birth for Lillie-Lily-Lillian any number of spellings.  She married Redmond Greer 12 July 1912 Belfast. Her father is James White. James had several children and I found a George with the mothers surname Hughes. Has anyone any idea where I can find the birth of Lily?
1901 census [size=78%]http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Cromac/Spruce_Street/971593/[/size]
1911 census [size=78%]http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/St__Anne_s_Ward/Donegall_Avenue/160547/[/size]
George Whites birth. [size=78%]https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1885/02661/1981064.pdf[/size] to confirm it's the parents. Note (Painter) as James occupation on each census and Georges birth.

Can anyone help?


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CMcG

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Re: White.
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2019, 11:15:16 PM »
Could this be her? (parents William White a painter and Maggie Hughes... I can't find a William White - Margaret Hughes marriage):

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02433/1905950.pdf

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CMcG

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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2019, 11:31:51 PM »
A Thomas Armstrong White was born in 1888 to James White (house painter) and Margaret Hughes, the informant name and address is identical to that for the Eliza Ann birth registration in 1890:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1888/02519/1933603.pdf

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Raystephenson

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Re: White.
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2019, 05:45:18 AM »
Hi CMcG,

I don't know if that's the same family. This is Redmond Greer and Lillie White's marriage. Note father of Lillie is "James" Also note the Bambrick's are witnesses. Isabella being Redmond's sister!

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1912/09919/5605493.pdf

It is so frustrating as you can imagine. I am wondering if Lillie is a nick name? Though with no birth it could be anything.

Thanks for the help though.


Raystephenson

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Re: White.
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2019, 05:47:47 AM »
Also! Yes that James white is connected to Lillie.

Raystephenson

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Re: White.
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2019, 06:00:46 AM »
CMcG, Looking further into Eliza Ann White. I think you've hit the nail on the head. There is a child, "a twin". Margaret Jane being the other.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01455/1594379.pdf

His name taken from Isabella's son whom died in 1912.


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Re: White.
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2019, 07:41:00 AM »

... I am wondering if Lillie is a nick name? ...


I've encountered numerous instances of Lily / Lilian for Elizabeth / Elizabeth Ann, that wasn't the issue for me, rather it was the variance in the father's forename that introduced any doubt. But in the absence of being able to find a marriage of a William White to Margaret Hughes and given the birth for Thomas in 1888 showing the father as James and an identical informant to the Eliza Ann birth, I was hopeful that I had the right one.

So the informant either simply made a mistake with Eliza Ann's registration, or James was actually William James (in the same way that a lot of 'John's were actually William John).

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Re: White.
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2019, 11:09:46 AM »
CMcG Thanks so much, I'm going along with that. I have found three children with them parents.  :)